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Deep Dive: The Leader
EdisonLaw
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What is that 66k degen damage and you can get more with that 3 indefinite degen passive
1) His damage seems to be lacking and not fast at all. He will be a terrible option for Battlegrounds offense.
2) His utility is neat, basically just a buffed up Sandman with his regen & power control.
3) Correct me if I am wrong but the masteries being disabled is a good thing here right? It stops the attacker from taking damage when their willpower regen would be reversed? Maybe I am missing something.
Overall he looks like a more complicated and difficult to manage version of Sandman while also not countering Unstoppable like Sandman and having less damage than Sandman. Also he is not a cool Spider-man villain like me or Sandman.
It's a shame power dissolve only works when ability power is reduced to zero. He can't deal power dissolve damage to serpent.
Honestly I expected some way for him to place regen and power gain effects on opponent and reverse them. Really a missed opportunity.
He looks ugly
Your first point is totally wrong in bg he will probably a nuke with the sp3 rotation when you will use sp3 opponent would probably lost so much hp because of willpower reverse
Your second point is right
Your third point is also right
Your last words are also wrong he is not that difficult to use just need to keep opponent above the green door and FYI sandman counters unstoppable with the sp2 decelerate debuff
I know Sandman counters unstoppable. That's what I meant with the final part.
As for the wp mastery getting shut down and purify/cleanse not working I don't really care, he doesn't seem like an overpowered defender anyways. I just wanna know how fast he will be in BGs.
As for defense, exactly this. He looks a little annoying for sure, but nothing too difficult. I wish people looked at the context of the mastery being shut down. Here, it’s a good thing because if you ran champs with WP against him otherwise, he’d kill you so fast lmao
Leader might be slightly quicker since he shuts down MD completely but I doubt he'll be fast enough even then, we'll see though.
Yeah it's funny that people are already complaining about WP being shut down lol you block a couple sp1s you casually start melting and his specials look hard to dex so this is definitely better.
Take a beat, y’all. Once content creators start actually playing them and we start seeing where they fit, then we’ll have enough information to begin forming opinions. Right now we can see a bunch of individual parts, but not necessarily the whole pictures.
So I am guessing in many scenarios you don't even need to go for sp3
But my worry is one mistake of pushing him to sp3 and you are dead lol 💀
If you don't remove Despair you will have 20 debuffs on them during most of the fight and because Despair is already shutting down WP 100% you won't be reversing any healing except when the vitality passive is up but it's only 25% potency you will probably be better of going for sp3 than spamming sp1 at that point.
I could be wrong though, it's very hard to tell if he'll be good or not cause a lot of masteries interact with his kit and it makes everything very confusing.