Best Science Attacker?

PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,394 ★★★★★
in General Discussion
Since Titanias fallen off the face of the planet with the AI issues, it's come down to these 3.

In regards to who can take the most matchups or is the fastest on attack in BGs.

Some issues each have:
Hulk : bit reliant on RNG on the furies to get gamma before the sp2 and crit reliant on the sp2
Silk: Bit Crit Reliant on the sp2 (may not matter as much if r3)
Pig: AI cooperation for poppers not to fall off before they throw special, RNG reliant for poppers

Best Science Attacker? 123 votes

Hulk > Silk > Pig
27%
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Hulk > Pig > Silk
18%
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Silk > Hulk > Pig
15%
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Silk > Pig > Hulk
8%
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Pig > Silk > Hulk
12%
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Pig > Hulk > Silk
17%
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Comments

  • xLunatiXxxLunatiXx Member Posts: 1,399 ★★★★★
    Pig > Silk > Hulk
    Don't know about the other 2 specific order but R3 pig is my #1 by far
  • FunkFunk Member Posts: 89 ★
    Pig > Hulk > Silk
    Pig>Hulk>Titania>Silk for me
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 8,326 ★★★★★
    Pig > Silk > Hulk
    It's either pig silk hulk, or pig hulk silk. But it's no doubt pig is the best science 7*. For a long time people slept on him it's nice to see finally people are recognising his power level.
  • M0NKEYNUTSM0NKEYNUTS Member Posts: 216 ★★
    Pig > Silk > Hulk
    I totally misread the greater than sign. My mind went straight to arrows. I misvoted.
  • BeastDadBeastDad Member Posts: 1,806 ★★★★★
    Hulk > Silk > Pig
    13579rebel_ said:

    Scorpion > Everyone else obviously

    If he drops as a 7*, you bet.
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,381 ★★★★★
    Hulk > Pig > Silk
    Hulk usually gets the furies before the sp3 and the trauma burst after kills everything even if the sp2 doesn’t crit. All great attackers but I also hate pig lmao
  • GyanemdjerGyanemdjer Member Posts: 155 ★
    Hulk > Pig > Silk
    Imo hulk is the best attacker, and idk why it feels wierd playing silk so put her at 3
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 8,326 ★★★★★
    Pig > Silk > Hulk
    13579rebel_ said:

    Scorpion > Everyone else obviously

    That's why kabam is afraid to release him as 7*🗣️
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 8,326 ★★★★★
    Pig > Silk > Hulk
    Also it's worth mentioning hulk's lazy playstyle is really safe sometimes, just launch a sp1 and keep hitting. So by ease of use hulk is best.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,164 ★★★★★
    Pig > Hulk > Silk
    Pig is also the better defender by mile and is such a stall if you get porker popper (which you will because he can't stop evading)
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,394 ★★★★★
    PT_99 said:

    Pig is also the better defender by mile and is such a stall if you get porker popper (which you will because he can't stop evading)

    Yeah hes the clear dual threat winner but if hes also the best attacker that would be pretty busted
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 8,326 ★★★★★
    Pig > Silk > Hulk
    Polygon said:

    PT_99 said:

    Pig is also the better defender by mile and is such a stall if you get porker popper (which you will because he can't stop evading)

    Yeah hes the clear dual threat winner but if hes also the best attacker that would be pretty busted
    He can take almost every mystic faster than the other two, and he is generally faster since he does direct damage while other two deals physical damage, which is affected by armor and resistances.
  • Cloudddey_broCloudddey_bro Member Posts: 283 ★★★
    Pig > Hulk > Silk
    I don’t know who’s 2 or 3 but ham is definitely number 1. Nobody is immune to power sting damage and his infinite pause through sp1 is op
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,381 ★★★★★
    edited August 18
    Hulk > Pig > Silk
    captain_rogers said:

    Polygon said:

    PT_99 said:

    Pig is also the better defender by mile and is such a stall if you get porker popper (which you will because he can't stop evading)

    Yeah hes the clear dual threat winner but if hes also the best attacker that would be pretty busted
    He can take almost every mystic faster than the other two, and he is generally faster since he does direct damage while other two deals physical damage, which is affected by armor and resistances.
    Outside of the mystic class, I’d say it’s much closer though. If we’re looking at recent defenders, none of the 3 here are great for most of them (other than Onslaught which hulk and silk >> pig). In upper bg it’s mostly just Bullseye, Onslaught, Serpent, Photon, and Dust spamming and Silk and Hulk end up doing better against most of them than Pig. You can’t parry photon or onslaught to get poppers, serpent reduces burst too much, etc

    In mystic fights, I’d say that Pig wins though the others put up solid times. Sassy and Kindred are especially great matches that you do see in bg other than the ones above and he does have more defensive value than both
  • jcphillips7jcphillips7 Member Posts: 1,392 ★★★★
    Pig > Hulk > Silk
    A truly divisive poll!
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 479 ★★★
    Silk > Hulk > Pig
    I don't know where the pig better than silk argument came from and don't know where the silk being crit reliant came from as mine crits way too often even against rintrah and doom. The Sp2 is very reliable as the burst damage on it is fixed regardless of crit or not. The Sp2 may not always finish the opponent but the base hit damage is more than enough to make her very reliable and mine is only r5.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 8,326 ★★★★★
    Pig > Silk > Hulk
    Emilia90 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Polygon said:

    PT_99 said:

    Pig is also the better defender by mile and is such a stall if you get porker popper (which you will because he can't stop evading)

    Yeah hes the clear dual threat winner but if hes also the best attacker that would be pretty busted
    He can take almost every mystic faster than the other two, and he is generally faster since he does direct damage while other two deals physical damage, which is affected by armor and resistances.
    Outside of the mystic class, I’d say it’s much closer though. If we’re looking at recent defenders, none of the 3 here are great for most of them (other than Onslaught which hulk and silk >> pig). In upper bg it’s mostly just Bullseye, Onslaught, Serpent, Photon, and Dust spamming and Silk and Hulk end up doing better against most of them than Pig. You can’t parry photon or onslaught to get poppers, serpent reduces burst too much, etc

    In mystic fights, I’d say that Pig wins though the others put up solid times. Sassy and Kindred are especially great matches that you do see in bg other than the ones above and he does have more defensive value than both
    There's a trick for ham to take onslaught pretty fast. The stuns doesn't matter since you already have 50% base chance which is still pretty good. With ham you can actually save time by tanking onslaught sp2 instead of baiting sp1. The sp2 converts neuroshocks into degen from which ham takes no damage, so you can just push him to sp2 and block it. Works for me everytime.

    Also silk is great counter for photon. A little slow, but you can finish at 95% health easily.
  • ChiefGoatChiefGoat Member Posts: 159 ★★
    Titania
  • Cloudddey_broCloudddey_bro Member Posts: 283 ★★★
    Pig > Hulk > Silk
    captain_rogers said:

    Emilia90 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Polygon said:

    PT_99 said:

    Pig is also the better defender by mile and is such a stall if you get porker popper (which you will because he can't stop evading)

    Yeah hes the clear dual threat winner but if hes also the best attacker that would be pretty busted
    He can take almost every mystic faster than the other two, and he is generally faster since he does direct damage while other two deals physical damage, which is affected by armor and resistances.
    Outside of the mystic class, I’d say it’s much closer though. If we’re looking at recent defenders, none of the 3 here are great for most of them (other than Onslaught which hulk and silk >> pig). In upper bg it’s mostly just Bullseye, Onslaught, Serpent, Photon, and Dust spamming and Silk and Hulk end up doing better against most of them than Pig. You can’t parry photon or onslaught to get poppers, serpent reduces burst too much, etc

    In mystic fights, I’d say that Pig wins though the others put up solid times. Sassy and Kindred are especially great matches that you do see in bg other than the ones above and he does have more defensive value than both
    There's a trick for ham to take onslaught pretty fast. The stuns doesn't matter since you already have 50% base chance which is still pretty good. With ham you can actually save time by tanking onslaught sp2 instead of baiting sp1. The sp2 converts neuroshocks into degen from which ham takes no damage, so you can just push him to sp2 and block it. Works for me everytime.

    Also silk is great counter for photon. A little slow, but you can finish at 95% health easily.

    I recommend practicing onslaughts sp2 dex, it’s really not that bad. The beam is especially not bad at all kinda like Havoks sp2 beam, it will save you a lot of time when onslaught ai refuses to throw sp1
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,381 ★★★★★
    Hulk > Pig > Silk
    captain_rogers said:

    Emilia90 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Polygon said:

    PT_99 said:

    Pig is also the better defender by mile and is such a stall if you get porker popper (which you will because he can't stop evading)

    Yeah hes the clear dual threat winner but if hes also the best attacker that would be pretty busted
    He can take almost every mystic faster than the other two, and he is generally faster since he does direct damage while other two deals physical damage, which is affected by armor and resistances.
    Outside of the mystic class, I’d say it’s much closer though. If we’re looking at recent defenders, none of the 3 here are great for most of them (other than Onslaught which hulk and silk >> pig). In upper bg it’s mostly just Bullseye, Onslaught, Serpent, Photon, and Dust spamming and Silk and Hulk end up doing better against most of them than Pig. You can’t parry photon or onslaught to get poppers, serpent reduces burst too much, etc

    In mystic fights, I’d say that Pig wins though the others put up solid times. Sassy and Kindred are especially great matches that you do see in bg other than the ones above and he does have more defensive value than both
    There's a trick for ham to take onslaught pretty fast. The stuns doesn't matter since you already have 50% base chance which is still pretty good. With ham you can actually save time by tanking onslaught sp2 instead of baiting sp1. The sp2 converts neuroshocks into degen from which ham takes no damage, so you can just push him to sp2 and block it. Works for me everytime.

    Also silk is great counter for photon. A little slow, but you can finish at 95% health easily.
    Oh I know Ham can do Onslaught, I just think Hulk and Silk are more consistent and reliable for that fight than him. Between the auto evade and reliable burst Silk would probably hands down be the best

    Yeah Silk can do photon ok. Definitely the best out of the 3 since Ham is really bad for her and Hulk would take some damage
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 8,326 ★★★★★
    edited August 18
    Pig > Silk > Hulk
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    captain_rogers said:

    Emilia90 said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Polygon said:

    PT_99 said:

    Pig is also the better defender by mile and is such a stall if you get porker popper (which you will because he can't stop evading)

    Yeah hes the clear dual threat winner but if hes also the best attacker that would be pretty busted
    He can take almost every mystic faster than the other two, and he is generally faster since he does direct damage while other two deals physical damage, which is affected by armor and resistances.
    Outside of the mystic class, I’d say it’s much closer though. If we’re looking at recent defenders, none of the 3 here are great for most of them (other than Onslaught which hulk and silk >> pig). In upper bg it’s mostly just Bullseye, Onslaught, Serpent, Photon, and Dust spamming and Silk and Hulk end up doing better against most of them than Pig. You can’t parry photon or onslaught to get poppers, serpent reduces burst too much, etc

    In mystic fights, I’d say that Pig wins though the others put up solid times. Sassy and Kindred are especially great matches that you do see in bg other than the ones above and he does have more defensive value than both
    There's a trick for ham to take onslaught pretty fast. The stuns doesn't matter since you already have 50% base chance which is still pretty good. With ham you can actually save time by tanking onslaught sp2 instead of baiting sp1. The sp2 converts neuroshocks into degen from which ham takes no damage, so you can just push him to sp2 and block it. Works for me everytime.

    Also silk is great counter for photon. A little slow, but you can finish at 95% health easily.

    I recommend practicing onslaughts sp2 dex, it’s really not that bad. The beam is especially not bad at all kinda like Havoks sp2 beam, it will save you a lot of time when onslaught ai refuses to throw sp1

    His sp2 is easy to dex except for the reverse controls, I'll block the first hit usually and dex the rest.
  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 1,404 ★★★
    I sooo want a Silk.
    Is she amazing?
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,394 ★★★★★
    ChiefGoat said:

    Titania

    If they fixed the AI issue or gave her special lock , there would be no need to even have a poll as she'd be the clear cut winner
  • TerminatrixTerminatrix Member Posts: 2,771 ★★★★★
    Polygon said:

    ChiefGoat said:

    Titania

    If they fixed the AI issue or gave her special lock , there would be no need to even have a poll as she'd be the clear cut winner
    Wha's going on with her?
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,394 ★★★★★
    Terminatrix said:

    Polygon said:

    ChiefGoat said:

    Titania

    If they fixed the AI issue or gave her special lock , there would be no need to even have a poll as she'd be the clear cut winner
    Wha's going on with her?
    Her intimidate debuffs are basically being ignored by the AI so when you go for the heavy haymaker into sp3 , they still end up using their specials which makes you lose the fight to time. Unfortunate because she was 1 of the best overall attackers in BGs
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,394 ★★★★★
    Was not expecting such a dominant lead for Hulk over the other 2 ngl
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