Anyone who knows well the One below all pls answer:is he a character that could be playable in Mcoc?
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I remember before the Guardians 3 movie was out me and others talked about how The high evolutionary could join the contest and be the science Apoc/Galan... with a pre fight where he experiments on Science champs and makes them hybrid with animals which then grant them abilities... but now after seeing this:
I thought, wait... how sick would it be if THE ONE BELOW ALL was the science Apoc/Galan? Idk if it's even possible, if he is a character that can be championized and playable or not, which is what I ask. But couldn't it be cool if The One below on was a Science champion and had a pre fight ability of Gamma radiation? Apoc makes mutants an Horsemen, Galan an Heralds... The one below all... an Hulks... the three H of bestowing power...
Well? Might it become a reality?
I thought, wait... how sick would it be if THE ONE BELOW ALL was the science Apoc/Galan? Idk if it's even possible, if he is a character that can be championized and playable or not, which is what I ask. But couldn't it be cool if The One below on was a Science champion and had a pre fight ability of Gamma radiation? Apoc makes mutants an Horsemen, Galan an Heralds... The one below all... an Hulks... the three H of bestowing power...
Well? Might it become a reality?
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If they wanted to release such a powerful being, they would release the Maestro (make him only a 5* champ or something liké that), High Evolutionnary or a better version of Thanos.
This character would be possible to adapt into mcoc only in Dormammu-esk style:
We would not see the One-below-all himself, but manifestation of his power and persona in body.
However i feel like it would probably cheapen the character if that would happen, since the point of cosmic devil isn't in kicking ass of some random dudes on mortal plane. Hell, even guys like Galactus are probably way below his level of power and control.
But the fact that we play Galan and not Galactus is due to the fact that while all characters *can* be made playable, not all characters are characters Marvel *wants* to make playable. For narrative, conceptual, legal, or other branding reasons there's probably a few Marvel characters highly unlikely to ever be playable. The One Above All and the One Below All are both almost certainly in that category.
Personally, I'm just waiting for the comic to come out that says The Sentry and The Void are the "mortal" embodiments of The One Above/Below All.
Been a bit so I might be wrong on some of this:
He doesn't per-se have a physcial manifestation to my knowledge, the closest we've had was him posessing "Leader" when trying to destroy Bruce. So perhaps something like that could be done where they add a playable avatar of TOBA who is able to share the powers in a way. Perhaps Leader himself would fit that role well if they decide to go with the Immortal Hulk version
But in all honestly I doubt they'll add him, there is probably someone across the Marvel universe who is a better fit to be the Science "Apoc" without making vast changes
And in the game, there's additional narrative license. How does the Punisher beat Dormammu? That should be impossible, and would be impossible in the -616 universe or the Dark Dimension. But in the Battleworld universe of the game everything exists in a completely different universe operating under a completely different set of rules. Champions on the Battleworld are empowered by ISO-8, which is essentially the life force of a Celestial-like being from that universe. That makes all Battleworld champions from Kingpin to Elektra analogous to Heralds of Galactus using the power cosmic: whatever they used to be, they are fighting on a whole different level in the Battleworld. Meanwhile cosmicly powerful characters like Phoenix or Dormammu are almost certainly not fighting at their full strength, as they are not in their "home" universe. They are more likely "aspects" of those characters projected into the Battleworld universe. As such, they can be defeated by other Battleworld champions.
This is the narrativium that essentially "levels" all combatants on the Battleworld, and would do so to any Marvel character added to the game if they were added.
Kabam couldn't conceivably introduce Eternity, Infinity, Oblivion or Death as playable characters. Same goes for the Living Tribunal or the Beyonders. The One Above and the One Below All is so far beyond any of them.
The Infinity Gauntlet, The Cosmic Cube, The Odin Force. The game's ISO Sphere? None of them could affect The One Above All unless The One Above All allowed it to. That's the storyline that would have to be created. The One Above/Below All would need to limit themselves and/or provides The Summoner with power that would elevate champion power levels to a degree actually capable of doing something to it. It would need to allow this to happen, which effectively means the "fight" itself would be completely under The One Above/Below All's control the whole time. If we "win" or "lose" it would be because they designed it that way.
It also would throw the whole narrative of MCOC out the window, because it's no longer The Collector or Grandmaster or anyone else keeping us here. It's The One Above/Below all... because they actually "wrote" the story of the game. It's also not a question of someone else wrote the story or the story isn't yet written. It's only happening, because The One Above/Below All wrote it.
The very meta existence of The One Above/Below All being "the writer" actually removes all aspect of Free Will out of anything. There's no defeating something that literally writes what happens next.
Whether the One Above All is ever added to the game, the game itself is a part of the Marvel multiverse. So if the One Above All is the one above all in every universe of the Marvel multiverse, then the One Above All ultimately controls the Battleworld whether he shows up in the story or game proper, because otherwise the Battleworld would be a universe outside its control, which contradicts what you claim about his canon.
Incidentally, the notion that the existence of an omnipotent creator implies there is no free will is the premise of Mike Carey's Lucifer.
You would quite literally be playing as god
And if TOAA can't be playable then TOBA wouldn't be playable either
The One Below All is relatively new, yes, not even truly canon, but they don't shake the concept of The One Above All, they enhance it. They are one and the same. I wasn't being snide earlier, I'm completely expecting a comic to come out that introduces the concept of The Sentry and The Void being the "mortal" embodyments of The One Above/Below All. So there, if that were to happen they would already be in the game.. to about the same degree that Galactus is in the game.
The free will comment is a pretty common philosophical stance as a response to an omni(everything) creator. It's also present in Neil Gaiman's Sandman (from where Mike Carey's Lucifer originated)
Regardless of personal religious/philosophical stance it becomes quite literal when we're talking about the actual writer of the comic. Jack Kirby writes a comic book, the characters he's writing don't have Free Will because he's literally writing the story. They only do/say something because he writes it. It's determinism to the nth degree.
Your second paragraph seems to swap stances and prop me up as being the one suggesting it's possible when you're just reiterating exactly what I said. I only went as far as I did to show how ridiculous the concept would be, not because I was suggesting it or thinking it's possible. The One Above All is ultimately in control of the Battlerealm, because it's part of the Marvel Universe. The One Above All creates and "writes" it all. So no, it wouldn't be possible for them to be playable or someone we could fight - because unless it was removed from the Marvel Universe (which it can't be) then they would control everything, including their own inclusion and the result, making it all kind of pointless.
They could only feasibly be introduced as some sort of "trial" or "gauntlet" aimed at teaching the Summoner something. Not a boss we could actually defeat and certainly not something playable, because the kind of power required would end the game.