You can by pass that screen by going into spectate and a option to choose champs pops up, click that and go on attack, probably shouldnt do it but i did it
Yes, my alliance is playing this week with 29 players. In fact, today's war is against SSx-1, an alliance that has some Kabam employees. I don't understand how the season wasn't cancelled. We were at a disadvantage for three wars and tried everything but the player couldn't place his defenders.
I feel like sagas have them feeling locked in. And with the addition of the 7 star witch and top Allies gunning for that with resources, they probably want that to keep going.
The fact that they aren’t open to discussion about it tells me something is up. Always crickets
It is bizarre as seasons have been cancelled for less.
Much less. Which could be part of the problem. In the past when there were issues with alliance war, seasons were canceled because of it, which caused players to gain the expectation that canceling a war season was a reasonable course of action to take whenever problems happened. So seasons were canceled for less and less cause, reinforcing the expectation that this is an entirely ordinary response to season issues.
People assume that because the precedent was set, it is reasonable to assume it will continue to be followed, in ever more aggressive manners. But maybe the precedent that was set was that Kabam learned not to cancel war seasons short of an apocalyptic calamity, because players just assume seasons will get canceled whenever something happens they don't like.
I have no idea what Kabam is thinking with regard to this war season specifically, but I've seen lots of evidence in other areas of the game that they've specifically gone out of their way to break some of the previous precedents in how these problems get handled. I suspect the continuous AQ/input compensation packages might have been the straw that broke the camel's back there. A growing number of players decided that so long as *any* problem existed *anywhere* Kabam should just keep handing those out indefinitely, which made discontinuing them far more controversial than it should have been. And that might have told them that such measures come with a cost that they do not want to bear in the long term.
It is bizarre as seasons have been cancelled for less.
Much less. Which could be part of the problem. In the past when there were issues with alliance war, seasons were canceled because of it, which caused players to gain the expectation that canceling a war season was a reasonable course of action to take whenever problems happened. So seasons were canceled for less and less cause, reinforcing the expectation that this is an entirely ordinary response to season issues.
People assume that because the precedent was set, it is reasonable to assume it will continue to be followed, in ever more aggressive manners. But maybe the precedent that was set was that Kabam learned not to cancel war seasons short of an apocalyptic calamity, because players just assume seasons will get canceled whenever something happens they don't like.
I have no idea what Kabam is thinking with regard to this war season specifically, but I've seen lots of evidence in other areas of the game that they've specifically gone out of their way to break some of the previous precedents in how these problems get handled. I suspect the continuous AQ/input compensation packages might have been the straw that broke the camel's back there. A growing number of players decided that so long as *any* problem existed *anywhere* Kabam should just keep handing those out indefinitely, which made discontinuing them far more controversial than it should have been. And that might have told them that such measures come with a cost that they do not want to bear in the long term.
That’s a great point. I do wonder if they are entering the other extreme by letting this season continue though.
I feel like sagas have them feeling locked in. And with the addition of the 7 star witch and top Allies gunning for that with resources, they probably want that to keep going.
The fact that they aren’t open to discussion about it tells me something is up. Always crickets
they probably have the next 2 globals in line already. we're not in the driver's seat anymore and there's an entire ecosystem around AW with monetization and everything tied directly to war champions.
"bring this, rank up these, you can't bring those or you die, pull all the new champs that just came out, run them in an overtuned map, and say goodbye to most of those rankups after 2 seasons. enjoy!"
This season is completely busted for me, not a single war had full defenders, some people even said "oh you lost 2 wars I couldnt place so I'm going to play with a friend" and quit...which made new people come in and not be able to place again. Its a terrible busted season I don't even want compensation or anything I want the season to be over so I can move on to another alliance or stay to give it a chance with a fixed season
It is bizarre as seasons have been cancelled for less.
Much less. Which could be part of the problem. In the past when there were issues with alliance war, seasons were canceled because of it, which caused players to gain the expectation that canceling a war season was a reasonable course of action to take whenever problems happened. So seasons were canceled for less and less cause, reinforcing the expectation that this is an entirely ordinary response to season issues.
People assume that because the precedent was set, it is reasonable to assume it will continue to be followed, in ever more aggressive manners. But maybe the precedent that was set was that Kabam learned not to cancel war seasons short of an apocalyptic calamity, because players just assume seasons will get canceled whenever something happens they don't like.
I have no idea what Kabam is thinking with regard to this war season specifically, but I've seen lots of evidence in other areas of the game that they've specifically gone out of their way to break some of the previous precedents in how these problems get handled. I suspect the continuous AQ/input compensation packages might have been the straw that broke the camel's back there. A growing number of players decided that so long as *any* problem existed *anywhere* Kabam should just keep handing those out indefinitely, which made discontinuing them far more controversial than it should have been. And that might have told them that such measures come with a cost that they do not want to bear in the long term.
That’s a great point. I do wonder if they are entering the other extreme by letting this season continue though.
Possibly. But maybe that's what they think they need to do to break the expectation, before moving back to a more moderate middle ground. Essentially, make it the option of last resort instead of the second or third option right out of the gate.
It is bizarre as seasons have been cancelled for less.
Much less. Which could be part of the problem. In the past when there were issues with alliance war, seasons were canceled because of it, which caused players to gain the expectation that canceling a war season was a reasonable course of action to take whenever problems happened. So seasons were canceled for less and less cause, reinforcing the expectation that this is an entirely ordinary response to season issues.
People assume that because the precedent was set, it is reasonable to assume it will continue to be followed, in ever more aggressive manners. But maybe the precedent that was set was that Kabam learned not to cancel war seasons short of an apocalyptic calamity, because players just assume seasons will get canceled whenever something happens they don't like.
I have no idea what Kabam is thinking with regard to this war season specifically, but I've seen lots of evidence in other areas of the game that they've specifically gone out of their way to break some of the previous precedents in how these problems get handled. I suspect the continuous AQ/input compensation packages might have been the straw that broke the camel's back there. A growing number of players decided that so long as *any* problem existed *anywhere* Kabam should just keep handing those out indefinitely, which made discontinuing them far more controversial than it should have been. And that might have told them that such measures come with a cost that they do not want to bear in the long term.
Lol, the first time someone puts Kabam in the position of camel, sounds like Kabam is paying and bleeding money because of greedy players. You really are imaginary stakeholder of Kabam.
I feel like sagas have them feeling locked in. And with the addition of the 7 star witch and top Allies gunning for that with resources, they probably want that to keep going.
The fact that they aren’t open to discussion about it tells me something is up. Always crickets
they probably have the next 2 globals in line already. we're not in the driver's seat anymore and there's an entire ecosystem around AW with monetization and everything tied directly to war champions.
"bring this, rank up these, you can't bring those or you die, pull all the new champs that just came out, run them in an overtuned map, and say goodbye to most of those rankups after 2 seasons. enjoy!"
Yeah. I’m leaving my masters ally after the season due to war and the stress it’s caused our ally, etc. made something enjoyable turn into a giant point of contention. A game mode shouldn’t do that to an alliance. That’s the new normal we live in I guess
I feel like sagas have them feeling locked in. And with the addition of the 7 star witch and top Allies gunning for that with resources, they probably want that to keep going.
The fact that they aren’t open to discussion about it tells me something is up. Always crickets
they probably have the next 2 globals in line already. we're not in the driver's seat anymore and there's an entire ecosystem around AW with monetization and everything tied directly to war champions.
"bring this, rank up these, you can't bring those or you die, pull all the new champs that just came out, run them in an overtuned map, and say goodbye to most of those rankups after 2 seasons. enjoy!"
Yeah. I’m leaving my masters ally after the season due to war and the stress it’s caused our ally, etc. made something enjoyable turn into a giant point of contention. A game mode shouldn’t do that to an alliance. That’s the new normal we live in I guess
In what way? Half wanting to embrace the suck while the other half is like "yea that's a no from me, dawg"?
That's the part that worries me about my desire to push up into the top alliances. I imagine it would be a good time of like minded people with similar rosters and devotion to the game, but I feel at the end of the day it's nothing but corporate business with a turnover rate higher than a Thai **** house.
I feel like sagas have them feeling locked in. And with the addition of the 7 star witch and top Allies gunning for that with resources, they probably want that to keep going.
The fact that they aren’t open to discussion about it tells me something is up. Always crickets
they probably have the next 2 globals in line already. we're not in the driver's seat anymore and there's an entire ecosystem around AW with monetization and everything tied directly to war champions.
"bring this, rank up these, you can't bring those or you die, pull all the new champs that just came out, run them in an overtuned map, and say goodbye to most of those rankups after 2 seasons. enjoy!"
Yeah. I’m leaving my masters ally after the season due to war and the stress it’s caused our ally, etc. made something enjoyable turn into a giant point of contention. A game mode shouldn’t do that to an alliance. That’s the new normal we live in I guess
In what way? Half wanting to embrace the suck while the other half is like "yea that's a no from me, dawg"?
That's the part that worries me about my desire to push up into the top alliances. I imagine it would be a good time of like minded people with similar rosters and devotion to the game, but I feel at the end of the day it's nothing but corporate business with a turnover rate higher than a Thai **** house.
Pretty much. Leadership mishandled things before the start of the season and the majority wanted tot take a break because we knew the tactic would suck. A few of the leaders decided to push forward. And here we are. Doesn’t happen without an extremely unfair tactic. But here we are
It is bizarre as seasons have been cancelled for less.
“Play through it” seems to be the new theme—and not just for AW.
Dr. Zola
And that’s a pathetic take from me, especially when you have somebody like @Kabam Jax confirm in a different thread they care about the community? Right. Because the integrity of AW seasons (or any other mode) isn’t on the line at all 🙄
It is bizarre as seasons have been cancelled for less.
Much less. Which could be part of the problem. In the past when there were issues with alliance war, seasons were canceled because of it, which caused players to gain the expectation that canceling a war season was a reasonable course of action to take whenever problems happened. So seasons were canceled for less and less cause, reinforcing the expectation that this is an entirely ordinary response to season issues.
People assume that because the precedent was set, it is reasonable to assume it will continue to be followed, in ever more aggressive manners. But maybe the precedent that was set was that Kabam learned not to cancel war seasons short of an apocalyptic calamity, because players just assume seasons will get canceled whenever something happens they don't like.
I have no idea what Kabam is thinking with regard to this war season specifically, but I've seen lots of evidence in other areas of the game that they've specifically gone out of their way to break some of the previous precedents in how these problems get handled. I suspect the continuous AQ/input compensation packages might have been the straw that broke the camel's back there. A growing number of players decided that so long as *any* problem existed *anywhere* Kabam should just keep handing those out indefinitely, which made discontinuing them far more controversial than it should have been. And that might have told them that such measures come with a cost that they do not want to bear in the long term.
That’s a great point. I do wonder if they are entering the other extreme by letting this season continue though.
Possibly. But maybe that's what they think they need to do to break the expectation, before moving back to a more moderate middle ground. Essentially, make it the option of last resort instead of the second or third option right out of the gate.
Rather than level setting with an overreaction, wouldn’t it be better to put out a general set of rules around what they consider cancellation worthy (with a caveat that it can’t be all inclusive). Part of the problem is a lack of transparency about how a decision like this may be made, so the community uses past precedent as a guide.
The interesting thing to me is the dichotomy of complaints from top tier AW players and the rest of us. Cancelling AW ruins rewards for a massive majority that play the game and aren’t in a level of war where tactics affect them (all war brackets below platinum it seems) I have noticed in this forum that when low level complaints are made many of the regulars here bash them for it. BG for example when small accounts say something and everyone piles on to tell them they are wrong.
So the only people that are affected by this are top teir alliances platinum to master. What percentage of the game base is that? How many player would be negatively affected by taking your request to cancel seriously?
Sounds like the typical response to others complaining about WOW, aw showcase, or BG (which is usually less experienced or smaller accounts.) No one is forcing you to play war and use items. Do some other content and wait for next season…. How does that make you feel?
Wasn't there a time where we received AW rewards one level up from where we finished (i.e. P2 received P1 rewards)? I could see a scenario where they do that instead of cancelling the season or trying to sort through the mess of finding individual allies that have been impacted.
Wasn't there a time where we received AW rewards one level up from where we finished (i.e. P2 received P1 rewards)? I could see a scenario where they do that instead of cancelling the season or trying to sort through the mess of finding individual allies that have been impacted.
Someone said sending out compensation will make Kabam bleed money, although I thought those stuff are virtual and wouldn't cost Kabam anything.
Wasn't there a time where we received AW rewards one level up from where we finished (i.e. P2 received P1 rewards)? I could see a scenario where they do that instead of cancelling the season or trying to sort through the mess of finding individual allies that have been impacted.
Someone said sending out compensation will make Kabam bleed money, although I thought those stuff are virtual and wouldn't cost Kabam anything.
I’d be happy not getting compensation and them tuning the tactic correctly……
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In fact, today's war is against SSx-1, an alliance that has some Kabam employees.
I don't understand how the season wasn't cancelled. We were at a disadvantage for three wars and tried everything but the player couldn't place his defenders.
The fact that they aren’t open to discussion about it tells me something is up. Always crickets
People assume that because the precedent was set, it is reasonable to assume it will continue to be followed, in ever more aggressive manners. But maybe the precedent that was set was that Kabam learned not to cancel war seasons short of an apocalyptic calamity, because players just assume seasons will get canceled whenever something happens they don't like.
I have no idea what Kabam is thinking with regard to this war season specifically, but I've seen lots of evidence in other areas of the game that they've specifically gone out of their way to break some of the previous precedents in how these problems get handled. I suspect the continuous AQ/input compensation packages might have been the straw that broke the camel's back there. A growing number of players decided that so long as *any* problem existed *anywhere* Kabam should just keep handing those out indefinitely, which made discontinuing them far more controversial than it should have been. And that might have told them that such measures come with a cost that they do not want to bear in the long term.
"bring this, rank up these, you can't bring those or you die, pull all the new champs that just came out, run them in an overtuned map, and say goodbye to most of those rankups after 2 seasons. enjoy!"
Its a terrible busted season I don't even want compensation or anything I want the season to be over so I can move on to another alliance or stay to give it a chance with a fixed season
Dr. Zola
That's the part that worries me about my desire to push up into the top alliances. I imagine it would be a good time of like minded people with similar rosters and devotion to the game, but I feel at the end of the day it's nothing but corporate business with a turnover rate higher than a Thai **** house.
So the only people that are affected by this are top teir alliances platinum to master. What percentage of the game base is that? How many player would be negatively affected by taking your request to cancel seriously?
Sounds like the typical response to others complaining about WOW, aw showcase, or BG (which is usually less experienced or smaller accounts.) No one is forcing you to play war and use items. Do some other content and wait for next season…. How does that make you feel?