BG draft order still not random

Mofugger · November 2023

I'm 5 fights into the season and I've selected first each time.

I realize that 5 isn't yet a statistical improbability. But I am cataloging this to hopefully get some traction and a response. I didn't see a single thread on this issue from last season that got an admin response.

Mofugger · November 2023

Matches 6-8

Peregrinus · November 2023

I'm 12 fights into the season and I've selected first each time.🤣 Same like last season.

Mofugger · November 2023

Fights 9-11

Mofugger · November 2023

Matches 12-14

Bignos · November 2023

Still making me pick first every time too. 20 fights and always picking first. Makes BGs not fun anymore

Peregrinus · November 2023

I will continuously enter all the statistics from this BGs season here. if this is not random, how can we believe that matchmaking and other content work correctly?

Gogi · November 2023

Pick order does not matter, it's same format..
Also what make you you think you are the only one picking first? for all you know your opponent could go 50 matches as first picker.

AverageDesi · November 2023

Gogi said:
Pick order does not matter, it's same format..
Also what make you you think you are the only one picking first? for all you know your opponent could go 50 matches as first picker.

Pick order absolutely does matter. And kabam knows this and is working on finding the root issue

Mofugger · November 2023

Matches 15-18. The casual observer will note that I am now 17 and 1 at getting first pick.

Peregrinus · November 2023

Matches 13-17 (includes one rage quit). Nothing new - still "random" first pick. @Kabam Miike what is with my account wrong?

Mofugger · November 2023

Matches 19-21. Picked first in 20 of 21. Your disagrees nourish me.

Shivacrux · November 2023

Legend has it that the more you talk about it the more it would be going to happen

DNA3000 · November 2023

Peregrinus said:
I will continuously enter all the statistics from this BGs season here. if this is not random, how can we believe that matchmaking and other content work correctly?

It isn’t completely random. Kabam is aware of the situation and it is among the things they are investigating and/or working on for the game mode.

Mofugger · November 2023

DNA3000 said:
It isn’t completely random. Kabam is aware of the situation and it is among the things they are investigating and/or working on for the game mode.

I believe you that they are aware of the situation, but how are any of the people facing this issue supposed to know that. I don't see it on the Trello board.

It's entirely possible that I missed some forum communication, but I've tracked several threads on this issue. I don't recall any of them being merged, commented on by admin, or generally acknowledged in any way, despite the tendency of the discourse on this issue to get a bit off the rails.

If they can chime in on who has and hasn't cheated, or the quality of cyber weekend deals, then the silence I've seen on this issue seems pretty intentional.

Peregrinus · November 2023

Matches 18-21. Nothing new - still first pick🤮

Peregrinus · November 2023

Matches 22-28. Nothing new - still first pick. 🤮Devs, can you stop sticking your head in the sand and take a stand on this? when will you fix it? How do you want to compensate my lost time and wasted resources?

Stature · November 2023

If it helps, you are not alone. I'm 8 on 8 picking first this season. After last season where I picked second twice in over a 100 matches. There are a few more threads from last season where others have had this issue.

This has been around for a while, never been officially acknowledged. You aren't going to find any sympathy on the forums for this or an acknowledgement from the team. It could be a top priority for the devs or not, we don't know. When there is a fix it'll probably be in the patch notes. I wouldn't expect any additional communication on this.

Peregrinus · November 2023

Stature said:
If it helps, you are not alone. I'm 8 on 8 picking first this season. After last season where I picked second twice in over a 100 matches. There are a few more threads from last season where others have had this issue.

This has been around for a while, never been officially acknowledged. You aren't going to find any sympathy on the forums for this or an acknowledgement from the team. It could be a top priority for the devs or not, we don't know. When there is a fix it'll probably be in the patch notes. I wouldn't expect any additional communication on this.

I also had the same problem last season, but I had no proof. Now I record every round.

I'm not asking for anyone's sympathy. I'm pointing out a bug that systematically damages some players. I will point to it until the developers issue an official statement.🖖

Vegeta9001 · November 2023

I've been the same but I'm only.playing for the bi-daily rewards so I've only had 9 so far.

Stature · November 2023

Peregrinus said:

Stature said:
If it helps, you are not alone. I'm 8 on 8 picking first this season. After last season where I picked second twice in over a 100 matches. There are a few more threads from last season where others have had this issue.

This has been around for a while, never been officially acknowledged. You aren't going to find any sympathy on the forums for this or an acknowledgement from the team. It could be a top priority for the devs or not, we don't know. When there is a fix it'll probably be in the patch notes. I wouldn't expect any additional communication on this.

I also had the same problem last season, but I had no proof. Now I record every round.

I'm not asking for anyone's sympathy. I'm pointing out a bug that systematically damages some players. I will point to it until the developers issue an official statement.🖖

Good luck to you and you have my support on this.

I agree that this is a substantial cost on people who are affected, equivalent of hundreds of units, probably more. If you keep continuing just be prepared that some forum members will try to shut you down, irrespective of the proof you have.

iDestroyerZ · November 2023

ALL of my matches in bg at this point i selected first, at this point i just expect it to happen and move on, it's really annoying but what can i do =/

Ironman3000 · November 2023

Winners adapt, losers make excuses.

DocWest · November 2023

I’ve selected first every single match this season. Last season I only selected second about 4 times and that was towards the very end of the season when I graduated to GC. I fully expect to always select first at this point and have gotten used to it. The rare occasion where I select second genuinely confuses me for a few seconds. I try tapping a champ until I realize it’s not mine or that character is not even in my deck lol

Stature · November 2023

Ironman3000 said:
Winners adapt, losers make excuses.

Easy to say when you are benefiting from it. Who is making excuses, nobody has complained about the difficulty of matches. An objective penalty which is guaranteed to bring down win rates is not an excuse.

Crossy76 · November 2023

there was plenty of post about this. all seems ignored by kabam mcoc team .
is it a problem?
yes it is .
will kabam respond?
I don't think so.

Ironman3000 · November 2023

Stature said:

Ironman3000 said:
Winners adapt, losers make excuses.
Easy to say when you are benefiting from it. Who is making excuses, nobody has complained about the difficulty of matches. An objective penalty which is guaranteed to bring down win rates is not an excuse.

Wrong. The better player should win regardless of the draft order. Draft RNG is a much bigger factor than draft order in determining the winner.

LordSmasher · November 2023

Ironman3000 said:

Stature said:

Ironman3000 said:
Winners adapt, losers make excuses.
Easy to say when you are benefiting from it. Who is making excuses, nobody has complained about the difficulty of matches. An objective penalty which is guaranteed to bring down win rates is not an excuse.
Wrong. The better player should win regardless of the draft order. Draft RNG is a much bigger factor than draft order in determining the winner.

Agree with that however always picking first is a bug and should be fixed.

Stature · November 2023

Ironman3000 said:

Stature said:

Ironman3000 said:
Winners adapt, losers make excuses.
Easy to say when you are benefiting from it. Who is making excuses, nobody has complained about the difficulty of matches. An objective penalty which is guaranteed to bring down win rates is not an excuse.
Wrong. The better player should win regardless of the draft order. Draft RNG is a much bigger factor than draft order in determining the winner.

Doesn't matter what is a bigger factor. Draft order is still a factor. Permanent picking first is a handicap I have to deal with and you don't. In fact, everyone who isn't suffering from the bug is actually benefiting by picking first more often than they would in a fair system, by passing on that handicap to a small set of players. So, it is fairly ridiculous of you to come and belittle the people you are freeriding on.

Ironman3000 · November 2023

Stature said:

Ironman3000 said:

Stature said:

Ironman3000 said:
Winners adapt, losers make excuses.
Easy to say when you are benefiting from it. Who is making excuses, nobody has complained about the difficulty of matches. An objective penalty which is guaranteed to bring down win rates is not an excuse.
Wrong. The better player should win regardless of the draft order. Draft RNG is a much bigger factor than draft order in determining the winner.
Doesn't matter what is a bigger factor. Draft order is still a factor. Permanent picking first is a handicap I have to deal with and you don't. In fact, everyone who isn't suffering from the bug is actually benefiting by picking first more often than they would in a fair system, by passing on that handicap to a small set of players. So, it is fairly ridiculous of you to come an belittle the people you are freeriding on.

You can get better and deal with it or complain on the forums and hope it changes. I know what I'd choose.

BG draft order still not random

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