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    RookiieRookiie Posts: 4,772 ★★★★★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Final score 175:171
    @Kabam Miike we won lol

    177-171 😉
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    BendyBendy Posts: 3,396 ★★★★★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    Rookiie said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Final score 175:171
    @Kabam Miike we won lol

    177-171 😉
    How is it still this close haha but yay haha a majority
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    Aomine_Daiki10Aomine_Daiki10 Posts: 1,626 ★★★★★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    Most people forget that quake damage will be boosted with the physical vulnerability and as well having her in 6/7 rarity the only downside is she won't be able to counter all the nodes in the game and might not be able to take some defenders she used to take. But looking at mcoc now one of the pain points in the game is the AI not throwing special, quake has always had the ability to finish fight without having to bait special which is a great utility to have as most defenders or troublesome nodes starts giving issues the moment you push the AI past one bar of power or having to touch the. Imo she will be a wonderful addition to the game moving forward.
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    IggyPopIggyPop Posts: 29 ★
    Leave her as-is and phase her out
    Phantøm_Echø said:


    The thing is, I feel as if though every character in the game is a fun work of art, and leaving them behind is not only a shame to the developer but also to those who enjoy a different play style that the character offers.

    Totally understandable. I would hate if my work that I spend days and maybe weeks working to perfection was forgotten and left on a shelf collecting dust.
    But, what about other great looking/animated champs that could use a facelift and already present at 6* rarities? Why try to reinvent a wheel that works perfectly when there are plenty of other things to be working on? Makes sense to spend resources at this time where they needed most. Don’t think Quake needs it now though, maybe down the road for sure.
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    IggyPopIggyPop Posts: 29 ★
    Leave her as-is and phase her out
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Final score 175:171
    @Kabam Miike we won lol

    I didn’t see no timer to indicate that poll is over 👀 maybe more people will pull up to vote for or against, let’s just sit, comment on other people’s opinions and wait 😁
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    RookiieRookiie Posts: 4,772 ★★★★★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    IggyPop said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Final score 175:171
    @Kabam Miike we won lol

    I didn’t see no timer to indicate that poll is over 👀 maybe more people will pull up to vote for or against, let’s just sit, comment on other people’s opinions and wait 😁

    I think it’s done - unless this poll gets a lot of attention from Kabam or a prominent content creator - we won’t see that many more votes.
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    BendyBendy Posts: 3,396 ★★★★★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    Rookiie said:

    IggyPop said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Final score 175:171
    @Kabam Miike we won lol

    I didn’t see no timer to indicate that poll is over 👀 maybe more people will pull up to vote for or against, let’s just sit, comment on other people’s opinions and wait 😁

    I think it’s done - unless this poll gets a lot of attention from Kabam or a prominent content creator - we won’t see that many more votes.
    Yeah wish kabam could provide more details of the change as with just the 2 they mentioned its not enough to convince everyone but maybe a more detail explanation will
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    ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Posts: 3,296 ★★★★★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    IggyPop said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Final score 175:171
    @Kabam Miike we won lol

    I didn’t see no timer to indicate that poll is over 👀 maybe more people will pull up to vote for or against, let’s just sit, comment on other people’s opinions and wait 😁
    Poll's been up for nearly week lmao I'm sorry.
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    ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Posts: 3,296 ★★★★★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    IggyPop said:

    Phantøm_Echø said:


    The thing is, I feel as if though every character in the game is a fun work of art, and leaving them behind is not only a shame to the developer but also to those who enjoy a different play style that the character offers.

    Totally understandable. I would hate if my work that I spend days and maybe weeks working to perfection was forgotten and left on a shelf collecting dust.
    But, what about other great looking/animated champs that could use a facelift and already present at 6* rarities? Why try to reinvent a wheel that works perfectly when there are plenty of other things to be working on? Makes sense to spend resources at this time where they needed most. Don’t think Quake needs it now though, maybe down the road for sure.
    Also Quake's nerf wouldn't put a halt to the rebalancing program or delay anything that much. It would take a month just like every other buff so far, one month is really not that big of a deal we'd be back to seeing buffs in no time.
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    RookiieRookiie Posts: 4,772 ★★★★★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    Can we bring Quake back now please?
    @Kabam Miike
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    MadGodOryxMadGodOryx Posts: 55 ★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    IggyPop said:

    Phantøm_Echø said:


    The thing is, I feel as if though every character in the game is a fun work of art, and leaving them behind is not only a shame to the developer but also to those who enjoy a different play style that the character offers.

    Totally understandable. I would hate if my work that I spend days and maybe weeks working to perfection was forgotten and left on a shelf collecting dust.
    But, what about other great looking/animated champs that could use a facelift and already present at 6* rarities? Why try to reinvent a wheel that works perfectly when there are plenty of other things to be working on? Makes sense to spend resources at this time where they needed most. Don’t think Quake needs it now though, maybe down the road for sure.
    What about Cyclops? Why are we buffing X champ instead of Cyclops? Wont someone please think of the Cyclops!!

    Buddy. Its a rebalancing program. Its built to rebalance. There is a champ so awfully balanced that they cant even be a 6 star. We even have a blueprint on what do change with them already.

    So, how about we just stop throwing around absolutely worthless whataboutisms and REBALANCE THE CHAMP then?
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    ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Posts: 3,296 ★★★★★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    MadGodOryx said:

    IggyPop said:

    Phantøm_Echø said:


    The thing is, I feel as if though every character in the game is a fun work of art, and leaving them behind is not only a shame to the developer but also to those who enjoy a different play style that the character offers.

    Totally understandable. I would hate if my work that I spend days and maybe weeks working to perfection was forgotten and left on a shelf collecting dust.
    But, what about other great looking/animated champs that could use a facelift and already present at 6* rarities? Why try to reinvent a wheel that works perfectly when there are plenty of other things to be working on? Makes sense to spend resources at this time where they needed most. Don’t think Quake needs it now though, maybe down the road for sure.
    What about Cyclops? Why are we buffing X champ instead of Cyclops? Wont someone please think of the Cyclops!!

    Buddy. Its a rebalancing program. Its built to rebalance. There is a champ so awfully balanced that they cant even be a 6 star. We even have a blueprint on what do change with them already.

    So, how about we just stop throwing around absolutely worthless whataboutisms and REBALANCE THE CHAMP then?
    It's pretty funny to me how people keep acting like this would totally delay future buffs by a couple of months because a lot of time and resources have to go into her nerf when half of it is pretty much already done lol.
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    MadGodOryxMadGodOryx Posts: 55 ★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    MadGodOryx said:

    IggyPop said:

    Phantøm_Echø said:


    The thing is, I feel as if though every character in the game is a fun work of art, and leaving them behind is not only a shame to the developer but also to those who enjoy a different play style that the character offers.

    Totally understandable. I would hate if my work that I spend days and maybe weeks working to perfection was forgotten and left on a shelf collecting dust.
    But, what about other great looking/animated champs that could use a facelift and already present at 6* rarities? Why try to reinvent a wheel that works perfectly when there are plenty of other things to be working on? Makes sense to spend resources at this time where they needed most. Don’t think Quake needs it now though, maybe down the road for sure.
    What about Cyclops? Why are we buffing X champ instead of Cyclops? Wont someone please think of the Cyclops!!

    Buddy. Its a rebalancing program. Its built to rebalance. There is a champ so awfully balanced that they cant even be a 6 star. We even have a blueprint on what do change with them already.

    So, how about we just stop throwing around absolutely worthless whataboutisms and REBALANCE THE CHAMP then?
    It's pretty funny to me how people keep acting like this would totally delay future buffs by a couple of months because a lot of time and resources have to go into her nerf when half of it is pretty much already done lol.
    9 out of 10 people who trot out that line dont even care that much about how long it would take. They just dont like the nerf word attached to it
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    ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Posts: 3,296 ★★★★★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    MadGodOryx said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    MadGodOryx said:

    IggyPop said:

    Phantøm_Echø said:


    The thing is, I feel as if though every character in the game is a fun work of art, and leaving them behind is not only a shame to the developer but also to those who enjoy a different play style that the character offers.

    Totally understandable. I would hate if my work that I spend days and maybe weeks working to perfection was forgotten and left on a shelf collecting dust.
    But, what about other great looking/animated champs that could use a facelift and already present at 6* rarities? Why try to reinvent a wheel that works perfectly when there are plenty of other things to be working on? Makes sense to spend resources at this time where they needed most. Don’t think Quake needs it now though, maybe down the road for sure.
    What about Cyclops? Why are we buffing X champ instead of Cyclops? Wont someone please think of the Cyclops!!

    Buddy. Its a rebalancing program. Its built to rebalance. There is a champ so awfully balanced that they cant even be a 6 star. We even have a blueprint on what do change with them already.

    So, how about we just stop throwing around absolutely worthless whataboutisms and REBALANCE THE CHAMP then?
    It's pretty funny to me how people keep acting like this would totally delay future buffs by a couple of months because a lot of time and resources have to go into her nerf when half of it is pretty much already done lol.
    9 out of 10 people who trot out that line dont even care that much about how long it would take. They just dont like the nerf word attached to it
    Yeah, and I'm willing to bet 50% of the people who voted no don't even play Quake at all, just here to complain for the sake of complaining as per usual.
    In what world is it logical to think "champion fading into obscurity completely even if that means I will never be able to use them again cause the game is moving forward > nerfing them slightly so they can move forward too and be relevant again".
    It just really REALLY doesn't make sense to me, what even is the logic behind that? Elitism? Wanting to feel special? Lol
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    BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Posts: 1,587 ★★★★★
    Leave her as-is and phase her out
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    MadGodOryx said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    MadGodOryx said:

    IggyPop said:

    Phantøm_Echø said:


    The thing is, I feel as if though every character in the game is a fun work of art, and leaving them behind is not only a shame to the developer but also to those who enjoy a different play style that the character offers.

    Totally understandable. I would hate if my work that I spend days and maybe weeks working to perfection was forgotten and left on a shelf collecting dust.
    But, what about other great looking/animated champs that could use a facelift and already present at 6* rarities? Why try to reinvent a wheel that works perfectly when there are plenty of other things to be working on? Makes sense to spend resources at this time where they needed most. Don’t think Quake needs it now though, maybe down the road for sure.
    What about Cyclops? Why are we buffing X champ instead of Cyclops? Wont someone please think of the Cyclops!!

    Buddy. Its a rebalancing program. Its built to rebalance. There is a champ so awfully balanced that they cant even be a 6 star. We even have a blueprint on what do change with them already.

    So, how about we just stop throwing around absolutely worthless whataboutisms and REBALANCE THE CHAMP then?
    It's pretty funny to me how people keep acting like this would totally delay future buffs by a couple of months because a lot of time and resources have to go into her nerf when half of it is pretty much already done lol.
    9 out of 10 people who trot out that line dont even care that much about how long it would take. They just dont like the nerf word attached to it
    Yeah, and I'm willing to bet 50% of the people who voted no don't even play Quake at all, just here to complain for the sake of complaining as per usual.
    In what world is it logical to think "champion fading into obscurity completely even if that means I will never be able to use them again cause the game is moving forward > nerfing them slightly so they can move forward too and be relevant again".
    It just really REALLY doesn't make sense to me, what even is the logic behind that? Elitism? Wanting to feel special? Lol
    Nostalgia will be like that. I think it doesn’t have to be a binary choice though and there’s a great alternative suggestion floated on this thread. I missed Piklou’s first mention of a Deathless Quake but any reskin of her that was launched with an adjusted kit that lives in all rarities could satisfy both sides here (outside of the people trying to “win” the discussion).
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    ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Posts: 3,296 ★★★★★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    BigBlueOx said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    MadGodOryx said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    MadGodOryx said:

    IggyPop said:

    Phantøm_Echø said:


    The thing is, I feel as if though every character in the game is a fun work of art, and leaving them behind is not only a shame to the developer but also to those who enjoy a different play style that the character offers.

    Totally understandable. I would hate if my work that I spend days and maybe weeks working to perfection was forgotten and left on a shelf collecting dust.
    But, what about other great looking/animated champs that could use a facelift and already present at 6* rarities? Why try to reinvent a wheel that works perfectly when there are plenty of other things to be working on? Makes sense to spend resources at this time where they needed most. Don’t think Quake needs it now though, maybe down the road for sure.
    What about Cyclops? Why are we buffing X champ instead of Cyclops? Wont someone please think of the Cyclops!!

    Buddy. Its a rebalancing program. Its built to rebalance. There is a champ so awfully balanced that they cant even be a 6 star. We even have a blueprint on what do change with them already.

    So, how about we just stop throwing around absolutely worthless whataboutisms and REBALANCE THE CHAMP then?
    It's pretty funny to me how people keep acting like this would totally delay future buffs by a couple of months because a lot of time and resources have to go into her nerf when half of it is pretty much already done lol.
    9 out of 10 people who trot out that line dont even care that much about how long it would take. They just dont like the nerf word attached to it
    Yeah, and I'm willing to bet 50% of the people who voted no don't even play Quake at all, just here to complain for the sake of complaining as per usual.
    In what world is it logical to think "champion fading into obscurity completely even if that means I will never be able to use them again cause the game is moving forward > nerfing them slightly so they can move forward too and be relevant again".
    It just really REALLY doesn't make sense to me, what even is the logic behind that? Elitism? Wanting to feel special? Lol
    Nostalgia will be like that. I think it doesn’t have to be a binary choice though and there’s a great alternative suggestion floated on this thread. I missed Piklou’s first mention of a Deathless Quake but any reskin of her that was launched with an adjusted kit that lives in all rarities could satisfy both sides here (outside of the people trying to “win” the discussion).
    I understand nostalgia, I played the game back then too but it is precisely because of nostalgia that I wish I could use her again. I miss using Quake, and if a slight nerf is all it takes then for me it's a yes go for it as long as she doesn't get completely gutted and her playstyle remains the same.

    As for that suggestion I wouldn't mind that either personally, I just want to be able to play Quake (or a reskin, doesn't matter to me) efficiently in 2024. I understand she can't be as good as she was but after Miike mentioned her playstyle would not change just the number of matchups she can take I was sold.
    Also I don't know if people realize this or not but she would hard counter Photon Onslaught FAM and Dust completely. She's the answer to all our problems lol.
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    BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Posts: 1,587 ★★★★★
    Leave her as-is and phase her out
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    MadGodOryx said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    MadGodOryx said:

    IggyPop said:

    Phantøm_Echø said:


    The thing is, I feel as if though every character in the game is a fun work of art, and leaving them behind is not only a shame to the developer but also to those who enjoy a different play style that the character offers.

    Totally understandable. I would hate if my work that I spend days and maybe weeks working to perfection was forgotten and left on a shelf collecting dust.
    But, what about other great looking/animated champs that could use a facelift and already present at 6* rarities? Why try to reinvent a wheel that works perfectly when there are plenty of other things to be working on? Makes sense to spend resources at this time where they needed most. Don’t think Quake needs it now though, maybe down the road for sure.
    What about Cyclops? Why are we buffing X champ instead of Cyclops? Wont someone please think of the Cyclops!!

    Buddy. Its a rebalancing program. Its built to rebalance. There is a champ so awfully balanced that they cant even be a 6 star. We even have a blueprint on what do change with them already.

    So, how about we just stop throwing around absolutely worthless whataboutisms and REBALANCE THE CHAMP then?
    It's pretty funny to me how people keep acting like this would totally delay future buffs by a couple of months because a lot of time and resources have to go into her nerf when half of it is pretty much already done lol.
    9 out of 10 people who trot out that line dont even care that much about how long it would take. They just dont like the nerf word attached to it
    Yeah, and I'm willing to bet 50% of the people who voted no don't even play Quake at all, just here to complain for the sake of complaining as per usual.
    In what world is it logical to think "champion fading into obscurity completely even if that means I will never be able to use them again cause the game is moving forward > nerfing them slightly so they can move forward too and be relevant again".
    It just really REALLY doesn't make sense to me, what even is the logic behind that? Elitism? Wanting to feel special? Lol
    Nostalgia will be like that. I think it doesn’t have to be a binary choice though and there’s a great alternative suggestion floated on this thread. I missed Piklou’s first mention of a Deathless Quake but any reskin of her that was launched with an adjusted kit that lives in all rarities could satisfy both sides here (outside of the people trying to “win” the discussion).
    I understand nostalgia, I played the game back then too but it is precisely because of nostalgia that I wish I could use her again. I miss using Quake, and if a slight nerf is all it takes then for me it's a yes go for it as long as she doesn't get completely gutted and her playstyle remains the same.

    As for that suggestion I wouldn't mind that either personally, I just want to be able to play Quake (or a reskin, doesn't matter to me) efficiently in 2024. I understand she can't be as good as she was but after Miike mentioned her playstyle would not change just the number of matchups she can take I was sold.
    Also I don't know if people realize this or not but she would hard counter Photon Onslaught FAM and Dust completely. She's the answer to all our problems lol.
    Bullseye too, definitely agree with your perspective on this one.
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    ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Posts: 3,296 ★★★★★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    BigBlueOx said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    MadGodOryx said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    MadGodOryx said:

    IggyPop said:

    Phantøm_Echø said:


    The thing is, I feel as if though every character in the game is a fun work of art, and leaving them behind is not only a shame to the developer but also to those who enjoy a different play style that the character offers.

    Totally understandable. I would hate if my work that I spend days and maybe weeks working to perfection was forgotten and left on a shelf collecting dust.
    But, what about other great looking/animated champs that could use a facelift and already present at 6* rarities? Why try to reinvent a wheel that works perfectly when there are plenty of other things to be working on? Makes sense to spend resources at this time where they needed most. Don’t think Quake needs it now though, maybe down the road for sure.
    What about Cyclops? Why are we buffing X champ instead of Cyclops? Wont someone please think of the Cyclops!!

    Buddy. Its a rebalancing program. Its built to rebalance. There is a champ so awfully balanced that they cant even be a 6 star. We even have a blueprint on what do change with them already.

    So, how about we just stop throwing around absolutely worthless whataboutisms and REBALANCE THE CHAMP then?
    It's pretty funny to me how people keep acting like this would totally delay future buffs by a couple of months because a lot of time and resources have to go into her nerf when half of it is pretty much already done lol.
    9 out of 10 people who trot out that line dont even care that much about how long it would take. They just dont like the nerf word attached to it
    Yeah, and I'm willing to bet 50% of the people who voted no don't even play Quake at all, just here to complain for the sake of complaining as per usual.
    In what world is it logical to think "champion fading into obscurity completely even if that means I will never be able to use them again cause the game is moving forward > nerfing them slightly so they can move forward too and be relevant again".
    It just really REALLY doesn't make sense to me, what even is the logic behind that? Elitism? Wanting to feel special? Lol
    Nostalgia will be like that. I think it doesn’t have to be a binary choice though and there’s a great alternative suggestion floated on this thread. I missed Piklou’s first mention of a Deathless Quake but any reskin of her that was launched with an adjusted kit that lives in all rarities could satisfy both sides here (outside of the people trying to “win” the discussion).
    I understand nostalgia, I played the game back then too but it is precisely because of nostalgia that I wish I could use her again. I miss using Quake, and if a slight nerf is all it takes then for me it's a yes go for it as long as she doesn't get completely gutted and her playstyle remains the same.

    As for that suggestion I wouldn't mind that either personally, I just want to be able to play Quake (or a reskin, doesn't matter to me) efficiently in 2024. I understand she can't be as good as she was but after Miike mentioned her playstyle would not change just the number of matchups she can take I was sold.
    Also I don't know if people realize this or not but she would hard counter Photon Onslaught FAM and Dust completely. She's the answer to all our problems lol.
    Bullseye too, definitely agree with your perspective on this one.
    Glad we agreed on something lol not sure about Bullseye though, do you get instant bleeds if you evade too? Can't remember.
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    BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Posts: 1,587 ★★★★★
    Leave her as-is and phase her out
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    MadGodOryx said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    MadGodOryx said:

    IggyPop said:

    Phantøm_Echø said:


    The thing is, I feel as if though every character in the game is a fun work of art, and leaving them behind is not only a shame to the developer but also to those who enjoy a different play style that the character offers.

    Totally understandable. I would hate if my work that I spend days and maybe weeks working to perfection was forgotten and left on a shelf collecting dust.
    But, what about other great looking/animated champs that could use a facelift and already present at 6* rarities? Why try to reinvent a wheel that works perfectly when there are plenty of other things to be working on? Makes sense to spend resources at this time where they needed most. Don’t think Quake needs it now though, maybe down the road for sure.
    What about Cyclops? Why are we buffing X champ instead of Cyclops? Wont someone please think of the Cyclops!!

    Buddy. Its a rebalancing program. Its built to rebalance. There is a champ so awfully balanced that they cant even be a 6 star. We even have a blueprint on what do change with them already.

    So, how about we just stop throwing around absolutely worthless whataboutisms and REBALANCE THE CHAMP then?
    It's pretty funny to me how people keep acting like this would totally delay future buffs by a couple of months because a lot of time and resources have to go into her nerf when half of it is pretty much already done lol.
    9 out of 10 people who trot out that line dont even care that much about how long it would take. They just dont like the nerf word attached to it
    Yeah, and I'm willing to bet 50% of the people who voted no don't even play Quake at all, just here to complain for the sake of complaining as per usual.
    In what world is it logical to think "champion fading into obscurity completely even if that means I will never be able to use them again cause the game is moving forward > nerfing them slightly so they can move forward too and be relevant again".
    It just really REALLY doesn't make sense to me, what even is the logic behind that? Elitism? Wanting to feel special? Lol
    Nostalgia will be like that. I think it doesn’t have to be a binary choice though and there’s a great alternative suggestion floated on this thread. I missed Piklou’s first mention of a Deathless Quake but any reskin of her that was launched with an adjusted kit that lives in all rarities could satisfy both sides here (outside of the people trying to “win” the discussion).
    I understand nostalgia, I played the game back then too but it is precisely because of nostalgia that I wish I could use her again. I miss using Quake, and if a slight nerf is all it takes then for me it's a yes go for it as long as she doesn't get completely gutted and her playstyle remains the same.

    As for that suggestion I wouldn't mind that either personally, I just want to be able to play Quake (or a reskin, doesn't matter to me) efficiently in 2024. I understand she can't be as good as she was but after Miike mentioned her playstyle would not change just the number of matchups she can take I was sold.
    Also I don't know if people realize this or not but she would hard counter Photon Onslaught FAM and Dust completely. She's the answer to all our problems lol.
    Bullseye too, definitely agree with your perspective on this one.
    Glad we agreed on something lol not sure about Bullseye though, do you get instant bleeds if you evade too? Can't remember.
    Nope, only if you Dex. I had to confirm it for myself. So if you are able to Quake and Bake or do the evade only method she can rock him.

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    BendyBendy Posts: 3,396 ★★★★★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    BigBlueOx said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    MadGodOryx said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    MadGodOryx said:

    IggyPop said:

    Phantøm_Echø said:


    The thing is, I feel as if though every character in the game is a fun work of art, and leaving them behind is not only a shame to the developer but also to those who enjoy a different play style that the character offers.

    Totally understandable. I would hate if my work that I spend days and maybe weeks working to perfection was forgotten and left on a shelf collecting dust.
    But, what about other great looking/animated champs that could use a facelift and already present at 6* rarities? Why try to reinvent a wheel that works perfectly when there are plenty of other things to be working on? Makes sense to spend resources at this time where they needed most. Don’t think Quake needs it now though, maybe down the road for sure.
    What about Cyclops? Why are we buffing X champ instead of Cyclops? Wont someone please think of the Cyclops!!

    Buddy. Its a rebalancing program. Its built to rebalance. There is a champ so awfully balanced that they cant even be a 6 star. We even have a blueprint on what do change with them already.

    So, how about we just stop throwing around absolutely worthless whataboutisms and REBALANCE THE CHAMP then?
    It's pretty funny to me how people keep acting like this would totally delay future buffs by a couple of months because a lot of time and resources have to go into her nerf when half of it is pretty much already done lol.
    9 out of 10 people who trot out that line dont even care that much about how long it would take. They just dont like the nerf word attached to it
    Yeah, and I'm willing to bet 50% of the people who voted no don't even play Quake at all, just here to complain for the sake of complaining as per usual.
    In what world is it logical to think "champion fading into obscurity completely even if that means I will never be able to use them again cause the game is moving forward > nerfing them slightly so they can move forward too and be relevant again".
    It just really REALLY doesn't make sense to me, what even is the logic behind that? Elitism? Wanting to feel special? Lol
    Nostalgia will be like that. I think it doesn’t have to be a binary choice though and there’s a great alternative suggestion floated on this thread. I missed Piklou’s first mention of a Deathless Quake but any reskin of her that was launched with an adjusted kit that lives in all rarities could satisfy both sides here (outside of the people trying to “win” the discussion).
    I understand nostalgia, I played the game back then too but it is precisely because of nostalgia that I wish I could use her again. I miss using Quake, and if a slight nerf is all it takes then for me it's a yes go for it as long as she doesn't get completely gutted and her playstyle remains the same.

    As for that suggestion I wouldn't mind that either personally, I just want to be able to play Quake (or a reskin, doesn't matter to me) efficiently in 2024. I understand she can't be as good as she was but after Miike mentioned her playstyle would not change just the number of matchups she can take I was sold.
    Also I don't know if people realize this or not but she would hard counter Photon Onslaught FAM and Dust completely. She's the answer to all our problems lol.
    Bullseye too, definitely agree with your perspective on this one.
    Glad we agreed on something lol not sure about Bullseye though, do you get instant bleeds if you evade too? Can't remember.
    Nope, only if you Dex. I had to confirm it for myself. So if you are able to Quake and Bake or do the evade only method she can rock him.

    Oh nice thats actually great then
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    ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Posts: 3,296 ★★★★★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    BigBlueOx said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    MadGodOryx said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    MadGodOryx said:

    IggyPop said:

    Phantøm_Echø said:


    The thing is, I feel as if though every character in the game is a fun work of art, and leaving them behind is not only a shame to the developer but also to those who enjoy a different play style that the character offers.

    Totally understandable. I would hate if my work that I spend days and maybe weeks working to perfection was forgotten and left on a shelf collecting dust.
    But, what about other great looking/animated champs that could use a facelift and already present at 6* rarities? Why try to reinvent a wheel that works perfectly when there are plenty of other things to be working on? Makes sense to spend resources at this time where they needed most. Don’t think Quake needs it now though, maybe down the road for sure.
    What about Cyclops? Why are we buffing X champ instead of Cyclops? Wont someone please think of the Cyclops!!

    Buddy. Its a rebalancing program. Its built to rebalance. There is a champ so awfully balanced that they cant even be a 6 star. We even have a blueprint on what do change with them already.

    So, how about we just stop throwing around absolutely worthless whataboutisms and REBALANCE THE CHAMP then?
    It's pretty funny to me how people keep acting like this would totally delay future buffs by a couple of months because a lot of time and resources have to go into her nerf when half of it is pretty much already done lol.
    9 out of 10 people who trot out that line dont even care that much about how long it would take. They just dont like the nerf word attached to it
    Yeah, and I'm willing to bet 50% of the people who voted no don't even play Quake at all, just here to complain for the sake of complaining as per usual.
    In what world is it logical to think "champion fading into obscurity completely even if that means I will never be able to use them again cause the game is moving forward > nerfing them slightly so they can move forward too and be relevant again".
    It just really REALLY doesn't make sense to me, what even is the logic behind that? Elitism? Wanting to feel special? Lol
    Nostalgia will be like that. I think it doesn’t have to be a binary choice though and there’s a great alternative suggestion floated on this thread. I missed Piklou’s first mention of a Deathless Quake but any reskin of her that was launched with an adjusted kit that lives in all rarities could satisfy both sides here (outside of the people trying to “win” the discussion).
    I understand nostalgia, I played the game back then too but it is precisely because of nostalgia that I wish I could use her again. I miss using Quake, and if a slight nerf is all it takes then for me it's a yes go for it as long as she doesn't get completely gutted and her playstyle remains the same.

    As for that suggestion I wouldn't mind that either personally, I just want to be able to play Quake (or a reskin, doesn't matter to me) efficiently in 2024. I understand she can't be as good as she was but after Miike mentioned her playstyle would not change just the number of matchups she can take I was sold.
    Also I don't know if people realize this or not but she would hard counter Photon Onslaught FAM and Dust completely. She's the answer to all our problems lol.
    Bullseye too, definitely agree with your perspective on this one.
    Glad we agreed on something lol not sure about Bullseye though, do you get instant bleeds if you evade too? Can't remember.
    Nope, only if you Dex. I had to confirm it for myself. So if you are able to Quake and Bake or do the evade only method she can rock him.

    That's even crazier then wow that's 5 meta defenders down the drain. I want that nerf or reskin even more now, praying it happens.
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    TheNepperTheNepper Posts: 24 ★
    Leave her as-is and phase her out
    BigBlueOx said:


    Nope, only if you Dex. I had to confirm it for myself. So if you are able to Quake and Bake or do the evade only method she can rock him.

    It works now like that because of concussion. If it would be removed, you would bleed from evade as well.
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    BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Posts: 1,587 ★★★★★
    Leave her as-is and phase her out
    TheNepper said:

    BigBlueOx said:


    Nope, only if you Dex. I had to confirm it for myself. So if you are able to Quake and Bake or do the evade only method she can rock him.

    It works now like that because of concussion. If it would be removed, you would bleed from evade as well.
    Ah. Good catch.
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    BendyBendy Posts: 3,396 ★★★★★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    Even with that i would still rather her be nerfed to remove concussion for physical vuln
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    NightheartNightheart Posts: 814 ★★★
    edited March 30
    Leave her as-is and phase her out
    Honestly Quakes playstyle involves using the heavy and evade or parry heavy Otherwise, when you play her the normal way she's pretty much average. What about the rest of her kit or specials her normal hits and all? I mean if you change her she can be played the normal way and do great damage.
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    ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Posts: 3,296 ★★★★★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    No Bullseye I guess, too good to be true.
    Don't care though, she'd still obliterate FAM Photon Onslaught and Dust so easily without concussion.

    Anyways 192:177, still not overwhelming majority but it's something. Last time there was a poll we stood no chance, hope more people open their eyes as time goes by lol.
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    BendyBendy Posts: 3,396 ★★★★★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    No Bullseye I guess, too good to be true.
    Don't care though, she'd still obliterate FAM Photon Onslaught and Dust so easily without concussion.

    Anyways 192:177, still not overwhelming majority but it's something. Last time there was a poll we stood no chance, hope more people open their eyes as time goes by lol.

    Only one in that list id need to actually counter is photon or fam like i like learning onslaught and dust
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    ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Posts: 3,296 ★★★★★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    Bendy said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    No Bullseye I guess, too good to be true.
    Don't care though, she'd still obliterate FAM Photon Onslaught and Dust so easily without concussion.

    Anyways 192:177, still not overwhelming majority but it's something. Last time there was a poll we stood no chance, hope more people open their eyes as time goes by lol.

    Only one in that list id need to actually counter is photon or fam like i like learning onslaught and dust
    Same here, Dust only needs someone with incinerate and Onslaught is easy to counter in general (champs who can't crit like Shocker make it even easier) but I know 90% of the playerbase absolutely despises fighting them so that's why I said Quake is the answer to everyone's problems lol quite literally.
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    BendyBendy Posts: 3,396 ★★★★★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Bendy said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    No Bullseye I guess, too good to be true.
    Don't care though, she'd still obliterate FAM Photon Onslaught and Dust so easily without concussion.

    Anyways 192:177, still not overwhelming majority but it's something. Last time there was a poll we stood no chance, hope more people open their eyes as time goes by lol.

    Only one in that list id need to actually counter is photon or fam like i like learning onslaught and dust
    Same here, Dust only needs someone with incinerate and Onslaught is easy to counter in general (champs who can't crit like Shocker make it even easier) but I know 90% of the playerbase absolutely despises fighting them so that's why I said Quake is the answer to everyone's problems lol quite literally.
    Ive been learning the havok cheese on onslaught not there yet though but will do once timing and dust will see as havent seen her on defense yet to actually practise i just know in incursions that month she was a pain to fight
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    ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Posts: 3,296 ★★★★★
    Adjust Quake and reintroduce her
    Bendy said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Bendy said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    No Bullseye I guess, too good to be true.
    Don't care though, she'd still obliterate FAM Photon Onslaught and Dust so easily without concussion.

    Anyways 192:177, still not overwhelming majority but it's something. Last time there was a poll we stood no chance, hope more people open their eyes as time goes by lol.

    Only one in that list id need to actually counter is photon or fam like i like learning onslaught and dust
    Same here, Dust only needs someone with incinerate and Onslaught is easy to counter in general (champs who can't crit like Shocker make it even easier) but I know 90% of the playerbase absolutely despises fighting them so that's why I said Quake is the answer to everyone's problems lol quite literally.
    Ive been learning the havok cheese on onslaught not there yet though but will do once timing and dust will see as havent seen her on defense yet to actually practise i just know in incursions that month she was a pain to fight
    For Dust, you're good if you have someone with incinerate or plasma that's all you really need. If you don't however good luck with light intercepting the whole match cause you won't be able to hit on her block or block any hits.
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