Alliance War Compensation [merged]

Most ridiculous compensation package in the history of the contest. We’ve kept season down and here run something for your compensation. Try again

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Typhoon

the compensation you need to spend and still take time to acquire.
unfair.

I laughed way too hard at this

Eternity0

@Kabam Miike how about people receiving the reward they would have got if your people didn't mess it up? Track last aw Season placement send those rewards to the allies accordingly.

5 revives general for aw compensation ? Gauntlet is 2 years old. This economy that "compensation" is another sq. Hell even sq has better rewards.

Also you guys messed up sending a content key to the playerbase in whatever time it was intended to? I think you should have put that on the Trello board. You know since you track things there now.

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JonTheGeneral

Hey, I know there are people that are rightfully upset, but I'm going to try and explain the thought process here. You might disagree with it, but this is the situation.

The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.

Loyalty was the central part of this compensation, making up for most of a lot of what was lost in the unplanned downtime, not for the entire downtime, since we purposely moved those rewards into BGs and told everybody about it in advance.

I know that when we say "compensation", people set their own standards in their heads, and often look at older compensations that we've done as a benchmark, when every situation needs to be treated differently.

If there is CONSTRUCTIVE feedback on what you think you should have been included, please let us know and we can discuss with the game team about it. No guarantees that anything comes of it, but we'll have those discussions.

If you're not going to be constructive though, we're going to ignore you.
Why not just give everyone the rewards they got last season as compensation? We literally missed a whole season of rewards and including it in bgs does nothing because they’re two different game modes and not all WAR PLAYERS play bgs. Giving us the rewards we got last season would’ve been the smartest thing. A lot better than whatever this “compensation “ is☠️☠️☠️
I'm not sure why you'd expect the same rewards from the season before for not actually having to playI know that not everybody plays BGs, but we were very clear that there was an extended off-season with a way to get the rewards if you want them. That was never part of the plan and I don't see why you thought it would be, or would expect it to be.

“Who said I expected that? It’s Kabam. Lmfao, I don’t expect much from y’all. ☠️☠️☠️☠️ You asked for a suggestion, and I gave you one. I’m not the only one who has suggested it. 🤷🏾‍♂️ Maybe if you guys had a half-capable game team, or even a few devs who actually played the game, you would understand why players are so upset. 🤣”

Carmel1

Hey, I know there are people that are rightfully upset, but I'm going to try and explain the thought process here. You might disagree with it, but this is the situation.

The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.

Loyalty was the central part of this compensation, making up for most of a lot of what was lost in the unplanned downtime, not for the entire downtime, since we purposely moved those rewards into BGs and told everybody about it in advance.

I know that when we say "compensation", people set their own standards in their heads, and often look at older compensations that we've done as a benchmark, when every situation needs to be treated differently.

If there is CONSTRUCTIVE feedback on what you think you should have been included, please let us know and we can discuss with the game team about it. No guarantees that anything comes of it, but we'll have those discussions.

If you're not going to be constructive though, we're going to ignore you.
Why not just give everyone the rewards they got last season as compensation? We literally missed a whole season of rewards and including it in bgs does nothing because they’re two different game modes and not all WAR PLAYERS play bgs. Giving us the rewards we got last season would’ve been the smartest thing. A lot better than whatever this “compensation “ is☠️☠️☠️
I'm not sure why you'd expect the same rewards from the season before for not actually having to playI know that not everybody plays BGs, but we were very clear that there was an extended off-season with a way to get the rewards if you want them. That was never part of the plan and I don't see why you thought it would be, or would expect it to be.

Similar to someone losing their job... they can collect unemployment

SpideyFunko

why send out the keys to accounts that can’t even do it yet?

Wozzle007

Hey, I know there are people that are rightfully upset, but I'm going to try and explain the thought process here. You might disagree with it, but this is the situation.

The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.

Loyalty was the central part of this compensation, making up for most of a lot of what was lost in the unplanned downtime, not for the entire downtime, since we purposely moved those rewards into BGs and told everybody about it in advance.

I know that when we say "compensation", people set their own standards in their heads, and often look at older compensations that we've done as a benchmark, when every situation needs to be treated differently.

If there is CONSTRUCTIVE feedback on what you think you should have been included, please let us know and we can discuss with the game team about it. No guarantees that anything comes of it, but we'll have those discussions.

If you're not going to be constructive though, we're going to ignore you.
Why not just give everyone the rewards they got last season as compensation? We literally missed a whole season of rewards and including it in bgs does nothing because they’re two different game modes and not all WAR PLAYERS play bgs. Giving us the rewards we got last season would’ve been the smartest thing. A lot better than whatever this “compensation “ is☠️☠️☠️
I'm not sure why you'd expect the same rewards from the season before for not actually having to playI know that not everybody plays BGs, but we were very clear that there was an extended off-season with a way to get the rewards if you want them. That was never part of the plan and I don't see why you thought it would be, or would expect it to be.

Because the game is in disarray with every piece of content being released being full of bugs, champions being full of bugs, changes to champions kits not being communicated well, the controls in the game are still broken after years. I don’t think we should get a full season of rewards for nothing, but proper gestures of goodwill to keep the players happy is a good business tactic. We get the bare minimum and it annoys everyone. The game is not in a good place.

Kabam Miike

Hey, I know there are people that are rightfully upset, but I'm going to try and explain the thought process here. You might disagree with it, but this is the situation.

The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.

Loyalty was the central part of this compensation, making up for most of a lot of what was lost in the unplanned downtime, not for the entire downtime, since we purposely moved those rewards into BGs and told everybody about it in advance.

I know that when we say "compensation", people set their own standards in their heads, and often look at older compensations that we've done as a benchmark, when every situation needs to be treated differently.

If there is CONSTRUCTIVE feedback on what you think you should have been included, please let us know and we can discuss with the game team about it. No guarantees that anything comes of it, but we'll have those discussions.

If you're not going to be constructive though, we're going to ignore you.
Why not just give everyone the rewards they got last season as compensation? We literally missed a whole season of rewards and including it in bgs does nothing because they’re two different game modes and not all WAR PLAYERS play bgs. Giving us the rewards we got last season would’ve been the smartest thing. A lot better than whatever this “compensation “ is☠️☠️☠️
I'm not sure why you'd expect the same rewards from the season before for not actually having to playI know that not everybody plays BGs, but we were very clear that there was an extended off-season with a way to get the rewards if you want them. That was never part of the plan and I don't see why you thought it would be, or would expect it to be.
“Who said I expected that? It’s Kabam. Lmfao, I don’t expect much from y’all. ☠️☠️☠️☠️ You asked for a suggestion, and I gave you one. I’m not the only one who has suggested it. 🤷🏾‍♂️ Maybe if you guys had a half-capable game team, or even a few devs who actually played the game, you would understand why players are so upset. 🤣”

I asked for constructive feedback, and you didn't give me that. You came in acting like a jerk, and I am giving you back what you gave me.

Armageddøn

The gauntlet rewards were good when it came out but a lot of things happened in contest since then with the introduction of 7* shards and within this month Ascension and Titan crystals are coming.
That's where i would like to focus currently and put my time and efforts.

As you said it could have been better if it came out before the announcement and players would have appreciated it and you could have avoided this backlash. I'm not particularly mad about the "compensation" but I understand why players are not liking it. It's probably the wording. If you have to grind it out and put time and efforts it doesn't feels like one, as simple as that.

PT_99

Damn lil bro, just give us previous war rewards, not that hard.
Now we have to burn stash of "unfarmable" revives to get our deserved compensation? Kabam why so sus?

Omega_Runner

Where are the war potions and grey boosts lol you know stuff that actually helps in war @Kabam Miike
Compensation is to make up for what you missed out on, and if anything, you'd have spent AW potions and Boosts during that time, not gained more of them

We missed aw rewards, I understand in AW we have to earn those reward but difficulty of AW is not that of gauntlet.

You can't say since since AW is down , rewards you would have earned by playing AW we have guarded them with gauntlet difficulty.

Midnightfox

What would have been acceptable to me. Some rank up mats in that compensation. That is what I look forward to most in aw. Maybe half or full t6b and same with t3a and a t5cc crystal would have been sufficient to me with the loyalty. Would 7 star shards be great? Yeah, but my fun in the game is growing my roster so rank up mats are what keeps me interested and why I try to stay competitive in aw.

Agent_X_zzz

The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.

“Come out much earlier”

Me and you both know that wasn’t gonna happen earlier 😂

Kabam is the kind of company you have to tell the party is at 3pm so they show up at 8 pm when it actually starts

KnightNvrEnding

The keys feel a bit weird to get for AW compensation lol thought process is that I basically have to go earn my own compensation? Lol

Kabam Miike

What would have been acceptable to me. Some rank up mats in that compensation. That is what I look forward to most in aw. Maybe half or full t6b and same with t3a and a t5cc crystal would have been sufficient to me with the loyalty. Would 7 star shards be great? Yeah, but my fun in the game is growing my roster so rank up mats are what keeps me interested and why I try to stay competitive in aw.

I don't agree with this, but at least it's good feedback and I will be taking it to the team. Thank you for being constructive and respectful.

Eternity0

ompensation is to make up for what you missed out on, and if anything, you'd have spent AW potions and Boosts during that time, not gained more of them

Intended extension was further extended. So yea we did miss out on Rewards. Also if you want "Constructive criticism " be less condescending. Trying hard too be Jax.

hi_im_sir

Hey, I know there are people that are rightfully upset, but I'm going to try and explain the thought process here. You might disagree with it, but this is the situation.

The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.

Loyalty was the central part of this compensation, making up for most of a lot of what was lost in the unplanned downtime, not for the entire downtime, since we purposely moved those rewards into BGs and told everybody about it in advance.

I know that when we say "compensation", people set their own standards in their heads, and often look at older compensations that we've done as a benchmark, when every situation needs to be treated differently.

If there is CONSTRUCTIVE feedback on what you think you should have been included, please let us know and we can discuss with the game team about it. No guarantees that anything comes of it, but we'll have those discussions.

If you're not going to be constructive though, we're going to ignore you.

as someone whose done gauntlet before im pretty hyped about the keys. but for the rest of the summoners who might not have the willpower to do any gauntlet runs it seems pretty useless. i feel like maybe a bit more loyalty could go towards players and some
6 or 7 star shards scaling with progression level

Realpg

Constructive feedback.
1. Put out game modes that actually work as planned.
2. Respect and honor the folks spending free time and lots of money playing your game.
3. If you cannot do #1, then better show #2.

We all know aw was going to be delayed and that's why everyone played broken grounds. Don't give compensation that requires you to take on some of the hardest content. That can turn off a community.

Arifutera

Keys are good but 0 7 star shards?

PT_99

Why did we get normal revives in AW compensation ? This doesn't makes any sense at all . You guys kept AW down and now many haven't been able to build up their stash . We should have gotten AW revives and potions and 500k loyalty minimum.
to be fair though, the aw revives do only cost 1 loyalty so not like we need those, but yeah still weird would have been nice to get some team potions instead

Don't remind them that it costs 1 loyalty 💀
Kabam be wilding these days and anything can happen.

xLunatiXx

Hey, I know there are people that are rightfully upset, but I'm going to try and explain the thought process here. You might disagree with it, but this is the situation.

The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.

Loyalty was the central part of this compensation, making up for most of a lot of what was lost in the unplanned downtime, not for the entire downtime, since we purposely moved those rewards into BGs and told everybody about it in advance.

I know that when we say "compensation", people set their own standards in their heads, and often look at older compensations that we've done as a benchmark, when every situation needs to be treated differently.

If there is CONSTRUCTIVE feedback on what you think you should have been included, please let us know and we can discuss with the game team about it. No guarantees that anything comes of it, but we'll have those discussions.

If you're not going to be constructive though, we're going to ignore you.
Why not just give everyone the rewards they got last season as compensation? We literally missed a whole season of rewards and including it in bgs does nothing because they’re two different game modes and not all WAR PLAYERS play bgs. Giving us the rewards we got last season would’ve been the smartest thing. A lot better than whatever this “compensation “ is☠️☠️☠️
I'm not sure why you'd expect the same rewards from the season before for not actually having to playI know that not everybody plays BGs, but we were very clear that there was an extended off-season with a way to get the rewards if you want them. That was never part of the plan and I don't see why you thought it would be, or would expect it to be.
“Who said I expected that? It’s Kabam. Lmfao, I don’t expect much from y’all. ☠️☠️☠️☠️ You asked for a suggestion, and I gave you one. I’m not the only one who has suggested it. 🤷🏾‍♂️ Maybe if you guys had a half-capable game team, or even a few devs who actually played the game, you would understand why players are so upset. 🤣”
I asked for constructive feedback, and you didn't give me that. You came in acting like a jerk, and I am giving you back what you gave me.

Come on Mike... Is that the expected behavior from a community manager? Aren't you supposed to be above all this and elevate the debate ? Smh

BlackOracle

So, we are complaining about getting access to permanent content (or even more if you haven't done any/some of it) when we would have had to AW to get resources that we think we should be compensated for the delays of the season starting. Am I getting this right?
Yes, your understanding is correct
Ok, then the naysayers need to chill. For real.
Why?? Everyone have their own views, why should anyone care about your or mine view..
Not everyone have big account.

Because it's access to permanent content. If an account is too small, they will eventually get there.

why send out the keys to accounts that can’t even do it yet?

Because those account will eventually be able to do it. You were going to have to work for it in AW, now you just do it in the Gauntlet.

Kabam Miike

Hey, I know there are people that are rightfully upset, but I'm going to try and explain the thought process here. You might disagree with it, but this is the situation.

The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.

Loyalty was the central part of this compensation, making up for most of a lot of what was lost in the unplanned downtime, not for the entire downtime, since we purposely moved those rewards into BGs and told everybody about it in advance.

I know that when we say "compensation", people set their own standards in their heads, and often look at older compensations that we've done as a benchmark, when every situation needs to be treated differently.

If there is CONSTRUCTIVE feedback on what you think you should have been included, please let us know and we can discuss with the game team about it. No guarantees that anything comes of it, but we'll have those discussions.

If you're not going to be constructive though, we're going to ignore you.
Why not just give everyone the rewards they got last season as compensation? We literally missed a whole season of rewards and including it in bgs does nothing because they’re two different game modes and not all WAR PLAYERS play bgs. Giving us the rewards we got last season would’ve been the smartest thing. A lot better than whatever this “compensation “ is☠️☠️☠️
I'm not sure why you'd expect the same rewards from the season before for not actually having to playI know that not everybody plays BGs, but we were very clear that there was an extended off-season with a way to get the rewards if you want them. That was never part of the plan and I don't see why you thought it would be, or would expect it to be.
“Who said I expected that? It’s Kabam. Lmfao, I don’t expect much from y’all. ☠️☠️☠️☠️ You asked for a suggestion, and I gave you one. I’m not the only one who has suggested it. 🤷🏾‍♂️ Maybe if you guys had a half-capable game team, or even a few devs who actually played the game, you would understand why players are so upset. 🤣”
I asked for constructive feedback, and you didn't give me that. You came in acting like a jerk, and I am giving you back what you gave me.
Come on Mike... Is that the expected behavior from a community manager? Aren't you supposed to be above all this and elevate the debate ? Smh

I'm not sure what you think a Community Manager does, but no, I am going to call people on their behaviour, and that's exactly what one should do. I am not going to make my team deal with this behaviour, and if I need to call people out on their negative behaviour to make that happen, then I will.

bdawg923

I asked for constructive feedback, and you didn't give me that. You came in acting like a jerk, and I am giving you back what you gave me.

"he started it"

For real though, the loyalty was fine, this should've included shards we'd normally get from wars. Not everyone wants to play BGs to get the stuff they would've gotten from an entirely separate game mode. Maybe not the same amount of shards we would've had, but shards either way. Attached to the mail. Instead of keys the majority of players can't even use.

Crow9074

Maybe put a store together with some progress tuned bundles that allow you to trade the 2 (a 2 key limit) keys in. Not everyone can do the gauntlet wether it's due to progression or champions. It would give the option of keeping the keys or spending them on a bundle. I'm not saying make it 1:1 what the Gauntlet rewards would be but It would cover both sides. The ones that want their compensation now or the ones that want to run The Gauntlet for a better compensation. It gives players options on how they want to handle it.

HungaryHippo

Thanks for the keys, I need the gold.

Honestly, I’m not upset at this but it seems so insensitive to weaker players. “You would have used resources in War” is also a rather unprofessional response.

Otoh, why do players feel the right to compensation for everything? Kabam didn’t have to give anything here, game modes go down. Take a break and a chill pill.

JustWantTheRewards

Hey, I know there are people that are rightfully upset, but I'm going to try and explain the thought process here. You might disagree with it, but this is the situation.

The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.

Loyalty was the central part of this compensation, making up for most of a lot of what was lost in the unplanned downtime, not for the entire downtime, since we purposely moved those rewards into BGs and told everybody about it in advance.

I know that when we say "compensation", people set their own standards in their heads, and often look at older compensations that we've done as a benchmark, when every situation needs to be treated differently.

If there is CONSTRUCTIVE feedback on what you think you should have been included, please let us know and we can discuss with the game team about it. No guarantees that anything comes of it, but we'll have those discussions.

If you're not going to be constructive though, we're going to ignore you.
Why not just give everyone the rewards they got last season as compensation? We literally missed a whole season of rewards and including it in bgs does nothing because they’re two different game modes and not all WAR PLAYERS play bgs. Giving us the rewards we got last season would’ve been the smartest thing. A lot better than whatever this “compensation “ is☠️☠️☠️
I'm not sure why you'd expect the same rewards from the season before for not actually having to playI know that not everybody plays BGs, but we were very clear that there was an extended off-season with a way to get the rewards if you want them. That was never part of the plan and I don't see why you thought it would be, or would expect it to be.
“Who said I expected that? It’s Kabam. Lmfao, I don’t expect much from y’all. ☠️☠️☠️☠️ You asked for a suggestion, and I gave you one. I’m not the only one who has suggested it. 🤷🏾‍♂️ Maybe if you guys had a half-capable game team, or even a few devs who actually played the game, you would understand why players are so upset. 🤣”
I asked for constructive feedback, and you didn't give me that. You came in acting like a jerk, and I am giving you back what you gave me.
Come on Mike... Is that the expected behavior from a community manager? Aren't you supposed to be above all this and elevate the debate ? Smh
I'm not sure what you think a Community Manager does, but no, I am going to call people on their behaviour, and that's exactly what one should do. I am not going to make my team deal with this behaviour, and if I need to call people out on their negative behaviour to make that happen, then I will.

There are other comments here, why only reply to the non constructive ones?

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Midnightfox

Maybe put a store together with some progress tuned bundles that allow you to trade the 2 (a 2 key limit) keys in. Not everyone can do the gauntlet wether it's due to progression or champions. It would give the option of keeping the keys or spending them on a bundle. I'm not saying make it 1:1 what the Gauntlet rewards would be but It would cover both sides. The ones that want their compensation now or the ones that want to run The Gauntlet for a better compensation. It gives players options on how they want to handle it.

That honestly is not a horrible idea either. A one time exchange of 2 keys. Good thought process.

JonTheGeneral

Hey, I know there are people that are rightfully upset, but I'm going to try and explain the thought process here. You might disagree with it, but this is the situation.

The goal with this Comp was for the Keys to come out much earlier, giving players something to do while AW was down. I'm not sure why it's only going out now, but here we are.

Loyalty was the central part of this compensation, making up for most of a lot of what was lost in the unplanned downtime, not for the entire downtime, since we purposely moved those rewards into BGs and told everybody about it in advance.

I know that when we say "compensation", people set their own standards in their heads, and often look at older compensations that we've done as a benchmark, when every situation needs to be treated differently.

If there is CONSTRUCTIVE feedback on what you think you should have been included, please let us know and we can discuss with the game team about it. No guarantees that anything comes of it, but we'll have those discussions.

If you're not going to be constructive though, we're going to ignore you.
Why not just give everyone the rewards they got last season as compensation? We literally missed a whole season of rewards and including it in bgs does nothing because they’re two different game modes and not all WAR PLAYERS play bgs. Giving us the rewards we got last season would’ve been the smartest thing. A lot better than whatever this “compensation “ is☠️☠️☠️
I'm not sure why you'd expect the same rewards from the season before for not actually having to playI know that not everybody plays BGs, but we were very clear that there was an extended off-season with a way to get the rewards if you want them. That was never part of the plan and I don't see why you thought it would be, or would expect it to be.
“Who said I expected that? It’s Kabam. Lmfao, I don’t expect much from y’all. ☠️☠️☠️☠️ You asked for a suggestion, and I gave you one. I’m not the only one who has suggested it. 🤷🏾‍♂️ Maybe if you guys had a half-capable game team, or even a few devs who actually played the game, you would understand why players are so upset. 🤣”
I asked for constructive feedback, and you didn't give me that. You came in acting like a jerk, and I am giving you back what you gave me.

“I am providing you with feedback. I shared my opinion on your ‘compensation’ and offered a better idea. If you don’t appreciate it, perhaps you shouldn’t seek suggestions. 🤷🏾‍♂️ Read the room, dude; everyone is unhappy with the compensation, indicating that Kabam made a mistake. I apologize if I come across as rude, but I had expected Kabam to show a certain level of respect for their player base. I’m sorry if my expectations are too high. 💪”