Why am I taking damage against Dani?

Dirty_DozzDirty_Dozz Member Posts: 475 ★★★
edited March 20 in General Discussion
Trying to do WoW with Stryfe, and I keep randomly taking damage from mediums and heavies. Not after time, but only after she gains an Illusion charge. I know you take damage when you prevent or remove one of her abilities, but the only thing mediums and heavies prevent is evade, which she can't do. I'd post a video, but can't figure out how.

Is this just not a Stryfe-able fight?

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  • NightheartNightheart Member Posts: 2,111 ★★★★
    It happened to me when I was using Magik and Domino as well
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  • ribsandbbqbeef69ribsandbbqbeef69 Member Posts: 17 ★
    I don’t think it’s an intended effect but this is it.
    Stryfe removes and reapplies the passive shock with his psionic attacks and it’s triggering this node. The node was no doubt meant to affect Dani’s prowess’s but it’s affecting stryfe’s shock too.

    It also effects iceman’s frostbites when removing them with a heavy.

  • Wicket329Wicket329 Member Posts: 3,362 ★★★★★
    Nightheart said:

    It happened to me when I was using Magik and Domino as well

    Domino is triggering Just Desserts whenever an ability fails to proc due to her passive AAR.
  • TyDollarSignTyDollarSign Member Posts: 239 ★★
    edited March 20
    Completed this but didn't get the dupe? Did you have to do anything special?

    *EDIT* - Posted this in the wrong thread. Sorry.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,105 ★★★★★
    Shut down pacify mastery. I took damage while using sunspot cuz The falters failed to apply on block due to pacify on parry stun
  • Dirty_DozzDirty_Dozz Member Posts: 475 ★★★
    @Kabam Jax, sorry to tag you, but is this an intentional interaction? Or is the node bugged?
  • Wond3rLadWond3rLad Member Posts: 16 ★
    Noticed it with magic too. Not on a stun. Just standing there
  • SkyfawSkyfaw Member Posts: 204 ★★
    Wond3rLad said:

    Noticed it with magic too. Not on a stun. Just standing there

    Cuz of the limbo dmg presumably. Y’all not reading the nodes. Someone above already explained it’s from the Just Deserts node.
  • Wond3rLadWond3rLad Member Posts: 16 ★
    Skyfaw said:

    Wond3rLad said:

    Noticed it with magic too. Not on a stun. Just standing there

    Cuz of the limbo dmg presumably. Y’all not reading the nodes. Someone above already explained it’s from the Just Deserts node.
    Just desserts is for affecting the defenders buffs and passives. Unless i'm mistaken, limbo is a passive on magik that causes passive damage against the opponent.

  • SacrificialSacrificial Member Posts: 72 ★
    edited March 20
    This feels like terrible design if it’s intended, your own passives falling off (not even being removed) makes the fight impossible with a large number of characters, including Sam Wilson (who is one of the only 3 mighty avengers characters in the base pool)
  • SacrificialSacrificial Member Posts: 72 ★
    captain_rogers said:

    Shut down pacify mastery. I took damage while using sunspot cuz The falters failed to apply on block due to pacify on parry stun

    Nope, pacify can cause that, but even in a fight in which I didn’t parry I was still taking damage with some of the mentioned characters.
  • PantherusNZPantherusNZ Member Posts: 2,150 ★★★★★
    Maybe it's because Limbo is a passive that affects the opponent but doesn't actually sit on them, so it's considered as being blocked??

    Sounds like a weird interaction...
  • Batty_NumppoBatty_Numppo Member Posts: 288 ★★★
    Dirty_Dozz said:

    Trying to do WoW with Stryfe, and I keep randomly taking damage from mediums and heavies. Not after time, but only after she gains an Illusion charge. I know you take damage when you prevent or remove one of her abilities, but the only thing mediums and heavies prevent is evade, which she can't do. I'd post a video, but can't figure out how.

    Is this just not a Stryfe-able fight?

    Ran into the same issue and wondered why. I think another commenter above, as well as one of my ally mates, explained that reapplying the shock probably counts as removing a passive from her. Which is real dumb considering it’s your own passive DOT being refreshed. But even DUMBER is that Stryfe shouldn’t be taking passive direct damage from mediums and heavies. It’s in his kit. Not sure why this is an exception.
  • Dirty_DozzDirty_Dozz Member Posts: 475 ★★★
    Well, as an update, Stryfe will work, you just have to play him differently, and his ramp is slower. Use your SP1, hope she attacks into you alot, but don't throw your heavy while invisible. Just use Lights while the shock is on her. If you don't refresh it, you don't take damage. Then just build to your SP3 to bank charges as normal.

    The damage isn't as high as normal, since you likely won't be able to reach an SP2 while she still has shock on her. But it can work.
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