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The damage discrepancy between Onslaught and Dani Moonstar
SecondSkriller
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I’m trying to approach this topic in a polite way, by taking a look at the damage of these two 2023 Mutants.
Initially I presumed Dani would have an edge over Onslaught in some regard, anything, maybe perhaps her damage is better in shorter fights, considering the utility difference between the two is night and day. However, it seems that the only fight she’ll ever beat him in is Nick Fury…
I seriously urge the rebalance team to really tune her up properly, since there’s really no doubt in my mind that she’s the worst 2023 champion, far behind Gladiator even.
For Onslaught to have utility like he has, damage like he has and also insane defensive prowess, it makes no sense why Dani, a purely offensive champion with no immunities whatsoever, would get outclassed even in the damage department by him.
Here’s the numbers: Dani: 7 star rank 1 duped, Onslaught 6 star rank 4 ascended duped
I love her design and it sucks that the first native american champion in the game is so purposefully undertuned.
Initially I presumed Dani would have an edge over Onslaught in some regard, anything, maybe perhaps her damage is better in shorter fights, considering the utility difference between the two is night and day. However, it seems that the only fight she’ll ever beat him in is Nick Fury…
I seriously urge the rebalance team to really tune her up properly, since there’s really no doubt in my mind that she’s the worst 2023 champion, far behind Gladiator even.
For Onslaught to have utility like he has, damage like he has and also insane defensive prowess, it makes no sense why Dani, a purely offensive champion with no immunities whatsoever, would get outclassed even in the damage department by him.
Here’s the numbers: Dani: 7 star rank 1 duped, Onslaught 6 star rank 4 ascended duped
I love her design and it sucks that the first native american champion in the game is so purposefully undertuned.
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I use 6 star gambit relic and max cides 24 7 so of course its gonna be crazy tho🤷♂️
Judging from the pics of dani it doesnt even look like you played her right. Plus Onslaught is litteraly a champ that perma ramps up. It just goes and his damage goes up. While you reramp up dani after ramping her up. But most her opponents die within the sp3 rampup. And opponents with ROL Hp dies within a sp2 rampup. I have a R5 with gambit relic and im ascending her also her sp2 is physical. So the last hit doesnt matter if it crits or not. She also has the neuroshocks afterwards if it didnt die that will certainly kill it.
Basicly how you are comparing 2 champs with 2 different purposes with 2 different rampups with 2 different ways to use.
You can't or you shouldn't compare X to Y because the moment you do, you will always have a problem that X can't do something that Y can.
X = Kamala (Dani)
Y = CGR (Onslaught)
X can nulify on special attacks / every special is a fury / gain resistance per fury / puts armor break when you have fury with synergy / takes selfies and can embiggen.
Y can fate seal and heal block on 5 judgements If duped / has power gain / fury / crit / armor / can't dex a lot or lose cruelty damage / armor breaks / has bigger yellow numbers / has a flaming bike and guns
Comparing this Y looks more satisfying. But X in the other hand IS satisfying. Where Y needs dupe. X can do without dupe minus heal block. Where Y has big yellow numbers. X can actually dex and not lose damage and can gain a lot of fury. Where Y only has a flaming bike and guns. X has a cellphone and can go mr fantastic style.
Lesson kids : Don't Compare , rather prepare.
If they had been released with the same level of power then people would be complaining that Onslaught needs to be buffed.
Some folks just have to complain.
Here’s a R5 Dani vs R5 onslaught. I managed to get a faster time with Dani, does that mean onslaught needs tuning up?
Damage comparisons in RoL are probably the last place you should look for evidence of a need for rebalancing
And I got this time without the crit on the last hit of the special. So 58 seconds is the cut off between being ok, but any more and they need a tune up?
And besides, using an insane damage champion like Onslaught as the bench mark? Why not go ahead and compare her utility to Hercules and say she sucks based on that too.
Edit: without any sp3 prowess ofc.
How am I wrong?