karatemike's challenges recap , i find it actually the most well designed

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  • Hickdog27Hickdog27 Member Posts: 140 ★★

    I got a question, doea Iron Man need to be awakened for this challenge? Im asking cause im wondering if i should prioritize 6* or 7* Iron man

    I had the same question going in. Ended up ranking my 7 star unduped over the 6 star. No regrets. Damage is insane and I didn’t miss the regen because I always activate it accidentally after the first sp1 anyway.

  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 5,087 ★★★★★
    Still waiting to open the 7* romance crystal, before doing the mojo, and gauntlet runs. 3 left.
    Looking for 7* mojo dupe and 7* iron man.
    Really not looking forward to pull midvisible woman. Big fat eww.
    Got the mojo dupe from incursions. Les go
    5r5 200, 6r4 200, 7r1 20, will be a good team.

    Also instead of buying the store 500 unit offer, I bought this EQ proven offer.

    30% boosts and team revives will come clutch.

    Everything is prepared. Just waiting if I can pull a 7* iron man too. Otherwise full avenger team is 6*r3 atm. All important ones sigged up. Was planning to r4 BW.
    But things changed, r4 mats are not as common as some people speak off.
    Need those mats to r2 some important 7*s for BGs.

    Waiting for the SQ, need that 50 t1 ascention dust for 5* Zemo.
    Got somthing to actually plan for with these challanges.
    Still don't need me a Zemo, but I have made my peace with r3 run and using items instead.
  • Milan1405Milan1405 Member Posts: 952 ★★★★

    Still waiting to open the 7* romance crystal, before doing the mojo, and gauntlet runs. 3 left.
    Looking for 7* mojo dupe and 7* iron man.
    Really not looking forward to pull midvisible woman. Big fat eww.
    Got the mojo dupe from incursions. Les go
    5r5 200, 6r4 200, 7r1 20, will be a good team.

    Also instead of buying the store 500 unit offer, I bought this EQ proven offer.

    30% boosts and team revives will come clutch.

    Everything is prepared. Just waiting if I can pull a 7* iron man too. Otherwise full avenger team is 6*r3 atm. All important ones sigged up. Was planning to r4 BW.
    But things changed, r4 mats are not as common as some people speak off.
    Need those mats to r2 some important 7*s for BGs.

    Waiting for the SQ, need that 50 t1 ascention dust for 5* Zemo.
    Got somthing to actually plan for with these challanges.
    Still don't need me a Zemo, but I have made my peace with r3 run and using items instead.

    Good luck man.
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 5,087 ★★★★★
    edited February 25
    Bugmat78 said:

    Done with tigra R5a, jabari 6r3 Fun
    Next is mojo 7r1, 6r4 200, then

    Going to finish this week
    6r3 200 widow
    6r3 200 thor
    6r3 60 Hawkeye
    6r3 60 antman
    6r3 100 IM

    6r3 140(atm) Zemo
    5r5a 200 Zemo
    Willing to dump items if I don't have to upgrade Zemo. Have saved 30% boosts.

    Cost of items revives/units for that tigra/jabari run?
    @Bugmat78

    Tigra R5a 200
    Jabari r3 sig 1

    1 30% champion boost
    1 20% champion
    2 20% health
    1 15% health
    3 15% attack
    1 200% mystic power back
    1 12% mystic special

    Herc solo
    -Boost activated here
    Havok solo
    Warlock 1
    Fury 1
    Modok- 9 jabari (lol)
    Blade 2
    Terry solo
    Dragon solo
    Peni 1
    Scorp 1 jabari
    Icaris 1
    Kraven 1
    30% boost ended. Took a break.
    Reactivated medium boosts.
    Overseer 4
    Bishop solo
    Xbones 1 jabari
    Dorm 6 jabari (lol)

    Thanos team solo no revives.
    Tigra took him at 30% Jabrooni soloed last 30%.
    Got a cool screenshot to end.


    Would suggest to read some of the nodes or make a strategy. Could have been Cheaper. I was re-learning everything here lmao.
  • Jack2634Jack2634 Member Posts: 920 ★★★

    Bugmat78 said:

    Done with tigra R5a, jabari 6r3 Fun
    Next is mojo 7r1, 6r4 200, then

    Going to finish this week
    6r3 200 widow
    6r3 200 thor
    6r3 60 Hawkeye
    6r3 60 antman
    6r3 100 IM

    6r3 140(atm) Zemo
    5r5a 200 Zemo
    Willing to dump items if I don't have to upgrade Zemo. Have saved 30% boosts.

    Cost of items revives/units for that tigra/jabari run?
    @Bugmat78

    Tigra R5a 200
    Jabari r3 sig 1

    1 30% champion boost
    1 20% champion
    2 20% health
    1 15% health
    3 15% attack
    1 200% mystic power back
    1 12% mystic special

    Herc solo
    -Boost activated here
    Havok solo
    Warlock 1
    Fury 1
    Modok- 9 jabari (lol)
    Blade 2
    Terry solo
    Dragon solo
    Peni 1
    Scorp 1 jabari
    Icaris 1
    Kraven 1
    30% boost ended. Took a break.
    Reactivated medium boosts.
    Overseer 4
    Bishop solo
    Xbones 1 jabari
    Dorm 6 jabari (lol)

    Thanos team solo no revives.
    Tigra took him at 30% Jabrooni soloed last 30%.
    Got a cool screenshot to end.


    Would suggest to read some of the nodes or make a strategy. Could have been Cheaper. I was re-learning everything here lmao.
    congrats mate! Your run's cost definitely on the lower side of revives. I hope my run in the upcoming week with r4 tigra and r3 jab is gonna be decently enough
  • peixemacacopeixemacaco Member Posts: 2,824 ★★★★
    Gamer said:





    Juggernaut 7 stars 😮😮😮😮
    Sad for all other champs 🤣
  • SlayerOfGodsSlayerOfGods Member, Content Creators Posts: 524 Content Creator
    Crcrcrc said:

    I can’t wait for the “top forum members” carina challenges where they let me make a challenge that requires everyone to r5, ascend, and sig 200 iHulk

    I'm already prepared😎
  • CrcrcrcCrcrcrc Member Posts: 7,963 ★★★★★

    Crcrcrc said:

    I can’t wait for the “top forum members” carina challenges where they let me make a challenge that requires everyone to r5, ascend, and sig 200 iHulk

    I'm already prepared😎
    new favorite content creator
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,312 ★★★★★
    edited February 25

    @Hickdog27 @BigBlueOx Awesome work 🍻

    @Karatemike415 - Definitely well thought out challenges. None of the fights felt like I had to revive my way through them. Even Sassy who I was most worried about went great as I was using an unduped Antman, but max despair let me deal with that healing by simply using debuffs to turn it off.

    Thor fights turned out being these wild RNGeeezy things where like you I was one the edge of my seat hoping the stun chain continued but he was my least important avenger too. Still super fun moment vs Vision I wanted to call out.

    Now I’m hoping for a BW damage buff/synergy because she’s an absolute utility gem. I can’t get over how simple she made the hardest Korg fight in the game.

    I should add, good work back at you. Definitely enjoyed the content. A bit of a premium spend, but I accepted R4ing champs was more for my own sanity than required, and can’t wait to pick up some rare 7stars at the end.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,287 ★★★★★
    @Karatemike415

    do you think 5/5 Deep wounds is necessary for baron zemo challenge? I have baron zemo in all rarities, but only have 1 point in deep wounds (can make it two if needed). Am I gtg?


  • Hickdog27Hickdog27 Member Posts: 140 ★★

    @Karatemike415

    do you think 5/5 Deep wounds is necessary for baron zemo challenge? I have baron zemo in all rarities, but only have 1 point in deep wounds (can make it two if needed). Am I gtg?


    Obviously not Karatemike, but I don’t think 5/5 is required. It’s nice to have, just like the recoil tree, to speed up fights but the bleeds are still indefinite regardless of the number of points you have in DW. It’ll just require you to stay alive a bit longer.

    With that said, it’s a great mastery, so I’d definitely recommend adding some points in the future.
  • DarkGuardianDarkGuardian Member Posts: 197 ★★
    I believe this question was asked before but , which Hawkeye rarity is better? Duped 6* or 7* unduped?
  • A_FungiA_Fungi Member Posts: 999 ★★★★

    I believe this question was asked before but , which Hawkeye rarity is better? Duped 6* or 7* unduped?

    It probably depends on what you want to do with Hawkeye.

    There are a lot of resources that need to be dumped into 6 stars to complete this (R3 min)

    Hawkeye will lose damage if he isn't duped and a 7 but you will save loads of resources if your 6* is only R1
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 7,663 Guardian
    edited February 26

    I believe this question was asked before but , which Hawkeye rarity is better? Duped 6* or 7* unduped?

    6* duped. My unleveled, duped 6* r1 does as much bleed damage as my unduped 7* r2 Hawkeye. The bleeds are going to be the majority of his damage
  • JT_SupremeJT_Supreme Member Posts: 1,223 ★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    I believe this question was asked before but , which Hawkeye rarity is better? Duped 6* or 7* unduped?

    6* duped. My unleveled, duped 6* r1 does as much bleed damage as my unduped 7* r2 Hawkeye. The bleeds are going to be the majority of his damage
    Why did you r2 unduped Hawkeye?
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 7,663 Guardian

    Pikolu said:

    I believe this question was asked before but , which Hawkeye rarity is better? Duped 6* or 7* unduped?

    6* duped. My unleveled, duped 6* r1 does as much bleed damage as my unduped 7* r2 Hawkeye. The bleeds are going to be the majority of his damage
    Why did you r2 unduped Hawkeye?
    For the lulz. My 7* skill roster was really bad last J4 and I hoped I would have duped him soon after then 🤣

    He was actually really good for a couple metas of BGs. Not having to bait specials is very nice.
  • HassamaMamaHassamaMama Member Posts: 247 ★★
    Polygon said:

    Milan1405 said:

    ChriissR said:

    His challenges were never even that bad. People really just needed someone to complain about. Fintech definitely has the hardest challenges. People really forget how awful Carinas Vol 1 & 2 were 😂

    However, I disagree with design philosophy of his other challenge which requires a highly ranked Zemo. I R5ed and ascended my zemo so hopefully it shouldn't be too bad for me if I skill up with him. But I really don't like challenges that force you to use 1 singular champion, because if you don't like playing them (which is completely understandable in a game with 200+ champions) is it really fair to ask someone to rank them up highly and possibly ascend them to do a challenge that they will do worse at anyway because they don't even like playing them?

    For example, I don't really like playing antman or black widow, so I'll just use them where absolutely necessary and then use iron man, thor and hawkeye for all other possible fights, and I really enjoy playing all of them. That seems fair enough to me. But I don't get KarateMike's reasoning that: "allowing players to bring a team of this champion of x other champion(s) wouldn't fit the theme of carina challenges". Yes, they have always been specific, but I do think there is such a thing as 'too specific'. I really don't see anything wrong with a challenge saying use either a team containing only baron zemo or a team containing some other specific champion.


    Lagacy, you smashed it out the park though mate.
    I agree with you and I think Mike completely missed the mark with his Zemo objective because of how it forces you to invest in one single champ. If it was at least a good champ like Tigra, it wouldn’t be as bad. But most people with common sense would r5 a Kate, Nick, Valkyrie,Aegon (for Necro), Stealthy for (BGs) before a champ that isn’t even close to being the best at anything. Hell, I’d even rank 5 my 6* korg before zemo.

    We get it, the Zemo propaganda has been an ongoing thing, but just because you enjoy the champ, doesnt mean it should be imposed on us. Let us at least be able to use another champ. I’m pretty sure MSDs was high ranked and he still used a lot of revives doing the challenge

    Also, I seriously think people are overstating how easy it is to get r4 mats. I’m valiant and i still need to buy them from BGs shop because I have a lot of champs I need to rank.

    We could’ve at least had r4 mats in the challenges to offset the mandatory ranking of Zemo
    “Zemo propaganda”…please, enlighten me. Tell me how a champ that:

    1. Cleanses debuffs
    2. When his Cleanse charges run out he roots them.
    3. When he roots them he inflicts an indefinite Bleed debuff with every hit.
    4. When he roots them he inflicts an indefinite passive Decelerate, reducing ability accuracy of Evade and Unstoppable by 50%. 2x means 100%.
    5. When he roots them he reduces their Combat Power Rate and increases his own by 40%.
    6. When he roots them his sp1 inflicts 10 indefinite Bleed debuffs.
    7. Oh AND the sp1 always applies an indefinite 25% Disorient passive which also stacks up to 4x (100%).
    7. His sp2 inflicts root.
    8. If the defender is immune to whatever debuff he tries to inflict (including Parry Stun), his next hit triples in attack rating due to a Fury.
    9. His sig ability increases crit damage rating and crit rating.
    10. His self synergy increases the potency of his bleeds by 50%, per Zemo. 200% more potency with a full team.

    Isn’t good. I’ll wait.

    Mike used 13 revives on his Zemo run. On his free to play account, MSD used 10. Check your facts.

    Just because you don’t understand a champ and refuse to learn, doesn’t mean they aren’t one of the most powerful champs in the game, especially in content they’re designed for like Gauntlet. “Propaganda”…don’t talk if you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Rank up Zemo because he’s a ridiculously good champ, not because he’s required for the challenge. He’s required for the challenge because he’s a ridiculously good champ.
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,505 ★★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    Pikolu said:

    I believe this question was asked before but , which Hawkeye rarity is better? Duped 6* or 7* unduped?

    6* duped. My unleveled, duped 6* r1 does as much bleed damage as my unduped 7* r2 Hawkeye. The bleeds are going to be the majority of his damage
    Why did you r2 unduped Hawkeye?
    For the lulz. My 7* skill roster was really bad last J4 and I hoped I would have duped him soon after then 🤣

    He was actually really good for a couple metas of BGs. Not having to bait specials is very nice.
    So you mean to tell me the only 7 star I have across all of the avengers and Mojo is actually WORSE than the 6 star? These Carina challenges really are an RNG fest lol
  • jcphillips7jcphillips7 Member Posts: 1,425 ★★★★
    I'm wondering what this challenge will cost me with a team of 4 Zemos (6r5, 5, 4, 3) compared to a team of 5 Zemos with the 6r5 ascended.

    I feel it could be substantial enough I should probably wait for the 2*
  • Milan1405Milan1405 Member Posts: 952 ★★★★

    Polygon said:

    Milan1405 said:

    ChriissR said:

    His challenges were never even that bad. People really just needed someone to complain about. Fintech definitely has the hardest challenges. People really forget how awful Carinas Vol 1 & 2 were 😂

    However, I disagree with design philosophy of his other challenge which requires a highly ranked Zemo. I R5ed and ascended my zemo so hopefully it shouldn't be too bad for me if I skill up with him. But I really don't like challenges that force you to use 1 singular champion, because if you don't like playing them (which is completely understandable in a game with 200+ champions) is it really fair to ask someone to rank them up highly and possibly ascend them to do a challenge that they will do worse at anyway because they don't even like playing them?

    For example, I don't really like playing antman or black widow, so I'll just use them where absolutely necessary and then use iron man, thor and hawkeye for all other possible fights, and I really enjoy playing all of them. That seems fair enough to me. But I don't get KarateMike's reasoning that: "allowing players to bring a team of this champion of x other champion(s) wouldn't fit the theme of carina challenges". Yes, they have always been specific, but I do think there is such a thing as 'too specific'. I really don't see anything wrong with a challenge saying use either a team containing only baron zemo or a team containing some other specific champion.


    Lagacy, you smashed it out the park though mate.
    I agree with you and I think Mike completely missed the mark with his Zemo objective because of how it forces you to invest in one single champ. If it was at least a good champ like Tigra, it wouldn’t be as bad. But most people with common sense would r5 a Kate, Nick, Valkyrie,Aegon (for Necro), Stealthy for (BGs) before a champ that isn’t even close to being the best at anything. Hell, I’d even rank 5 my 6* korg before zemo.

    We get it, the Zemo propaganda has been an ongoing thing, but just because you enjoy the champ, doesnt mean it should be imposed on us. Let us at least be able to use another champ. I’m pretty sure MSDs was high ranked and he still used a lot of revives doing the challenge

    Also, I seriously think people are overstating how easy it is to get r4 mats. I’m valiant and i still need to buy them from BGs shop because I have a lot of champs I need to rank.

    We could’ve at least had r4 mats in the challenges to offset the mandatory ranking of Zemo
    “Zemo propaganda”…please, enlighten me. Tell me how a champ that:

    1. Cleanses debuffs
    2. When his Cleanse charges run out he roots them.
    3. When he roots them he inflicts an indefinite Bleed debuff with every hit.
    4. When he roots them he inflicts an indefinite passive Decelerate, reducing ability accuracy of Evade and Unstoppable by 50%. 2x means 100%.
    5. When he roots them he reduces their Combat Power Rate and increases his own by 40%.
    6. When he roots them his sp1 inflicts 10 indefinite Bleed debuffs.
    7. Oh AND the sp1 always applies an indefinite 25% Disorient passive which also stacks up to 4x (100%).
    7. His sp2 inflicts root.
    8. If the defender is immune to whatever debuff he tries to inflict (including Parry Stun), his next hit triples in attack rating due to a Fury.
    9. His sig ability increases crit damage rating and crit rating.
    10. His self synergy increases the potency of his bleeds by 50%, per Zemo. 200% more potency with a full team.

    Isn’t good. I’ll wait.

    Mike used 13 revives on his Zemo run. On his free to play account, MSD used 10. Check your facts.

    Just because you don’t understand a champ and refuse to learn, doesn’t mean they aren’t one of the most powerful champs in the game, especially in content they’re designed for like Gauntlet. “Propaganda”…don’t talk if you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Rank up Zemo because he’s a ridiculously good champ, not because he’s required for the challenge. He’s required for the challenge because he’s a ridiculously good champ.
    I like zemo, he's a well made champion. The handling of the root nerf did leave a sour taste in people's mouths but he is still very solid. However, I don't think people should be forced to use and rank up a 6 star to a high level for a challenge. I understand why Mike designed it that way, but personally that style isn't for me. I really enjoy the planning and team-building aspect of a challenge so I'm not a fan of content which is very specific and strict champion wise.

    That being said, I do at least think Mike's challenge difficulty is fair. Tough but doable which is how a challenge should be. But Fintech's challenges I really do not like. I don't want to have to rank up my 6star Mojo just because I couldn't pull a 7 star one and I just dislike his animations, and the fights are much harder. Like Mojo vs havok, and the modok fight sounds terrible.
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  • Jack2634Jack2634 Member Posts: 920 ★★★






    i completed it today ! Rewarded myself with a duped sparky after another 40 revives and 2 hours of suffering. Tigra is rank 4 sig 200 and jab rank 3 sig 60. I got wong from basic 7 star . titan one, i know havok is not bad but i was hoping that i got someone else .... so yeah, i am not happy about him that much. But i am happy enough with wong and sparky - my guy ever since 2018
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 5,087 ★★★★★

    Polygon said:

    Milan1405 said:

    ChriissR said:

    His challenges were never even that bad. People really just needed someone to complain about. Fintech definitely has the hardest challenges. People really forget how awful Carinas Vol 1 & 2 were 😂

    However, I disagree with design philosophy of his other challenge which requires a highly ranked Zemo. I R5ed and ascended my zemo so hopefully it shouldn't be too bad for me if I skill up with him. But I really don't like challenges that force you to use 1 singular champion, because if you don't like playing them (which is completely understandable in a game with 200+ champions) is it really fair to ask someone to rank them up highly and possibly ascend them to do a challenge that they will do worse at anyway because they don't even like playing them?

    For example, I don't really like playing antman or black widow, so I'll just use them where absolutely necessary and then use iron man, thor and hawkeye for all other possible fights, and I really enjoy playing all of them. That seems fair enough to me. But I don't get KarateMike's reasoning that: "allowing players to bring a team of this champion of x other champion(s) wouldn't fit the theme of carina challenges". Yes, they have always been specific, but I do think there is such a thing as 'too specific'. I really don't see anything wrong with a challenge saying use either a team containing only baron zemo or a team containing some other specific champion.


    Lagacy, you smashed it out the park though mate.
    I agree with you and I think Mike completely missed the mark with his Zemo objective because of how it forces you to invest in one single champ. If it was at least a good champ like Tigra, it wouldn’t be as bad. But most people with common sense would r5 a Kate, Nick, Valkyrie,Aegon (for Necro), Stealthy for (BGs) before a champ that isn’t even close to being the best at anything. Hell, I’d even rank 5 my 6* korg before zemo.

    We get it, the Zemo propaganda has been an ongoing thing, but just because you enjoy the champ, doesnt mean it should be imposed on us. Let us at least be able to use another champ. I’m pretty sure MSDs was high ranked and he still used a lot of revives doing the challenge

    Also, I seriously think people are overstating how easy it is to get r4 mats. I’m valiant and i still need to buy them from BGs shop because I have a lot of champs I need to rank.

    We could’ve at least had r4 mats in the challenges to offset the mandatory ranking of Zemo
    “Zemo propaganda”…please, enlighten me. Tell me how a champ that:

    1. Cleanses debuffs
    2. When his Cleanse charges run out he roots them.
    3. When he roots them he inflicts an indefinite Bleed debuff with every hit.
    4. When he roots them he inflicts an indefinite passive Decelerate, reducing ability accuracy of Evade and Unstoppable by 50%. 2x means 100%.
    5. When he roots them he reduces their Combat Power Rate and increases his own by 40%.
    6. When he roots them his sp1 inflicts 10 indefinite Bleed debuffs.
    7. Oh AND the sp1 always applies an indefinite 25% Disorient passive which also stacks up to 4x (100%).
    7. His sp2 inflicts root.
    8. If the defender is immune to whatever debuff he tries to inflict (including Parry Stun), his next hit triples in attack rating due to a Fury.
    9. His sig ability increases crit damage rating and crit rating.
    10. His self synergy increases the potency of his bleeds by 50%, per Zemo. 200% more potency with a full team.

    Isn’t good. I’ll wait.

    Mike used 13 revives on his Zemo run. On his free to play account, MSD used 10. Check your facts.

    Just because you don’t understand a champ and refuse to learn, doesn’t mean they aren’t one of the most powerful champs in the game, especially in content they’re designed for like Gauntlet. “Propaganda”…don’t talk if you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Rank up Zemo because he’s a ridiculously good champ, not because he’s required for the challenge. He’s required for the challenge because he’s a ridiculously good champ.
    Bro trying to enforce Zemo on people who don't like him. Leave MSD be, he is never an option to compare the masses.
    Nagase a top player, did his run with r3 Zemo and 5*Zemo. He is a massive whale too, with no shortage of resources and he chose not to upgrade. He did not complain one bit, this is what I saw. Which is exactly what I'm going to do. It's a single challenge and I'll use items instead of upgrading.

    Here's the flip side of the coin you are tossing.
    The complains are not from people who alredy like and have him R5 ascended, the complains are from people who don't like or want to upgrade zemo and are given no option to do 1 hard challange with 1 champ exclusively.
    ...

    Here you are proving the propoganda right, funny. It's 1 single champ, the defenders of Zemo train is what makes all this more annoying, not the champ himself. You'll never seen anyone overhyping or defending a mojo or a tigra like this. Zemo toxicity can be compared to what Elsa and moleGod people did at one time. Were they wrong? No. Were they annoying, you bet they were.

    I like the challanges. Got somthing to plan after necro. Rewards are not the level they should be, but it is what it is. People like to do things their way. Gauntlet is one the Best fun Quest in the game. Apart from 1-2 specific fights, 80% of EOP is fun too. Avengers challange is good, fun underrated champs with thier lesser known abilities unlike your hyper duper mega super titan god uber tier Zemo.
  • Milan1405Milan1405 Member Posts: 952 ★★★★

    Polygon said:

    Milan1405 said:

    ChriissR said:

    His challenges were never even that bad. People really just needed someone to complain about. Fintech definitely has the hardest challenges. People really forget how awful Carinas Vol 1 & 2 were 😂

    However, I disagree with design philosophy of his other challenge which requires a highly ranked Zemo. I R5ed and ascended my zemo so hopefully it shouldn't be too bad for me if I skill up with him. But I really don't like challenges that force you to use 1 singular champion, because if you don't like playing them (which is completely understandable in a game with 200+ champions) is it really fair to ask someone to rank them up highly and possibly ascend them to do a challenge that they will do worse at anyway because they don't even like playing them?

    For example, I don't really like playing antman or black widow, so I'll just use them where absolutely necessary and then use iron man, thor and hawkeye for all other possible fights, and I really enjoy playing all of them. That seems fair enough to me. But I don't get KarateMike's reasoning that: "allowing players to bring a team of this champion of x other champion(s) wouldn't fit the theme of carina challenges". Yes, they have always been specific, but I do think there is such a thing as 'too specific'. I really don't see anything wrong with a challenge saying use either a team containing only baron zemo or a team containing some other specific champion.


    Lagacy, you smashed it out the park though mate.
    I agree with you and I think Mike completely missed the mark with his Zemo objective because of how it forces you to invest in one single champ. If it was at least a good champ like Tigra, it wouldn’t be as bad. But most people with common sense would r5 a Kate, Nick, Valkyrie,Aegon (for Necro), Stealthy for (BGs) before a champ that isn’t even close to being the best at anything. Hell, I’d even rank 5 my 6* korg before zemo.

    We get it, the Zemo propaganda has been an ongoing thing, but just because you enjoy the champ, doesnt mean it should be imposed on us. Let us at least be able to use another champ. I’m pretty sure MSDs was high ranked and he still used a lot of revives doing the challenge

    Also, I seriously think people are overstating how easy it is to get r4 mats. I’m valiant and i still need to buy them from BGs shop because I have a lot of champs I need to rank.

    We could’ve at least had r4 mats in the challenges to offset the mandatory ranking of Zemo
    “Zemo propaganda”…please, enlighten me. Tell me how a champ that:

    1. Cleanses debuffs
    2. When his Cleanse charges run out he roots them.
    3. When he roots them he inflicts an indefinite Bleed debuff with every hit.
    4. When he roots them he inflicts an indefinite passive Decelerate, reducing ability accuracy of Evade and Unstoppable by 50%. 2x means 100%.
    5. When he roots them he reduces their Combat Power Rate and increases his own by 40%.
    6. When he roots them his sp1 inflicts 10 indefinite Bleed debuffs.
    7. Oh AND the sp1 always applies an indefinite 25% Disorient passive which also stacks up to 4x (100%).
    7. His sp2 inflicts root.
    8. If the defender is immune to whatever debuff he tries to inflict (including Parry Stun), his next hit triples in attack rating due to a Fury.
    9. His sig ability increases crit damage rating and crit rating.
    10. His self synergy increases the potency of his bleeds by 50%, per Zemo. 200% more potency with a full team.

    Isn’t good. I’ll wait.

    Mike used 13 revives on his Zemo run. On his free to play account, MSD used 10. Check your facts.

    Just because you don’t understand a champ and refuse to learn, doesn’t mean they aren’t one of the most powerful champs in the game, especially in content they’re designed for like Gauntlet. “Propaganda”…don’t talk if you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Rank up Zemo because he’s a ridiculously good champ, not because he’s required for the challenge. He’s required for the challenge because he’s a ridiculously good champ.
    Bro trying to enforce Zemo on people who don't like him. Leave MSD be, he is never an option to compare the masses.
    Nagase a top player, did his run with r3 Zemo and 5*Zemo. He is a massive whale too, with no shortage of resources and he chose not to upgrade. He did not complain one bit, this is what I saw. Which is exactly what I'm going to do. It's a single challenge and I'll use items instead of upgrading.

    Here's the flip side of the coin you are tossing.
    The complains are not from people who alredy like and have him R5 ascended, the complains are from people who don't like or want to upgrade zemo and are given no option to do 1 hard challange with 1 champ exclusively.
    ...

    Here you are proving the propoganda right, funny. It's 1 single champ, the defenders of Zemo train is what makes all this more annoying, not the champ himself. You'll never seen anyone overhyping or defending a mojo or a tigra like this. Zemo toxicity can be compared to what Elsa and moleGod people did at one time. Were they wrong? No. Were they annoying, you bet they were.

    I like the challanges. Got somthing to plan after necro. Rewards are not the level they should be, but it is what it is. People like to do things their way. Gauntlet is one the Best fun Quest in the game. Apart from 1-2 specific fights, 80% of EOP is fun too. Avengers challange is good, fun underrated champs with thier lesser known abilities unlike your hyper duper mega super titan god uber tier Zemo.
    EOP ain't fun with Mojo, friend.
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