Misleading daily magic heist timer

Hi kabam,

Just wanted to say that the timer on the daily (24hr) challenge is EXTREMELY misleading. When you look at the timer, and compare it to others similar, it looks like you have 21 days to complete ALL the challenges.

I, as well as others in my alliance, assumed that a new challenge would appear daily, with a new timer. So (foolishly perhaps) we decided to let them build up and then do them all over the weekend. When we checked on the weekend, there was no additional challenges, so we completed the challenge, and only then did it reveal the 24hr countdown for the challenge refresh.

Please can this be amended so it simply says 24hrs for the time, and then the challenge will auto reset , rather than have 21 days on it (now 16).

Having seen it so late, some in the alliance, we can only get 32 pts and will miss out on on the rk 4-5 gem simply due to misunderstanding and assuming that the timer was accurate. When actually it wasn’t.

A challenge that has the possibility to reset every 24 hours, should have a 24 hr timer to inform users that they need to complete every 24 hrs. If there’s any way to add any bonus challenge points to make up for this that would be amazing. But we understand that you may not feel it’s warranted or it may not be possible.

Thanks

Comments

NoirSoirée

Hey @Kabam Miike just wondering if a QoL change is possible that enables auto claim (like how the morbius objectives/battle pass type events did) so that we don't have to specially go into the tabs to claim once completed ... as forgetting to claim results it not refreshing after 24 hours even if you actually completed the objective for the previous day.

Supersha7

That’s a really good additional point, noir. Thanks for adding that in.

Milan1405

Yes 100% agree, also my challenges glitch sometimes so I have to claim it twice which is weird (first time doesn't count).

ahmynuts

It'll be in the next sigil update with a $2 price increase

Crine60

I have been doing this daily so am not directly affected by this but the regular daily objectives stack multiple days and the double track events more recently have been stacking 2 days I believe so it isn't crazy to think a daily arena objective might be able to be done a day or 2 after it became active without missing the subsequent day or 2 as well. The only difference that immediately comes to mind is that these objectives are the same every day and the regular daily objectives and double tracks are usually (always?) different from the next/previous day.

Buttehrs

If you've only missed one set of objectives your still good. There's a grace day of 1 built in. It's a 21 day event and there's 20 sets of objectives.

PT_99

I know you are forum troll with a private profile on top of that but my point is, if there's a 24hour time based objective then why it's expiration is labelled as 20days instead?

There's a lot of stuff going in game from past month so ofc at first glance players will delay the objectives with 20 days grace period to do other time-sensitive quests like WOW.

Greekhit

That images and the reasoning you provide that you have to do something daily, aren't adding anything important that players who missed the points didn't knew.
Many players got confused and thought these objectives weren't mandatory to do on day one, because regular DAILY objectives stack up, and you can skip days accumulate some and do them another day.
So many players assumed those objectives would stack and work in a similar way.
I myself assumed it would work the same way, but because I like to clear content on day one, to avoid content accumulation, did them as they dropped.
Next day I realised from other unlucky summoners that they didn't stacked, and they just refresh.
I haven't missed a point (yet 😂), but I'm not belittling others for not figuring out how these objectives work.
If it was a very small number of players who were affected by that misconception, then it would probably be their fault, but since that number is much bigger, then probably it's Kabam's fault for poorly communicating the requirements.
Since there is only one grace day, they should explicitly have warned the players that they MUST do the objectives EVERY SINGLE DAY of the event, and that the objectives DO NOT STACK like other daily objectives 🤷

shield311

I'm not paragon so i can only go for the 3-4 rankup gem, if i miss one day's objective will i miss out of the 3-4 rank up gem?? I do not have my device for 3-4 days so i think this is gonna be unfortunate ;-;

MrSakuragi

The 3-4 gem is on the milestone with 20 points so you need to get 20 of the 21 objectives.

1 day to miss only, same as paragon+ and the last milestone

BringPopcorn

Is THE valiant calling me a troll rofl?
The event lasts 20 days, the objectives to PARTICIPATE on the event are DAILY...
Which means that in order to score points you have to do objectives every day. Its really not that hard to understand.
See you still don't get it because you even repeat the mistake.. saying "ofc at first glance players will delay the objectives with 20 days grace period to do other time-sensitive quests like WOW"...THE EVENT is 20 days the OBJECTIVE is DAILY.
And yeah delay time sensitive because of WoW... Lol... Its 2 arena matches with 7*...

BringPopcorn

So if I was to tell you that you have to do something DAILY for 20 days... Do I need to tell you, you have to do it on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday and so on until we fill out the 20 days?...

IvarTheBoneless

If you can't understand how seeing a timer with 20days on it can confuse people, even tho the objective tab says daily, then I will bring my own popcorn to watch you argue an uphill battle.

Please just put yourself in the perspective of someone else, without thinking about your own perspective. It's also a useful life skill.

BringPopcorn

Every event has a time. Winter of Woe has a 57 day timer at the moment...Can someone claim "Oh man I was saving it for my vacation to do it..."?
Every solo and alliance event has a timer, its on the player to read the description of the event.
I should put myself in the perspective of people who are wrong? For what? To try to find excuses and not be accountable for own mistakes? Beg for changes or a way to earn those points again? No thank you?

PT_99

Why can't you understand this simple thing, here I'll try to break it up in little crumbs.

"Kabam makes event, event has milestones, milestones get completed by daily objectives, those objective has 20 DAYS timer on it instead of 24 HOUR, players assume they have 20days window and objectives will STACK, they didn't, players missed on 1-2 days of objectives."

Phew, hope it went through. 😮‍💨

BringPopcorn

Maybe and just maybe cause the objective.doesn't have a 20 day timer?.. the EVENT, has a 20 DAYS timer? and it clearly says complete DAILY objectives to earn points?
If its based on assumption, its not really misleading is it?
Lol..

Bendy

U wont get through to them about the 20 days is just for the event not the actual daily objectives that has the word special daily and says daily everywhere on the event

Milan1405

I think we are going in circles here. The timer for the daily objectives was incorrect. Some people believed the incorrect timer and didn't do the arena fights in time because of this. Other people ignored the timer and did them as soon as they appeared. It's as simple as that.

Now the only question is whether you sympathise with those players who planned according to a timer displaying misleading information. Personally, I do, even though I didn't lose out on any rewards myself. I do think it's unreasonable for Kabam to expect players to ignore that timer and simply assume that it was wrong.

BringPopcorn

The issue is accountability, is it really misleading?
No its not, it was a player error, blaming mistakes on someone else.

Graves_3

Objective did have a 20d timer as also the event. Allow me to present exhibit A👇

I did do all objectives because I planned stuff out. But I do understand how this confused some people. The message was not very clear.

Milan1405

Exactly! What does that mean? Well, it means that summoners have 20 days, 18 hours and 37 minutes left to complete that objective before it disappears/expires.

It's NOTHING to do with accountability/player error as people are suggesting, it's simply a mistake from Kabam. If you are one of the players that doesn't feel that this was unfair for the players who planned to do this event later on, within that 20 day timeframe, then you either lack basic comprehension skills, or are just being plain selfish.

Once again, I looked at the forums and deduced the timer was incorrect from the post. But I ABSOLUTELY understand and sympathise with where the OP and many other players are coming from.

Bendy

But it says next objective in ur case says 18 hours on that screenshot if u dont see that then u wont be getting another if its under something daily dont bother looking at the timer of the event from that as if theres a slot which in this case its only 2 if u dont finish either u wont get another

Graves_3

In hindsight you may appear to be right. But you will see the next objective timer only after you have done the first objective. What if somebody didn’t do any objective and only realized that they don’t stack after couple of days.

Bendy

If u dont see it then u should know in ur mind like oh i gotta do it to see when next appears since if u dont for me is oh i wont get another if i didnt do it today

Bendy

Like for me its always been if u see slots that can be new objectives u can wait if they have only 2 slots like double track and u didnt do that set but waited till next reset i missed a day and thats on me as i either forgot or didnt do what they wanted in game and again thats more on me than kabam as its a daily reset

Milan1405

Yes, but the timer implies that these objectives do stack, especially to the normal player. We're discussing this on the mcoc forum which on average, has players with much higher knowledge, skill and experience than players who do not use the forums. So whilst we might know that, other players will rely solely on the in game timer.

Drago_von_Drago

This “Daily” tab can hold up to 3 “daily” objectives and there is no indication of how many it might hold before it caps out.

There have been other recent events that have had “daily” objectives that stacked for two days.

This event reverts to the older, less player friendly format of not stacking at all. I honestly doubt there is any level of communication that could have prevented the issue. The timer on the daily objective was going to confuse people no matter what. The best they could have done is either use the double track format players are already familiar with that clearly only holds two days worth or build in a couple extra days of slack to give people time to figure it out. I’d be very disappointed if I missed a top-tier reward like this because of a confusing timer issue.

koz8208

My issue with this is that there are rarely events where you have to complete objectives every day in order to get the top rewards. So now you have this type of event, and you make the top reward so valuable? If you are planning to do that you should make every effort possible to ensure people will be aware of how the event works. Having it buried in the description along with other events is not good enough. If you care about people 'logging in every day' then make the objective be to log in. I really hope something is done to let people catch up (even using money) because this is just very poor planning.

Josh2507

An auto claim for these objectives would be nice, I did arena earlier but forgot to claim. Yes I know, my fault…

But there isn’t the usual red notification bubble for these when they’re ready to claim.

Fit_Fun9329

I still feel fooled and sad