Which Champions are at a class disadvantage, but really have an advantage?

Coach_G1Coach_G1 Member Posts: 42 ★
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This got me to thinking because Future Antman was driving me crazy to find a counter for him. Did some research, and ArchAngel is an amazing counter for him. So would like to start a list of sorts of some other Champions that are at a class disadvantage, but are a top-tier counter for their counterpart:

ArchAngel - Future Antman

I have some others (I think) but am curious as to what the community comes up with…
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  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 8,098 ★★★★★
    Mags nd onslaught against techs.
    Void and mister negative against kingpin
    Kingpin against apocalypse
  • Bugmat78Bugmat78 Member Posts: 2,357 ★★★★★
    edited February 1
    I agree with most calls in here

    Void vs Kingpin
    Titania vs plenty Skills champs due to haybreaker
    Rags vs most tech (metal) except Nimmy, OS and maybe Shuri
    Torch vs BWDO
    Bishop vs Nimrod, Shuri, N ebula
    Thing vs BWDO

    I'm sure there are others I forget.
  • hungryhungrybbqhungryhungrybbq Member Posts: 2,199 ★★★★★
    edited February 1
    Diablo vs Thing.. literally a top counter for him especially in AW with any kind of healing nodes
    He's perfect for these fights the Poison both cuts him down quickly and mitigates the healing.. embarrasses him
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 6,302 ★★★★★
    edited February 1
    Havok vs Shuri
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,070 ★★★★★
    I've once took down Nimrod with Kitty in war, only once tho.
  • knupdiputsknupdiputs Member Posts: 44 ★
    I love Wasp vs Kingpin.
  • hungryhungrybbqhungryhungrybbq Member Posts: 2,199 ★★★★★
    Thinking about making a compilation of takedowns lol.. he's that good against him
    https://youtu.be/s7NX7_t_CoI?si=V8-Dk5VFsNOjeZov
  • Coach_G1Coach_G1 Member Posts: 42 ★
    Thokk150 said:

    Actually a decently high sig fantman can fully counter archangel, as he will be constantly regenerating his health and making sure the bleeds don't stick around enough for you to apply poisons, but I guess that with sp1 or sp2 and a bit of rng you could get some neuros up (also with the sp3).
    My pitch would be titania, that totally counters nick's second life with despair and a well timed sp3, she counters kingpin, as he gives her a ton of furies by purifiying her debuffs, and while korg and attuma are not ideal fights she can definetly do them far more comfortably than most other champs with class advantage.

    Ahh good point, maybe it was the few Antmans I faced in BGs (usually an insta-ban for me) and the event quests where his sig wasnt as high? Thank you for pointing that out.

    Some really great responses here cant wait to try these out!
  • jshanso2jshanso2 Member Posts: 41 ★
    Honestly Namor can do a lot even to bleed immune and Robots. I know he doesn't get extra outrage against robots, but they still stack at a consistent pace. Last BG season he killed it no matter who it was. Once he got to Imperius Rex and he throws L2 and L1 back to back it was a ton of damage. Plus I know not a class disadvantage, but I still use him against Korg 90% of the time because he does rack up outrage fast.
  • peixemacacopeixemacaco Member Posts: 2,353 ★★★★
    Juggernaut x anyone
  • _Pez__Pez_ Member Posts: 247 ★★★
    Kitty has been surprisingly good against fantman in this BG meta
  • RebarkRebark Member Posts: 370 ★★★
    HT x Moondragon
  • VenoweenVenoween Member Posts: 170 ★
    Pikolu said:

    Wozzle007 said:

    By the disagree, someone thinks that Mutant Magneto doesn’t have an advantage against Tech #Metal champions? I’d like to understand the rationale for this.

    There's just people who go through posts and click disagree on anything. They don't actually read what they're disagreeing with.


    I disagree. What were you talking about?
  • Darkness275Darkness275 Member Posts: 849 ★★★★
    Kingpin against most mutants TBH, particularly ones that rely on debuffs but don't have a mechanic that punishes their debuffs being shrugged/purified.
  • Toproller89Toproller89 Member Posts: 801 ★★★
    Nimrod against Hyperion. He can power control him somewhat when he launches specials. And can mitigate and tank his sp3 damage with cowardice if need be.
  • MagrailothosMagrailothos Member Posts: 5,862 ★★★★★
    Punisher-2099 does great against Cosmics who don't have a decent Power Gain. And even if they do, at high Sig he can hold them off an SP3 pretty reliably. If you need a Tech option for handling cosmic opponents like Galan, Gladiator, Knull or Terrax, he's brilliant.
  • Thokk150Thokk150 Member Posts: 89 ★
    peixemacaco said:

    Juggernaut x anyone

    call_me_og said:

    peixemacaco said:

    Juggernaut x anyone

    anyone thats not void
    Another example would be nimrod, or photon, or hercules etc etc, juggs is insane but he doesn't work in a lot of matchups
  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 3,298 ★★★★
    Proxima gets countered by most techs and wiccan v thing is just fun
  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 3,298 ★★★★
    Thokk150 said:

    peixemacaco said:

    Juggernaut x anyone

    call_me_og said:

    peixemacaco said:

    Juggernaut x anyone

    anyone thats not void
    Another example would be nimrod, or photon, or hercules etc etc, juggs is insane but he doesn't work in a lot of matchups
    I learnt that the hard way when I tried to use him against knull
  • MagrailothosMagrailothos Member Posts: 5,862 ★★★★★
    JLordVileJ said:

    Proxima gets countered by most techs and wiccan v thing is just fun

    They really need to rework her, so she doesn't use Prowess...
  • Coach_G1Coach_G1 Member Posts: 42 ★
    Ghost just destroyed Hyperion in BGs…
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