Silk or Hulk

2»

Comments

  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,663 ★★★★★
    Silk
    NONYABIZZ said:

    NONYABIZZ said:

    Don't know bout y'all but mastering silks sp3-sp2 rotation was one of the greatest accomplishments I ever made in the game. She carried me even when she was r4 during war and story because it could nuke literally EVERY MATCHUP she could work for. Could take out onslaughts even tho I couldn't dex the specials. It was literally a guaranteed kill even with limber nodes.
    Silk also happens to be THE FASTEST science champion in BG's in my opinion at least. Mine is just r5 asc
    I'm surprised how she's slowly becoming underrated in the science class by a large chunk of the community as if she doesn't easily outspeed and outdamage champs like Titania and spider ham and she can take a LARGE chunk of matchups as well. At r3 silk can most likely finish the fight without letting your opponent throw a single special attack.
    Personally I'd go with silk but hulk is pretty Great too
    I'd go with silk PERSONALLY because I don't know how I'd play hulk when the stun lock is not "GUARANTEED" to kill the opponent. I've heard good things from hulk players tho and you will be winning either way.
    Also silk is better for enchantress lol who is saying hulk is better?. Hulk is not the best for knockdown nodes or champions where you have to knockdown the champion (you literally knock down enchantress every sp1 she throws so no hulk would not work well for enchantress because it triggers your gamma).

    Bro how tf I can go for sp3+sp2 rotation if the AI Refuses to intercept at the right time?
    I've been doing it since mine was r4 and it was really complicated but I mastered it in about an hour and did ROL with it. Since I r5'd my silk it's been insanely simple because of the additional Combat power rate. Any r5 6* and 7* star silk can easily perform it. R4 will have to be very fast. After the sp3, QUICKLY go MLLLM, MLLLH into relic and immediately the relic is finishing start tapping light, then hold block for a quick second to reset the combo then do LLLMH into Sp2
    I know I just made a whole lot of NONSENSE
    I don't know how better to explain it without a video
    Specifically you'd need the hulk relic because the 2099 one starts the stun timer before he finishes the animation.
    Initially after the sp3 you'd want to fit the MLLLM combo into the stun as if give you more power then quickly before the stun expires you start the next combo string into the relic
    Fitting 2 light attacks into the relic stun was the hardest part but after enough practice I never miss it now.
    I wish I could show a video on here without having to post on YouTube but unfortunately I can't.
    You never need AI cooperation to do this by the way because they'll have no means of escaping this rotation which is why I'll always cherish silk over Titania EVERY DAY
    I understand what you're saying. But is it guaranteed that opponent will hit your block instantly after the light combo ender? I tried it multiple times and The opponent always dash backs and blocks it.
  • KoukentsuKoukentsu Member Posts: 14
    Silk
    NONYABIZZ said:

    Don't know bout y'all but mastering silks sp3-sp2 rotation was one of the greatest accomplishments I ever made in the game. She carried me even when she was r4 during war and story because it could nuke literally EVERY MATCHUP she could work for. Could take out onslaughts even tho I couldn't dex the specials. It was literally a guaranteed kill even with limber nodes.
    Silk also happens to be THE FASTEST science champion in BG's in my opinion at least. Mine is just r5 asc
    I'm surprised how she's slowly becoming underrated in the science class by a large chunk of the community as if she doesn't easily outspeed and outdamage champs like Titania and spider ham and she can take a LARGE chunk of matchups as well. At r3 silk can most likely finish the fight without letting your opponent throw a single special attack.
    Personally I'd go with silk but hulk is pretty Great too
    I'd go with silk PERSONALLY because I don't know how I'd play hulk when the stun lock is not "GUARANTEED" to kill the opponent. I've heard good things from hulk players tho and you will be winning either way.
    Also silk is better for enchantress lol who is saying hulk is better?. Hulk is not the best for knockdown nodes or champions where you have to knockdown the champion (you literally knock down enchantress every sp1 she throws so no hulk would not work well for enchantress because it triggers your gamma).

    How did you get the sp3-sp2 rotation? I've tried it multiple times but I can't do it due to not having as much power.
  • KoukentsuKoukentsu Member Posts: 14
    Silk
    NONYABIZZ said:

    NONYABIZZ said:

    Don't know bout y'all but mastering silks sp3-sp2 rotation was one of the greatest accomplishments I ever made in the game. She carried me even when she was r4 during war and story because it could nuke literally EVERY MATCHUP she could work for. Could take out onslaughts even tho I couldn't dex the specials. It was literally a guaranteed kill even with limber nodes.
    Silk also happens to be THE FASTEST science champion in BG's in my opinion at least. Mine is just r5 asc
    I'm surprised how she's slowly becoming underrated in the science class by a large chunk of the community as if she doesn't easily outspeed and outdamage champs like Titania and spider ham and she can take a LARGE chunk of matchups as well. At r3 silk can most likely finish the fight without letting your opponent throw a single special attack.
    Personally I'd go with silk but hulk is pretty Great too
    I'd go with silk PERSONALLY because I don't know how I'd play hulk when the stun lock is not "GUARANTEED" to kill the opponent. I've heard good things from hulk players tho and you will be winning either way.
    Also silk is better for enchantress lol who is saying hulk is better?. Hulk is not the best for knockdown nodes or champions where you have to knockdown the champion (you literally knock down enchantress every sp1 she throws so no hulk would not work well for enchantress because it triggers your gamma).

    Bro how tf I can go for sp3+sp2 rotation if the AI Refuses to intercept at the right time?
    I've been doing it since mine was r4 and it was really complicated but I mastered it in about an hour and did ROL with it. Since I r5'd my silk it's been insanely simple because of the additional Combat power rate. Any r5 6* and 7* star silk can easily perform it. R4 will have to be very fast. After the sp3, QUICKLY go MLLLM, MLLLH into relic and immediately the relic is finishing start tapping light, then hold block for a quick second to reset the combo then do LLLMH into Sp2
    I know I just made a whole lot of NONSENSE
    I don't know how better to explain it without a video
    Specifically you'd need the hulk relic because the 2099 one starts the stun timer before he finishes the animation.
    Initially after the sp3 you'd want to fit the MLLLM combo into the stun as if give you more power then quickly before the stun expires you start the next combo string into the relic
    Fitting 2 light attacks into the relic stun was the hardest part but after enough practice I never miss it now.
    I wish I could show a video on here without having to post on YouTube but unfortunately I can't.
    You never need AI cooperation to do this by the way because they'll have no means of escaping this rotation which is why I'll always cherish silk over Titania EVERY DAY
    Iv'e been playing with silk for so long I didn't know this was possible.I tried this rotation once and it worked thank you bro.
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 637 ★★★
    Silk

    NONYABIZZ said:

    NONYABIZZ said:

    Don't know bout y'all but mastering silks sp3-sp2 rotation was one of the greatest accomplishments I ever made in the game. She carried me even when she was r4 during war and story because it could nuke literally EVERY MATCHUP she could work for. Could take out onslaughts even tho I couldn't dex the specials. It was literally a guaranteed kill even with limber nodes.
    Silk also happens to be THE FASTEST science champion in BG's in my opinion at least. Mine is just r5 asc
    I'm surprised how she's slowly becoming underrated in the science class by a large chunk of the community as if she doesn't easily outspeed and outdamage champs like Titania and spider ham and she can take a LARGE chunk of matchups as well. At r3 silk can most likely finish the fight without letting your opponent throw a single special attack.
    Personally I'd go with silk but hulk is pretty Great too
    I'd go with silk PERSONALLY because I don't know how I'd play hulk when the stun lock is not "GUARANTEED" to kill the opponent. I've heard good things from hulk players tho and you will be winning either way.
    Also silk is better for enchantress lol who is saying hulk is better?. Hulk is not the best for knockdown nodes or champions where you have to knockdown the champion (you literally knock down enchantress every sp1 she throws so no hulk would not work well for enchantress because it triggers your gamma).

    Bro how tf I can go for sp3+sp2 rotation if the AI Refuses to intercept at the right time?
    I've been doing it since mine was r4 and it was really complicated but I mastered it in about an hour and did ROL with it. Since I r5'd my silk it's been insanely simple because of the additional Combat power rate. Any r5 6* and 7* star silk can easily perform it. R4 will have to be very fast. After the sp3, QUICKLY go MLLLM, MLLLH into relic and immediately the relic is finishing start tapping light, then hold block for a quick second to reset the combo then do LLLMH into Sp2
    I know I just made a whole lot of NONSENSE
    I don't know how better to explain it without a video
    Specifically you'd need the hulk relic because the 2099 one starts the stun timer before he finishes the animation.
    Initially after the sp3 you'd want to fit the MLLLM combo into the stun as if give you more power then quickly before the stun expires you start the next combo string into the relic
    Fitting 2 light attacks into the relic stun was the hardest part but after enough practice I never miss it now.
    I wish I could show a video on here without having to post on YouTube but unfortunately I can't.
    You never need AI cooperation to do this by the way because they'll have no means of escaping this rotation which is why I'll always cherish silk over Titania EVERY DAY
    I understand what you're saying. But is it guaranteed that opponent will hit your block instantly after the light combo ender? I tried it multiple times and The opponent always dash backs and blocks it.
    No the relic stun is not supposed to expire.
    Immediately hulk is attacking start tapping the screen until you hit a light then instantly hold block, this resets your combo string so you can start a new 5 hit combos while the relic stun is still active.
    I'll share a video in a few minutes
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 637 ★★★
    Silk
    https://youtu.be/JdzrXtX1JKU?si=A7qLcgc6B7ydCoau
    @captain_rogers here's a PRACTICAL video of end game content with the rotation
    I just uploaded it
  • Cloudddey_broCloudddey_bro Member Posts: 331 ★★★
    Hulk
    NONYABIZZ said:

    NONYABIZZ said:

    Don't know bout y'all but mastering silks sp3-sp2 rotation was one of the greatest accomplishments I ever made in the game. She carried me even when she was r4 during war and story because it could nuke literally EVERY MATCHUP she could work for. Could take out onslaughts even tho I couldn't dex the specials. It was literally a guaranteed kill even with limber nodes.
    Silk also happens to be THE FASTEST science champion in BG's in my opinion at least. Mine is just r5 asc
    I'm surprised how she's slowly becoming underrated in the science class by a large chunk of the community as if she doesn't easily outspeed and outdamage champs like Titania and spider ham and she can take a LARGE chunk of matchups as well. At r3 silk can most likely finish the fight without letting your opponent throw a single special attack.
    Personally I'd go with silk but hulk is pretty Great too
    I'd go with silk PERSONALLY because I don't know how I'd play hulk when the stun lock is not "GUARANTEED" to kill the opponent. I've heard good things from hulk players tho and you will be winning either way.
    Also silk is better for enchantress lol who is saying hulk is better?. Hulk is not the best for knockdown nodes or champions where you have to knockdown the champion (you literally knock down enchantress every sp1 she throws so no hulk would not work well for enchantress because it triggers your gamma).

    Bro how tf I can go for sp3+sp2 rotation if the AI Refuses to intercept at the right time?
    I've been doing it since mine was r4 and it was really complicated but I mastered it in about an hour and did ROL with it. Since I r5'd my silk it's been insanely simple because of the additional Combat power rate. Any r5 6* and 7* star silk can easily perform it. R4 will have to be very fast. After the sp3, QUICKLY go MLLLM, MLLLH into relic and immediately the relic is finishing start tapping light, then hold block for a quick second to reset the combo then do LLLMH into Sp2
    I know I just made a whole lot of NONSENSE
    I don't know how better to explain it without a video
    Specifically you'd need the hulk relic because the 2099 one starts the stun timer before he finishes the animation.
    Initially after the sp3 you'd want to fit the MLLLM combo into the stun as if give you more power then quickly before the stun expires you start the next combo string into the relic
    Fitting 2 light attacks into the relic stun was the hardest part but after enough practice I never miss it now.
    I wish I could show a video on here without having to post on YouTube but unfortunately I can't.
    You never need AI cooperation to do this by the way because they'll have no means of escaping this rotation which is why I'll always cherish silk over Titania EVERY DAY

    This rotation work for bgs? Or better to do sp2 because of the extra striker charge? I’ve just pulled 7 star silk today (unfortunately right after I r2ed overseer 😭)
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 637 ★★★
    Silk
    https://youtu.be/50bsPb48b9E?si=YiWcUy9o9ELs3fo5
    Here's another one for everyone interested in learning the rotation
    Just a regular ROL fight with MASSIVE overkill
    No biggie for GOATSILK
    It's just light, hold block, light again to power through to the Sp2
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 637 ★★★
    Silk
    By the way this requires ABSOLUTELY NO AI cooperation. You see me go for a few intercepts before the sp3 but it is absolutely not needed, I just felt a lil risky there. You'll need to practice the timing of the relic combo I suggest practicing in ROL. It took me about an hr to finally master it and keep in mind I learnt it when my silk was r4 so she didn't have as much combat rate as she does not. I had to do a lot of short combos and fit them into the sp3 stun to be able to push her to Sp2.
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 637 ★★★
    Silk

    NONYABIZZ said:

    NONYABIZZ said:

    Don't know bout y'all but mastering silks sp3-sp2 rotation was one of the greatest accomplishments I ever made in the game. She carried me even when she was r4 during war and story because it could nuke literally EVERY MATCHUP she could work for. Could take out onslaughts even tho I couldn't dex the specials. It was literally a guaranteed kill even with limber nodes.
    Silk also happens to be THE FASTEST science champion in BG's in my opinion at least. Mine is just r5 asc
    I'm surprised how she's slowly becoming underrated in the science class by a large chunk of the community as if she doesn't easily outspeed and outdamage champs like Titania and spider ham and she can take a LARGE chunk of matchups as well. At r3 silk can most likely finish the fight without letting your opponent throw a single special attack.
    Personally I'd go with silk but hulk is pretty Great too
    I'd go with silk PERSONALLY because I don't know how I'd play hulk when the stun lock is not "GUARANTEED" to kill the opponent. I've heard good things from hulk players tho and you will be winning either way.
    Also silk is better for enchantress lol who is saying hulk is better?. Hulk is not the best for knockdown nodes or champions where you have to knockdown the champion (you literally knock down enchantress every sp1 she throws so no hulk would not work well for enchantress because it triggers your gamma).

    Bro how tf I can go for sp3+sp2 rotation if the AI Refuses to intercept at the right time?
    I've been doing it since mine was r4 and it was really complicated but I mastered it in about an hour and did ROL with it. Since I r5'd my silk it's been insanely simple because of the additional Combat power rate. Any r5 6* and 7* star silk can easily perform it. R4 will have to be very fast. After the sp3, QUICKLY go MLLLM, MLLLH into relic and immediately the relic is finishing start tapping light, then hold block for a quick second to reset the combo then do LLLMH into Sp2
    I know I just made a whole lot of NONSENSE
    I don't know how better to explain it without a video
    Specifically you'd need the hulk relic because the 2099 one starts the stun timer before he finishes the animation.
    Initially after the sp3 you'd want to fit the MLLLM combo into the stun as if give you more power then quickly before the stun expires you start the next combo string into the relic
    Fitting 2 light attacks into the relic stun was the hardest part but after enough practice I never miss it now.
    I wish I could show a video on here without having to post on YouTube but unfortunately I can't.
    You never need AI cooperation to do this by the way because they'll have no means of escaping this rotation which is why I'll always cherish silk over Titania EVERY DAY

    This rotation work for bgs? Or better to do sp2 because of the extra striker charge? I’ve just pulled 7 star silk today (unfortunately right after I r2ed overseer 😭)
    Silk will most likely finish the fight with an Sp2 and a couple more hits after sometimes maybe an sp1. I do not usually do this in BG but it Titania can use sp3 and still put out great time, then I don't see why silk can't as well and silk will most likely finish off the defender before you reach your sp2 anyways. You can try the sp3 out in BG and see how you like it if not I recommend sticking to the Sp2 nuke
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Silk
    NONYABIZZ said:

    NONYABIZZ said:

    NONYABIZZ said:

    Don't know bout y'all but mastering silks sp3-sp2 rotation was one of the greatest accomplishments I ever made in the game. She carried me even when she was r4 during war and story because it could nuke literally EVERY MATCHUP she could work for. Could take out onslaughts even tho I couldn't dex the specials. It was literally a guaranteed kill even with limber nodes.
    Silk also happens to be THE FASTEST science champion in BG's in my opinion at least. Mine is just r5 asc
    I'm surprised how she's slowly becoming underrated in the science class by a large chunk of the community as if she doesn't easily outspeed and outdamage champs like Titania and spider ham and she can take a LARGE chunk of matchups as well. At r3 silk can most likely finish the fight without letting your opponent throw a single special attack.
    Personally I'd go with silk but hulk is pretty Great too
    I'd go with silk PERSONALLY because I don't know how I'd play hulk when the stun lock is not "GUARANTEED" to kill the opponent. I've heard good things from hulk players tho and you will be winning either way.
    Also silk is better for enchantress lol who is saying hulk is better?. Hulk is not the best for knockdown nodes or champions where you have to knockdown the champion (you literally knock down enchantress every sp1 she throws so no hulk would not work well for enchantress because it triggers your gamma).

    Bro how tf I can go for sp3+sp2 rotation if the AI Refuses to intercept at the right time?
    I've been doing it since mine was r4 and it was really complicated but I mastered it in about an hour and did ROL with it. Since I r5'd my silk it's been insanely simple because of the additional Combat power rate. Any r5 6* and 7* star silk can easily perform it. R4 will have to be very fast. After the sp3, QUICKLY go MLLLM, MLLLH into relic and immediately the relic is finishing start tapping light, then hold block for a quick second to reset the combo then do LLLMH into Sp2
    I know I just made a whole lot of NONSENSE
    I don't know how better to explain it without a video
    Specifically you'd need the hulk relic because the 2099 one starts the stun timer before he finishes the animation.
    Initially after the sp3 you'd want to fit the MLLLM combo into the stun as if give you more power then quickly before the stun expires you start the next combo string into the relic
    Fitting 2 light attacks into the relic stun was the hardest part but after enough practice I never miss it now.
    I wish I could show a video on here without having to post on YouTube but unfortunately I can't.
    You never need AI cooperation to do this by the way because they'll have no means of escaping this rotation which is why I'll always cherish silk over Titania EVERY DAY

    This rotation work for bgs? Or better to do sp2 because of the extra striker charge? I’ve just pulled 7 star silk today (unfortunately right after I r2ed overseer 😭)
    Silk will most likely finish the fight with an Sp2 and a couple more hits after sometimes maybe an sp1. I do not usually do this in BG but it Titania can use sp3 and still put out great time, then I don't see why silk can't as well and silk will most likely finish off the defender before you reach your sp2 anyways. You can try the sp3 out in BG and see how you like it if not I recommend sticking to the Sp2 nuke
    Personally I only go for sp3 when it's a Sassy, in every other situation I think sp2 is the way unless you're trying to use a r2 against a r3.
  • SoundwarpSoundwarp Member Posts: 73
    Silk
    Is it worth investing in the 7* if I got a r4 6* sig 200 ascended?
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 4,643 ★★★★★
    Silk

    Polygon said:

    Polygon said:

    What makes Silk good for Photon?

    She doesn't benefit from dex so she can dodge photon's specials, and also the safety net evade if you miss her dodge timing.

    She can also dodge serpent's specials as well.
    The rotation is just 5 hit combos into sp2 i assume since heavies trigger miss
    Yeah you don't wanna heavy into photon, so you'll lose some damage (Or you could manually trigger her miss via parry and launch your heavy into sp2 when the cooldown is up), but that's not really necessary, she can still do good damage without heavies.
    What if you play it like Red Goat and purposely trigger untouchable before your sp2 so it goes on cooldown?
    Yeah that's what I mean, that'll work, but if you stack multiple physical vulnerabilites, you will do great damage even without furies.
    That's good to know then, I had no idea Silk could fully dex her specials which is absolutely embarrassing since I have a r3.
    I didn't either and I also have a r3. You're not alone at least.
Sign In or Register to comment.