Best Science Attacker?

Since Titanias fallen off the face of the planet with the AI issues, it's come down to these 3.

In regards to who can take the most matchups or is the fastest on attack in BGs.

Some issues each have:
Hulk : bit reliant on RNG on the furies to get gamma before the sp2 and crit reliant on the sp2
Silk: Bit Crit Reliant on the sp2 (may not matter as much if r3)
Pig: AI cooperation for poppers not to fall off before they throw special, RNG reliant for poppers

Comments

xLunatiXx

Don't know about the other 2 specific order but R3 pig is my #1 by far

Funk

Pig>Hulk>Titania>Silk for me

captain_rogers

It's either pig silk hulk, or pig hulk silk. But it's no doubt pig is the best science 7*. For a long time people slept on him it's nice to see finally people are recognising his power level.

13579rebel_

Scorpion > Everyone else obviously

M0NKEYNUTS

I totally misread the greater than sign. My mind went straight to arrows. I misvoted.

BeastDad

Scorpion > Everyone else obviously

If he drops as a 7*, you bet.

Emilia90

Hulk usually gets the furies before the sp3 and the trauma burst after kills everything even if the sp2 doesn’t crit. All great attackers but I also hate pig lmao

Gyanemdjer

Imo hulk is the best attacker, and idk why it feels wierd playing silk so put her at 3

captain_rogers

Scorpion > Everyone else obviously

That's why kabam is afraid to release him as 7*🗣️

captain_rogers

Also it's worth mentioning hulk's lazy playstyle is really safe sometimes, just launch a sp1 and keep hitting. So by ease of use hulk is best.

PT_99

Pig is also the better defender by mile and is such a stall if you get porker popper (which you will because he can't stop evading)

Polygon

Pig is also the better defender by mile and is such a stall if you get porker popper (which you will because he can't stop evading)

Yeah hes the clear dual threat winner but if hes also the best attacker that would be pretty busted

captain_rogers

Pig is also the better defender by mile and is such a stall if you get porker popper (which you will because he can't stop evading)
Yeah hes the clear dual threat winner but if hes also the best attacker that would be pretty busted

He can take almost every mystic faster than the other two, and he is generally faster since he does direct damage while other two deals physical damage, which is affected by armor and resistances.

Cloudddey_bro

I don’t know who’s 2 or 3 but ham is definitely number 1. Nobody is immune to power sting damage and his infinite pause through sp1 is op

Emilia90

Pig is also the better defender by mile and is such a stall if you get porker popper (which you will because he can't stop evading)
Yeah hes the clear dual threat winner but if hes also the best attacker that would be pretty busted
He can take almost every mystic faster than the other two, and he is generally faster since he does direct damage while other two deals physical damage, which is affected by armor and resistances.

Outside of the mystic class, I’d say it’s much closer though. If we’re looking at recent defenders, none of the 3 here are great for most of them (other than Onslaught which hulk and silk >> pig). In upper bg it’s mostly just Bullseye, Onslaught, Serpent, Photon, and Dust spamming and Silk and Hulk end up doing better against most of them than Pig. You can’t parry photon or onslaught to get poppers, serpent reduces burst too much, etc

In mystic fights, I’d say that Pig wins though the others put up solid times. Sassy and Kindred are especially great matches that you do see in bg other than the ones above and he does have more defensive value than both

jcphillips7

A truly divisive poll!

NONYABIZZ

I don't know where the pig better than silk argument came from and don't know where the silk being crit reliant came from as mine crits way too often even against rintrah and doom. The Sp2 is very reliable as the burst damage on it is fixed regardless of crit or not. The Sp2 may not always finish the opponent but the base hit damage is more than enough to make her very reliable and mine is only r5.

captain_rogers

Pig is also the better defender by mile and is such a stall if you get porker popper (which you will because he can't stop evading)
Yeah hes the clear dual threat winner but if hes also the best attacker that would be pretty busted
He can take almost every mystic faster than the other two, and he is generally faster since he does direct damage while other two deals physical damage, which is affected by armor and resistances.
Outside of the mystic class, I’d say it’s much closer though. If we’re looking at recent defenders, none of the 3 here are great for most of them (other than Onslaught which hulk and silk >> pig). In upper bg it’s mostly just Bullseye, Onslaught, Serpent, Photon, and Dust spamming and Silk and Hulk end up doing better against most of them than Pig. You can’t parry photon or onslaught to get poppers, serpent reduces burst too much, etc

In mystic fights, I’d say that Pig wins though the others put up solid times. Sassy and Kindred are especially great matches that you do see in bg other than the ones above and he does have more defensive value than both

There's a trick for ham to take onslaught pretty fast. The stuns doesn't matter since you already have 50% base chance which is still pretty good. With ham you can actually save time by tanking onslaught sp2 instead of baiting sp1. The sp2 converts neuroshocks into degen from which ham takes no damage, so you can just push him to sp2 and block it. Works for me everytime.

Also silk is great counter for photon. A little slow, but you can finish at 95% health easily.

ChiefGoat

Titania

Cloudddey_bro

Pig is also the better defender by mile and is such a stall if you get porker popper (which you will because he can't stop evading)
Yeah hes the clear dual threat winner but if hes also the best attacker that would be pretty busted
He can take almost every mystic faster than the other two, and he is generally faster since he does direct damage while other two deals physical damage, which is affected by armor and resistances.
Outside of the mystic class, I’d say it’s much closer though. If we’re looking at recent defenders, none of the 3 here are great for most of them (other than Onslaught which hulk and silk >> pig). In upper bg it’s mostly just Bullseye, Onslaught, Serpent, Photon, and Dust spamming and Silk and Hulk end up doing better against most of them than Pig. You can’t parry photon or onslaught to get poppers, serpent reduces burst too much, etc

In mystic fights, I’d say that Pig wins though the others put up solid times. Sassy and Kindred are especially great matches that you do see in bg other than the ones above and he does have more defensive value than both
There's a trick for ham to take onslaught pretty fast. The stuns doesn't matter since you already have 50% base chance which is still pretty good. With ham you can actually save time by tanking onslaught sp2 instead of baiting sp1. The sp2 converts neuroshocks into degen from which ham takes no damage, so you can just push him to sp2 and block it. Works for me everytime.

Also silk is great counter for photon. A little slow, but you can finish at 95% health easily.

Emilia90

Pig is also the better defender by mile and is such a stall if you get porker popper (which you will because he can't stop evading)
Yeah hes the clear dual threat winner but if hes also the best attacker that would be pretty busted
He can take almost every mystic faster than the other two, and he is generally faster since he does direct damage while other two deals physical damage, which is affected by armor and resistances.
Outside of the mystic class, I’d say it’s much closer though. If we’re looking at recent defenders, none of the 3 here are great for most of them (other than Onslaught which hulk and silk >> pig). In upper bg it’s mostly just Bullseye, Onslaught, Serpent, Photon, and Dust spamming and Silk and Hulk end up doing better against most of them than Pig. You can’t parry photon or onslaught to get poppers, serpent reduces burst too much, etc

In mystic fights, I’d say that Pig wins though the others put up solid times. Sassy and Kindred are especially great matches that you do see in bg other than the ones above and he does have more defensive value than both
There's a trick for ham to take onslaught pretty fast. The stuns doesn't matter since you already have 50% base chance which is still pretty good. With ham you can actually save time by tanking onslaught sp2 instead of baiting sp1. The sp2 converts neuroshocks into degen from which ham takes no damage, so you can just push him to sp2 and block it. Works for me everytime.

Also silk is great counter for photon. A little slow, but you can finish at 95% health easily.

Oh I know Ham can do Onslaught, I just think Hulk and Silk are more consistent and reliable for that fight than him. Between the auto evade and reliable burst Silk would probably hands down be the best

Yeah Silk can do photon ok. Definitely the best out of the 3 since Ham is really bad for her and Hulk would take some damage

captain_rogers

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Pig is also the better defender by mile and is such a stall if you get porker popper (which you will because he can't stop evading)
Yeah hes the clear dual threat winner but if hes also the best attacker that would be pretty busted
He can take almost every mystic faster than the other two, and he is generally faster since he does direct damage while other two deals physical damage, which is affected by armor and resistances.
Outside of the mystic class, I’d say it’s much closer though. If we’re looking at recent defenders, none of the 3 here are great for most of them (other than Onslaught which hulk and silk >> pig). In upper bg it’s mostly just Bullseye, Onslaught, Serpent, Photon, and Dust spamming and Silk and Hulk end up doing better against most of them than Pig. You can’t parry photon or onslaught to get poppers, serpent reduces burst too much, etc

In mystic fights, I’d say that Pig wins though the others put up solid times. Sassy and Kindred are especially great matches that you do see in bg other than the ones above and he does have more defensive value than both
There's a trick for ham to take onslaught pretty fast. The stuns doesn't matter since you already have 50% base chance which is still pretty good. With ham you can actually save time by tanking onslaught sp2 instead of baiting sp1. The sp2 converts neuroshocks into degen from which ham takes no damage, so you can just push him to sp2 and block it. Works for me everytime.

Also silk is great counter for photon. A little slow, but you can finish at 95% health easily.

I recommend practicing onslaughts sp2 dex, it’s really not that bad. The beam is especially not bad at all kinda like Havoks sp2 beam, it will save you a lot of time when onslaught ai refuses to throw sp1

His sp2 is easy to dex except for the reverse controls, I'll block the first hit usually and dex the rest.

smdam38

I sooo want a Silk.
Is she amazing?

Polygon

Titania

If they fixed the AI issue or gave her special lock , there would be no need to even have a poll as she'd be the clear cut winner

StuntzTheCMMKid

Titania
If they fixed the AI issue or gave her special lock , there would be no need to even have a poll as she'd be the clear cut winner

Wha's going on with her?

Polygon

Titania
If they fixed the AI issue or gave her special lock , there would be no need to even have a poll as she'd be the clear cut winner
Wha's going on with her?

Her intimidate debuffs are basically being ignored by the AI so when you go for the heavy haymaker into sp3 , they still end up using their specials which makes you lose the fight to time. Unfortunate because she was 1 of the best overall attackers in BGs

Polygon

Was not expecting such a dominant lead for Hulk over the other 2 ngl