First tierlist 🤲

Corvus and Dani in the same tier as champs like Nick and Titania is hilarious. Venom is way too low

Forum tier lists continue to not be good
Nick only makes it to god tier because of defense

Dani has the utility and damage to make god tier she has slow and counters miss and her marked passive is probably one of the most useful abilities at the moment

Corvus is still god tier he still has really good utility and damage he may not be the best bg’s champ but he’s useable, he still destroys aq and aw and for questing he’s really quick.

Titania gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable i don't know how long people are gonna ignore the fact that her intimidate just doesn’t work and the a.i just throws their special right away and you lose all your debuffs cause they last all of 2 seconds

Venom doesn’t have the utility to make it any higher on the list
tell me ur cav without telling me ur cav
Im not cav but at least im not getting mad over other peoples opinions
UC?

You’d think someone with bars over their pfp would be a little more quiet

DiscoNnectKing

Pretty rushed but should be good enough

Why is peni parker god tier?

SaltE_Wenis69

Corvus and Dani in the same tier as champs like Nick and Titania is hilarious. Venom is way too low

Forum tier lists continue to not be good
Nick only makes it to god tier because of defense

Dani has the utility and damage to make god tier she has slow and counters miss and her marked passive is probably one of the most useful abilities at the moment

Corvus is still god tier he still has really good utility and damage he may not be the best bg’s champ but he’s useable, he still destroys aq and aw and for questing he’s really quick.

Titania gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable i don't know how long people are gonna ignore the fact that her intimidate just doesn’t work and the a.i just throws their special right away and you lose all your debuffs cause they last all of 2 seconds

Venom doesn’t have the utility to make it any higher on the list
tell me ur cav without telling me ur cav
Im not cav but at least im not getting mad over other peoples opinions
UC?
You’d think someone with bars over their pfp would be a little more quiet

you'd think UC players these days would be a little smarter

Pretty rushed but should be good enough

Why is peni parker god tier?

Utility dmg and she’s a good defender if they don't have a counter

Corvus and Dani in the same tier as champs like Nick and Titania is hilarious. Venom is way too low

Forum tier lists continue to not be good
Nick only makes it to god tier because of defense

Dani has the utility and damage to make god tier she has slow and counters miss and her marked passive is probably one of the most useful abilities at the moment

Corvus is still god tier he still has really good utility and damage he may not be the best bg’s champ but he’s useable, he still destroys aq and aw and for questing he’s really quick.

Titania gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable i don't know how long people are gonna ignore the fact that her intimidate just doesn’t work and the a.i just throws their special right away and you lose all your debuffs cause they last all of 2 seconds

Venom doesn’t have the utility to make it any higher on the list
tell me ur cav without telling me ur cav
Im not cav but at least im not getting mad over other peoples opinions
UC?
You’d think someone with bars over their pfp would be a little more quiet
you'd think UC players these days would be a little smarter

Gg’s brah

Peni above bishop, silk overseer etc is nuts

@Samanun what progression are you btw? As pretty much no paragon/valiant I know would put sorcerer and peni in a tier above bishop, overseer, silk, hype etc.

Emilia90

Corvus and Dani in the same tier as champs like Nick and Titania is hilarious. Venom is way too low

Forum tier lists continue to not be good
Nick only makes it to god tier because of defense

Dani has the utility and damage to make god tier she has slow and counters miss and her marked passive is probably one of the most useful abilities at the moment

Corvus is still god tier he still has really good utility and damage he may not be the best bg’s champ but he’s useable, he still destroys aq and aw and for questing he’s really quick.

Titania gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable i don't know how long people are gonna ignore the fact that her intimidate just doesn’t work and the a.i just throws their special right away and you lose all your debuffs cause they last all of 2 seconds

Venom doesn’t have the utility to make it any higher on the list

No one uses Corvus anymore, Dani’s utility isn’t great and outshined by lots of other champs, and also lmao. In practicality, a lot of the champs ranked high are barely used and the lower ranked champs are much better. Venom > Corvus and Dani any day

@Samanun what progression are you btw? As pretty much no paragon/valiant I know would put sorcerer and peni in a tier above bishop, overseer, silk, hype etc.

Paragon 1 r3 7*

Emilia90

@Samanun what progression are you btw? As pretty much no paragon/valiant I know would put sorcerer and peni in a tier above bishop, overseer, silk, hype etc.

I didn’t even see who made the list for a sec and now everything makes sense 😭

But yeah, I agree with you completely. Just playing the game at a paragon/valiant level in battlegrounds and the like would tell you what champs are used and aren’t used

Corvus and Dani in the same tier as champs like Nick and Titania is hilarious. Venom is way too low

Forum tier lists continue to not be good
Nick only makes it to god tier because of defense

Dani has the utility and damage to make god tier she has slow and counters miss and her marked passive is probably one of the most useful abilities at the moment

Corvus is still god tier he still has really good utility and damage he may not be the best bg’s champ but he’s useable, he still destroys aq and aw and for questing he’s really quick.

Titania gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable i don't know how long people are gonna ignore the fact that her intimidate just doesn’t work and the a.i just throws their special right away and you lose all your debuffs cause they last all of 2 seconds

Venom doesn’t have the utility to make it any higher on the list
No one uses Corvus anymore, Dani’s utility isn’t great and outshined by lots of other champs, and also lmao. In practicality, a lot of the champs ranked high are barely used and the lower ranked champs are much better. Venom > Corvus and Dani any day

How many people use a champ doesn’t = how good a champ is
And of course venom is going to be used more in bg’s corvus ideally wants ramp also venom is a 7*…

I guess having a counter to evade unstoppable and miss isn't good as well as the ability to shut down some of the best defenders in the game

You’re literally just going based off of whatever’s popular

Peni above bishop, silk overseer etc is nuts

This list isn’t about popularity it’s about who’s better as an overall champ
Silk gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable and not enough utility
And i don’t really know too much about overseer so maybe he could’ve gone higher.
Again bishop for me personally isn't that fast unless you have good crit rng he doesn't really have that much utility and for me personally he’s not a good defender so he doesn’t make it to god tier

Corvus and Dani in the same tier as champs like Nick and Titania is hilarious. Venom is way too low

Forum tier lists continue to not be good
Nick only makes it to god tier because of defense

Dani has the utility and damage to make god tier she has slow and counters miss and her marked passive is probably one of the most useful abilities at the moment

Corvus is still god tier he still has really good utility and damage he may not be the best bg’s champ but he’s useable, he still destroys aq and aw and for questing he’s really quick.

Titania gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable i don't know how long people are gonna ignore the fact that her intimidate just doesn’t work and the a.i just throws their special right away and you lose all your debuffs cause they last all of 2 seconds

Venom doesn’t have the utility to make it any higher on the list
No one uses Corvus anymore, Dani’s utility isn’t great and outshined by lots of other champs, and also lmao. In practicality, a lot of the champs ranked high are barely used and the lower ranked champs are much better. Venom > Corvus and Dani any day
How many people use a champ doesn’t = how good a champ is
And of course venom is going to be used more in bg’s corvus ideally wants ramp also venom is a 7*…

I guess having a counter to evade unstoppable and miss isn't good as well as the ability to shut down some of the best defenders in the game

You’re literally just going based off of whatever’s popular

But if no one uses a certain champ then they are unlikely to be very good and vice versa, if everyone has a certain champ in their BGs deck (e.g. Nick fury) then they are probably top of the game. Equally, people don't use sorcerer supreme much because she's a worse champion compared to other mystics that are faster/have higher damage/are more of a dual threat etc.

Peni above bishop, silk overseer etc is nuts
This list isn’t about popularity it’s about who’s better as an overall champ
Silk gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable and not enough utility
And i don’t really know too much about overseer so maybe he could’ve gone higher.
Again bishop for me personally isn't that fast unless you have good crit rng he doesn't really have that much utility and for me personally he’s not a good defender so he doesn’t make it to god tier

Peni is a rubbish defender these days as everyone and their mother has R5 ascended hulkling/galan tigra etc and they all nuke her super quick. And on offence she is much slower than silk, bishop and overseer in most matchups and on top of that she can't take nearly as many of the annoying defenders that they answer like korgs, sassys etc.

Corvus and Dani in the same tier as champs like Nick and Titania is hilarious. Venom is way too low

Forum tier lists continue to not be good
Nick only makes it to god tier because of defense

Dani has the utility and damage to make god tier she has slow and counters miss and her marked passive is probably one of the most useful abilities at the moment

Corvus is still god tier he still has really good utility and damage he may not be the best bg’s champ but he’s useable, he still destroys aq and aw and for questing he’s really quick.

Titania gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable i don't know how long people are gonna ignore the fact that her intimidate just doesn’t work and the a.i just throws their special right away and you lose all your debuffs cause they last all of 2 seconds

Venom doesn’t have the utility to make it any higher on the list
No one uses Corvus anymore, Dani’s utility isn’t great and outshined by lots of other champs, and also lmao. In practicality, a lot of the champs ranked high are barely used and the lower ranked champs are much better. Venom > Corvus and Dani any day
How many people use a champ doesn’t = how good a champ is
And of course venom is going to be used more in bg’s corvus ideally wants ramp also venom is a 7*…

I guess having a counter to evade unstoppable and miss isn't good as well as the ability to shut down some of the best defenders in the game

You’re literally just going based off of whatever’s popular
But if no one uses a certain champ then they are unlikely to be very good and vice versa, if everyone has a certain champ in their BGs deck (e.g. Nick fury) then they are probably top of the game. Equally, people don't use sorcerer supreme much because she's a worse champion compared to other mystics that are faster/have higher damage/are more of a dual threat etc.

People do use her though
She’s not a worse champ compared to other mystics though if we’re rating all mystics based off how balanced their kit is she easily cracks top 4

Peni above bishop, silk overseer etc is nuts
This list isn’t about popularity it’s about who’s better as an overall champ
Silk gets dropped a tier because she’s unreliable and not enough utility
And i don’t really know too much about overseer so maybe he could’ve gone higher.
Again bishop for me personally isn't that fast unless you have good crit rng he doesn't really have that much utility and for me personally he’s not a good defender so he doesn’t make it to god tier
Peni is a rubbish defender these days as everyone and their mother has R5 ascended hulkling/galan tigra etc and they all nuke her super quick. And on offence she is much slower than silk, bishop and overseer in most matchups and on top of that she can't take nearly as many of the annoying defenders that they answer like korgs, sassys etc.

Like i said when they DONT have a counter then she’s one of the best
Also this isnt just about bg’s.

Guess what herc is slower than silk kitty is lower than silk onslaught is slower than silk
There’s a lot of champs that are slower than silk speed doesn’t = how good a champ is
And yes peni can take korg and sassy (speaking from experience)

Sorcerer Supreme and Dani Moonstar on the same tier as Juggernaut and Tigra LOL I wonder if we'll ever see an accurate tier list.
Sorcerer is way too high. Barely anyone has a R3 sorcerer supreme (I personally haven't come across any) but tons of people have R3 overseers (including myself), bishops, hyperions, elsa, silk etc and for good reason. They are all way stronger than her, especially in BGs.

Excuse me, she's above all of those? No way that's true lol

Edit: oh hell nah she is, and Gladiator is on the same tier as them wtf 🤣

I will not accept that kind of disrespect and slander

Rayven5220

My parents once told me "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", but I never listened so here I am.

Are you out of your mind? Some of the responses you've made in here defending why you put champs above other champs are just outright wrong. @Samanun

SS a top 4 mystic in the overall game?
Nick not a good attacker?
Corvus being god tier?
The list goes on ...

My parents once told me "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", but I never listened so here I am.

Are you out of your mind? Some of the responses you've made in here defending why you put champs above other champs are just outright wrong. @Samanun

SS a top 4 mystic in the overall game?
Nick not a good attacker?
Corvus being god tier?
The list goes on ...

The fact that he actually put Sorcerer Supreme above Bishop and Silk is just... I don't even know what to say I'm speechless.

My parents once told me "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", but I never listened so here I am.

Are you out of your mind? Some of the responses you've made in here defending why you put champs above other champs are just outright wrong. @Samanun

SS a top 4 mystic in the overall game?
Nick not a good attacker?
Corvus being god tier?
The list goes on ...

Yeah overall as a champ sorcerer is just better she has utility and dmg juggs and tigra really only have dmg
Nick just times out all the time
Corvus still has the utility and dmg to remain god tier he is still useful

My parents once told me "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", but I never listened so here I am.

Are you out of your mind? Some of the responses you've made in here defending why you put champs above other champs are just outright wrong. @Samanun

SS a top 4 mystic in the overall game?
Nick not a good attacker?
Corvus being god tier?
The list goes on ...
The fact that he actually put Sorcerer Supreme above Bishop and Silk is just... I don't even know what to say I'm speechless.

You got to understand this isn't bg’s tierlist though
Sorcerer is a way more solid champ that both of them having both utility dmg and consistency which bishop and silk lack that’s why they get knocked down a tier

Rayven5220

My parents once told me "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", but I never listened so here I am.

Are you out of your mind? Some of the responses you've made in here defending why you put champs above other champs are just outright wrong. @Samanun

SS a top 4 mystic in the overall game?
Nick not a good attacker?
Corvus being god tier?
The list goes on ...
The fact that he actually put Sorcerer Supreme above Bishop and Silk is just... I don't even know what to say I'm speechless.

Thats wild...I've seen some questionable tier lists in the past, but damn... I think this one's the weirdest one yet.

Rayven5220

My parents once told me "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", but I never listened so here I am.

Are you out of your mind? Some of the responses you've made in here defending why you put champs above other champs are just outright wrong. @Samanun

SS a top 4 mystic in the overall game?
Nick not a good attacker?
Corvus being god tier?
The list goes on ...
Yeah overall as a champ sorcerer is just better she has utility and dmg juggs and tigra really only have dmg
Nick just times out all the time
Corvus still has the utility and dmg to remain god tier he is still useful

SS is better than juggs and tigra? Lmao

Corvus is useless past act 6.

And @Milan1405 literally SHOWED YOU nick slaying matches in bg's, you just clearly have bo idea how to, nor do I, but in the hands of a good nick player it's game over, clearly.

My parents once told me "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", but I never listened so here I am.

Are you out of your mind? Some of the responses you've made in here defending why you put champs above other champs are just outright wrong. @Samanun

SS a top 4 mystic in the overall game?
Nick not a good attacker?
Corvus being god tier?
The list goes on ...
Yeah overall as a champ sorcerer is just better she has utility and dmg juggs and tigra really only have dmg
Nick just times out all the time
Corvus still has the utility and dmg to remain god tier he is still useful
SS is better than juggs and tigra? Lmao

Corvus is useless past act 6.

And @Milan1405 literally SHOWED YOU nick slaying matches in bg's, you just clearly have bo idea how to, nor do I, but in the hands of a good nick player it's game over, clearly.

You’re not listening to what im saying sorcerer has a better overall kit

Corvus is not useless past act 6 just plain wrong

Milan showed me a r5 ascended nick with deep wounds doing class advantage fights against champs that aren't even defenders

My parents once told me "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", but I never listened so here I am.

Are you out of your mind? Some of the responses you've made in here defending why you put champs above other champs are just outright wrong. @Samanun

SS a top 4 mystic in the overall game?
Nick not a good attacker?
Corvus being god tier?
The list goes on ...
The fact that he actually put Sorcerer Supreme above Bishop and Silk is just... I don't even know what to say I'm speechless.
You got to understand this isn't bg’s tierlist though
Sorcerer is a way more solid champ that both of them having both utility dmg and consistency which bishop and silk lack that’s why they get knocked down a tier

Sorcerer Supreme does not have more damage or consistency lol.
7* Silk can deal over 600k damage in a single sp3 rotation, and 7* Bishop's sp2 usually takes over 200k between actual hits and the incinerate at the end of the special. If you genuinely believe Sorcerer Supreme has more damage and is more consistent than them I don't know what to tell you other than you need to play the game more cause it doesn't sound like you know that much.

My parents once told me "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all", but I never listened so here I am.

Are you out of your mind? Some of the responses you've made in here defending why you put champs above other champs are just outright wrong. @Samanun

SS a top 4 mystic in the overall game?
Nick not a good attacker?
Corvus being god tier?
The list goes on ...
The fact that he actually put Sorcerer Supreme above Bishop and Silk is just... I don't even know what to say I'm speechless.
Thats wild...I've seen some questionable tier lists in the past, but damn... I think this one's the weirdest one yet.

He's actually trying to justify it too... I don't think we should even bother arguing, it's a lost cause.