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Deep dive: Shathra

EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,034 ★★★★★
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https://youtu.be/nglYWe8YGz0?si=w_y8QprBugjJuMq9

Where’s my bug repellent?
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  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    edited September 2024
    I'm excited now, she looks very good for Serpent, probably the best.
    Edit: She's dual threat too, I think this is already looking better than Gladiator, can't wait to test her.
  • Wolf911Wolf911 Member Posts: 680 ★★★
    Looks creepy enough

    and those spider totem thingy giving spider verse champs different effects is cool

    glad I voted her after Ruby Thursday Lost in round 1
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,793 ★★★★★
    She looks pretty good. I take ny statement back. Her damage in right matchups is insane. Her playstyle seems to be bit risky, but highly rewarding.

    Her bursts damage shouldn't be reduced by serpent right? Also her power steal combined with atrophy is great against serpent. If her damage can't be reduced, she is probably one of the best counters (like chavez and kush).
  • Wolf911Wolf911 Member Posts: 680 ★★★
    Squidopus said:

    Yep, her wasps are DOT, so Serpent doesn’t reduce the damage. With vulnerabilities to counter his resistance up, she looks to be one of the best Serpent counters. The atrophy is only 70% but that’s still enough to remove most of the threat of death immunity as well, just not quite as well as Mojo but good enough.

    best thing is the atrophy refreshes with each special and also removes stand your ground

    good for serpent
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,945 ★★★★★
    Squidopus said:

    Yep, her wasps are DOT, so Serpent doesn’t reduce the damage. With vulnerabilities to counter his resistance up, she looks to be one of the best Serpent counters. The atrophy is only 70% but that’s still enough to remove most of the threat of death immunity as well, just not quite as well as Mojo but good enough.

    I think its the strongest atrophy i believe of non stacking versions since enchantress is 30% doubled with sp2
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,945 ★★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    https://youtu.be/nglYWe8YGz0?si=w_y8QprBugjJuMq9

    Where’s my bug repellent?

    She looks so good but man i hate no silk synergy
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    She looks pretty good. I take ny statement back. Her damage in right matchups is insane. Her playstyle seems to be bit risky, but highly rewarding.

    Her bursts damage shouldn't be reduced by serpent right? Also her power steal combined with atrophy is great against serpent. If her damage can't be reduced, she is probably one of the best counters (like chavez and kush).

    It won't cause it's not burst, it's energy dot so dread does nothing.
    Hands down best Serpent counter this year, my faith has been restored, finally a banger attacker.
  • Wolf911Wolf911 Member Posts: 680 ★★★


    not that good defender but great attacker

    but that's what we needed after soo many dud attackers
  • PolygonPolygon Member Posts: 4,893 ★★★★★
    Is it fairly easy to pull off the long heavy charge into special ? Also nice seeing an apoc for spider verse champs
  • ShashankGuptaShashankGupta Member Posts: 557 ★★★
    I would say every summoner choice is very unique from each other but I really want a character whose yellow no. And red no. Both should be high
    Yes gladiator yellow no. can be high but he still a dot type of champ and yet another we got summoner choice whose main source is dot
    I really want to know when will be getting a champ whose yellow and red no. will be high? 😅
  • SquidopusSquidopus Member Posts: 747 ★★★★




    Some of these totem abilities are pretty banger too, here’s three of them I find particularly interesting. Notably Miles no longer needs to complete his blocking mission to get in the zone and easily trigger miss, great for champs that are almost always unblockable. Gwen, punk, and Spidey supreme also have bonuses.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,793 ★★★★★
    edited September 2024
    Polygon said:

    Is it fairly easy to pull off the long heavy charge into special ? Also nice seeing an apoc for spider verse champs

    Relic + heavy is the way to go.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,945 ★★★★★
    Polygon said:

    Is it fairly easy to pull off the long heavy charge into special ? Also nice seeing an apoc for spider verse champs

    Yes as the designer of her mentioned they gave her a long reach heavy so u can connect heavy into sp2 from a distance
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,945 ★★★★★
    Squidopus said:





    Some of these totem abilities are pretty banger too, here’s three of them I find particularly interesting. Notably Miles no longer needs to complete his blocking mission to get in the zone and easily trigger miss, great for champs that are almost always unblockable. Gwen, punk, and Spidey supreme also have bonuses.

    For me one i liked most was gwen since having a pause when stunned opponent for trap and hunter thats nice as means even more damage u can get and possibly nice sp2s also
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,793 ★★★★★
    Squidopus said:





    Some of these totem abilities are pretty banger too, here’s three of them I find particularly interesting. Notably Miles no longer needs to complete his blocking mission to get in the zone and easily trigger miss, great for champs that are almost always unblockable. Gwen, punk, and Spidey supreme also have bonuses.

    Spiderman and spam bonuses are great as well. The spam bonus is very good against passive defenders.

    No bonuses for silk?
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Wolf911 said:



    not that good defender but great attacker

    but that's what we needed after soo many dud attackers

    DEFINITELY 4.5/5 they got it right this time. That r3 Maestro in the deep dive went down in 35 secs, boy did I miss the nukes.
    @Emilia90 it finally happened 🥲 and she counters Serpent so well too cause it is energy dot not burst.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,945 ★★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    Squidopus said:





    Some of these totem abilities are pretty banger too, here’s three of them I find particularly interesting. Notably Miles no longer needs to complete his blocking mission to get in the zone and easily trigger miss, great for champs that are almost always unblockable. Gwen, punk, and Spidey supreme also have bonuses.

    Spiderman and spam bonuses are great as well. The spam bonus is very good against passive defenders.

    No bonuses for silk?
    Nope i had to check as i was so hoping there would be one but still she at least gets the cross fight poison immunity
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,793 ★★★★★
    ShashankGupta said:

    I would say every summoner choice is very unique from each other but I really want a character whose yellow no. And red no. Both should be high
    Yes gladiator yellow no. can be high but he still a dot type of champ and yet another we got summoner choice whose main source is dot
    I really want to know when will be getting a champ whose yellow and red no. will be high? 😅

    Qs is burst and herc is raw damage + burst.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,034 ★★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    I'm excited now, she looks very good for Serpent, probably the best.
    Edit: She's dual threat too, I think this is already looking better than Gladiator, can't wait to test her.

    I don’t think she’s a dual threat, only 2/5 on defense
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    I'm excited now, she looks very good for Serpent, probably the best.
    Edit: She's dual threat too, I think this is already looking better than Gladiator, can't wait to test her.

    I don’t think she’s a dual threat, only 2/5 on defense
    I thought she would be cause of the dot during her special activation it's unavoidable damage, but I guess if you don't get hit she can't place anything on you in the first place.

    Doesn't matter though, she looks like an absolute nuke already and she counters Serpent, that's good enough for me.
  • ShashankGuptaShashankGupta Member Posts: 557 ★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    ShashankGupta said:

    I would say every summoner choice is very unique from each other but I really want a character whose yellow no. And red no. Both should be high
    Yes gladiator yellow no. can be high but he still a dot type of champ and yet another we got summoner choice whose main source is dot
    I really want to know when will be getting a champ whose yellow and red no. will be high? 😅

    Qs is burst and herc is raw damage + burst.
    That's what I said only hercules has that potential to do raw damage with burst waiting for a day when we see another hercules of course without immortality to not make him a god tier champ 😂
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,945 ★★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    I'm excited now, she looks very good for Serpent, probably the best.
    Edit: She's dual threat too, I think this is already looking better than Gladiator, can't wait to test her.

    I don’t think she’s a dual threat, only 2/5 on defense
    I thought she would be cause of the dot during her special activation it's unavoidable damage, but I guess if you don't get hit she can't place anything on you in the first place.

    Doesn't matter though, she looks like an absolute nuke already and she counters Serpent, that's good enough for me.
    Issue is though if people know she counters him u probs wont get a chance to pick as she would be a insta ban
  • SquidopusSquidopus Member Posts: 747 ★★★★
    I do sorta wonder why they bothered making her egg build up RNG. Like the numbers are consistent enough that it’s not likely she’s gonna be defined by the RNG but it still feels like an unnecessary design choice. Guess it’s just sorta flavor.
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Bendy said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    I'm excited now, she looks very good for Serpent, probably the best.
    Edit: She's dual threat too, I think this is already looking better than Gladiator, can't wait to test her.

    I don’t think she’s a dual threat, only 2/5 on defense
    I thought she would be cause of the dot during her special activation it's unavoidable damage, but I guess if you don't get hit she can't place anything on you in the first place.

    Doesn't matter though, she looks like an absolute nuke already and she counters Serpent, that's good enough for me.
    Issue is though if people know she counters him u probs wont get a chance to pick as she would be a insta ban
    Personally I don't think people will waste bans on her just like people don't waste bans on Sinister even though he turns Bullseye into a joke, but Serpent is a worse defender than Bullseye so that might change, or maybe it won't, we'll see once she's out.
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,945 ★★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    Bendy said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    EdisonLaw said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    I'm excited now, she looks very good for Serpent, probably the best.
    Edit: She's dual threat too, I think this is already looking better than Gladiator, can't wait to test her.

    I don’t think she’s a dual threat, only 2/5 on defense
    I thought she would be cause of the dot during her special activation it's unavoidable damage, but I guess if you don't get hit she can't place anything on you in the first place.

    Doesn't matter though, she looks like an absolute nuke already and she counters Serpent, that's good enough for me.
    Issue is though if people know she counters him u probs wont get a chance to pick as she would be a insta ban
    Personally I don't think people will waste bans on her just like people don't waste bans on Sinister even though he turns Bullseye into a joke, but Serpent is a worse defender than Bullseye so that might change, or maybe it won't, we'll see once she's out.
    Well the sinister might also change with his 7 and being r3
  • HarryatomixHarryatomix Member Posts: 392 ★★★
    So how do you guys rate summoner choice champs including Shathra
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 9,034 ★★★★★
    Harryatomix said:

    So how do you guys rate summoner choice champs including Shathra

    Well Herc is obviously #1 for sure
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    Harryatomix said:

    So how do you guys rate summoner choice champs including Shathra

    Herc > Shathra > QS > Gladiator (pre buff)
    Herc > Shathra > Gladiator (post buff) > QS
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,945 ★★★★★
    Harryatomix said:

    So how do you guys rate summoner choice champs including Shathra

    I cant rank as i personally only like this one the most
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