@Kabam Miike EDIT: Right is left, left is right, damn, its 2 AM here
Since its kinda meh to write it, I just edited some of the fixes I think would be appropiate without destroying the economy of the game:
First of all, the Greater Banquet Crystals:
Right side is the current one, left side is my change
I dont think at the current state of the game, we should have 2 6* Sig Stone prizes, so I changed it so we only have the generic ones only.
Buffed the 7* Shards a little bit, since I dont know the chances still, guessing those are above the lower % ones, I think those buffs are kinda fair, both basic and Titan shards.
We had also 2 prizes for T5 basic, the lowest one was removed.
No more changes here.
Also changed the ISO rewards inside the GBC, the first amounts are the current ones, the last amounts are the ones I would wish for, the ones in the middle are the fair ones.
Now, the Solo Milestones:
Right side is the current one, left side is my change
Removed the T2 Alpha rewards and lowered one Tier the points overall.
6* Awakening Gem reduced to one, and lowered the points till put it right after the Deathless piece.
T5 Basic Cats removed.
5-Star relic turned into Nexus.
T5 CC, T3 Alpha and T6 Basic buffed from 1 to 3.
6-Star Relic turned into Nexus. ( I dont think its that gamebreaking to make it Nexus)
T6 Class Catalyst Selector points lowered.
6* Rank Up Crystal 4 to 5 added.
Titan Shards added.
I think those changes are fair enough without being gamebreaking.
And finally the alliance milestones:
Right side is the current one, left side is my change
T2 Alpha and T5 Basic removed and T3 and T6 added instead, one of each.
Tier 1 Primordial Dust removed .
6* Shards points lowered into the T1 Dust place.
6* Rank Up Gem 3 to 4 added.
T3 Alpha frags removed, T6 Class 50% Crystal added instead.
T6 Basic Frags removed, 7* Shards added instead; 2500 (I dont think its too much, can be lowered but I think this is fair enough)
Now, I think this changes are enough to fix the players negative feedback, but the ranked rewards need also need several tweaks, rewards from 601-2600 to 100% should be looken into, in this case Ill just write it down instead of make a comparison table:
Minimum 6 Rank up Gems should be 3 to 4, remove the lower ones.
7* Shards should be buffed, how come top 601 spender only gets 2.500 Titan shards, I dont think thats fair at all, same with the basic ones.
We need more Relic Nexuses for top rewards.
6* Crystals, nexus or not, should be class at least for higher ranks.
And some buffs in calendar rewards from Dec 21 to Jan 3:
Turn 2k 4*Shards into 10k 5* Shards.
Turn 5k 5*Shards into 5k 6*Shards, both days
Turn 4k 6*Shards into 2.5k 7* Shards.
Those would be the changes overall, I think most of them are fair enough for both the players and the company, I dont know if you guys have enough time to change them or not, but I think it would be very nice to give an additional "compensation" or "gift" package with the rewards I changed above for the players that would have reached that rewards.
I hope this at least helps for the next event if you cant fix this one before it starts.
Man I was wondering when someone would do this! lol thanks for doing this man I think its definitely better then before
It took a while to put it all together to look decent lol, I hope its a little bit useful at least
@Kabam Miike EDIT: Right is left, left is right, damn, its 2 AM here
Since its kinda meh to write it, I just edited some of the fixes I think would be appropiate without destroying the economy of the game:
First of all, the Greater Banquet Crystals:
Right side is the current one, left side is my change
I dont think at the current state of the game, we should have 2 6* Sig Stone prizes, so I changed it so we only have the generic ones only.
Buffed the 7* Shards a little bit, since I dont know the chances still, guessing those are above the lower % ones, I think those buffs are kinda fair, both basic and Titan shards.
We had also 2 prizes for T5 basic, the lowest one was removed.
No more changes here.
Also changed the ISO rewards inside the GBC, the first amounts are the current ones, the last amounts are the ones I would wish for, the ones in the middle are the fair ones.
Now, the Solo Milestones:
Right side is the current one, left side is my change
Removed the T2 Alpha rewards and lowered one Tier the points overall.
6* Awakening Gem reduced to one, and lowered the points till put it right after the Deathless piece.
T5 Basic Cats removed.
5-Star relic turned into Nexus.
T5 CC, T3 Alpha and T6 Basic buffed from 1 to 3.
6-Star Relic turned into Nexus. ( I dont think its that gamebreaking to make it Nexus)
T6 Class Catalyst Selector points lowered.
6* Rank Up Crystal 4 to 5 added.
Titan Shards added.
I think those changes are fair enough without being gamebreaking.
And finally the alliance milestones:
Right side is the current one, left side is my change
T2 Alpha and T5 Basic removed and T3 and T6 added instead, one of each.
Tier 1 Primordial Dust removed .
6* Shards points lowered into the T1 Dust place.
6* Rank Up Gem 3 to 4 added.
T3 Alpha frags removed, T6 Class 50% Crystal added instead.
T6 Basic Frags removed, 7* Shards added instead; 2500 (I dont think its too much, can be lowered but I think this is fair enough)
Now, I think this changes are enough to fix the players negative feedback, but the ranked rewards need also need several tweaks, rewards from 601-2600 to 100% should be looken into, in this case Ill just write it down instead of make a comparison table:
Minimum 6 Rank up Gems should be 3 to 4, remove the lower ones.
7* Shards should be buffed, how come top 601 spender only gets 2.500 Titan shards, I dont think thats fair at all, same with the basic ones.
We need more Relic Nexuses for top rewards.
6* Crystals, nexus or not, should be class at least for higher ranks.
And some buffs in calendar rewards from Dec 21 to Jan 3:
Turn 2k 4*Shards into 10k 5* Shards.
Turn 5k 5*Shards into 5k 6*Shards, both days
Turn 4k 6*Shards into 2.5k 7* Shards.
Those would be the changes overall, I think most of them are fair enough for both the players and the company, I dont know if you guys have enough time to change them or not, but I think it would be very nice to give an additional "compensation" or "gift" package with the rewards I changed above for the players that would have reached that rewards.
I hope this at least helps for the next event if you cant fix this one before it starts.
the main gripe for people will be solo ones. i understand kabam crashed mentioned next year it will be progression based that will sort out everything. if its not to late then get rid of some milestones that are there twice like 6ag or t5 add paragon/valiant restricted one or two milestone on top. Ally one maybe not this year next year. Late paragon or valiants have no use for most stuff in solo. Also kindly 1t6b and 1t3a? come on last year it was the same you can bump it upto 3. cav or tb getting one r4 wont be game breaking but community will appreciate these small changes.
Hey guys, I see lots of feedback, and have been thinking about what to respond with. Honestly, I don't know if there is anything to respond with, and I don't think there's anything I can say that will change opinions here.
This event is something people look forward to, and it's something that we strive to deliver on. This year, we made improvements in every way possible, so your direct feedback with actual actionable items would be appreciated to help me understand.
We reduced the number of points available for opening each Greater Gifting Crystal, but also reduced the points needed to hit that same milestone last year. Last year, there was 15 Solo Event milestones, with the top reward being a 5-Star Relic at 100,000 points. Buy and opening 25 crystals got you that Milestone. This year, the 15th Milestone is at 75,600 points and is a 6-Star Abyss Nexus Crystal. To get there, you would need to buy and open 28 GBCs. Yes, that is 3 more than before, but it's also arguably a better reward than the Relic Crystal.
There are also 5 additional Milestones available, and while I get that people are looking at last year's as "I got everything for 25 Crystals", that's not really a fair way to look at this. We extended the runway, added more Milestones for those that want to complete it, and took nothing away from those who don't want to go any further than what they did last time.
The Alliance event also has one additional Milestone, but to hit the 15th Milestone, it requires fewer crystals from across the whole Alliance than it did to hit the 15th (and final) Milestone of last year. We added one more Milestone this year for those that want to go for it. I think people are looking at those rewards tables as 100% vs 100%, not as the number of milestones, which is how they really should be looked at.
Additionally, these Crystals have better rewards than the last year's crystals.
Of course, we can't compare last year's event to this one directly; there's been a lot of changes in the Game, with the addition of 7 Stars, Ascension, and higher ranks, but that doesn't mean that we are going to go crazy with all of those materials. There are a lot of comments on wanting more 7-Star Shards or Rank 3 Materials (we were explicit with where you can expect to get the first available R3 7-Stars), and while I understand where you're coming from, nobody wants to live in a world where we burn through 7-Stars in a year and need to introduce 8-Stars in 2024. There will always be taps that are opened slowly, otherwise we end up burning through content and that's not good for the game.
I appreciate all of your feedback, but if you have something a bit more actionable or precise as to why you're upset, I would love to take that to the team for future consideration. I want to understand, so we can improve for the future.
I think the inflation's been the biggest it's ever been since I started playing this year. …
But hey, those are the relatively jaded opinions of a valiant who, aside from Colossus from a titan, has been getting a lot of good pulls recently. Maybe the people who got Spider-man and Gwen from necropolis completion instead of Hulk and Titania feel differently.
As for actionable feedback, keep the inflation down? Obviously the glaring thing is doing banquet right after releasing everest content that massively skews everyone's value of in game items, so don't do that again I guess?
In April, I had no r5 champs. Now i have 15 plus 4 7r2 and I haven’t done necropolis. What inflation?
I only have 106 different 6-stars at r3 or higher. These t5b and t2a will be a huge help to fix this roster deficiency.
Seriously though - last year’s milestones were building something that I literally didn’t have. This year’s milestones are giving me one champ in a pool of 20.
I don’t care about the points, just the actual cost to hit the milestone. If it’s still 300 units per crystal then measuring/comparing milestones in crystals makes sense.
Most of the comparisons I’ve see show fairly equal rewards to last year for the same milestones. That’s a big let down given how much the game has shifted in the last year.
I haven’t read every comment but I haven’t seen anyone actually asking for R3 materials. That is an extreme ask and I agree with excluding those this year.
I did expect to see significantly more 7* crystals/shards and 7*R2 materials.
I also hoped to see 6* 3-4 and 4-5 gems to help save catalysts for 7* rank ups. I don’t think generics would be game breaking but 6*4-5 class gems would tone it down a bit and still be welcome.
In years past, the banquet could be account changing for me. I always lag a bit behind “end-game” status. This year, I don’t see anything being account changing as announced. More 7*s, 7* R2 materials, and 6* 4-5 gems could be though if I get lucky. And that’s the fun part to me. Cyber deals are known, banquet is a big roll of the dice.
I’ve commented plenty in this thread and others. Actionable suggestions can be found there.
Three points:
1. It seems out of touch for players to believe Banquet would be sufficient to catapult players to Valiant/R3s. 2. It seems equally out of touch to believe that a rehash of last year’s Banquet prizes would delight players, especially given all that has transpired in-game in the intervening year. 3. There is ample room between 1&2 to have built an event that would have delighted players.
So many casual spenders are not going to spend a dime on this event including me. @Kabam Miike you've just shot yourself in the foot with one of your biggest money maker events.
The rewards allround (with the exception of the pinnacle solo rewards) are pitiful to put it lightly. Go have a look at your monthly thronebreaker quest, what your various stores sell and then think about what you are offering to your player base.
I cannot believe a game team (and especially you the community managers) is so out of touch with what your player base wants. They literally comment on these forums daily.
I’ve commented plenty in this thread and others. Actionable suggestions can be found there.
Three points:
1. It seems out of touch for players to believe Banquet would be sufficient to catapult players to Valiant/R3s. 2. It seems equally out of touch to believe that a rehash of last year’s Banquet prizes would delight players, especially given all that has transpired in-game in the intervening year. 3. There is ample room between 1&2 to have built an event that would have delighted players.
Dr. Zola
Point number one is essentially a straw man to detract from any discussion about the relative rarity of 6r5/7r2 mats IMO. (I don’t mean from you…I mean from Miike)
Hey guys, I see lots of feedback, and have been thinking about what to respond with. Honestly, I don't know if there is anything to respond with, and I don't think there's anything I can say that will change opinions here.
This event is something people look forward to, and it's something that we strive to deliver on. This year, we made improvements in every way possible, so your direct feedback with actual actionable items would be appreciated to help me understand.
We reduced the number of points available for opening each Greater Gifting Crystal, but also reduced the points needed to hit that same milestone last year. Last year, there was 15 Solo Event milestones, with the top reward being a 5-Star Relic at 100,000 points. Buy and opening 25 crystals got you that Milestone. This year, the 15th Milestone is at 75,600 points and is a 6-Star Abyss Nexus Crystal. To get there, you would need to buy and open 28 GBCs. Yes, that is 3 more than before, but it's also arguably a better reward than the Relic Crystal.
There are also 5 additional Milestones available, and while I get that people are looking at last year's as "I got everything for 25 Crystals", that's not really a fair way to look at this. We extended the runway, added more Milestones for those that want to complete it, and took nothing away from those who don't want to go any further than what they did last time.
The Alliance event also has one additional Milestone, but to hit the 15th Milestone, it requires fewer crystals from across the whole Alliance than it did to hit the 15th (and final) Milestone of last year. We added one more Milestone this year for those that want to go for it. I think people are looking at those rewards tables as 100% vs 100%, not as the number of milestones, which is how they really should be looked at.
Additionally, these Crystals have better rewards than the last year's crystals.
Of course, we can't compare last year's event to this one directly; there's been a lot of changes in the Game, with the addition of 7 Stars, Ascension, and higher ranks, but that doesn't mean that we are going to go crazy with all of those materials. There are a lot of comments on wanting more 7-Star Shards or Rank 3 Materials (we were explicit with where you can expect to get the first available R3 7-Stars), and while I understand where you're coming from, nobody wants to live in a world where we burn through 7-Stars in a year and need to introduce 8-Stars in 2024. There will always be taps that are opened slowly, otherwise we end up burning through content and that's not good for the game.
I appreciate all of your feedback, but if you have something a bit more actionable or precise as to why you're upset, I would love to take that to the team for future consideration. I want to understand, so we can improve for the future.
Miike I’m going to be as constructive as possible and sum it up in one little explanation. The problem is with necropolis dropping and 7 stars being pushed on us, and valiant requiring 2 r 3 7 stars you guys have almost made 6 stars irrelevant. That I believe is the biggest backlash for the banquet event. Yes rewards are nice but not pushing much to enable rank 5 6 stars, r2 7 stars, and in no way helping rank 3 a 7 star in order to reach the newest progression level. You want us to advance you say but it’s all behind a pay wall. The only way to r3 7 stars and become valiant until 8.4 drops if you have finished 8.3 was to spend out the yin yang over cyber weekend for lackluster deals or 100% necropolis. I think everyone was hoping to see a bit more 7 star mats, 7 star shards, ascension materials, etc. With 7 stars being the pushed future 6 stars have now become the new 5 star and almost working towards irrelevancy. Just my take on what I see going on in the thread.
I appreciate all of your feedback, but if you have something a bit more actionable or precise as to why you're upset, I would love to take that to the team for future consideration. I want to understand, so we can improve for the future.
Sure, I do have something more actionable, and I believe I speak for all the end game paragon+ players when I say this. We all wanted more 7* shards.
So here’s an action item, increase the amount of 7* shards, you could even remove the small amount of r3 materials if you’d like. What you’ve said doesn’t make sense because just allowing us to accumulate more 7*s will not bring on 8*s any sooner, you are doing it right by slowing down the progression of ranking up 7*s and I hope we don’t see any r4s for a while, but just letting people get more 7*s won’t do that.
Another action item, you could have the crystals be different for each progression level if you’re worried about low level players getting too much good stuff too early.
And the last one, the solo events should also be tied to progression levels so the end game players get the rewards they actually want.
Hopefully we see some change, because with everyone hating the rewards, it’s very likely this years banquet event will bring noticeably less income. Unless the cash offers are where all the 7* stuff will be at, which could somewhat redeem this, but would be sad to see.
If you could at least reply to this so I know it was seen and if any of these are possibly being taken into consideration that would be great.
Hey guys, I see lots of feedback, and have been thinking about what to respond with. Honestly, I don't know if there is anything to respond with, and I don't think there's anything I can say that will change opinions here.
This event is something people look forward to, and it's something that we strive to deliver on. This year, we made improvements in every way possible, so your direct feedback with actual actionable items would be appreciated to help me understand.
We reduced the number of points available for opening each Greater Gifting Crystal, but also reduced the points needed to hit that same milestone last year. Last year, there was 15 Solo Event milestones, with the top reward being a 5-Star Relic at 100,000 points. Buy and opening 25 crystals got you that Milestone. This year, the 15th Milestone is at 75,600 points and is a 6-Star Abyss Nexus Crystal. To get there, you would need to buy and open 28 GBCs. Yes, that is 3 more than before, but it's also arguably a better reward than the Relic Crystal.
There are also 5 additional Milestones available, and while I get that people are looking at last year's as "I got everything for 25 Crystals", that's not really a fair way to look at this. We extended the runway, added more Milestones for those that want to complete it, and took nothing away from those who don't want to go any further than what they did last time.
The Alliance event also has one additional Milestone, but to hit the 15th Milestone, it requires fewer crystals from across the whole Alliance than it did to hit the 15th (and final) Milestone of last year. We added one more Milestone this year for those that want to go for it. I think people are looking at those rewards tables as 100% vs 100%, not as the number of milestones, which is how they really should be looked at.
Additionally, these Crystals have better rewards than the last year's crystals.
Of course, we can't compare last year's event to this one directly; there's been a lot of changes in the Game, with the addition of 7 Stars, Ascension, and higher ranks, but that doesn't mean that we are going to go crazy with all of those materials. There are a lot of comments on wanting more 7-Star Shards or Rank 3 Materials (we were explicit with where you can expect to get the first available R3 7-Stars), and while I understand where you're coming from, nobody wants to live in a world where we burn through 7-Stars in a year and need to introduce 8-Stars in 2024. There will always be taps that are opened slowly, otherwise we end up burning through content and that's not good for the game.
I appreciate all of your feedback, but if you have something a bit more actionable or precise as to why you're upset, I would love to take that to the team for future consideration. I want to understand, so we can improve for the future.
What about gifting consumables? Can we do that this year?
I wish they put more ascension dust (tier 2), titan and 7 star basic shards and 1-2 7 stars gems and why is there only a quarter of a tier 3 alpha and tier 6 basic in the alliance event they should at least be 1 FULL catalyst and if the GBCs were 210 units that would be such an improvement.
Cost of a crystal stays the same, milestone rewards stay basically the same … rank rewards go down and points per crystal purchased go down … if inflation has been running at 10% on goods and services - why does the top milestone for the solo cost 3X last year … ? 🤷♂️
And “the rewards are better” is not a reasonable answer… because they have been better every year … maybe I’m just asking from the vacuum
@Kabam Miike EDIT: Right is left, left is right, damn, its 2 AM here
Since its kinda meh to write it, I just edited some of the fixes I think would be appropiate without destroying the economy of the game:
First of all, the Greater Banquet Crystals:
Right side is the current one, left side is my change
I dont think at the current state of the game, we should have 2 6* Sig Stone prizes, so I changed it so we only have the generic ones only.
Buffed the 7* Shards a little bit, since I dont know the chances still, guessing those are above the lower % ones, I think those buffs are kinda fair, both basic and Titan shards.
We had also 2 prizes for T5 basic, the lowest one was removed.
No more changes here.
Also changed the ISO rewards inside the GBC, the first amounts are the current ones, the last amounts are the ones I would wish for, the ones in the middle are the fair ones.
Now, the Solo Milestones:
Right side is the current one, left side is my change
Removed the T2 Alpha rewards and lowered one Tier the points overall.
6* Awakening Gem reduced to one, and lowered the points till put it right after the Deathless piece.
T5 Basic Cats removed.
5-Star relic turned into Nexus.
T5 CC, T3 Alpha and T6 Basic buffed from 1 to 3.
6-Star Relic turned into Nexus. ( I dont think its that gamebreaking to make it Nexus)
T6 Class Catalyst Selector points lowered.
6* Rank Up Crystal 4 to 5 added.
Titan Shards added.
I think those changes are fair enough without being gamebreaking.
And finally the alliance milestones:
Right side is the current one, left side is my change
T2 Alpha and T5 Basic removed and T3 and T6 added instead, one of each.
Tier 1 Primordial Dust removed .
6* Shards points lowered into the T1 Dust place.
6* Rank Up Gem 3 to 4 added.
T3 Alpha frags removed, T6 Class 50% Crystal added instead.
T6 Basic Frags removed, 7* Shards added instead; 2500 (I dont think its too much, can be lowered but I think this is fair enough)
Now, I think this changes are enough to fix the players negative feedback, but the ranked rewards need also need several tweaks, rewards from 601-2600 to 100% should be looken into, in this case Ill just write it down instead of make a comparison table:
Minimum 6 Rank up Gems should be 3 to 4, remove the lower ones.
7* Shards should be buffed, how come top 601 spender only gets 2.500 Titan shards, I dont think thats fair at all, same with the basic ones.
We need more Relic Nexuses for top rewards.
6* Crystals, nexus or not, should be class at least for higher ranks.
And some buffs in calendar rewards from Dec 21 to Jan 3:
Turn 2k 4*Shards into 10k 5* Shards.
Turn 5k 5*Shards into 5k 6*Shards, both days
Turn 4k 6*Shards into 2.5k 7* Shards.
Those would be the changes overall, I think most of them are fair enough for both the players and the company, I dont know if you guys have enough time to change them or not, but I think it would be very nice to give an additional "compensation" or "gift" package with the rewards I changed above for the players that would have reached that rewards.
I hope this at least helps for the next event if you cant fix this one before it starts.
Thank you for making this.
One thing I'd like to add about your last sentence, I hope they don't take this literally and use those rewards for next year cause they will be out of touch once again. Being one year behind on the meta just like they are one year behind this year.
@Kabam Miike EDIT: Right is left, left is right, damn, its 2 AM here
Since its kinda meh to write it, I just edited some of the fixes I think would be appropiate without destroying the economy of the game:
First of all, the Greater Banquet Crystals:
Right side is the current one, left side is my change
I dont think at the current state of the game, we should have 2 6* Sig Stone prizes, so I changed it so we only have the generic ones only.
Buffed the 7* Shards a little bit, since I dont know the chances still, guessing those are above the lower % ones, I think those buffs are kinda fair, both basic and Titan shards.
We had also 2 prizes for T5 basic, the lowest one was removed.
No more changes here.
Also changed the ISO rewards inside the GBC, the first amounts are the current ones, the last amounts are the ones I would wish for, the ones in the middle are the fair ones.
Now, the Solo Milestones:
Right side is the current one, left side is my change
Removed the T2 Alpha rewards and lowered one Tier the points overall.
6* Awakening Gem reduced to one, and lowered the points till put it right after the Deathless piece.
T5 Basic Cats removed.
5-Star relic turned into Nexus.
T5 CC, T3 Alpha and T6 Basic buffed from 1 to 3.
6-Star Relic turned into Nexus. ( I dont think its that gamebreaking to make it Nexus)
T6 Class Catalyst Selector points lowered.
6* Rank Up Crystal 4 to 5 added.
Titan Shards added.
I think those changes are fair enough without being gamebreaking.
And finally the alliance milestones:
Right side is the current one, left side is my change
T2 Alpha and T5 Basic removed and T3 and T6 added instead, one of each.
Tier 1 Primordial Dust removed .
6* Shards points lowered into the T1 Dust place.
6* Rank Up Gem 3 to 4 added.
T3 Alpha frags removed, T6 Class 50% Crystal added instead.
T6 Basic Frags removed, 7* Shards added instead; 2500 (I dont think its too much, can be lowered but I think this is fair enough)
Now, I think this changes are enough to fix the players negative feedback, but the ranked rewards need also need several tweaks, rewards from 601-2600 to 100% should be looken into, in this case Ill just write it down instead of make a comparison table:
Minimum 6 Rank up Gems should be 3 to 4, remove the lower ones.
7* Shards should be buffed, how come top 601 spender only gets 2.500 Titan shards, I dont think thats fair at all, same with the basic ones.
We need more Relic Nexuses for top rewards.
6* Crystals, nexus or not, should be class at least for higher ranks.
And some buffs in calendar rewards from Dec 21 to Jan 3:
Turn 2k 4*Shards into 10k 5* Shards.
Turn 5k 5*Shards into 5k 6*Shards, both days
Turn 4k 6*Shards into 2.5k 7* Shards.
Those would be the changes overall, I think most of them are fair enough for both the players and the company, I dont know if you guys have enough time to change them or not, but I think it would be very nice to give an additional "compensation" or "gift" package with the rewards I changed above for the players that would have reached that rewards.
I hope this at least helps for the next event if you cant fix this one before it starts.
Thank you for making this.
One thing I'd like to add about your last sentence, I hope they don't take this literally and use those rewards for next year cause they will be out of touch once again. Being one year behind on the meta just like they are one year behind this year.
I really like the 3-4 gem In alliance milestone, in the solo event I think they should make a 3-4 gem instead of the second 6 star awakening gem or tier 2 dust it’s just we don’t need another 6 star awakening gem one is enough lol
Another thing is why are we getting the same amount of T6Basic and T3Alpha as last year like come on at least a
3-4 gem or 2/3 full catalysts on alliance and solo event
like bro the economy of the game has changed so much since last years banquet last years banquet were legit giving out the first
rank 5 6 stars
and now there’s people with 30 r5 6 stars, I’m paragon and I only have 2 r5 6 stars like I’d much rather more r5s and r4s then fragments of T6Basics and T3Alpha (i just turned paragon last month) and i whaled out on cyber weekend which was really account improving
Hi, if I was to pick one thing that was somewhat actionable it would be that the amount of 7 star shards in the rank rewards be changed. It's my opinion of course, but I feel as though someone in the top 5% only getting 1k shards, when someone in the top 25% is also getting 1k shards, isn't reflective of their investment in the event.
Then why did you make the rank rewards so good?Ofc you have to get bread,but make the milestone rewards somewhat good for the ones who don't spend.You left the first few almost unchanged and added some new ones to "compensate" for the ones before those.If you at least left the points for opening/buying banquet crystals unchanged it would've been somehow better.I am waiting for the streams to see how pissed off the chats gonna be.You brought all of this on yourself,it aint gonna be pleasant for you to see the chat filled with "Make banquet great again","kascam" and things like those.Just do yourselves a favor and try to make up for the community with something.
i think increasing the 7 star r2 material and 7 star shards would genuinely fix this. we are in a state where most high level players are looking at those r2s and 7 star crystals and not really worrying about their 6 stars unless the 6 star fits a bg meta or is game breaking. so a simple change in the amount of t6b t3a and t6cc would make a massive impact as well as having 1500 or 3000 7 star shards instead of the 750 and 1500 from the gbcs. and making the titan crystal shards up to 1500 or 2000. that for me personally would make me want to buy the gbcs. as for the milestones adding some ascension for the solo milestones and 5000 titan shards since we have been getting 3000-5000 titan shards every month for a while would also help a lot. @Kabam Miike the reason its so disappointing is because we get better rewards for just completely the paragauntlet and side quests/objectives for the past few months as well as stuff like the 7 for 7 so using our hard earned units or real life money for something that we get abundance on for free feels really bad. all this event needs is a minor tuning and it would be good for all progressions in my opinion. ps. if it feels like giving lower level players these resources might break the game just do what we had with the legend event crystals or weekly crystals where some rewards require you to be paragon or valiant to get. hope this get taken into consideration as if the rewards stay the way they are i feel like most people wont bother with the banquet even and just keep units for July 4th or doing necropolis 100%.
There are those very rich guys playing this game that will spend about 90% of the game income during this event, thats what they are targeting, they dont care about your 10 or 20k units you grinded for in arena and events. Remmeber Cowhale drama? You guys will spend or not, the game will go on, that guy last year made a deposit because buying odins would have taken too long lol! Feel free to disagree and trash my post but it will not matter, i dont like the rewards either but it is what it is.
Since this event is not progression gated (probably fair for banquet) add two more solo milestones. One each for paragon and valiant with additional 7* shards and Titan shards.
Hey guys, I see lots of feedback, and have been thinking about what to respond with. Honestly, I don't know if there is anything to respond with, and I don't think there's anything I can say that will change opinions here.
This event is something people look forward to, and it's something that we strive to deliver on. This year, we made improvements in every way possible, so your direct feedback with actual actionable items would be appreciated to help me understand.
We reduced the number of points available for opening each Greater Gifting Crystal, but also reduced the points needed to hit that same milestone last year. Last year, there was 15 Solo Event milestones, with the top reward being a 5-Star Relic at 100,000 points. Buy and opening 25 crystals got you that Milestone. This year, the 15th Milestone is at 75,600 points and is a 6-Star Abyss Nexus Crystal. To get there, you would need to buy and open 28 GBCs. Yes, that is 3 more than before, but it's also arguably a better reward than the Relic Crystal.
There are also 5 additional Milestones available, and while I get that people are looking at last year's as "I got everything for 25 Crystals", that's not really a fair way to look at this. We extended the runway, added more Milestones for those that want to complete it, and took nothing away from those who don't want to go any further than what they did last time.
The Alliance event also has one additional Milestone, but to hit the 15th Milestone, it requires fewer crystals from across the whole Alliance than it did to hit the 15th (and final) Milestone of last year. We added one more Milestone this year for those that want to go for it. I think people are looking at those rewards tables as 100% vs 100%, not as the number of milestones, which is how they really should be looked at.
Additionally, these Crystals have better rewards than the last year's crystals.
Of course, we can't compare last year's event to this one directly; there's been a lot of changes in the Game, with the addition of 7 Stars, Ascension, and higher ranks, but that doesn't mean that we are going to go crazy with all of those materials. There are a lot of comments on wanting more 7-Star Shards or Rank 3 Materials (we were explicit with where you can expect to get the first available R3 7-Stars), and while I understand where you're coming from, nobody wants to live in a world where we burn through 7-Stars in a year and need to introduce 8-Stars in 2024. There will always be taps that are opened slowly, otherwise we end up burning through content and that's not good for the game.
I appreciate all of your feedback, but if you have something a bit more actionable or precise as to why you're upset, I would love to take that to the team for future consideration. I want to understand, so we can improve for the future.
What r3 material are you saying btw that tier 3 alpha and tier 6 basis lolss are you for serious yes that t6cc is something but if you reallly saying that 7* r3 stuff then it should be atleassssst 15k to 25k fragments of t4 alpha that was a really something.
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I only have 106 different 6-stars at r3 or higher. These t5b and t2a will be a huge help to fix this roster deficiency.
Seriously though - last year’s milestones were building something that I literally didn’t have. This year’s milestones are giving me one champ in a pool of 20.
I don’t care about the points, just the actual cost to hit the milestone. If it’s still 300 units per crystal then measuring/comparing milestones in crystals makes sense.
Most of the comparisons I’ve see show fairly equal rewards to last year for the same milestones. That’s a big let down given how much the game has shifted in the last year.
I haven’t read every comment but I haven’t seen anyone actually asking for R3 materials. That is an extreme ask and I agree with excluding those this year.
I did expect to see significantly more 7* crystals/shards and 7*R2 materials.
I also hoped to see 6* 3-4 and 4-5 gems to help save catalysts for 7* rank ups. I don’t think generics would be game breaking but 6*4-5 class gems would tone it down a bit and still be welcome.
In years past, the banquet could be account changing for me. I always lag a bit behind “end-game” status. This year, I don’t see anything being account changing as announced. More 7*s, 7* R2 materials, and 6* 4-5 gems could be though if I get lucky. And that’s the fun part to me. Cyber deals are known, banquet is a big roll of the dice.
Three points:
1. It seems out of touch for players to believe Banquet would be sufficient to catapult players to Valiant/R3s.
2. It seems equally out of touch to believe that a rehash of last year’s Banquet prizes would delight players, especially given all that has transpired in-game in the intervening year.
3. There is ample room between 1&2 to have built an event that would have delighted players.
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The rewards allround (with the exception of the pinnacle solo rewards) are pitiful to put it lightly. Go have a look at your monthly thronebreaker quest, what your various stores sell and then think about what you are offering to your player base.
I cannot believe a game team (and especially you the community managers) is so out of touch with what your player base wants. They literally comment on these forums daily.
So here’s an action item, increase the amount of 7* shards, you could even remove the small amount of r3 materials if you’d like. What you’ve said doesn’t make sense because just allowing us to accumulate more 7*s will not bring on 8*s any sooner, you are doing it right by slowing down the progression of ranking up 7*s and I hope we don’t see any r4s for a while, but just letting people get more 7*s won’t do that.
Another action item, you could have the crystals be different for each progression level if you’re worried about low level players getting too much good stuff too early.
And the last one, the solo events should also be tied to progression levels so the end game players get the rewards they actually want.
Hopefully we see some change, because with everyone hating the rewards, it’s very likely this years banquet event will bring noticeably less income. Unless the cash offers are where all the 7* stuff will be at, which could somewhat redeem this, but would be sad to see.
If you could at least reply to this so I know it was seen and if any of these are possibly being taken into consideration that would be great.
And “the rewards are better” is not a reasonable answer… because they have been better every year … maybe I’m just asking from the vacuum
One thing I'd like to add about your last sentence, I hope they don't take this literally and use those rewards for next year cause they will be out of touch once again. Being one year behind on the meta just like they are one year behind this year.
3-4 gem or 2/3 full catalysts on alliance and solo event
like bro the economy of the game has changed so much since last years banquet last years banquet were legit giving out the firstrank 5 6 stars
and now there’s people with 30 r5 6 stars, I’m paragon and I only have 2 r5 6 stars like I’d much rather more r5s and r4s then fragments of T6Basics and T3Alpha (i just turned paragon last month) and i whaled out on cyber weekend which was really account improvingps. if it feels like giving lower level players these resources might break the game just do what we had with the legend event crystals or weekly crystals where some rewards require you to be paragon or valiant to get.
hope this get taken into consideration as if the rewards stay the way they are i feel like most people wont bother with the banquet even and just keep units for July 4th or doing necropolis 100%.
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What r3 material are you saying btw that tier 3 alpha and tier 6 basis lolss are you for serious yes that t6cc is something but if you reallly saying that 7* r3 stuff then it should be atleassssst 15k to 25k fragments of t4 alpha that was a really something.