Winter of Woe Community Chat [MERGED THREADS]

Figured it'd be a good idea to get this started so people can discuss what works and what doesn't. Please feel free to post feedback below!

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IvarTheBoneless

Yeah the problem is the DOT immune node causes abs man to be immune to all red damage. Abs man, overseer, dragon man, ... all no red damage so imo not really good options

ItsClobberinTime

One thing I will say, they need to stop adding brute force nodes when the AI is so passive with specials cause it's just annoying like what am I supposed to do there? Oh well I guess I'll just die?
Yep its hard to get a hit when they just block when they have a special

Or worse, dash in at you ten times and refuse to throw it I just lost like 50% health because of that and it really is dumb. Either turn off sp3 like in rol or remove brute force, the node is very unfair when the AI acts like this.

xLunatiXx

Void is useful, if you have the patience to bait his L1 and make sure to hit him every so often. His Debuffs aren't DoT, so it works.

Don't think people in this chat want to fight this outside of objectives

Emilia90

Yeah the problem is the DOT immune node causes abs man to be immune to all red damage. Abs man, overseer, dragon man, ... all no red damage so imo not really good options

No scorpion for the sinister six objective either. I have no sandman so this looks like hell. I don’t think shocker or mysterio could pull it off tbh

Madman_marvin

I maxed out objectives last time we had Summer of Pain. However, it looks like I’m sitting out the content this time around. 10 energy per try when you have to fight perfect or die in three hits all the while trying to come up with the perfect strategy is too much. They missed the mark on this one. I get it’s supposed to be hard. I really do, but part of MCOC is figuring out counters to certain situations. The current setup, does not allow that on this AbMan.

ItsClobberinTime

I'll copy my comment from another chat regarding warlock:
Warlock looked good in theory to counter his regen but his hits don't apply virus charges. The only way to healblock is with parry but that get's you killed quick with abs man's red damage.

I wanna say bug but idk if im overlooking a node interaction

Yes Warlock is bugged atm for the fight but he should be top option if they actually fix the issue before the second week is over.

Squammo

I’d love to try some different champs, but having to spend 10 energy per try makes this quite difficult. Guess I will be waiting a few days to see who the best options are and then try with those.

Madman_marvin

One thing I will say, they need to stop adding brute force nodes when the AI is so passive with specials cause it's just annoying like what am I supposed to do there? Oh well I guess I'll just die?
Yep its hard to get a hit when they just block when they have a special
Or worse, dash in at you ten times and refuse to throw it I just lost like 50% health because of that and it really is dumb. Either turn off sp3 like in rol or remove brute force, the node is very unfair when the AI acts like this.

I’ve had BG matches with my Scorpion where I hold heavy for up to 10 seconds with the opponent standing there holding block. This AbMan acts just like that.

benshb

Being curious here... Went with sandman, and for around 600 hits I haven't seen one crit from me. Can anybody else crit against him?
Or basically absman's 20% flat crit resist totally negates sandman's crit chance?

Fara_

Pass. Deathless piece is 5k units. I'm going to spend way more to score 18 points. Sucks that they gatekeeped the Deathless Groot piece behind this content. It is BY FAR the most difficult piece to get, yet. Leagues beyond the previous ones.

ItsClobberinTime

One thing I will say, they need to stop adding brute force nodes when the AI is so passive with specials cause it's just annoying like what am I supposed to do there? Oh well I guess I'll just die?
This. And one AI being annoying moment = death so there’s another 10 energy that’s gone. I wouldn’t really care if the 10 energy requirement wasn’t there, but now you get screwed even if you play well and the AI decides to suck

Yeah, very annoying. I had a relatively good run with Sandman and took like 60% with no boosts but then he started being passive and brute force killed me, it's just dumb. I think brute force is overkill here honestly cause not only do you have to watch out for the unstoppable, you have to bait specials. Sometimes there will be situations where you finally manage to bait the special but the unstoppable timer runs out right after the special and he goes unstoppable immediately so now you have to parry and throw a light assuming he didn't refine cause if he did you're dead if you parry too it's just too much.

ReignkingTW

Is now a good time to ask where our compensation is for bugged Overseer from Summer of Pain?

ReignkingTW

Pass. Deathless piece is 5k units. I'm going to spend way more to get 18 points. Sucks that they gatekeeped the Deathless Groot behind this content. It is BY FAR the most difficult piecce to achieve, yet. Leagues beyond the previous pieces.

It's feeling that way so far. 1 hour in and kt1 hasn't soloed.

captain_rogers

Titania worked well for me , managed to deal 50% health damage before dying, mine is 7* r2. Just Alternate between his specials and make use of her haymaker.

GroundedWisdom

Void is useful, if you have the patience to bait his L1 and make sure to hit him every so often. His Debuffs aren't DoT, so it works.
Don't think people in this chat want to fight this outside of objectives

Up to them. Personally I'm looking for the best solution, then the Objectives.

IvarTheBoneless

Titania worked well for me , managed to deal 50% health damage before dying, mine is 7* r2. Just Alternate between his specials and make use of her haymaker.

Void is useful, if you have the patience to bait his L1 and make sure to hit him every so often. His Debuffs aren't DoT, so it works.
Don't think people in this chat want to fight this outside of objectives

Suros_moon

Titania worked well for me , managed to deal 50% health damage before dying, mine is 7* r2. Just Alternate between his specials and make use of her haymaker.

Objectives bud

captain_rogers

@Kabam Miike you have to take this feedback in

1) Make the energy one per tile, let us enjoy trying with different champs with no penalty, This event is too tough so most players end up using revives anyways .

2) Can anyone confirm whether I could get the valiant objective if I become valiant in few days?

The_0wenpus

I'd suggest using Sasquatch for the Gamma objective. Stagger on heavy means no unstoppable if you play right, intercepting specials. However, Sassy's main damage source of his sp2 doesn't work with dot immunity. His sp3 is the way to go.

altavista

Game is very slow to load, probably cause of all the people trying this.

I tried my 7R1 Hulk. Quickly KO'd a few times, before I was able to get in one stun-lock loop. Managed to get him down to 88% in one loop, and then took an SP3 to the face. I'll probably toss some boosts and revives at this if I'm able to take off 25% at a time.

ItsClobberinTime

I'd suggest using Sasquatch for the Gamma objective. Stagger on heavy means no unstoppable if you play right, intercepting specials. However, Sassy's main damage source of his sp2 doesn't work with dot immunity. His sp3 is the way to go.

Tried that already, unfortunately yeah no ruptures means no damage so you're looking at a 10-20 minute fight. Not sure if that's viable lol

Suros_moon

I'd suggest using Sasquatch for the Gamma objective. Stagger on heavy means no unstoppable if you play right, intercepting specials. However, Sassy's main damage source of his sp2 doesn't work with dot immunity. His sp3 is the way to go.

How is he possibly dealing with the regen? I got a solo with sandman thanks to despair. Working my way towards a solo with she hulk who can just brute force it Sassy has no way to stop regen without DOT

altavista

I'd suggest using Sasquatch for the Gamma objective. Stagger on heavy means no unstoppable if you play right, intercepting specials. However, Sassy's main damage source of his sp2 doesn't work with dot immunity. His sp3 is the way to go.

Have you tried this? Seems like parry-heavy is hampered in this fight with all the chip damage, so would have to rely on Striker stun timing to get in a free stagger.

TheAngryOne

Awful quest design considering node combinations and energy cost.

Thx but no thx.

The_0wenpus

I'd suggest using Sasquatch for the Gamma objective. Stagger on heavy means no unstoppable if you play right, intercepting specials. However, Sassy's main damage source of his sp2 doesn't work with dot immunity. His sp3 is the way to go.
Have you tried this? Seems like parry-heavy is hampered in this fight with all the chip damage, so would have to rely on Striker stun timing to get in a free stagger.

The only parry-heavy necessary is the first one. All others are from heavy intercepting specials.

RiderofHell

Still waiting on the legendary fun and interactive format they keep talking about for 9 years now?. 🤔

Ashacekar

So far i m just testing out stuff, 10 energy thing does hurt. Here's my results:
1. I took 20% health with Overseer
2. I tried Sassy, he cancels unstoppable with heavy but damage is less so it can be slow and long fight
3. I tried Abs Man himself, sadly no incinerates on magma form takes a damp
4. For robots, i tried Dragon Man and then Warlock but not happy with results
5. I tried HT for fun but Nova flame also doesn't work

Now i will just see and observe one shots from YT if i get inspired to do it. Best i see using revives and continuing with Overseer but it can be stressful and i will take some time.

Emilia90

My best try with an objective champ so far is hulk (took him to 48%). I’m gonna take a break cause this is way too much

I thought Kabam was on the mend with this sort of stuff after how good Necro was, but I shouldn’t get my hopes up from now on I guess

ItsClobberinTime

My best try with an objective champ so far is hulk (took him to 48%). I’m gonna take a break cause this is way too much

I thought Kabam was on the mend with this sort of stuff after how good Necro was, but I shouldn’t get my hopes up from now on I guess

Does Hulk deal any burst damage?

GroundedWisdom

Yeah, testing is brutal so far. Insane start to it. Not to mention the Energy it's taking to test options.