The Worst 7* In the Basic Pool

My vote goes to VtD. The damage he does is truly reminiscent of being slapped with a tongue.

Who could be a worse 7* pull than this blob of black marshmallow?

Comments

G-Hun-Gear

The Saga Sig stones can be used on him, so if you awaken him once, there’s already 10 more sigs in the current Magic Heist Event… 😂

SammyDe

VTD is pretty good for a small account and Hawkeye is also handy with his 0.75 power control.
I don’t have enough 7*s to not like any of them and you can always find ways to use a champ.
As your roster gets bigger, there will be less room for fringe champs to be used. Spare a thought for many summoners who don’t have a 7* yet, they will gladly take a VTD off you if they could.

IvarTheBoneless

Yeahhh no. I saw r2 jabari do some amazing things this aw season, the damage is real. She ends bg matches in less than a minute with just a sp2 if they bleed.

About thing: the only difficult thing is his rock stacks. Manage that and he's just a tanky champ with nothing special. Objectively, you can't put jabari below thing just because you don't like her.

DrZola

Hawkeye is a synergy keystone. There are at last count 28 different synergies involving him, and some are quite useful.

One example is his synergy with Nick, which gives Hawkeye poison immunity from non-mutant champs. I routinely use this for the Skill lane in EQ when there’s an Abom or iBom on a lane. His admantium arrows synergy with WeaponX removes all rock stacks with arrow strikes. He’s also got a couple of nice synergies with Herc and Tigra.

A lot of his synergies are with useful champs. He’s a great axis around which to build a team.

So…not the worst in my opinion. Not even close.

Dr. Zola

Milan1405

100% doc. I love Hawkeye - even took him into abyss for testing and he performed excellently. Shame he does require so many synergies tho. Like imagine if he could have the tigra/wiccan synergy in his kit and covert his bleeds to poisons or ruptures if opponent was immune. It's a shame he doesn't have any defensive value otherwise he would be a sure candidate for my next skill R2.

DrZola

Yep! I think they could give him a feature like WS where he’s able to hold block and change his arrow debuffs. Would be a nice feature as well to have him convert debuffs to passives if he stacks a certain number of them (like Nick or something like Punisher with Open Wounds).

He doesn’t need that much.

Dr. Zola

Milan1405

Yes that's a great idea. They should have you on the buff program instead. Or even a prefight to select which arrow debuff to use kind of like scorpion. Also would really like it if his immunity synergies could be incorporated into his base kit, but I guess that would be asking too much lol.

StuntzTheCMMKid

The incursion nodes gives any and every champ you use, a buff. So every champ is a monster in incursions 😂

DrZola

Me on the buff program 😂

It would be Doc Strange, Iron Fist, OGDD, OGCap, Dorm and OGCM day one. Pretty sure that won’t happen!

Dr. Zola

Milan1405

Man OG cap deserves a buff, as does his ww2 counterpart. He is such an iconic champ and should be good as he was one of the faces of the MCU for 10 years. I really liked the iron man buff, and hulk is a monster now, so hopefully the rest of the avengers get some love too.

Polygon

60s for a r2 isn’t that fast though, theres 6 stars that finish fights in 40ish seconds. If i took a champ to rank 2 for offensive purposes and they couldn’t finish a BGs in sub 60s id be dissappointed. My black cat can finish some fights in near 30s. Mantis is also a nuke . Shang not only could do those fights you mentioned in much faster time than Jabari, but he also has cleanse. Hell, even Moondragon would probably finish fights faster than Jabari.

JMC2007JR

You're crazy saying VTD and IMIW are bad. No one has mentioned spider man. He's horrible and he kinda needs that awakened ability. I'd take VTD and IMIW any day.

Wong_99

Yeah, in over 200 revives

Milan1405

Bro what? I would GLADLY trade my sig 40 venom the duck for a sig 40 spiderman. BMCG and other youtubers have some really impressive spiderman videos. Not to mention he's a damn sight better than VTD in battlegrounds as he is both a better attacker and defender.

o_o

Dude hasn't a clue how Spidey works. Honestly this may go down as the silliest thing anyone says on the forums today

Polygon

Imiw is slept on as a defender

Wicket329

As somebody who is at least at your level, I’m gonna strongly disagree with you. My r2 Jabari gets used regularly, and she’s a phenomenal champ. I used her all throughout the last two AW seasons, her damage output and cleanse utility are just too good.

I’ve said it to you before that the dupe is rough. In my opinion, she doesn’t really benefit enough from it to feel good about those silver stars. But, as has already been pointed out to you here and in many, many other places, she’s still a good champ and if you’d just stop wanting to be mad about pulling her, you might actually realize that.

Milan1405

Agreed. Jabari is a solid champion AND she saves you having to rank up your 6 star version to do Fintech's challenge. I would be very happy if I pulled her.

StuntzTheCMMKid

The post is about the BASIC pool..not the Titan. You're gonna stop this Jabari slander 😂 Save your tears for another day

StuntzTheCMMKid

They're still sore from getting a champ they don't know how to use 😂

ItsClobberinTime

I've been placing 7* unawakened Thing on defense and he gets clapped in under 45 secs always. He's terrible without sig 200 and not tanky at all.

She's not underperforming, do you even know how to use her? Her damage is crazy man I really don't think you know much about her.

https://youtu.be/v0AG1opgYgY?si=GsWMVx7YaBk7vZ4x
The fact that you're even suggesting she's underperforming when her damage is nuts and she just melts anything that isn't bleed immune after a single sp2 is kinda crazy.

ItsClobberinTime

How many revives? 200? Yeah no, not a valid argument 😂

Polygon

Crazy how you made a thread where almost everyone that pulled her on it told you they weren’t happy to pull her, now you’re making an assumption that because one isn’t happy with the pull they got that they don’t know how to use her? Let me see you explore all of Necro and Carinas just to get both her and her dupe and still pretend like she’s anywhere close to being a top 10 skill champ

ItsClobberinTime

Nobody's saying she's top 10, they're just telling you she's not the worst which is objectively correct.

IvarTheBoneless

Thats why I said LESS than a minute. Most fights will be around 40ish seconds. Also just because other champs are better doesn't mean she's not good.

Polygon

I dont think shes bad per say, but the Titan crystal is the most rare crystal in the game and to pull her from there after putting countless preprep and time in Necro. It would be different if it was from a basic pool. @captain_rogers explained this well

Fyi your video is showing her best matchup, show an actual matchup outside of class advantage like Rintrah, Hulkling, Fury, IMIW, Sasquatch, Korg, or Fury all of which I can take with 47k minimum and some 50k+ with Black Cat.

Even rocket raccoon can do a fight fast, doesnt necessarily mean everyone is gonna run her. What matters is how many matchups do they work in where they can get a good score

Wicket329

1) Jessica Jones doesn’t have anything in her kit that ramps Jabari, so it’s not her best matchup. Jabari does shut down JJ though, making her one of the best counters to an otherwise extremely tricky defender.

2) You say not to look at Jabari’s best matchups, then compare her to Black Cat’s best matchups. Of course Black Cat will do better in those fights, those are champions with defensive abilities that Black Cat’s sabotage feeds on.

3) Jabari’s best matchups are defenders who place debuffs on her like Abom/iBom, Ant Man, Anti-Venom, etc. because they ramp her up to her hunt faster. Her and Black Cat have some overlap in this regard, but each have their own matchups they excel at compared to the other.

ItsClobberinTime

Again, nobody in this thread is saying she's top 10, there are a lot of matchups she can't do too well and you named few. What we're saying is that she's not the worst in the Titan regardless of how many times you pulled her, she's not crazy good, she's not insane but she's decent. I understand the awakening was frustrating and I'd be extremely annoyed too but that doesn't change the fact that she's not the worst.

ItsClobberinTime

Thanks for giving me a little bit of hope... 🤣

StuntzTheCMMKid

No. What's crazy is how you're STILL crying about pulling an unwanted champ from the Titan crystal. And many who got her weren't happy because they wanted somebody else, NOT because they didn't feel like she's a good champ. Unlike you. You keep complaining and crying, crying and complaining about her, even on a post that wasn't about that. And based on many of the comments here and in other places, majority of players actually like Jabari Panther lol.

Stop crying and get over it.

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