I Think Northstar Needs a Buff

But I don’t know what that buff should be. What do you think?

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Haven't played him haven't versed him, but quite frankly if he isn't the most broken speedster in the game something is wrong.

A snippet from x factor

Usagicassidy

Love Leah Williams' X-Factor, so thanks for that!

JLordVileJ

FYI that is speed northstar is talking too, QUICKSILVERS NEPHEW. WHO HAS THE SAME POWERS AS HIS UNCLE. Yep. Thats how fast northstar is.

JLordVileJ

Finished reading x factor yesterday, reading all krakoa books in order. X factor was really good. Next up is x force #15 to 26 but I think my online library system only has #15 to 20 so ill have to skip a bit out. Then its xmen 2021 #1 to 9,then children of the atom etc etc.

FYI, if you live in London (and I think Essex as well) there is something called the London Libraries Consortium on Overdrive online. You can also access it on the app libby. The London libraries consortium is owned by all the boroughs in London. So it has a lot of money. So it has a lot of books. And by that I mean ALL the books. Like legit nearly every book, comic and manga you could think of. It has audiobooks too. So if you live in London check it out.

Emilia90

He hits hard in Everest content but needs to ramp every fight. Not sure what a buff for him would look like but I don’t think they’d ever make him good for BG or something

Colinwhitworth69

You say he needs a buff but you don't know why?

Jethua

To add: i have a 7*. I love north star and think he is great. However, something is really missing. He just neeeds to like be able to carry over some of his ramp, or he needs for front loaded or backloaded damage because something is just not working.

JLordVileJ

Finished reading x factor yesterday, reading all krakoa books in order. X factor was really good. Next up is x force #15 to 26 but I think my online library system only has #15 to 20 so ill have to skip a bit out. Then its xmen 2021 #1 to 9,then children of the atom etc etc.

FYI, if you live in London (and I think Essex as well) there is something called the London Libraries Consortium on Overdrive online. You can also access it on the app libby. The London libraries consortium is owned by all the boroughs in London. So it has a lot of money. So it has a lot of books. And by that I mean ALL the books. Like legit nearly every book, comic and manga you could think of. It has audiobooks too. So if you live in London check it out.

And check if there is a separate overdrive online library in your area if you don't live in London

NONYABIZZ

Most champs released this year need one but I don't think he's as NEEDING as the champs that NEED it.
He was designed for Everest content, he doesn't do it the best but he can do it. I think that's what they were aiming for in the first place. If his damage was pathetic for example or inconsistent for what he was designed for, then he would definitely need one.
Basically he's less terrible than the other champs who NEED some kind of tune up and we know that's good enough for kabam.
He's not getting touched

Harryatomix

Most champs released this year need one but I don't think he's as NEEDING as the champs that NEED it.
He was designed for Everest content, he doesn't do it the best but he can do it. I think that's what they were aiming for in the first place. If his damage was pathetic for example or inconsistent for what he was designed for, then he would definitely need one.
Basically he's less terrible than the other champs who NEED some kind of tune up and we know that's good enough for kabam.
He's not getting touched

He has offense rating of 4.5/5. With that high rating and him being everest should mean he should be faster than any other champ in game for everest, which he is not. He needs faster ramp and start with some momentum in bgs.

ShiroMikazuki

If he was from the south he’d be called southstar 🤔

Chief_Wiggum

Been trying to love my 7* , took him for two fights in the crucible.

I like his kit on paper but i find it very difficult to make him work when a few nodes are in play. Not totally a fan of the variable timing of stuff in his kit like slow.. its 10s to start but add 2s per momentum.. just make it 15 to 18s and be done with it.. easier to manage.

Didn't really make a difference in these fights but carry over of momentum would be logical and helpful for long form content.

I do wish he had some uses short form in BG. We should be able to ramp up momentum "quickly" for fast rotations as befitting a speedster.. and let it fall off quicker (Sp2/sp1s). Have a long form rotation using SP3 with higher ceiling which you can maintain for very long/indefinite periods using SP3s between sp1s.

He's fun to play but ultimately for me very unsatisfying at the moment unless you get everything right in the node combos you want him to work on.

SecondSkriller

Extremely lackluster champion that I hope to not pull, it’s kinda crazy that he’s not even broken in everest content…

EdisonLaw

He’s the worst new addition to the titan, because he has almost no use for players who have completed necro already, being nearly useless in BGs because he requires a ramp up, plus other Killmonger counters are faster than him.
Arcade at least can be an ok defender and has some utility, Patriot is alright but needs the dupe and sigs, Leader can reverse power gain and regeneration very well so he’s good for meta mystic and power gain defenders

ThatGuyYouSaw235

Having pulled him from the titan and now owning him at r2. I'd say Northstar has great damage, but suffers for a lack of speed. That being said, there shouldn't be too much to tune in order to elevate him a bit.

Even though Northstar was designed for long fights, you can tune him for shorter fights by launching an SP2 near power to cash in on the speed burst and you'd be able to throw in two SP1s to KO the opponent. The problem is that it feels slow and you'll need the AI to co-operate with an intercept so that the SP2 can trigger Speed Burst.

I'd honestly suggest just giving Northstar a slight say +7.5% - +10% Power Rate boost when he doesn't have his Speed Burst. This will round off Northstar in both short and long fights as he'll be able to reach his Specials faster when he's off of Speed Burst.

I'd also mention that allowing Northstar to trigger a Speed Burst via a Special Intercept will help him to make him feel more fluid and give him an easier way to trigger Speed Burst.

EdisonLaw

Having pulled him from the titan and now owning him at r2. I'd say Northstar has great damage, but suffers for a lack of speed. That being said, there shouldn't be too much to tune in order to elevate him a bit.

Even though Northstar was designed for long fights, you can tune him for shorter fights by launching an SP2 near power to cash in on the speed burst and you'd be able to throw in two SP1s to KO the opponent. The problem is that it feels slow and you'll need the AI to co-operate with an intercept so that the SP2 can trigger Speed Burst.

I'd honestly suggest just giving Northstar a slight say +7.5% - +10% Power Rate boost when he doesn't have his Speed Burst. This will round off Northstar in both short and long fights as he'll be able to reach his Specials faster when he's off of Speed Burst.

I'd also mention that allowing Northstar to trigger a Speed Burst via a Special Intercept will help him to make him feel more fluid and give him an easier way to trigger Speed Burst.

Also he kinda needs to have persistent charges, otherwise you have to ramp him over and over again

EdisonLaw

Been trying to love my 7* , took him for two fights in the crucible.

I like his kit on paper but i find it very difficult to make him work when a few nodes are in play. Not totally a fan of the variable timing of stuff in his kit like slow.. its 10s to start but add 2s per momentum.. just make it 15 to 18s and be done with it.. easier to manage.

Didn't really make a difference in these fights but carry over of momentum would be logical and helpful for long form content.

I do wish he had some uses short form in BG. We should be able to ramp up momentum "quickly" for fast rotations as befitting a speedster.. and let it fall off quicker (Sp2/sp1s). Have a long form rotation using SP3 with higher ceiling which you can maintain for very long/indefinite periods using SP3s between sp1s.

He's fun to play but ultimately for me very unsatisfying at the moment unless you get everything right in the node combos you want him to work on.

Maybe he should start with some reverb or prowess in BGs. I don’t understand why champs like Spider Punk and Serpent have bonuses in BGs while Northstar does not.

ThatGuyYouSaw235

Having pulled him from the titan and now owning him at r2. I'd say Northstar has great damage, but suffers for a lack of speed. That being said, there shouldn't be too much to tune in order to elevate him a bit.

Even though Northstar was designed for long fights, you can tune him for shorter fights by launching an SP2 near power to cash in on the speed burst and you'd be able to throw in two SP1s to KO the opponent. The problem is that it feels slow and you'll need the AI to co-operate with an intercept so that the SP2 can trigger Speed Burst.

I'd honestly suggest just giving Northstar a slight say +7.5% - +10% Power Rate boost when he doesn't have his Speed Burst. This will round off Northstar in both short and long fights as he'll be able to reach his Specials faster when he's off of Speed Burst.

I'd also mention that allowing Northstar to trigger a Speed Burst via a Special Intercept will help him to make him feel more fluid and give him an easier way to trigger Speed Burst.
Also he kinda needs to have persistent charges, otherwise you have to ramp him over and over again

He wouldn't need Persistent Momentum if you ask me. He's not designed to be a new Aegon or Stryfe, he's closer to Guillotine 2099. I'd rather suggest a bonus in the following fight based on how many Momentum charges he ended the last fight with as a Cross-Fight ability. Say...

When completing a fight, Northstar places a Cross-Fight Speed Boost on himself for each Momentum Charge he ended the fight with. When entering another fight, Northstar consumes all of his Speed Boosts to reduce the cooldown of Speed Burst by 1.2 seconds and gain 2.2% (or something similar) of his max power for each Speed Boost charge.

Giving him persistent Momentum would make Northstar very broken considering he has bonkers damage when he is fully ramped up, if they were to do it I'd predict they'd have to slightly nerf Momentum or split the Momentum bonuses over more charges.

EdisonLaw

Having pulled him from the titan and now owning him at r2. I'd say Northstar has great damage, but suffers for a lack of speed. That being said, there shouldn't be too much to tune in order to elevate him a bit.

Even though Northstar was designed for long fights, you can tune him for shorter fights by launching an SP2 near power to cash in on the speed burst and you'd be able to throw in two SP1s to KO the opponent. The problem is that it feels slow and you'll need the AI to co-operate with an intercept so that the SP2 can trigger Speed Burst.

I'd honestly suggest just giving Northstar a slight say +7.5% - +10% Power Rate boost when he doesn't have his Speed Burst. This will round off Northstar in both short and long fights as he'll be able to reach his Specials faster when he's off of Speed Burst.

I'd also mention that allowing Northstar to trigger a Speed Burst via a Special Intercept will help him to make him feel more fluid and give him an easier way to trigger Speed Burst.
Also he kinda needs to have persistent charges, otherwise you have to ramp him over and over again
He wouldn't need Persistent Momentum if you ask me. He's not designed to be a new Aegon or Stryfe, he's closer to Guillotine 2099. I'd rather suggest a bonus in the following fight based on how many Momentum charges he ended the last fight with as a Cross-Fight ability. Say...

When completing a fight, Northstar places a Cross-Fight Speed Boost on himself for each Momentum Charge he ended the fight with. When entering another fight, Northstar consumes all of his Speed Boosts to reduce the cooldown of Speed Burst by 1.2 seconds and gain 2.2% (or something similar) of his max power for each Speed Boost charge.

Giving him persistent Momentum would make Northstar very broken considering he has bonkers damage when he is fully ramped up, if they were to do it I'd predict they'd have to slightly nerf Momentum or split the Momentum bonuses over more charges.

Yeah something closer to that where he speeds up his ramp each time he wins a fight.

Nightheart

I don't have him so can't comment on this but he's meant for long form content I think he could be tuned to also be decent on short fights as well

Jethua

Is it possible that he is not very good for long form content either? I mean, he is only ok at best. Adam warlock does it better than him sometimes

Polygon

Dont all the champs from 2024 need a buff lmao

EdisonLaw

Dont all the champs from 2024 need a buff lmao

#NerfSerpentDontBuffHim

Vegeta9001

He's a long fight character, the only "buff" they could give him is shortening his ramp up, or giving him a partial carry over between fights. Even long fights he's only like a 7.5/10 fully ramped up, but not every champ can be a 10.

WednesdayLength

Most champs released this year need one but I don't think he's as NEEDING as the champs that NEED it.
He was designed for Everest content, he doesn't do it the best but he can do it. I think that's what they were aiming for in the first place. If his damage was pathetic for example or inconsistent for what he was designed for, then he would definitely need one.
Basically he's less terrible than the other champs who NEED some kind of tune up and we know that's good enough for kabam.
He's not getting touched
He has offense rating of 4.5/5. With that high rating and him being everest should mean he should be faster than any other champ in game for everest, which he is not. He needs faster ramp and start with some momentum in bgs.

That's absolutely not what the 4.5 rating means

bhuv9191

But I don’t know what that buff should be. What do you think?

what??

we have NORTHSTAR in champions list??

damn, never knwon of!!

NONYABIZZ

Been trying to love my 7* , took him for two fights in the crucible.

I like his kit on paper but i find it very difficult to make him work when a few nodes are in play. Not totally a fan of the variable timing of stuff in his kit like slow.. its 10s to start but add 2s per momentum.. just make it 15 to 18s and be done with it.. easier to manage.

Didn't really make a difference in these fights but carry over of momentum would be logical and helpful for long form content.

I do wish he had some uses short form in BG. We should be able to ramp up momentum "quickly" for fast rotations as befitting a speedster.. and let it fall off quicker (Sp2/sp1s). Have a long form rotation using SP3 with higher ceiling which you can maintain for very long/indefinite periods using SP3s between sp1s.

He's fun to play but ultimately for me very unsatisfying at the moment unless you get everything right in the node combos you want him to work on.
Maybe he should start with some reverb or prowess in BGs. I don’t understand why champs like Spider Punk and Serpent have bonuses in BGs while Northstar does not.

Because he wasn't designed for battlegrounds
Do y'all even listen to the Livestream when they talk about "The AIMS of the new champions"
Northstar was not designed to be a battlegrounds champion and that's totally okay.
Y'all need to let the must be a BG champ down a lil bit. They've stated SEVERALLY that he is not supposed to be used in battlegrounds. This isn't applicable to the rest of the mid attackers this year and I'm not excusing kabam for lackluster BG champs, just specifically him.

WednesdayLength

He's not the best fit battlegrounds, but his damage is absurd in longer fights which he was designed for. They didn't buff corvus because he's only good for the first 20 hits in a fight lmao

WednesdayLength

Is it possible that he is not very good for long form content either? I mean, he is only ok at best. Adam warlock does it better than him sometimes

Have you seen the damage he can churn out?

WednesdayLength

Having pulled him from the titan and now owning him at r2. I'd say Northstar has great damage, but suffers for a lack of speed. That being said, there shouldn't be too much to tune in order to elevate him a bit.

Even though Northstar was designed for long fights, you can tune him for shorter fights by launching an SP2 near power to cash in on the speed burst and you'd be able to throw in two SP1s to KO the opponent. The problem is that it feels slow and you'll need the AI to co-operate with an intercept so that the SP2 can trigger Speed Burst.

I'd honestly suggest just giving Northstar a slight say +7.5% - +10% Power Rate boost when he doesn't have his Speed Burst. This will round off Northstar in both short and long fights as he'll be able to reach his Specials faster when he's off of Speed Burst.

I'd also mention that allowing Northstar to trigger a Speed Burst via a Special Intercept will help him to make him feel more fluid and give him an easier way to trigger Speed Burst.
Also he kinda needs to have persistent charges, otherwise you have to ramp him over and over again

Not every champion needs persistent charges