Is it Possible to Be “Valiant” Without the “Thronebreaker” or “Paragon” Titles?

Title. Since “Valiant” has no 6* requirements, I’ve been wondering about this. And theoretically, would a player in this situation not have access to things like Thronebreaker EQ?

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MarvelNoob

Should I start a new account to test this?

Feuerschwer

It’s theoretically possible? It would be difficult to hit Valiant without any 6* above rank 3, (and you get enough gems in Act 8 that I think you could get Paragon just using gems).

captain_rogers

Someone should try this

EdisonLaw

Possible but harder

Bendy

Title. Since “Valiant” has no 6* requirements, I’ve been wondering about this. And theoretically, would a player in this situation not have access to things like Thronebreaker EQ?

U could but to enter necro u need to be paragon so u wont get 7 r3s easily until u 100% act 8 and in roughly 2 years for the act 9 conclusion

DNA3000

Title. Since “Valiant” has no 6* requirements, I’ve been wondering about this. And theoretically, would a player in this situation not have access to things like Thronebreaker EQ?

According to the devs, no.

This was brought up in discussions on the CCP server a while back, and according to Kabam while the posted requirements suggests it is possible to do so in theory, the game does check to see if you happen to leapfrog the requirements for one title. In other words, if you were to attempt this by, say, trying to get three 7* R3s without ranking any 6* champs, the game would immediately award you TB, then Paragon, then Valiant, in succession. To put it another way, the requirements for Thronebreaker are complete Act 6 and have one 6R3 OR complete any of the requirements for any higher title, and every other title does the same thing. Do this, OR do ANYTHING HIGHER.

However, I do not believe anyone has actually attempted this yet, so there's what the developers believe the game engine will do, and then there's what the game engine actually does. So I'm curious to see when someone tries this. It is not a question of if, but when. This seems like a hard thing today, but one day this will actually be *easier* than going through all the other titles, because there will come a time when players jump directly to ranking 7s in the same way players today skip over 5* champs to rank 6s and 7s.

WayWorn2525

Definitely like to see someone test this out, and if someone does it sucessfully, then I must be doing something wrong.

Pikolu

Someone should try this

Someone is already working on this, unfortunately as a ftp, it is impossible until 9.1 comes out because you can't do Necro or SoS without Paragon

SummonerNR

Thx DNA, insightful.

In broader terms (even without the 6* vs 7* requirements), someone now could be jumping up 2+ levels all at once now as soon as this change hits.

And question would be (which DNA answered), whether it ONLY “instantly” jumps you to your TOP Progression now (bypassing all the other Titles, etc, inbetween).
Or whether it INCREMENTALLY advances you 1 step at a time (bak-2-bak, etc) (Title and all) over the 2 or 3 levels that you now qualify for.

Sounds like you will be credited with getting EVERY step along the way.

Potentially even all the way from Conqueror (or Proven) all the way to TB (for those that really didn’t like doing any of the ACT quests).

(sort of ironic that I just recently started getting back to my next ACT, that I haven’t touched in a while, and now I don’t need to, lol)

SummonerNR

For reference..

Badah

This looks like a new challenge to @Cantona59 …

Cantona59

This looks like a new challenge to @Cantona59 …

This sounds absolutely brutal 😅
I’m intrigued

SummonerNR

This looks like a new challenge to @Cantona59 …
This sounds absolutely brutal 😅
I’m intrigued

Challenger (beginner) to TB, without touching ACT-2. (yes, “ACT”, not Book) 😀

Would miss out on a lot of Units, and Summoner Levels, Mastery, etc.

By next Wed. or Thurs. so that it is in a single jump once this takes effect.

*** Or at least do Challenger to Conqueror (5x of 5* r3)

DNA3000

For reference..

I was wondering what I should do with this little brainstorm, so I'm just going to post it here for posterity.

I slept through the livestream so I'm still catching up on everything, but I did see the new progression table because its making the rounds. As soon as I saw it I had a flash of insight, where I could see where this was all going, and I'm going to make a prediction.

Sometime in the next year or so, Kabam is going to announce that players will be allowed to start Story in Book 2, without having to fully complete Book 1, if they are high enough in progression tier.

I think this is both inevitable, and solves a ton of problems. But I thought I would put my game design prognosticating hat to the test. I'm often saying things were obvious in retrospect, I should occasionally try to say when things seem obvious before they happen. And if I'm totally wrong, well that would also be worth a few laughs.

Sunstar19

For reference..

I was wondering what I should do with this little brainstorm, so I'm just going to post it here for posterity.

I slept through the livestream so I'm still catching up on everything, but I did see the new progression table because its making the rounds. As soon as I saw it I had a flash of insight, where I could see where this was all going, and I'm going to make a prediction.

Sometime in the next year or so, Kabam is going to announce that players will be allowed to start Story in Book 2, without having to fully complete Book 1, if they are high enough in progression tier.

I think this is both inevitable, and solves a ton of problems. But I thought I would put my game design prognosticating hat to the test. I'm often saying things were obvious in retrospect, I should occasionally try to say when things seem obvious before they happen. And if I'm totally wrong, well that would also be worth a few laughs.

I’m not sure if allowing people to skip old chapters and jump to new ones will be beneficial to the community. I progressed through the chapters and their increasing levels of difficulty helped me learn the game. Allowing people to jump ahead may result in more posts about frustration in not able to complete a certain tough quest.

dee_jay5

For reference..

I'm not in favor of the new alternative way to get progression title.

SummonerNR

Sorry, gonna have to save image without the person on side of pic. (was that Miike ?? , didn’t look like Jax)

GrO_ot78

In theory 💯

Would I recommend 100% act 8 and 1 necro run with 5/65s and R3s...no 😅

Cantona59

If 9.1 releases with a 2-3 gem (which I think is very possible looking at the past), I would probably attempt this as a challenge even if the game does override it and give you all the progression levels

MarvelNoob

In theory 💯

Would I recommend 100% act 8 and 1 necro run with 5/65s and R3s...no 😅

You need to be paragon for necro so that wouldn't work

klobberintyme

Sorry, gonna have to save image without the person on side of pic. (was that Miike ?? , didn’t look like Jax)

This is Miike:

Not to be confused with Otto in A Fish Called Wanda: