Winter of Woe Community Chat [MERGED THREADS]

Figured it'd be a good idea to get this started so people can discuss what works and what doesn't. Please feel free to post feedback below!

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Polygon

So to sum up the only options are
Gamma - She Hulk or Hulk
Robot - Guillotine 2099 (maybe Warlock if they fix bug)
Sinister 6 - Sandman
Does anyone know any other options people can done it with? Limiting content to that low of a champ pool is just ridiculous. The game is RNG based there will be less than 0.1% of the player base that has all these options available and ranked up.

So to sum up the only options are
Gamma - She Hulk or Hulk
Robot - Guillotine 2099 (maybe Warlock if they fix bug)
Sinister 6 - Sandman
Does anyone know any other options people can done it with? Limiting content to that low of a champ pool is just ridiculous. The game is RNG based there will be less than 0.1% of the player base that has all these options available and ranked up.
It's literally called the newest everest content, for late paragons and valiants. With these optimal champs R3 + a few revive should be enough. If you don't have these counters, or can't rank them to R3/r4 easily, then this content is not for you

Are you trying to farm disagrees or just genuinely this incompetent?

The challenge overall is cool. Not really fun as i found his AI to be weird. Sandman (sp2 spam) and hulk(sp3 rotation,), are soloable. g2099 is painful bs sp1 spam and wish he won't crit into block .

I love how people complained about sandman as a 7* from the crystal, where some of us ended up with a Moondragon.

I’m gonna have to do the sinister six with a 5* sandman

ItsClobberinTime

So to sum up the only options are
Gamma - She Hulk or Hulk
Robot - Guillotine 2099 (maybe Warlock if they fix bug)
Sinister 6 - Sandman
Does anyone know any other options people can done it with? Limiting content to that low of a champ pool is just ridiculous. The game is RNG based there will be less than 0.1% of the player base that has all these options available and ranked up.

So to sum up the only options are
Gamma - She Hulk or Hulk
Robot - Guillotine 2099 (maybe Warlock if they fix bug)
Sinister 6 - Sandman
Does anyone know any other options people can done it with? Limiting content to that low of a champ pool is just ridiculous. The game is RNG based there will be less than 0.1% of the player base that has all these options available and ranked up.
It's literally called the newest everest content, for late paragons and valiants. With these optimal champs R3 + a few revive should be enough. If you don't have these counters, or can't rank them to R3/r4 easily, then this content is not for you
You can only get away with saying that up to a certain point. The overwhelming majority of feedback on here is that it's overtuned and too restrictive. That can always be subjective, but better Players than myself agree, so that blanket statement doesn't apply here. It's not meant for everyone, sure. When it's that limited overall, why bother putting it out for Paragons at all? Just release it for Valiant alone.
Sometimes that statement applies. I don't think it applies in this case.
This, the whole objective thing wouldn't be as much of an issue if multiple champs from each tag worked. Problem? There are only like two champs from each tag that actually work, robots don't have a single one and the one that works (Warlock) is bugged. The restrictions this time around are absolutely ridiculous and I believe the right wording here should be "Everest Content Meant for Whale Sized Accounts" not "Everest Content Made for Endgame Players". I can guarantee not a single f2p Paragon will be able to get those objectives done even if they've already done at least one Necropolis path and have all story content 100%.
I think it's a combination of things, really. Individually they're not too much, but all together, it's overboard. I'm usually silent on these things but I agree it's a bit much. The limiting options PLUS Brute Force and the Nodes PLUS the Energy cost for exploring options and retrying PLUS the lack of room to miss Points.....etc.

Oh I totally agree, you read the rest of my comments on this thread, it's really just the perfect storm.
Let's hope they tune it down but I'm not going to get high hopes, realistically the only thing I'm expecting is the Warlock bug to be fixed.

Kiptonade

Has anyone tried with a vison just thinking it’s slow but at least easily stops the heal and can just time around the unstoppables

Crasyduck

Doesn't fit the objectives, but a solo is a solo

sfu_korax

Being real here: let's summarise the requirements for this fight.

Absorbing man has already high physical and energy resistance respectively in his different forms, that seriously reduce your attack damage output. => Your basic attacks most of the time will not be that effective against him.

Absorbing man has a ridiculous regeneration that gets stronger as his health depletes. You can stop that regen only by cancelling his form (has a cooldown). You can't reverse that regen because of the nodes. => While dealing low damage and chipping him away, he keeps healing all that back, and best you can do is heal block him.

Every once in a while, he will go unstoppable. => Unless you counter it, you will have to stop hitting him for periods of time (allowing the regen to heal him back up).

If you stop hitting him for a period if time, you will take direct damage. You can't block, because he will crit and kill you. => You need to keep hitting him, even though the unstoppable will prevent you from it, and finding openings can be risky when you can't block.

Your basic damage is already really low due to resistances, but he is also immune to all sorts of damaging debuffs and direct damage effects. => You can't do anything else than use your basic and special attacks, that deal low damage. Most champions nowadays rely on more than just raw basic damage, making them frustrating to use in this scenario.

Even if you use a seemingly good counter like she-hulk, the AI can still make the fight really annoying, by being passive, letting your furies drop, or stalling when the regen is up and your petrify isn't. => Even if you use a counter, there still are things outside of your control that can modify how the fight will go.

On top of all of that, you need to spend 10 energy in order to even reach this boss.

This to me is no longer considered "challenging content". Being completely honest and fair, it's just bad game design.

CRUH

The robot objective is so painfully specific and nearly impossible that after trying so many times (and having to use energy refills to do so:( ) I just feel defeated and cheated. I now can’t get king groot beau don’t have a specific champion at 7* r3 or have a huge pile of money to throw at revives. It’s annoying and when I open the game it’s all I can think about and makes me just want to close it and not do any of the semi decent monthly content either, I’ve never wanted to quit the game even through the most terrible of events, but not being able to get the trophy champion unless I pay an unholy amount of units now is really annoying as I’ve struggled through the other content to get pieces and planned to do so for all the rest. Worst of all, I know this rant is doing literally nothing but getting my feelings out. This sucks and I really don’t see a reason to continue playing at the moment

jcphillips7

Was able to get the solo with my r4 Sandman

Now I suppose I need to r3 my She-Hulk and take her and Warlock for a spin

ItsClobberinTime

Being real here: let's summarise the requirements for this fight.

Absorbing man has already high physical and energy resistance respectively in his different forms, that seriously reduce your attack damage output. => Your basic attacks most of the time will not be that effective against him.

Absorbing man has a ridiculous regeneration that gets stronger as his health depletes. You can stop that regen only by cancelling his form (has a cooldown). You can't reverse that regen because of the nodes. => While dealing low damage and chipping him away, he keeps healing all that back, and best you can do is heal block him.

Every once in a while, he will go unstoppable. => Unless you counter it, you will have to stop hitting him for periods of time (allowing the regen to heal him back up).

If you stop hitting him for a period if time, you will take direct damage. You can't block, because he will crit and kill you. => You need to keep hitting him, even though the unstoppable will prevent you from it, and finding openings can be risky when you can't block.

Your basic damage is already really low due to resistances, but he is also immune to all sorts of damaging debuffs and direct damage effects. => You can't do anything else than use your basic and special attacks, that deal low damage. Most champions nowadays rely on more than just raw basic damage, making them frustrating to use in this scenario.

Even if you use a seemingly good counter like she-hulk, the AI can still make the fight really annoying, by being passive, letting your furies drop, or stalling when the regen is up and your petrify isn't. => Even if you use a counter, there still are things outside of your control that can modify how the fight will go.

On top of all of that, you need to spend 10 energy in order to even reach this boss.

This to me is no longer considered "challenging content". Being completely honest and fair, it's just bad game design.

Thank you for spelling it out for the people disagreeing. This looks like it was designed by the same people who designed per nerf Act 6: full of bs.

ItsClobberinTime

Was able to get the solo with my r4 Sandman

Now I suppose I need to r3 my She-Hulk and take her and Warlock for a spin

Warlock is bugged, won't work.

MerseysideRed

And have in mind that this fight will also be in the final quest with another 4 on the path and god knows what set of objectives.

Buttehrs

I've seen screen shots and maybe a vid or two of ihulk working.

jcphillips7

Was able to get the solo with my r4 Sandman

Now I suppose I need to r3 my She-Hulk and take her and Warlock for a spin
Warlock is bugged, won't work.

Someone mentioned this was going to be fixed soon.

Bendy

Im debating on skipping the robot objective as i dont have the patience to keep going at it and trying to not use revives due to already wasting a lot trying hulk and failing badly

Meme_Emergency1

Axew

Being real here: let's summarise the requirements for this fight.

Absorbing man has already high physical and energy resistance respectively in his different forms, that seriously reduce your attack damage output. => Your basic attacks most of the time will not be that effective against him.

Absorbing man has a ridiculous regeneration that gets stronger as his health depletes. You can stop that regen only by cancelling his form (has a cooldown). You can't reverse that regen because of the nodes. => While dealing low damage and chipping him away, he keeps healing all that back, and best you can do is heal block him.

Every once in a while, he will go unstoppable. => Unless you counter it, you will have to stop hitting him for periods of time (allowing the regen to heal him back up).

If you stop hitting him for a period if time, you will take direct damage. You can't block, because he will crit and kill you. => You need to keep hitting him, even though the unstoppable will prevent you from it, and finding openings can be risky when you can't block.

Your basic damage is already really low due to resistances, but he is also immune to all sorts of damaging debuffs and direct damage effects. => You can't do anything else than use your basic and special attacks, that deal low damage. Most champions nowadays rely on more than just raw basic damage, making them frustrating to use in this scenario.

Even if you use a seemingly good counter like she-hulk, the AI can still make the fight really annoying, by being passive, letting your furies drop, or stalling when the regen is up and your petrify isn't. => Even if you use a counter, there still are things outside of your control that can modify how the fight will go.

On top of all of that, you need to spend 10 energy in order to even reach this boss.

This to me is no longer considered "challenging content". Being completely honest and fair, it's just bad game design.

Can’t agree more, there has to be a degree of fun involved in these fights. In its current state it’s just pure frustration

startropics

this content just comes off as "how do we drain their stashes year round with time sensitive content that's not even fun?".

abs man is just a cheap fight, it's mostly frustration with minimal upside. we don't lose because we messed up, we lose because there's very limited space for skill.

victor158

The fight is hard but I don't really mind that. Both solos, hulk is 7r3, sandman 6r3 but slightly boosted
The energy requirement is stupid imo. Discourages actually learning the fight and getting better, hope they change it even a little

Emilia90

Finally got him down with r2 Hulk. Went for the sp3 after deactivating his form with max furies and got like a 200k sp3. Then I stun locked him twice, and he didn’t throw an sp3 so I was able to get more damage off. Hulk hits like a truck here but you have to line everything up so perfectly. So glad I did Necro for this guy now

Just have Sinister Six left and there’s literally only one viable option that I’m aware of…what were they thinking with that. Might have to do a 20 minute rank 5 5* sandman fight

TheFifty9Sound

I'm ok with everything but the energy requirement. I don't mind using revives to get through hard content, or having to use specific champs. However, I'm more likely to avoid this content all together than I am to practice and spend revives once I'm comfortable having learned fight the mechanics.

Deacon

Has anyone tried with a vison just thinking it’s slow but at least easily stops the heal and can just time around the unstoppables

DON'T.

He's magically immune to his power being burned because poop. So no heal block. And before you move on to Viv, her main damage he's immune to as well.

Loki_Poki1280

https://youtu.be/yixVhuuAYT4?si=jOA_Buczr1fhpSBp

Lets gooo. (Too bad he isn't a Carina Challenge 😅)

ChiliDog

Another Kabam...Let's take something fun and make it SUK, 10 energy.

zuffy

What is the hulk sp3 rotation?

Musikmen

More than a minute each fight without the AI throwing a special is awful and not helping

JT_Supreme

What is the hulk sp3 rotation?

Throw an sp3 when you have near 15 fury’s. also knock him down to lose form before sp3. If low enough health go into an sp1 spam and stun lock him. Or do two sp3 and then sp1 stun lock

zuffy

What is the hulk sp3 rotation?
Throw an sp3 when you have near 15 fury’s. also knock him down to lose form before sp3. If low enough health go into an sp1 spam and stun lock him. Or do two sp3 and then sp1 stun lock

Thanks. Going to give it a try now.

Bendy

Im fully tapping out of the robot tag its just so much block damage let alone ai being cooperative with specials i applaud anyone for actually getting it done as so much needs to align with the unstoppable specials and removing the uru forms

DrZola

You guys think Kabam will actually respond? Sincerely hope so because…seriously what is this lmao

You mean the way Jax responded re: the Incursions blackout screens the team was “looking into?”

Dr. Zola

PT_99

Remember boys, content is hard because Hercules is in game, oh wait, even if you use him it won't progress you towards actual rewards. 🤣

JT_Supreme

Remember boys, content is hard because Hercules is in game, oh wait, even if you use him it won't progress you towards actual rewards. 🤣

Abs counters herc. Kabams gonna make this eop herc proof from how op he was last eop. Like necropolis.