Sagas Incursion - difficulty, frustration, etc...

kikiFurieux · May 14

Dear Kabam,
Please acknowledge the situation regarding Sagas Incursions as lots of people are complaining about it.
Potions and revives are too expensive, the reduced pool of champs and ridiculous nodes forcing you to heal up (like Aspect of Nightmare) or to take damage no matter what are increasing difficulty like crazy.
Sure we have multiple attempts possible, thanks to the 5 min timer but that doesn't prevent you from getting deep into a run, like room 12 for example and end up in a situation where you have to quit.
This is very frustrating. You get nothing if you try again since you already got the room rewards (until you reach a room you didn't clear previously) so you're time isn't valued at all, you feel you played for nothing (not a good feeling...).

I feel it would be alleviated if some nodes (like the one I mentioned) would be removed or if you add the potions and revives in the store (for another currency than units, or drop their price drastically) or if you put the NC tokens in the first 10 rooms.
People play those incursions for the NC tokens (at least I do) and I know I will be done with it as soon as I get them (if on my run I can continue then sure I'll continue but then I won't do another attempt).
Thanks in advance

captain_rogers · May 14

Not even the deathless pieces are this tough to get. Except maybe the necro one. but again, necro piece is permanent

Chuck_Finley · May 14

[Insert “this content just isn’t for you then” comment.]

If it feels like we get that a lot nowadays with new content, you aren’t wrong. But hey, the average player can go play arenas if you want something to do I guess…

BloodyCruelty · May 14

@kikiFurieux Use Bullseye with Prowess, Crit rate, crit damage, Powersting and Power mods. You can also use Domino with crit and power mods. I used Domino Bullseye and CG/CGR. This can be done Itemless. Otherwise this is not the right content for you

Squammo · May 14

Would have loved to see an item store where we could trade in mysterium for revives and potions.

ReignkingTW · May 14

BloodyCruelty said:
@kikiFurieux Use Bullseye with Prowess, Crit rate, crit damage, Powersting and Power mods. You can also use Domino with crit and power mods. I used Domino Bullseye and CG/CGR. This can be done Itemless. Otherwise this is not the right content for you

Because everyone should have bullseye already?

kikiFurieux · May 14

Well, this is one of the problems. The pool of champs is already restricted but on top of that only a very few will work, providing you get the mods you want and not get any node combination that is too deadly...
So you have to try and try again until you get all the stars aligned?

jaymania82 · May 14

@Kabam Miike I agree with kikiFurieux I have tried doing saga incursions and get stuck either room 10 or 11 wiith crazy nodes. My only frustration is the rune stones are attach to higher rooms. Is it suppose to be this hard? I have posted on the forums myself but no one from kabam seems to want to acknowledge anyone so it seems.

Bugmat78 · May 14

Yeah it isn't fun. I've tried twice so far - Room 15 then room 13. Not fun getting 600 gold per already completed room on the 2d attempt! I'll give ti a few more goes, but the champion pool is the worst part.

Would be nice if they did it like AW and give bonuses for using saga champs vs restricting it to only using them.

jaymania82 · May 14

I feel kabam might think since msd, lags and other high end players can do it with those mods that everyone should be able too. I wish the runestones were not so high up in the rooms. I am more then ok with the bigger rewards being in the end, but not the runestones.

Jeancrb · May 14

It is such a waste of time. Climbing to zone 14 for 1 hour, having an impossible node combo, rinse and repeat. After my 4th attempt I'm done, I wasted too much time already and I don't wanna throw my units away. I had more fun doing the Karatemike challenge, that says a lot.

The_Curd_Bros · May 14

It seems like rooms 12-14 are a stopping point for most rosters. I have only done one run, but ran into a boss on 14 that was just not possible without the perfect combination of characters and hacks and even then it would be tough for 95% of players. With the incursion revives and heals being so expensive that is just a stopping point for most players. It's definitely doable if you are a top player, but I would hazard a guess that only the top 10% of players with the best rosters can finish sector 7. It's meant to be the hardest incursion so I am personally ok with that, but I can see how it can be super frustrating. The rich get richer.

jaymania82 · May 14

@kabamjax @Kabam Miike why the radio silence since the came out? we are not being rude and would like some imput?

Matty_Ice · May 14

NC looks cool, but not worth it. I hope the trade in value is good for all my extra tokens.

Giantwalrus56 · May 14

Personally, I think what's bringing most of the frustration is, not only are incursions highly reliant on RNG, but also a few of the best champions to clear aren't fully available to everyone yet. Sure, there are ways to work around that, but again you're at the real mercy of RNG. Add in the ridiculous price of revives & potions & imo, it's just not worth it...

Standardman1989 · May 14

I tried a lot of things like : kingpin 6r5 as, Elsa 7r3, kushala 6r5 as, iceman 6r5 ascen I went to room 12, I'm giving up, too bad for the nightwrawler 7* I'll miss 8 points.

Karatemike415 · May 14

Jeancrb said:
I had more fun doing the Karatemike challenge, that says a lot.

Yeah cause it was fun 🎉🐻🎉

Trek26 · May 15

I had more fun doing fins animal instinct challenge

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Polygon · May 15

Damn, was hoping we'd at least see a response

Squirrelguy · May 15

I don't really see how this is different than any other thread/complaint about incursions except for the limited champion pool, which is compensated for by better rewards. Kabam even took our some of the RNG annoyance by allowing you a full list of boss hacks to choose from so you could guarantee at least a base level of strategy going in. I'm not saying it's easy, or some crazy node combos haven't made me restart a time or two, but that's mostly because I get lazy around rooms 10-15 when things start getting hard and forget to look at every defender node.

Here are some tips if you consistently get frustrated in incursions (esp. saga incursions):

Be aware of nodes (like aspect of ____ that gives you a 25-50% health loss over 10 seconds before healing you back up. You can plan for this in several ways by: focusing on champs that can regen/stay at high health easily, always try to keep at least one champ in reserve with high health, bring a champ that can avoid damage/death for enough time to get you free healing (think Serpent's ability when he builds charges, or Fury's LMD), pick a different path, or swap out for a champion that can handle it.
ALWAYS read every node and look for the easiest path. It doesn't matter if you take the "revive a champ" path if you then face a defender that you can't beat.
Don't be afraid to swap a champ, or to "ruin" a good team setup to bring in a boss counter. You can pick a different path, but you have to have an answer for the boss or the best mastery/hack/team setup will do you no good. Maybe you'll find an incursions monster just from having swapped out someone you see as niche or mid in other game modes.
Don't stress out. Besides the fact that it often makes you play worse, it isn't worth it. Sure, these are the best incursions rewards you can get..... in a mobile videogame that is constantly progressing and offering new and different ways to enjoy playing it. Missing out on NC is not the end of the world. Not completing every piece of content is okay. Sometimes, hard content is made to be hard even for the top eschelon of players. Not everyone should find it easy. Incursions amps up the RNG aspect of the contest to 11, which is the entire point. You're not a failure if it catches you off-guard and you have to start over, or use a single (or 10) revives.

Overall, I feel like this isn't at all an unreasonable event, but there are certainly some frustrating and challenging aspects to it. If you want advice on how to beat it though, just ask. The more info you give and direct questions you ask, the better you will be prepared to face those challenges next time.

This has been SquirrelGuy, and thanks for coming to my ~~Ted~~ MCOC talk.

Trek26 · May 15

Polygon said:
Damn, was hoping we'd at least see a response

It's the middle of the week, kabam doesn't respond at this time.

Sagas Incursion - difficulty, frustration, etc...

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