Kabam?? Seriously what's going on with AI? What !!

PT_99 · January 5

Why is AI doing that block hold, no hold, block again, no hold, block again 10 times in 1 seconds?

Why is AI NEVER throwing sp-1,2 but will IMMEDIATELY, the moment it reach RED will throw sp3 without thinking? Especially in war and BG, AI there have kink to hold specials till eternity.

I've also noticed that, espically after that December update, AI began to hold block in corner, making the player dash forward and then counter with light attack? Hello? Before we couldn't dash in when AI had special ready which is ok but now we can't even dash in because there's always risk that AI will counter it with light attack? There's some video from either MSD or Bero man that AI literally light countered him 3 times in a row, that's correct, 3 times in a row, player had unstoppable so it did not matter much but think about it 3 times in a row AI countered the move of player, what?

And don't get me started on this, I'll just let this meme do the talking.

Seriously you guys need to look at what AI is upto because that last AI update did nothing.

PT_99 · January 5

I'm not even using my left hand to parry,dex when fighting Chavez but still that woman spamming heavy like nothing,

I remember Jax saying that AI rolls the dice and comes with best action to do,

Is the best action for Chavez, Mysterio to spam heavy attack in row?
Is best action to light intercept players 3 times in row?
Is best action to hold specials to throw sp-3?
Come on.

PT_99 · January 5

Once again, this silly Wiccan in Necropolis decided to not use sp-2 and wait over a minute to fail my dex buffs to reach sp-3 by power gain, what's happening with this kink of sp-3

JT_Supreme · January 5

Sometimes Chavez starts the fight with a heavy even if I don’t block. She mad annoying.

laserjohn26 · January 5

Skill issue

Vegeta9001 · January 5

For science I literally timed out of BG matches because of 4 seperate champs holding specials for over 2 minutes of straight dex'ing

Sachhyam257 · January 5

Imagine my shock when I finished necropolis only to get sauced by a mere sq voodoo. He might be the hidden final boss of mcoc.

Crys23 · January 5

Haha, MSD and Bero complaining about the AI intercepting them, when they're the ones that made it popular. It learned from them.
Same with specials, passive play and all other ****. It's learning from us. The one that annoys me most is the full 5hit combos the moment you get clipped. Or the full combos into block when you're trying to bait a heavy.

PT_99 · January 5

Crys23 said:
Haha, MSD and Bero complaining about the AI intercepting them, when they're the ones that made it popular. It learned from them.
Same with specials, passive play and all other ****. It's learning from us. The one that annoys me most is the full 5hit combos the moment you get clipped. Or the full combos into block when you're trying to bait a heavy.

So you're saying if we all start play badly for a month, AI will get dumb? 🫨

Wolf911 · January 5

Don't forget them dexing whole specials

Icy000 · January 5

you're just imagining things, the AI is perfectly fine and working as intended.

Theruneking · January 5

laserjohn26 said:
Skill issue

I haven't seen you on aw thread posting these. Pls do, people are having severe skill issues there.

Ourobøros · January 5

I hate that they have champ specific AI, like having Fury use his sp1 even when you're blocking so he can get those charges and become unblock and as soon as he does he runs towards you like rent is due, or when Guilly99 uses her sp1 on your block to power drain you, Chavez trying to break the block that you ARE NOT holding so she can get charges, War Machine dashing back and just waiting for you to go after him so he uses his sp1 and even when you're blocking, Nightcrawler letting go of his block when you're almost switching he's mode, Red Skull just standing there so when you try hitting him he will immediately hold block, opponents refusing to hit your CAIW block so he can't get his shield up, and the list goes on....

Pikolu · January 5

PT_99 said:
I'm not even using my left hand to parry,dex when fighting Chavez but still that woman spamming heavy like nothing,

I remember Jax saying that AI rolls the dice and comes with best action to do,

Is the best action for Chavez, Mysterio to spam heavy attack in row?
Is best action to light intercept players 3 times in row?
Is best action to hold specials to throw sp-3?
Come on.

Not every single champion has the same kind of AI. This is easiest to observe in doom. If you get a shock on you, the AI will stop at nothing to try and doomslap you. I've watched doom try to slap me from all the way across the screen.

Chavez's AI is probably weighted to throw more heavies because without throwing a heavy, she is a stupid easy defender. Kindred also really likes to throw their heavy. If you fight venompool and want him to throw his sp2, just dash at him and he will throw it without fail to special intercept you.

Priyabrata · January 5

PT_99 said:
I'm not even using my left hand to parry,dex when fighting Chavez but still that woman spamming heavy like nothing,

I remember Jax saying that AI rolls the dice and comes with best action to do,

Is the best action for Chavez, Mysterio to spam heavy attack in row?
Is best action to light intercept players 3 times in row?
Is best action to hold specials to throw sp-3?
Come on.

Ok idk why you people can't seem to understand this but there's literally champ specific AI in place for a few champs, yes AI rolls a dice but there's different ones for some specific champs like
Mysterio, chavez , mordo, Heimdal , Night crawler, Fury, G2099 and a few others. They are simply programmed to have a higher chance to perform a specific action, like throwing heavies, dropping block, special into block, acting passive.

Yeah there's definitely a problem with the AI and it's doing some weird stuff still, I have experienced it first hand in BGs but if your argument is about why some champs act in a certain way it's because it is a component of their kit , it's to make them more annoying defenders,
I really am not trying to be rude here but how hard is it to wrap your head around that

peixemacaco · January 5

laserjohn26 said:
Skill issue

Emilia90 · January 5

Some champs are weighted differently, but the AI as a whole is horrible

I was fighting someone with Tigra and tried pushing them back with her double medium, but the AI reparried it. Can’t even hit into block anymore lol

PT_99 · January 5

Good to see no-one has counter for "getting light intercepted 3 times a row"
Surely that'll make Kabam take a look in AI behaviour.

PT_99 · January 5

Pikolu said:

PT_99 said:
I'm not even using my left hand to parry,dex when fighting Chavez but still that woman spamming heavy like nothing,

I remember Jax saying that AI rolls the dice and comes with best action to do,

Is the best action for Chavez, Mysterio to spam heavy attack in row?
Is best action to light intercept players 3 times in row?
Is best action to hold specials to throw sp-3?
Come on.
Not every single champion has the same kind of AI. This is easiest to observe in doom. If you get a shock on you, the AI will stop at nothing to try and doomslap you. I've watched doom try to slap me from all the way across the screen.

Chavez's AI is probably weighted to throw more heavies because without throwing a heavy, she is a stupid easy defender. Kindred also really likes to throw their heavy. If you fight venompool and want him to throw his sp2, just dash at him and he will throw it without fail to special intercept you.

Bruh I think that killmonger is more pressed to use his sp-2 right away, you just need to drop your block and he'd lunge at you from corner of screen to another, he was nightmare for me during act-5,6 😭

PT_99 · January 5

Priyabrata said:

PT_99 said:
I'm not even using my left hand to parry,dex when fighting Chavez but still that woman spamming heavy like nothing,

I remember Jax saying that AI rolls the dice and comes with best action to do,

Is the best action for Chavez, Mysterio to spam heavy attack in row?
Is best action to light intercept players 3 times in row?
Is best action to hold specials to throw sp-3?
Come on.
Ok idk why you people can't seem to understand this but there's literally champ specific AI in place for a few champs, yes AI rolls a dice but there's different ones for some specific champs like
Mysterio, chavez , mordo, Heimdal , Night crawler, Fury, G2099 and a few others. They are simply programmed to have a higher chance to perform a specific action, like throwing heavies, dropping block, special into block, acting passive.

Yeah there's definitely a problem with the AI and it's doing some weird stuff still, I have experienced it first hand in BGs but if your argument is about why some champs act in a certain way it's because it is a component of their kit , it's to make them more annoying defenders,
I really am not trying to be rude here but how hard is it to wrap your head around that

I also don't understand when the champ specific AI turns into whole personality of that defender, like what? Sure if Chavez, Mysterio throws heavy once in while randomly but to spam the heavy over and over and over and over is just bad design.

Ourobøros · January 5

I have another good one. You might successfully parry at the start of the fight about a dozen times, but when it comes to parrying Hulking with your Wiccan, he'll delay his hit by half a second and you will miss the parry and get damage through block from the 5HIT COMBO powered with Pierce and end up losing an obvious win match

Ayden_noah1 · January 5

I'm surprise you would be concern about anything in the game since you are The Paragon. Isn't The Paragon more skillful then the rest of the paragon and that nothing can defeat The Paragon. Seems like that title might have to be removed and past it on to someone else. We should have a poll to see who really deserves the title of "The Paragon".

PT_99 · January 5

Ayden_noah1 said:
I'm surprise you would be concern about anything in the game since you are The Paragon. Isn't The Paragon more skillful then the rest of the paragon and that nothing can defeat The Paragon. Seems like that title might have to be removed and past it on to someone else. We should have a poll to see who really deserves the title of "The Paragon".

Poll holds no value in front of my say. Pure authoritarian claim by me.
And it's THE.

NONYABIZZ · January 5

🤣🤣🤣 my guy, how u said everything in one post. Let's talk about ranged specials I prefer specials like iron man beams and stuff that keeps the AI in action champs like valk Sp2 final hit is a ranged attack that is just an object she throws at you so when u dex it she's already recovered and you run straight into combo 😭. I find AI delaying following my intercepts so many times for example if I try to light intercept instead of the AI to follow me it waits till I throw a light and draws me closer then it claps me 🤣. It's funny when I'm playing things like SQ but it hurts when it's AW 😭.
Also I've noticed don't try the same action 3 times in a row if u intercept and back draft 2 times don't do it the 3rd time because u will absolutely get clapped 🤣. Now let's talk about my baby Chavez. I love her in this current AI because she earns me lots of kills in War and she's my top champ but when I fight her 😭😭😭 tell me why shes throwing heavy from the other side of the screen who do u expect to hit with that 😭 when I miss a parry on mysterio bro just heavies. And also Ai has started special intercepting I've noticed with champs that the first hit is a ranged attack like War machines AI. I also almost got clapped by a Dani in war yesterday, that's right "A DANI" luckily I was using silk who evaded all through the special intercept. AI has definitely changed and it's become more uncooperative especially with champs who rely on specific actions like punishing heavies. Tell me why the AI suddenly becomes defensive when I'm using Dani moonstar 😆. I'm tryna build my neutral arrows first before the prowess then AI hits once and misses then dashes back and holds block till the falter duration is over. It's like the AI knows what we need most and just doesn't do it.

GrO_ot78 · January 5

Arena is almost unplayable too...defensive AI that stands in the corner and blocks, refuses to throw sp before sp3...but try heavy attack, then they throw it in your face...🤦🏻‍♂️
I also see that now if you try to intercept, then they dex and straight to attack...wtf 🤷🏻‍♂️

And what's up with the «Bishop flood» of defenders?!? Almost impossible to play 3vs3 without Bishop not in it, and he never appears before the fight...some defenders require specific attackers, maybe we shouldn't flood the arena with those defenders?!?

….instead of choosing to start over and work up new x3…I just don't bother playing anymore…and I refuse to believe I'm the only one…and yes, I have 250k+ pvp fights, I'm maybe a mediocre paragon with a 4.3 million account, but I know a little about the arena...fix it, please (!!!)

We are Groot 🌲

Darkknight_94 · January 5

Care to enlighten on this:

.

( one of my friend's fight)
1st frame: shows stun debuff from sp2 goes off, shuri still shaking tho( but fury was already in half way to hit her while she had 2 bars of power.
Just in..
2nd frame: not even a half mili second:
Shuri throws sp2 before fury could hit. ( i mean how would you beat that) considering fury was in middle of his hit to her . That should have contacted first then shuri using sp2 straightaway coming out of stun.

BringPopcorn · January 5

Is this keeping you away from becoming THE valiant?... Dang

Figue · January 6

The AI knows your inputs haha, thats why he plays better sometimes

annoying but it is what it is, be careful on your moves

PT_99 · January 6

Darkknight_94 said:
Care to enlighten on this:

.

( one of my friend's fight)
1st frame: shows stun debuff from sp2 goes off, shuri still shaking tho( but fury was already in half way to hit her while she had 2 bars of power.
Just in..
2nd frame: not even a half mili second:
Shuri throws sp2 before fury could hit. ( i mean how would you beat that) considering fury was in middle of his hit to her . That should have contacted first then shuri using sp2 straightaway coming out of stun.

Frame skipping, I also noticed that AI have started to use specials before they fully recover from throwing heavy or getting up from knockdown, crazy.

Like who thought that AI should skip the designed animation?? Now this is something Kabam should think, they design an animation but AI says mehhh and skips it?

Rasilover · January 6

Chavez easily top 3 worst to fight cause of her A.I

EdisonLaw · January 6

Some champs' AI are different than others. Killmonger and Venompool will try to intercept you a lot. Chavez and Kindred as well as Heimdall will throw a lot of heavies.

Kabam?? Seriously what's going on with AI? What !!

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