Where are the war potions and grey boosts lol you know stuff that actually helps in war @Kabam Miike
Compensation is to make up for what you missed out on, and if anything, you'd have spent AW potions and Boosts during that time, not gained more of them
We missed aw rewards, I understand in AW we have to earn those reward but difficulty of AW is not that of gauntlet.
You can't say since since AW is down , rewards you would have earned by playing AW we have guarded them with gauntlet difficulty.
What would have been acceptable to me. Some rank up mats in that compensation. That is what I look forward to most in aw. Maybe half or full t6b and same with t3a and a t5cc crystal would have been sufficient to me with the loyalty. Would 7 star shards be great? Yeah, but my fun in the game is growing my roster so rank up mats are what keeps me interested and why I try to stay competitive in aw.
The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.
“Come out much earlier”
Me and you both know that wasn’t gonna happen earlier 😂
Kabam is the kind of company you have to tell the party is at 3pm so they show up at 8 pm when it actually starts
What would have been acceptable to me. Some rank up mats in that compensation. That is what I look forward to most in aw. Maybe half or full t6b and same with t3a and a t5cc crystal would have been sufficient to me with the loyalty. Would 7 star shards be great? Yeah, but my fun in the game is growing my roster so rank up mats are what keeps me interested and why I try to stay competitive in aw.
I don't agree with this, but at least it's good feedback and I will be taking it to the team. Thank you for being constructive and respectful.
ompensation is to make up for what you missed out on, and if anything, you'd have spent AW potions and Boosts during that time, not gained more of them
Intended extension was further extended. So yea we did miss out on Rewards. Also if you want "Constructive criticism " be less condescending. Trying hard too be Jax.
Hey, I know there are people that are rightfully upset, but I'm going to try and explain the thought process here. You might disagree with it, but this is the situation.
The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.
Loyalty was the central part of this compensation, making up for most of a lot of what was lost in the unplanned downtime, not for the entire downtime, since we purposely moved those rewards into BGs and told everybody about it in advance.
I know that when we say "compensation", people set their own standards in their heads, and often look at older compensations that we've done as a benchmark, when every situation needs to be treated differently.
If there is CONSTRUCTIVE feedback on what you think you should have been included, please let us know and we can discuss with the game team about it. No guarantees that anything comes of it, but we'll have those discussions.
If you're not going to be constructive though, we're going to ignore you.
as someone whose done gauntlet before im pretty hyped about the keys. but for the rest of the summoners who might not have the willpower to do any gauntlet runs it seems pretty useless. i feel like maybe a bit more loyalty could go towards players and some 6 or 7 star shards scaling with progression level
Constructive feedback. 1. Put out game modes that actually work as planned. 2. Respect and honor the folks spending free time and lots of money playing your game. 3. If you cannot do #1, then better show #2.
We all know aw was going to be delayed and that's why everyone played broken grounds. Don't give compensation that requires you to take on some of the hardest content. That can turn off a community.
Why did we get normal revives in AW compensation ? This doesn't makes any sense at all . You guys kept AW down and now many haven't been able to build up their stash . We should have gotten AW revives and potions and 500k loyalty minimum.
to be fair though, the aw revives do only cost 1 loyalty so not like we need those, but yeah still weird would have been nice to get some team potions instead
Don't remind them that it costs 1 loyalty 💀 Kabam be wilding these days and anything can happen.
Hey, I know there are people that are rightfully upset, but I'm going to try and explain the thought process here. You might disagree with it, but this is the situation.
The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.
Loyalty was the central part of this compensation, making up for most of a lot of what was lost in the unplanned downtime, not for the entire downtime, since we purposely moved those rewards into BGs and told everybody about it in advance.
I know that when we say "compensation", people set their own standards in their heads, and often look at older compensations that we've done as a benchmark, when every situation needs to be treated differently.
If there is CONSTRUCTIVE feedback on what you think you should have been included, please let us know and we can discuss with the game team about it. No guarantees that anything comes of it, but we'll have those discussions.
If you're not going to be constructive though, we're going to ignore you.
Why not just give everyone the rewards they got last season as compensation? We literally missed a whole season of rewards and including it in bgs does nothing because they’re two different game modes and not all WAR PLAYERS play bgs. Giving us the rewards we got last season would’ve been the smartest thing. A lot better than whatever this “compensation “ is☠️☠️☠️
I'm not sure why you'd expect the same rewards from the season before for not actually having to playI know that not everybody plays BGs, but we were very clear that there was an extended off-season with a way to get the rewards if you want them. That was never part of the plan and I don't see why you thought it would be, or would expect it to be.
“Who said I expected that? It’s Kabam. Lmfao, I don’t expect much from y’all. ☠️☠️☠️☠️ You asked for a suggestion, and I gave you one. I’m not the only one who has suggested it. 🤷🏾♂️ Maybe if you guys had a half-capable game team, or even a few devs who actually played the game, you would understand why players are so upset. 🤣”
I asked for constructive feedback, and you didn't give me that. You came in acting like a jerk, and I am giving you back what you gave me.
Come on Mike... Is that the expected behavior from a community manager? Aren't you supposed to be above all this and elevate the debate ? Smh
So, we are complaining about getting access to permanent content (or even more if you haven't done any/some of it) when we would have had to AW to get resources that we think we should be compensated for the delays of the season starting. Am I getting this right?
Yes, your understanding is correct
Ok, then the naysayers need to chill. For real.
Why?? Everyone have their own views, why should anyone care about your or mine view.. Not everyone have big account.
Because it's access to permanent content. If an account is too small, they will eventually get there.
Hey, I know there are people that are rightfully upset, but I'm going to try and explain the thought process here. You might disagree with it, but this is the situation.
The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.
Loyalty was the central part of this compensation, making up for most of a lot of what was lost in the unplanned downtime, not for the entire downtime, since we purposely moved those rewards into BGs and told everybody about it in advance.
I know that when we say "compensation", people set their own standards in their heads, and often look at older compensations that we've done as a benchmark, when every situation needs to be treated differently.
If there is CONSTRUCTIVE feedback on what you think you should have been included, please let us know and we can discuss with the game team about it. No guarantees that anything comes of it, but we'll have those discussions.
If you're not going to be constructive though, we're going to ignore you.
Why not just give everyone the rewards they got last season as compensation? We literally missed a whole season of rewards and including it in bgs does nothing because they’re two different game modes and not all WAR PLAYERS play bgs. Giving us the rewards we got last season would’ve been the smartest thing. A lot better than whatever this “compensation “ is☠️☠️☠️
I'm not sure why you'd expect the same rewards from the season before for not actually having to playI know that not everybody plays BGs, but we were very clear that there was an extended off-season with a way to get the rewards if you want them. That was never part of the plan and I don't see why you thought it would be, or would expect it to be.
“Who said I expected that? It’s Kabam. Lmfao, I don’t expect much from y’all. ☠️☠️☠️☠️ You asked for a suggestion, and I gave you one. I’m not the only one who has suggested it. 🤷🏾♂️ Maybe if you guys had a half-capable game team, or even a few devs who actually played the game, you would understand why players are so upset. 🤣”
I asked for constructive feedback, and you didn't give me that. You came in acting like a jerk, and I am giving you back what you gave me.
Come on Mike... Is that the expected behavior from a community manager? Aren't you supposed to be above all this and elevate the debate ? Smh
I'm not sure what you think a Community Manager does, but no, I am going to call people on their behaviour, and that's exactly what one should do. I am not going to make my team deal with this behaviour, and if I need to call people out on their negative behaviour to make that happen, then I will.
I asked for constructive feedback, and you didn't give me that. You came in acting like a jerk, and I am giving you back what you gave me.
"he started it"
For real though, the loyalty was fine, this should've included shards we'd normally get from wars. Not everyone wants to play BGs to get the stuff they would've gotten from an entirely separate game mode. Maybe not the same amount of shards we would've had, but shards either way. Attached to the mail. Instead of keys the majority of players can't even use.
Maybe put a store together with some progress tuned bundles that allow you to trade the 2 (a 2 key limit) keys in. Not everyone can do the gauntlet wether it's due to progression or champions. It would give the option of keeping the keys or spending them on a bundle. I'm not saying make it 1:1 what the Gauntlet rewards would be but It would cover both sides. The ones that want their compensation now or the ones that want to run The Gauntlet for a better compensation. It gives players options on how they want to handle it.
Honestly, I’m not upset at this but it seems so insensitive to weaker players. “You would have used resources in War” is also a rather unprofessional response.
Otoh, why do players feel the right to compensation for everything? Kabam didn’t have to give anything here, game modes go down. Take a break and a chill pill.
Hey, I know there are people that are rightfully upset, but I'm going to try and explain the thought process here. You might disagree with it, but this is the situation.
The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.
Loyalty was the central part of this compensation, making up for most of a lot of what was lost in the unplanned downtime, not for the entire downtime, since we purposely moved those rewards into BGs and told everybody about it in advance.
I know that when we say "compensation", people set their own standards in their heads, and often look at older compensations that we've done as a benchmark, when every situation needs to be treated differently.
If there is CONSTRUCTIVE feedback on what you think you should have been included, please let us know and we can discuss with the game team about it. No guarantees that anything comes of it, but we'll have those discussions.
If you're not going to be constructive though, we're going to ignore you.
Why not just give everyone the rewards they got last season as compensation? We literally missed a whole season of rewards and including it in bgs does nothing because they’re two different game modes and not all WAR PLAYERS play bgs. Giving us the rewards we got last season would’ve been the smartest thing. A lot better than whatever this “compensation “ is☠️☠️☠️
I'm not sure why you'd expect the same rewards from the season before for not actually having to playI know that not everybody plays BGs, but we were very clear that there was an extended off-season with a way to get the rewards if you want them. That was never part of the plan and I don't see why you thought it would be, or would expect it to be.
“Who said I expected that? It’s Kabam. Lmfao, I don’t expect much from y’all. ☠️☠️☠️☠️ You asked for a suggestion, and I gave you one. I’m not the only one who has suggested it. 🤷🏾♂️ Maybe if you guys had a half-capable game team, or even a few devs who actually played the game, you would understand why players are so upset. 🤣”
I asked for constructive feedback, and you didn't give me that. You came in acting like a jerk, and I am giving you back what you gave me.
Come on Mike... Is that the expected behavior from a community manager? Aren't you supposed to be above all this and elevate the debate ? Smh
I'm not sure what you think a Community Manager does, but no, I am going to call people on their behaviour, and that's exactly what one should do. I am not going to make my team deal with this behaviour, and if I need to call people out on their negative behaviour to make that happen, then I will.
There are other comments here, why only reply to the non constructive ones?
Maybe put a store together with some progress tuned bundles that allow you to trade the 2 (a 2 key limit) keys in. Not everyone can do the gauntlet wether it's due to progression or champions. It would give the option of keeping the keys or spending them on a bundle. I'm not saying make it 1:1 what the Gauntlet rewards would be but It would cover both sides. The ones that want their compensation now or the ones that want to run The Gauntlet for a better compensation. It gives players options on how they want to handle it.
That honestly is not a horrible idea either. A one time exchange of 2 keys. Good thought process.
Hey, I know there are people that are rightfully upset, but I'm going to try and explain the thought process here. You might disagree with it, but this is the situation.
The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.
Loyalty was the central part of this compensation, making up for most of a lot of what was lost in the unplanned downtime, not for the entire downtime, since we purposely moved those rewards into BGs and told everybody about it in advance.
I know that when we say "compensation", people set their own standards in their heads, and often look at older compensations that we've done as a benchmark, when every situation needs to be treated differently.
If there is CONSTRUCTIVE feedback on what you think you should have been included, please let us know and we can discuss with the game team about it. No guarantees that anything comes of it, but we'll have those discussions.
If you're not going to be constructive though, we're going to ignore you.
Why not just give everyone the rewards they got last season as compensation? We literally missed a whole season of rewards and including it in bgs does nothing because they’re two different game modes and not all WAR PLAYERS play bgs. Giving us the rewards we got last season would’ve been the smartest thing. A lot better than whatever this “compensation “ is☠️☠️☠️
I'm not sure why you'd expect the same rewards from the season before for not actually having to playI know that not everybody plays BGs, but we were very clear that there was an extended off-season with a way to get the rewards if you want them. That was never part of the plan and I don't see why you thought it would be, or would expect it to be.
“Who said I expected that? It’s Kabam. Lmfao, I don’t expect much from y’all. ☠️☠️☠️☠️ You asked for a suggestion, and I gave you one. I’m not the only one who has suggested it. 🤷🏾♂️ Maybe if you guys had a half-capable game team, or even a few devs who actually played the game, you would understand why players are so upset. 🤣”
I asked for constructive feedback, and you didn't give me that. You came in acting like a jerk, and I am giving you back what you gave me.
“I am providing you with feedback. I shared my opinion on your ‘compensation’ and offered a better idea. If you don’t appreciate it, perhaps you shouldn’t seek suggestions. 🤷🏾♂️ Read the room, dude; everyone is unhappy with the compensation, indicating that Kabam made a mistake. I apologize if I come across as rude, but I had expected Kabam to show a certain level of respect for their player base. I’m sorry if my expectations are too high. 💪”
So, we are complaining about getting access to permanent content (or even more if you haven't done any/some of it) when we would have had to AW to get resources that we think we should be compensated for the delays of the season starting. Am I getting this right?
Yes, your understanding is correct
Ok, then the naysayers need to chill. For real.
Why?? Everyone have their own views, why should anyone care about your or mine view.. Not everyone have big account.
Because it's access to permanent content. If an account is too small, they will eventually get there.
Where are the war potions and grey boosts lol you know stuff that actually helps in war @Kabam Miike
Compensation is to make up for what you missed out on, and if anything, you'd have spent AW potions and Boosts during that time, not gained more of them
If this is the case, then why did we only get half of what we would have gotten if war were actually happening? Like gold, and crystal shards are also war prizes. I understand not everyone does war, so there's somewhat of a justification for not just going willy-milly with crystal shards, but what about the gold?
Gold kinda serves a similar purpose as loyalty, case in point being it's an in game currency (that we need it to level and rank champs and relics; we need it to access arena, etc)...
If the keys to the gauntlet is suitable compensation, it should be accompanied by means to complete it. That means providing questing revives and health pots so people actually feel like they played the game and earned the rewards while not spending any resource that they do not actually have to spend if it were true compensation as the message says it is.
Hey, I know there are people that are rightfully upset, but I'm going to try and explain the thought process here. You might disagree with it, but this is the situation.
The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.
Loyalty was the central part of this compensation, making up for most of a lot of what was lost in the unplanned downtime, not for the entire downtime, since we purposely moved those rewards into BGs and told everybody about it in advance.
I know that when we say "compensation", people set their own standards in their heads, and often look at older compensations that we've done as a benchmark, when every situation needs to be treated differently.
If there is CONSTRUCTIVE feedback on what you think you should have been included, please let us know and we can discuss with the game team about it. No guarantees that anything comes of it, but we'll have those discussions.
If you're not going to be constructive though, we're going to ignore you.
Why not just give everyone the rewards they got last season as compensation? We literally missed a whole season of rewards and including it in bgs does nothing because they’re two different game modes and not all WAR PLAYERS play bgs. Giving us the rewards we got last season would’ve been the smartest thing. A lot better than whatever this “compensation “ is☠️☠️☠️
I'm not sure why you'd expect the same rewards from the season before for not actually having to playI know that not everybody plays BGs, but we were very clear that there was an extended off-season with a way to get the rewards if you want them. That was never part of the plan and I don't see why you thought it would be, or would expect it to be.
“Who said I expected that? It’s Kabam. Lmfao, I don’t expect much from y’all. ☠️☠️☠️☠️ You asked for a suggestion, and I gave you one. I’m not the only one who has suggested it. 🤷🏾♂️ Maybe if you guys had a half-capable game team, or even a few devs who actually played the game, you would understand why players are so upset. 🤣”
I asked for constructive feedback, and you didn't give me that. You came in acting like a jerk, and I am giving you back what you gave me.
Maybe everyone should take a breathe. Just replace keys.
Hey, I know there are people that are rightfully upset, but I'm going to try and explain the thought process here. You might disagree with it, but this is the situation.
The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.
Loyalty was the central part of this compensation, making up for most of a lot of what was lost in the unplanned downtime, not for the entire downtime, since we purposely moved those rewards into BGs and told everybody about it in advance.
I know that when we say "compensation", people set their own standards in their heads, and often look at older compensations that we've done as a benchmark, when every situation needs to be treated differently.
If there is CONSTRUCTIVE feedback on what you think you should have been included, please let us know and we can discuss with the game team about it. No guarantees that anything comes of it, but we'll have those discussions.
If you're not going to be constructive though, we're going to ignore you.
Why not just give everyone the rewards they got last season as compensation? We literally missed a whole season of rewards and including it in bgs does nothing because they’re two different game modes and not all WAR PLAYERS play bgs. Giving us the rewards we got last season would’ve been the smartest thing. A lot better than whatever this “compensation “ is☠️☠️☠️
I'm not sure why you'd expect the same rewards from the season before for not actually having to playI know that not everybody plays BGs, but we were very clear that there was an extended off-season with a way to get the rewards if you want them. That was never part of the plan and I don't see why you thought it would be, or would expect it to be.
Similar to someone losing their job... they can collect unemployment
I mean, points for being creative, but we don't collect stamps for Pogie. It's a competitive mode that rewards what we've done. Not what we could have done. The goal of compensation in these cases is to gauge that in a generic sense, but it's certainly not a stipend.
@Kabam Miike Would it be possible to at least get the war victory/defeat rewards we would have gotten if the seasons were up? Maybe as a baseline, just send everyone defeat rewards since we don't know if they would've won the non-existant wars. It isn't much at all, but it's something I guess. Definitely a far cry from what some people are demanding on here. This is the only constructive idea i have that isn't redundant based on previous responses.
Also, definitely let everyone exchange those keys for something else. especially ones who cant even do the gauntlet yet. My uncollected alt got they keys too and it wont be able to use them for forever
Someone on reddit brought up the fact that there's a legends challenge coming soon and kabam wants everyone to burn through their revives which is why they gave us these keys lmaoooooo
Someone on reddit brought up the fact that there's a legends challenge coming soon and kabam wants everyone to burn through their revives which is why they gave us these keys lmaoooooo
What about the 6* shards we lost during the aw was down after bg season off ? ( considering 26th july was the actual start date & now aw season starting 16th aug, that too "subject to change" ) 20 days of actual war season gone means 7 wars already down. @Kabam Miike some shards, 2 x grey boosts, 2-3 x team lvl5 pot, 2 x each class boost, Loyalty Battlechips Gold " that's what i think" I don't think this is game breaking or way too much to give.
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You can't say since since AW is down , rewards you would have earned by playing AW we have guarded them with gauntlet difficulty.
Me and you both know that wasn’t gonna happen earlier 😂
Kabam is the kind of company you have to tell the party is at 3pm so they show up at 8 pm when it actually starts
Intended extension was further extended. So yea we did miss out on Rewards. Also if you want "Constructive criticism " be less condescending. Trying hard too be Jax.
6 or 7 star shards scaling with progression level
1. Put out game modes that actually work as planned.
2. Respect and honor the folks spending free time and lots of money playing your game.
3. If you cannot do #1, then better show #2.
We all know aw was going to be delayed and that's why everyone played broken grounds. Don't give compensation that requires you to take on some of the hardest content. That can turn off a community.
Kabam be wilding these days and anything can happen.
For real though, the loyalty was fine, this should've included shards we'd normally get from wars. Not everyone wants to play BGs to get the stuff they would've gotten from an entirely separate game mode. Maybe not the same amount of shards we would've had, but shards either way. Attached to the mail. Instead of keys the majority of players can't even use.
Honestly, I’m not upset at this but it seems so insensitive to weaker players. “You would have used resources in War” is also a rather unprofessional response.
Otoh, why do players feel the right to compensation for everything? Kabam didn’t have to give anything here, game modes go down. Take a break and a chill pill.
Also, normally it take 1500 unit worth of item to complete gauntlet if you have 7.5/10 skill in game.
If you ask me do gauntlet reward worth 1500 unit. I would say likely nope.
Gold kinda serves a similar purpose as loyalty, case in point being it's an in game currency (that we need it to level and rank champs and relics; we need it to access arena, etc)...
The goal of compensation in these cases is to gauge that in a generic sense, but it's certainly not a stipend.
Also, definitely let everyone exchange those keys for something else. especially ones who cant even do the gauntlet yet. My uncollected alt got they keys too and it wont be able to use them for forever
( considering 26th july was the actual start date & now aw season starting 16th aug, that too "subject to change" ) 20 days of actual war season gone means 7 wars already down.
@Kabam Miike
some shards,
2 x grey boosts,
2-3 x team lvl5 pot,
2 x each class boost,
Loyalty
Battlechips
Gold
" that's what i think"
I don't think this is game breaking or way too much to give.