Forfeiting in Battlegrounds

G-Hun-GearG-Hun-Gear Member Posts: 1,447 ★★★★
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Quick question: If someone forfeits in Battleground, does it still count towards „completion“ of a match?

I have a surprising amount of opponents forfeiting on me, and I wonder why they won‘t simply do the match, maybe they would win? And even if not, they would at least get points for the solo objectives…

Unless, of course, a forfeited match still counts as completed…
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  • G-Hun-GearG-Hun-Gear Member Posts: 1,447 ★★★★
    Thanks…

    Still strange, it‘s typically the weaker accounts that I am matched against… It‘s never the beefy ones that end up destroying me… unfortunately… :lol:
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★
    Vegeta9001 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    No it doesn't count. What's most likely happening is they're Tanking to farm Points for the Milestones, and best of luck to them. Kabam is taking action on it this Season.

    I struggle to see how they're going to take action against it meaningfully. Unless they announce some BG only suspensions or strip milestones. I can't see game wide suspensions for forfeiting games. Although I haven't read up on it and haven't been hugely active lately so could be way off base.
    Forfeiting in and of itself isn't the issue. Just like opening a Side Quest isn't an issue.
    Spamming a bugged Side Quest and exploiting it is. Just like using the Forfeit to manipulate the Matches for Solo Milestones is exploitative.
    The issue isn't using Forfeit. It's the Players that are using it to camp for Points. Kabam mentioned that they will be monitoring it and possible bans are up for grabs.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Vegeta9001 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    No it doesn't count. What's most likely happening is they're Tanking to farm Points for the Milestones, and best of luck to them. Kabam is taking action on it this Season.

    I struggle to see how they're going to take action against it meaningfully. Unless they announce some BG only suspensions or strip milestones. I can't see game wide suspensions for forfeiting games. Although I haven't read up on it and haven't been hugely active lately so could be way off base.
    I'm pretty sure they'll be able to easily tell if someone is forfeiting because something came up, they just didn't feel like doing that match etc or someone is forfeiting to farm points. Regardless of how they're doing it though, the people saying these are just empty threats are in for a rude awakening lol can't wait to see the complaints after season ends.
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 7,812 Guardian
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Vegeta9001 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    No it doesn't count. What's most likely happening is they're Tanking to farm Points for the Milestones, and best of luck to them. Kabam is taking action on it this Season.

    I struggle to see how they're going to take action against it meaningfully. Unless they announce some BG only suspensions or strip milestones. I can't see game wide suspensions for forfeiting games. Although I haven't read up on it and haven't been hugely active lately so could be way off base.
    I'm pretty sure they'll be able to easily tell if someone is forfeiting because something came up, they just didn't feel like doing that match etc or someone is forfeiting to farm points. Regardless of how they're doing it though, the people saying these are just empty threats are in for a rude awakening lol can't wait to see the complaints after season ends.
    Can't wait for the 40 threads, like the ones we saw of people complaining all their gold, glory, and loyalty were taken away, to pop up after that wave goes through 😎
  • JT_SupremeJT_Supreme Member Posts: 1,236 ★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Vegeta9001 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    No it doesn't count. What's most likely happening is they're Tanking to farm Points for the Milestones, and best of luck to them. Kabam is taking action on it this Season.

    I struggle to see how they're going to take action against it meaningfully. Unless they announce some BG only suspensions or strip milestones. I can't see game wide suspensions for forfeiting games. Although I haven't read up on it and haven't been hugely active lately so could be way off base.
    I'm pretty sure they'll be able to easily tell if someone is forfeiting because something came up, they just didn't feel like doing that match etc or someone is forfeiting to farm points. Regardless of how they're doing it though, the people saying these are just empty threats are in for a rude awakening lol can't wait to see the complaints after season ends.
    I’ve played a few that are trying to be sneaky, lose on purpose but try to not make it look completely suspicious, wonder how that would be caught
  • Yukzii_IIYukzii_II Member Posts: 189 ★★
    MrSakuragi said:

    Yukzii_II said:

    Bruh I’ve been forfetting just because it leaves the match quicker after a loss, I dont wanna sit there for 20 seconds at the end of round 3 to let it settle in how I’ve lost. I would rather get into a match quicker.

    You gain no points when you do that. A waste if you’ve used elder marks.
    Bruh I’ve done that so many times 😭 but I win more than I lose so kinda makes up for it? Still lost points though

  • ArmageddønArmageddøn Member Posts: 871 ★★★★
    JT_Supreme said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Vegeta9001 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    No it doesn't count. What's most likely happening is they're Tanking to farm Points for the Milestones, and best of luck to them. Kabam is taking action on it this Season.

    I struggle to see how they're going to take action against it meaningfully. Unless they announce some BG only suspensions or strip milestones. I can't see game wide suspensions for forfeiting games. Although I haven't read up on it and haven't been hugely active lately so could be way off base.
    I'm pretty sure they'll be able to easily tell if someone is forfeiting because something came up, they just didn't feel like doing that match etc or someone is forfeiting to farm points. Regardless of how they're doing it though, the people saying these are just empty threats are in for a rude awakening lol can't wait to see the complaints after season ends.
    I’ve played a few that are trying to be sneaky, lose on purpose but try to not make it look completely suspicious, wonder how that would be caught
    I've been seeing guys who just join the match and leave their screen on, they lose but also waste a lot of time. Idk how that behaviour will be caught.
  • MagrailothosMagrailothos Member Posts: 5,985 ★★★★★
    edited October 2023
    GroundedWisdom said:

    No it doesn't count. What's most likely happening is they're Tanking to farm Points for the Milestones, and best of luck to them. Kabam is taking action on it this Season.

    Or, they forfeit because they're a smaller roster that's been accelerated into Platinum 1-2, and they're facing an account hugely stronger.

    Hopefully Kabam develops an algorithm that recognises that that's an appropriate use of the forfeit option.
  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 5,350 ★★★★★
    Armageddøn said:

    JT_Supreme said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Vegeta9001 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    No it doesn't count. What's most likely happening is they're Tanking to farm Points for the Milestones, and best of luck to them. Kabam is taking action on it this Season.

    I struggle to see how they're going to take action against it meaningfully. Unless they announce some BG only suspensions or strip milestones. I can't see game wide suspensions for forfeiting games. Although I haven't read up on it and haven't been hugely active lately so could be way off base.
    I'm pretty sure they'll be able to easily tell if someone is forfeiting because something came up, they just didn't feel like doing that match etc or someone is forfeiting to farm points. Regardless of how they're doing it though, the people saying these are just empty threats are in for a rude awakening lol can't wait to see the complaints after season ends.
    I’ve played a few that are trying to be sneaky, lose on purpose but try to not make it look completely suspicious, wonder how that would be caught
    I've been seeing guys who just join the match and leave their screen on, they lose but also waste a lot of time. Idk how that behaviour will be caught.
    I’ve encountered it as well. It should be pretty easy for Kabam to look at the people who constantly have 10 second matches and always lose without throwing a punch, defender at 100%. Only when using energy as well.
  • Ayden_noah1Ayden_noah1 Member Posts: 1,861 ★★★★
    I'm assuming if you forfeit 50% of your matches, they can see a pattern. I can't see how they can tell if someone is losing on purpose if they actually finish the match. I have gone on long losing streaks but trying to win so am I going to look suspicious cause my skill level average to below average. I would be upset if they think I'm losing on purpose due to a losing streak.
  • apextronapextron Member Posts: 5 ★
    I tell you what I'm sitting back reading learning a lot 🤔😁. I never forfeited a match don't ever know how the button looks.I dont do BG as much as I like cause you have to commit and invest the time. Im here cause it are those times where something came up and your attention is forfeited. Right.
  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 5,350 ★★★★★
    Ayden_noah1 said:

    I'm assuming if you forfeit 50% of your matches, they can see a pattern. I can't see how they can tell if someone is losing on purpose if they actually finish the match. I have gone on long losing streaks but trying to win so am I going to look suspicious cause my skill level average to below average. I would be upset if they think I'm losing on purpose due to a losing streak.

    If you lose every match you play with energy, a pattern may emerge. If you never play with elder marks when you have 2 wins in plat2 but always do when you have 0 wins in plat2, a pattern may emerge.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    edited October 2023
    JT_Supreme said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Vegeta9001 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    No it doesn't count. What's most likely happening is they're Tanking to farm Points for the Milestones, and best of luck to them. Kabam is taking action on it this Season.

    I struggle to see how they're going to take action against it meaningfully. Unless they announce some BG only suspensions or strip milestones. I can't see game wide suspensions for forfeiting games. Although I haven't read up on it and haven't been hugely active lately so could be way off base.
    I'm pretty sure they'll be able to easily tell if someone is forfeiting because something came up, they just didn't feel like doing that match etc or someone is forfeiting to farm points. Regardless of how they're doing it though, the people saying these are just empty threats are in for a rude awakening lol can't wait to see the complaints after season ends.
    I’ve played a few that are trying to be sneaky, lose on purpose but try to not make it look completely suspicious, wonder how that would be caught
    If they die without throwing a single punch I think it'll be pretty obvious, if they actually do some of the fight but still lose on purpose then yeah I don't know how they'll be able to catch the people doing it unless they actually watch the whole fight. If some folks are doing that thought it's fine, imagine how time consuming that must be lol at that point you're better off just playing normally and losing matches here and there (not on purpose of course)
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Vegeta9001 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    No it doesn't count. What's most likely happening is they're Tanking to farm Points for the Milestones, and best of luck to them. Kabam is taking action on it this Season.

    I struggle to see how they're going to take action against it meaningfully. Unless they announce some BG only suspensions or strip milestones. I can't see game wide suspensions for forfeiting games. Although I haven't read up on it and haven't been hugely active lately so could be way off base.
    I'm pretty sure they'll be able to easily tell if someone is forfeiting because something came up, they just didn't feel like doing that match etc or someone is forfeiting to farm points. Regardless of how they're doing it though, the people saying these are just empty threats are in for a rude awakening lol can't wait to see the complaints after season ends.
    Can't wait for the 40 threads, like the ones we saw of people complaining all their gold, glory, and loyalty were taken away, to pop up after that wave goes through 😎
    Or the ones about not getting
    rank rewards after season ends, I'm 100% they're not going to give them rank rewards either.
  • MAESTROSADMAESTROSAD Member Posts: 12 ★
    In the end, people who give up on the game don't hurt anyone, I often give up when I get a big sequence of players who are absurdly stronger than me.
  • MAESTROSADMAESTROSAD Member Posts: 12 ★
    Kabam should take a better look at the matchmaking mechanism to make it fair for everyone, both beginners and average players, and veterans too
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 5,300 ★★★★★
    MAESTROSAD said:

    Kabam should take a better look at the matchmaking mechanism to make it fair for everyone, both beginners and average players, and veterans too

    Who said competitions were fair?
  • Graves_3Graves_3 Member Posts: 1,553 ★★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Pikolu said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Vegeta9001 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    No it doesn't count. What's most likely happening is they're Tanking to farm Points for the Milestones, and best of luck to them. Kabam is taking action on it this Season.

    I struggle to see how they're going to take action against it meaningfully. Unless they announce some BG only suspensions or strip milestones. I can't see game wide suspensions for forfeiting games. Although I haven't read up on it and haven't been hugely active lately so could be way off base.
    I'm pretty sure they'll be able to easily tell if someone is forfeiting because something came up, they just didn't feel like doing that match etc or someone is forfeiting to farm points. Regardless of how they're doing it though, the people saying these are just empty threats are in for a rude awakening lol can't wait to see the complaints after season ends.
    Can't wait for the 40 threads, like the ones we saw of people complaining all their gold, glory, and loyalty were taken away, to pop up after that wave goes through 😎
    Or the ones about not getting
    rank rewards after season ends, I'm 100% they're not going to give them rank rewards either.
    Have you forgotten how kabam handled the mythic crystals issue?
  • MAESTROSADMAESTROSAD Member Posts: 12 ★
    The truth is that this new hut system will be useful for celestial levels where players go on a huge losing streak using energy and then win again using elder marks.
  • MAESTROSADMAESTROSAD Member Posts: 12 ★
    Now if you just give up for the sake of giving up, for example every 10 matches you give up two, that won't change anything because it won't be affecting anyone directly.
  • MAESTROSADMAESTROSAD Member Posts: 12 ★
    BringPopcorn said:

    MAESTROSAD said:

    Kabam should take a better look at the matchmaking mechanism to make it fair for everyone, both beginners and average players, and veterans too

    Who said competitions were fair?
    That's exactly why the quit button exists, kabam won't ban anyone who does this normally, it will do this to anyone who gives up on 50 matches in a row, as already happens
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,581 ★★★★★
    Graves_3 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Pikolu said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Vegeta9001 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    No it doesn't count. What's most likely happening is they're Tanking to farm Points for the Milestones, and best of luck to them. Kabam is taking action on it this Season.

    I struggle to see how they're going to take action against it meaningfully. Unless they announce some BG only suspensions or strip milestones. I can't see game wide suspensions for forfeiting games. Although I haven't read up on it and haven't been hugely active lately so could be way off base.
    I'm pretty sure they'll be able to easily tell if someone is forfeiting because something came up, they just didn't feel like doing that match etc or someone is forfeiting to farm points. Regardless of how they're doing it though, the people saying these are just empty threats are in for a rude awakening lol can't wait to see the complaints after season ends.
    Can't wait for the 40 threads, like the ones we saw of people complaining all their gold, glory, and loyalty were taken away, to pop up after that wave goes through 😎
    Or the ones about not getting
    rank rewards after season ends, I'm 100% they're not going to give them rank rewards either.
    Have you forgotten how kabam handled the mythic crystals issue?
    They removed the Rewards. In some cases, they couldn't round off Shards so they replaced Crystals. That was not an excuse to cheat.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Graves_3 said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Pikolu said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Vegeta9001 said:

    GroundedWisdom said:

    No it doesn't count. What's most likely happening is they're Tanking to farm Points for the Milestones, and best of luck to them. Kabam is taking action on it this Season.

    I struggle to see how they're going to take action against it meaningfully. Unless they announce some BG only suspensions or strip milestones. I can't see game wide suspensions for forfeiting games. Although I haven't read up on it and haven't been hugely active lately so could be way off base.
    I'm pretty sure they'll be able to easily tell if someone is forfeiting because something came up, they just didn't feel like doing that match etc or someone is forfeiting to farm points. Regardless of how they're doing it though, the people saying these are just empty threats are in for a rude awakening lol can't wait to see the complaints after season ends.
    Can't wait for the 40 threads, like the ones we saw of people complaining all their gold, glory, and loyalty were taken away, to pop up after that wave goes through 😎
    Or the ones about not getting
    rank rewards after season ends, I'm 100% they're not going to give them rank rewards either.
    Have you forgotten how kabam handled the mythic crystals issue?
    I have not, however I also haven't forgotten how they handled bots in arena and using alt accounts for free points in BGs, have you? Cause as far as I know all the people who engaged in this type of behavior were banned without exceptions. So yeah, while Kabam has indeed been screwing up pretty bad with the bugs and exploits, when it comes to cheating, it's a different story.
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