I m pro diveriity when it s not for the sake of it and the sales. This one feels like it is the case. The "mess" part was about her desing, color palette etc, not her skin color. And because it s design mess, that s why it feels forced diversity. Btw, comparing a comic character with a big history and genius, most of the times, story, to a game character that appeared out of nowhere is, laughable, to say the least.
If I remember correctly, they said in the NYCC video that they created the character with diversity in mind.
if you watched the video from nycc than you would know that she was primarily created by and worked on by kabam employees hailing from different native tribes. stop acting like this is forced diversity when it's literally the passion project of people making the game that want to see themselves represented
Don't even try the "representation" argument here. There s more than 15 unused Marvel characters, that are native americans, have a great history, awesome stories in the comics, but instead, kabam chose to do something "original" to diversify the roster.
So what's the issue then? You called it representation for the sake of it, you said the design was poor, now your argument was that there was no need for an original. I think your ignorance is showing.
I m pro diveriity when it s not for the sake of it and the sales. This one feels like it is the case. The "mess" part was about her desing, color palette etc, not her skin color. And because it s design mess, that s why it feels forced diversity. Btw, comparing a comic character with a big history and genius, most of the times, story, to a game character that appeared out of nowhere is, laughable, to say the least.
If I remember correctly, they said in the NYCC video that they created the character with diversity in mind.
"I'm pro diversity when I don't want my white privilege showing" is what this sounds like.
What exactly do you mean by "out of nowhere"? Champs are designed months in advance and we've known we were going to get a Kabam original that month. How is that "out of nowhere"?
Creating a character with diversity in mind is exactly how inclusion works my guy. Thought you were smarter than that.
Y’all are just arguing for the sake of arguing now. Can you just leave it? Some people like the design, some people don’t. The guy is right, there are plenty of options that fit this characters description that are already in the comics.
He is just saying that the design of this character isn’t as good as characters of this ethnicity (or other ethnicities for that matter) that have already been made. The design is a flop, this has nothing to do with her skin color.
I m pro diveriity when it s not for the sake of it and the sales. This one feels like it is the case. The "mess" part was about her desing, color palette etc, not her skin color. And because it s design mess, that s why it feels forced diversity. Btw, comparing a comic character with a big history and genius, most of the times, story, to a game character that appeared out of nowhere is, laughable, to say the least.
If I remember correctly, they said in the NYCC video that they created the character with diversity in mind.
"I'm pro diversity when I don't want my white privilege showing" is what this sounds like.
What exactly do you mean by "out of nowhere"? Champs are designed months in advance and we've known we were going to get a Kabam original that month. How is that "out of nowhere"?
Creating a character with diversity in mind is exactly how inclusion works my guy. Thought you were smarter than that.
You may have hearing problems then. You don't even know my nationality.
A character that s not in the comics, in a game that s based in the comics, is out of nowhere. And, if they were targeting inclusion, they were gonna choose an already beloved, well known character. Thought You were smarter than that.
"They have Native Americans. We don't need any more." Sound about right?
No, we need Silver Fox, Thunderbird, Puma, Echo, and DEFINATLY Forge that I was waiting to get released along with Danni, but he wasn't.
Yet that doesn't mean they won't be added later. Kabam chose to make an entirely new character with input from actual native Americans. Perhaps you should show some humility and let them have their time in the spotlight.
"They have Native Americans. We don't need any more." Sound about right?
No, we need Silver Fox, Thunderbird, Puma, Echo, and DEFINATLY Forge that I was waiting to get released along with Danni, but he wasn't.
Yet that doesn't mean they won't be added later. Kabam chose to make an entirely new character with input from actual native Americans. Perhaps you should show some humility and let them have their time in the spotlight.
All the guy is saying is that he doesn’t like the character design. Maybe he could’ve worded it differently, yeah… but he’s not targeting the native American’s spotlight.
"They have Native Americans. We don't need any more." Sound about right?
No, we need Silver Fox, Thunderbird, Puma, Echo, and DEFINATLY Forge that I was waiting to get released along with Danni, but he wasn't.
Yet that doesn't mean they won't be added later. Kabam chose to make an entirely new character with input from actual native Americans. Perhaps you should show some humility and let them have their time in the spotlight.
You really don't know how entertainment marketing works, right? Kabam wanted a piece of the diversity pie that their own doing, not marvel comics related, to get the credits. Having a group of representatives as part of the creation doesn't tell me anything, that s also marketing.
I'd like to know how you came up with diversity for the sake of it. She was designed by First Nations people in part.
Because, as I said, she s poorly designed, and not that much, "original" design wise.
Love how you claim its a poor design when it's literally an original creation. Bet some of your original designs are poor too then
Every creator has good and bad designs. I m no exception. Yes, she s an original creation, that lacks originality.
Because she's not white?
What does being white have to do with anything? She could be asian, middle eastern, latina, doesn't matter, either way she lacks originality. You take that outfit and put it on any other skin color and it looks bad....
The very definition of diversity means variety, that can have a lot of applications, not just skin color.
Calling it "forced diversity" makes it about race, are you dyslexic? As for your comment about originality, why aren't you complaining about all the generic looking white characters in the game that lack originality too? It's only a problem when they're not white right? Lol
"They have Native Americans. We don't need any more." Sound about right?
There are plenty of amazing Native American champs that could get added, who said we have too many?
It's not up to Kabam. Marvel has to approve those champs to be able to be added to the game. It's one of the reasons the F4 champs took so long. There was a huge dispute and even their comics were pulled. Their IP wasn't being added anywhere because Fox messed up the movies so bad.
I'd like to know how you came up with diversity for the sake of it. She was designed by First Nations people in part.
Because, as I said, she s poorly designed, and not that much, "original" design wise.
Love how you claim its a poor design when it's literally an original creation. Bet some of your original designs are poor too then
Every creator has good and bad designs. I m no exception. Yes, she s an original creation, that lacks originality.
Because she's not white?
Bad, F*ing desing. Why do you try to make this sound racist, I have no idea.
First you call it "forced diversity" and then you complain about "originality"? Where are all your complaints about the generic white characters in the game that lack originality then? There are a few, they don't seem to bother anyone though.
"They have Native Americans. We don't need any more." Sound about right?
No, we need Silver Fox, Thunderbird, Puma, Echo, and DEFINATLY Forge that I was waiting to get released along with Danni, but he wasn't.
Yet that doesn't mean they won't be added later. Kabam chose to make an entirely new character with input from actual native Americans. Perhaps you should show some humility and let them have their time in the spotlight.
You really don't know how entertainment marketing works, right? Kabam wanted a piece of the diversity pie that their own doing, not marvel comics related, to get the credits. Having a group of representatives as part of the creation doesn't tell me anything, that s also marketing.
Heaven forbid they add native American characters during native American month while showing support for thier native American developers who helped create said characters. I'm guessing you want them to atop doing it during black history month or Hispanic heritage month etc as well too?
I m pro diveriity when it s not for the sake of it and the sales. This one feels like it is the case. The "mess" part was about her desing, color palette etc, not her skin color. And because it s design mess, that s why it feels forced diversity. Btw, comparing a comic character with a big history and genius, most of the times, story, to a game character that appeared out of nowhere is, laughable, to say the least.
If I remember correctly, they said in the NYCC video that they created the character with diversity in mind.
"I'm pro diversity when I don't want my white privilege showing" is what this sounds like.
What exactly do you mean by "out of nowhere"? Champs are designed months in advance and we've known we were going to get a Kabam original that month. How is that "out of nowhere"?
Creating a character with diversity in mind is exactly how inclusion works my guy. Thought you were smarter than that.
You may have hearing problems then. You don't even know my nationality.
A character that s not in the comics, in a game that s based in the comics, is out of nowhere. And, if they were targeting inclusion, they were gonna choose an already beloved, well known character. Thought You were smarter than that.
That's how characters are created. When a new comic character comes to the comics, was it because one already existed?
Like I said in my other reply, we probably don't have those because Marvel hasn't given approval or they're planned at another time.
If Forge was added with basically the same kit, would you be crying about diversity then?
I can guess your ethnicity because you're triggered by diversity.
"They have Native Americans. We don't need any more." Sound about right?
No, we need Silver Fox, Thunderbird, Puma, Echo, and DEFINATLY Forge that I was waiting to get released along with Danni, but he wasn't.
Yet that doesn't mean they won't be added later. Kabam chose to make an entirely new character with input from actual native Americans. Perhaps you should show some humility and let them have their time in the spotlight.
All the guy is saying is that he doesn’t like the character design. Maybe he could’ve worded it differently, yeah… but he’s not targeting the native American’s spotlight.
But that's not what he said. He didn't just say design.
"They have Native Americans. We don't need any more." Sound about right?
There are plenty of amazing Native American champs that could get added, who said we have too many?
It's not up to Kabam. Marvel has to approve those champs to be able to be added to the game. It's one of the reasons the F4 champs took so long. There was a huge dispute and even their comics were pulled. Their IP wasn't being added anywhere because Fox messed up the movies so bad.
This is another discussion, but I really can't tell what s Marvel s agenda for this game. We get characters that are clearly ones that the company wants to promote, and then we get long forgotten ones that we haven't seen in any media in ages.
"They have Native Americans. We don't need any more." Sound about right?
There are plenty of amazing Native American champs that could get added, who said we have too many?
The view that says they should add existing ones said it.
This is a Kabam creation. The storyline, the design, all of it is new. It might have some elements we've seen before, but having a similar arc isn't exactly a new thing in the gaming industry. I'm sorry but the issue is clear. Whether you think they're unoriginal for creating a Native character, or you think it's diversity for the sake of it, that's an ignorant view.
It's also not going to hold water for Canadians like myself, or the game team, or especially the people who contributed their own personal history to the design. You see, while the rest of the world was scoffing at the genocide in places like Europe, Canada had its own genocide. The Native people of Canada were forced into reserves, which were basically fenced-in areas. The people were fed alcohol to keep them subdued enough not to fight (which no doubt contributed to the rampant alcoholism we see today), even as early as the early 1800s when residential schools were opened to "civilize the savages" (aka Christianize them), which was supported by a number of the people found on our money. Those schools were a home for various forms of physical, emotional, and sexual abuse. Children removed from homes at gun point, to be abused and lectured on the "privilege of going home to celebrate Christmas". Some were even sold. Generations of oppression and cover-ups for a people who first occupied this land, and the beginnings of some of the truths coming to the surface. If they want to create a Native character, I give them all the power in the world.
I can tell you that when I was a kid I relished seeing someone with my background represented in popular culture. It was meaningful. So I hope this release is meaningful to some kids who pick up this character.As adults I think sometimes we are skeptical of inclusion efforts assuming someone is trying to check a box. Based on the video they released I don’t believe that is the case with this design. It’s a big world, and even bigger Battlerealm, and we should be excited to add to it. Especially if that is going to make some kid feel proud to be seen and represented in a game they love.
I'd like to know how you came up with diversity for the sake of it. She was designed by First Nations people in part.
Because, as I said, she s poorly designed, and not that much, "original" design wise.
Love how you claim its a poor design when it's literally an original creation. Bet some of your original designs are poor too then
Every creator has good and bad designs. I m no exception. Yes, she s an original creation, that lacks originality.
Because she's not white?
What does being white have to do with anything? She could be asian, middle eastern, latina, doesn't matter, either way she lacks originality. You take that outfit and put it on any other skin color and it looks bad....
The very definition of diversity means variety, that can have a lot of applications, not just skin color.
Calling it "forced diversity" makes it about race, are you dyslexic? As for your comment about originality, why aren't you complaining about all the generic looking white characters in the game that lack originality too? It's only a problem when they're not white right? Lol
You’re right, punisher 2099 has a bad design, so does titania in my opinion. On top of that you got repeat designs for captain america and spider man which is kind of annoying. So nope, it’s not only a problem when they’re white. There is a plethora of bad designs in this game, I’m just adding this new on to that list.
"They have Native Americans. We don't need any more." Sound about right?
No, we need Silver Fox, Thunderbird, Puma, Echo, and DEFINATLY Forge that I was waiting to get released along with Danni, but he wasn't.
Yet that doesn't mean they won't be added later. Kabam chose to make an entirely new character with input from actual native Americans. Perhaps you should show some humility and let them have their time in the spotlight.
You really don't know how entertainment marketing works, right? Kabam wanted a piece of the diversity pie that their own doing, not marvel comics related, to get the credits. Having a group of representatives as part of the creation doesn't tell me anything, that s also marketing.
Heaven forbid they add native American characters during native American month while showing support for thier native American developers who helped create said characters. I'm guessing you want them to atop doing it during black history month or Hispanic heritage month etc as well too?
"They have Native Americans. We don't need any more." Sound about right?
There are plenty of amazing Native American champs that could get added, who said we have too many?
The view that says they should add existing ones said it.
This is a Kabam creation. The storyline, the design, all of it is new. It might have some elements we've seen before, but having a similar arc isn't exactly a new thing in the gaming industry. I'm sorry but the issue is clear. Whether you think they're unoriginal for creating a Native character, or you think it's diversity for the sake of it, that's an ignorant view.
It's also not going to hold water for Canadians like myself, or the game team, or especially the people who contributed their own personal history to the design. You see, while the rest of the world was scoffing at the genocide in places like Europe, Canada had its own genocide. The Native people of Canada were forced into reserves, which were basically fenced-in areas. The people were fed alcohol to keep them subdued enough not to fight (which no doubt contributed to the rampant alcoholism we see today), even as early as the early 1800s when residential schools were opened to "civilize the savages" (aka Christianize them), which was supported by a number of the people found on our money. Those schools were a home for various forms of physical, emotional, and sexual abuse. Children removed from homes at gun point, to be abused and lectured on the "privilege of going home to celebrate Christmas". Some were even sold. Generations of oppression and cover-ups for a people who first occupied this land, and the beginnings of some of the truths coming to the surface. If they want to create a Native character, I give them all the power in the world.
Blah blah blah, tldr. You need to calm down, this is a children’s game, someone dislikes the design, stop making it such a big deal.
No one brought race into except you guys trying to use any opportunity to bring it up.
"They have Native Americans. We don't need any more." Sound about right?
There are plenty of amazing Native American champs that could get added, who said we have too many?
It's not up to Kabam. Marvel has to approve those champs to be able to be added to the game. It's one of the reasons the F4 champs took so long. There was a huge dispute and even their comics were pulled. Their IP wasn't being added anywhere because Fox messed up the movies so bad.
This is another discussion, but I really can't tell what s Marvel s agenda for this game. We get characters that are clearly ones that the company wants to promote, and then we get long forgotten ones that we haven't seen in any media in ages.
Kabam has a roadmap for stories that they're doing, champion approval comes from marvel and is done way in advance. Champion approval might have to clear certain rights from like Fox or Sony.
I'm sure Marvel has some sort of plan for tie ins for movies or shows.
Just because we want a character, I voted for Forge on one of Gabe's polls on Twitter years ago, doesn't mean that Marvel wants in the game or it fits Kabams plans.
This original character has design input from Native Americans. It wasn't something some random designer thought of and said let's do this.
It's just weird you're complaining about diversity with THIS champion and none of the the other Kabam originals.
I can tell you that when I was a kid I relished seeing someone with my background represented in popular culture. It was meaningful. So I hope this release is meaningful to some kids who pick up this character.As adults I think sometimes we are skeptical of inclusion efforts assuming someone is trying to check a box. Based on the video they released I don’t believe that is the case with this design. It’s a big world, and even bigger Battlerealm, and we should be excited to add to it. Especially if that is going to make some kid feel proud to be seen and represented in a game they love.
At that point why don’t they make a Ukrainian operator, an Islamic one, why can they only be important when they are distinctly brown/black/white. There’s no Indian champions are there? I have no quarrel with the champions ethnicity, I just Don’t. Like. The. Design.
I'd like to know how you came up with diversity for the sake of it. She was designed by First Nations people in part.
Because, as I said, she s poorly designed, and not that much, "original" design wise.
Love how you claim its a poor design when it's literally an original creation. Bet some of your original designs are poor too then
Every creator has good and bad designs. I m no exception. Yes, she s an original creation, that lacks originality.
Because she's not white?
What does being white have to do with anything? She could be asian, middle eastern, latina, doesn't matter, either way she lacks originality. You take that outfit and put it on any other skin color and it looks bad....
The very definition of diversity means variety, that can have a lot of applications, not just skin color.
Calling it "forced diversity" makes it about race, are you dyslexic? As for your comment about originality, why aren't you complaining about all the generic looking white characters in the game that lack originality too? It's only a problem when they're not white right? Lol
You’re right, punisher 2099 has a bad design, so does titania in my opinion. On top of that you got repeat designs for captain america and spider man which is kind of annoying. So nope, it’s not only a problem when they’re white. There is a plethora of bad designs in this game, I’m just adding this new on to that list.
Right, that's not the only issue here though, you can dislike her design all you want but when you go and say "forced diversity" you're just being kind of a ****. Nobody's forcing anything on you or anyone.
"They have Native Americans. We don't need any more." Sound about right?
There are plenty of amazing Native American champs that could get added, who said we have too many?
The view that says they should add existing ones said it.
This is a Kabam creation. The storyline, the design, all of it is new. It might have some elements we've seen before, but having a similar arc isn't exactly a new thing in the gaming industry. I'm sorry but the issue is clear. Whether you think they're unoriginal for creating a Native character, or you think it's diversity for the sake of it, that's an ignorant view.
It's also not going to hold water for Canadians like myself, or the game team, or especially the people who contributed their own personal history to the design. You see, while the rest of the world was scoffing at the genocide in places like Europe, Canada had its own genocide. The Native people of Canada were forced into reserves, which were basically fenced-in areas. The people were fed alcohol to keep them subdued enough not to fight (which no doubt contributed to the rampant alcoholism we see today), even as early as the early 1800s when residential schools were opened to "civilize the savages" (aka Christianize them), which was supported by a number of the people found on our money. Those schools were a home for various forms of physical, emotional, and sexual abuse. Children removed from homes at gun point, to be abused and lectured on the "privilege of going home to celebrate Christmas". Some were even sold. Generations of oppression and cover-ups for a people who first occupied this land, and the beginnings of some of the truths coming to the surface. If they want to create a Native character, I give them all the power in the world.
Blah blah blah, tldr. You need to calm down, this is a children’s game, someone dislikes the design, stop making it such a big deal.
No one brought race into except you guys trying to use any opportunity to bring it up.
No, race was but brought up by the guy who said this is "forced diversity", it's not.
I'd like to know how you came up with diversity for the sake of it. She was designed by First Nations people in part.
Because, as I said, she s poorly designed, and not that much, "original" design wise.
Love how you claim its a poor design when it's literally an original creation. Bet some of your original designs are poor too then
Every creator has good and bad designs. I m no exception. Yes, she s an original creation, that lacks originality.
Because she's not white?
What does being white have to do with anything? She could be asian, middle eastern, latina, doesn't matter, either way she lacks originality. You take that outfit and put it on any other skin color and it looks bad....
The very definition of diversity means variety, that can have a lot of applications, not just skin color.
Calling it "forced diversity" makes it about race, are you dyslexic? As for your comment about originality, why aren't you complaining about all the generic looking white characters in the game that lack originality too? It's only a problem when they're not white right? Lol
You’re right, punisher 2099 has a bad design, so does titania in my opinion. On top of that you got repeat designs for captain america and spider man which is kind of annoying. So nope, it’s not only a problem when they’re white. There is a plethora of bad designs in this game, I’m just adding this new on to that list.
Right, that's not the only issue here though, you can dislike her design all you want but when you go and say "forced diversity" you're just being kind of a ****. Nobody's forcing anything on you or anyone.
I’d like to be clear, that wasn’t me who said “forced diversity.” I just dislike this characters design.
"They have Native Americans. We don't need any more." Sound about right?
There are plenty of amazing Native American champs that could get added, who said we have too many?
The view that says they should add existing ones said it.
This is a Kabam creation. The storyline, the design, all of it is new. It might have some elements we've seen before, but having a similar arc isn't exactly a new thing in the gaming industry. I'm sorry but the issue is clear. Whether you think they're unoriginal for creating a Native character, or you think it's diversity for the sake of it, that's an ignorant view.
It's also not going to hold water for Canadians like myself, or the game team, or especially the people who contributed their own personal history to the design. You see, while the rest of the world was scoffing at the genocide in places like Europe, Canada had its own genocide. The Native people of Canada were forced into reserves, which were basically fenced-in areas. The people were fed alcohol to keep them subdued enough not to fight (which no doubt contributed to the rampant alcoholism we see today), even as early as the early 1800s when residential schools were opened to "civilize the savages" (aka Christianize them), which was supported by a number of the people found on our money. Those schools were a home for various forms of physical, emotional, and sexual abuse. Children removed from homes at gun point, to be abused and lectured on the "privilege of going home to celebrate Christmas". Some were even sold. Generations of oppression and cover-ups for a people who first occupied this land, and the beginnings of some of the truths coming to the surface. If they want to create a Native character, I give them all the power in the world.
Blah blah blah, tldr. You need to calm down, this is a children’s game, someone dislikes the design, stop making it such a big deal.
No one brought race into except you guys trying to use any opportunity to bring it up.
Nice attempt to whitewash the issue, but the idea of forced diversity was brought up.
I'd like to know how you came up with diversity for the sake of it. She was designed by First Nations people in part.
Because, as I said, she s poorly designed, and not that much, "original" design wise.
Love how you claim its a poor design when it's literally an original creation. Bet some of your original designs are poor too then
Every creator has good and bad designs. I m no exception. Yes, she s an original creation, that lacks originality.
Because she's not white?
What does being white have to do with anything? She could be asian, middle eastern, latina, doesn't matter, either way she lacks originality. You take that outfit and put it on any other skin color and it looks bad....
The very definition of diversity means variety, that can have a lot of applications, not just skin color.
Calling it "forced diversity" makes it about race, are you dyslexic? As for your comment about originality, why aren't you complaining about all the generic looking white characters in the game that lack originality too? It's only a problem when they're not white right? Lol
You’re right, punisher 2099 has a bad design, so does titania in my opinion. On top of that you got repeat designs for captain america and spider man which is kind of annoying. So nope, it’s not only a problem when they’re white. There is a plethora of bad designs in this game, I’m just adding this new on to that list.
Right, that's not the only issue here though, you can dislike her design all you want but when you go and say "forced diversity" you're just being kind of a ****. Nobody's forcing anything on you or anyone.
I’d like to be clear, that wasn’t me who said “forced diversity.” I just dislike this characters design.
Cheers.
But you keep saying that person didn't say it. Make up your mind
"They have Native Americans. We don't need any more." Sound about right?
There are plenty of amazing Native American champs that could get added, who said we have too many?
The view that says they should add existing ones said it.
This is a Kabam creation. The storyline, the design, all of it is new. It might have some elements we've seen before, but having a similar arc isn't exactly a new thing in the gaming industry. I'm sorry but the issue is clear. Whether you think they're unoriginal for creating a Native character, or you think it's diversity for the sake of it, that's an ignorant view.
It's also not going to hold water for Canadians like myself, or the game team, or especially the people who contributed their own personal history to the design. You see, while the rest of the world was scoffing at the genocide in places like Europe, Canada had its own genocide. The Native people of Canada were forced into reserves, which were basically fenced-in areas. The people were fed alcohol to keep them subdued enough not to fight (which no doubt contributed to the rampant alcoholism we see today), even as early as the early 1800s when residential schools were opened to "civilize the savages" (aka Christianize them), which was supported by a number of the people found on our money. Those schools were a home for various forms of physical, emotional, and sexual abuse. Children removed from homes at gun point, to be abused and lectured on the "privilege of going home to celebrate Christmas". Some were even sold. Generations of oppression and cover-ups for a people who first occupied this land, and the beginnings of some of the truths coming to the surface. If they want to create a Native character, I give them all the power in the world.
Blah blah blah, tldr. You need to calm down, this is a children’s game, someone dislikes the design, stop making it such a big deal.
No one brought race into except you guys trying to use any opportunity to bring it up.
Nice attempt to whitewash the issue, but the idea of forced diversity was brought up.
Nice attempt at bringing up race yet again. “Whitewash” is that what you guys are using now? How about you stop trying to “native Americanize” someone talking abt forced diversity…
He worded his sentence wrong, and clearly you guys found that out. But at the end of the day he just dislikes the characters design.
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He is just saying that the design of this character isn’t as good as characters of this ethnicity (or other ethnicities for that matter) that have already been made. The design is a flop, this has nothing to do with her skin color.
A character that s not in the comics, in a game that s based in the comics, is out of nowhere. And, if they were targeting inclusion, they were gonna choose an already beloved, well known character. Thought You were smarter than that.
Sound about right?
As for your comment about originality, why aren't you complaining about all the generic looking white characters in the game that lack originality too? It's only a problem when they're not white right? Lol
Like I said in my other reply, we probably don't have those because Marvel hasn't given approval or they're planned at another time.
If Forge was added with basically the same kit, would you be crying about diversity then?
I can guess your ethnicity because you're triggered by diversity.
This is a Kabam creation. The storyline, the design, all of it is new. It might have some elements we've seen before, but having a similar arc isn't exactly a new thing in the gaming industry. I'm sorry but the issue is clear. Whether you think they're unoriginal for creating a Native character, or you think it's diversity for the sake of it, that's an ignorant view.
It's also not going to hold water for Canadians like myself, or the game team, or especially the people who contributed their own personal history to the design. You see, while the rest of the world was scoffing at the genocide in places like Europe, Canada had its own genocide. The Native people of Canada were forced into reserves, which were basically fenced-in areas. The people were fed alcohol to keep them subdued enough not to fight (which no doubt contributed to the rampant alcoholism we see today), even as early as the early 1800s when residential schools were opened to "civilize the savages" (aka Christianize them), which was supported by a number of the people found on our money. Those schools were a home for various forms of physical, emotional, and sexual abuse. Children removed from homes at gun point, to be abused and lectured on the "privilege of going home to celebrate Christmas". Some were even sold.
Generations of oppression and cover-ups for a people who first occupied this land, and the beginnings of some of the truths coming to the surface.
If they want to create a Native character, I give them all the power in the world.
No one brought race into except you guys trying to use any opportunity to bring it up.
I'm sure Marvel has some sort of plan for tie ins for movies or shows.
Just because we want a character, I voted for Forge on one of Gabe's polls on Twitter years ago, doesn't mean that Marvel wants in the game or it fits Kabams plans.
This original character has design input from Native Americans. It wasn't something some random designer thought of and said let's do this.
It's just weird you're complaining about diversity with THIS champion and none of the the other Kabam originals.
Cheers.
He worded his sentence wrong, and clearly you guys found that out. But at the end of the day he just dislikes the characters design.