Summer of suffering week 4

captain_rogers

Who are all the best options here?

Comments

JackTheSnack

Depends if you’re just going for completion and “skipping” this week or going for the objectives

captain_rogers

Depends if you’re just going for completion and “skipping” this week or going for the objectives

I'm planning to skip one of the objectives actually.

Emilia90

The AI is legit gonna make me quit at this point. Had a fantastic run with scorp and he just wouldn’t throw his special, waited until everything fell off, and then he threw it as I dashed to hit his block.

captain_rogers

The AI is legit gonna make me quit at this point. Had a fantastic run with scorp and he just wouldn’t throw his special, waited until everything fell off, and then he threw it as I dashed to hit his block.

Yeah that mf never throws a sp1 even after I dash in and dash out like 20 times. This one is literally unplayable, even worse than onslaught.

JackTheSnack

Depends if you’re just going for completion and “skipping” this week or going for the objectives
I'm planning to skip one of the objectives actually.

I honestly thought about speedrunning with nimrod just for the completion if I couldn’t do the objectives. Haven’t had a chance to read the nodes yet but my roster is “kind-of” limited so I usually have to use a non-typical option for the objectives. I’ll come back to this and let you know. I’ve seen people saying hulkling for one of them. Maybe possibly scorp for the sinister six if you don’t have shocker? Idk

Nacho98

This **** sucks. You can’t bait a special during the reverse control phase due to toads animation and AI issues. Brutal

Chuck_Finley

Using Juggs - get him to his corner. Will not throw his SP1 as keep baiting all the way back to my corner. Happened multiple times.

This might be the worst AI yet. Simply won’t throw his special

Ashacekar

I m in middle of fight, not sure why my overseer is taking burst damage, he isn't preventing toad's heal (or is it by any means? mastery?). It's like i m doing fine then suddenly take burst damage, that is annoying me.

Ortoun

Depends if you’re just going for completion and “skipping” this week or going for the objectives
I'm planning to skip one of the objectives actually.
I honestly thought about speedrunning with nimrod just for the completion if I couldn’t do the objectives. Haven’t had a chance to read the nodes yet but my roster is “kind-of” limited so I usually have to use a non-typical option for the objectives. I’ll come back to this and let you know. I’ve seen people saying hulkling for one of them. Maybe possibly scorp for the sinister six if you don’t have shocker? Idk

Nimrod probably not a great option, you take 30% max health damage if you remove his regens.

Sidd777

Decently easy fight with vox, very dependent on the ai throwing specials though. Definitely don’t push to sp2 if it’s on the root mode

Emilia90

Hulkling is a great option btw. Hit his block and slow play with a few intercepts here and there and he makes it a breeze. Garbage AI tho

Friendly001

It took me so long to bait Toad’s special, I forgot reverse controls was next and ate a special to the face.

JackTheSnack

Depends if you’re just going for completion and “skipping” this week or going for the objectives
I'm planning to skip one of the objectives actually.
I honestly thought about speedrunning with nimrod just for the completion if I couldn’t do the objectives. Haven’t had a chance to read the nodes yet but my roster is “kind-of” limited so I usually have to use a non-typical option for the objectives. I’ll come back to this and let you know. I’ve seen people saying hulkling for one of them. Maybe possibly scorp for the sinister six if you don’t have shocker? Idk
Nimrod probably not a great option, you take 30% max health damage if you remove his regens.

Yep I knew there’d be some node like that…of course

JackTheSnack

I m in middle of fight, not sure why my overseer is taking burst damage, he isn't preventing toad's heal (or is it by any means? mastery?). It's like i m doing fine then suddenly take burst damage, that is annoying me.

Is this the 30% max health damage for removing regens thing

captain_rogers

@KabamDORK @Kabam Pinwheel The fight is literally unplayable. We need an immediate AI fix. Please look into this issue.

captain_rogers

Shocker is an excellent option for the fight. Can invalidate prowess on his own. Only if Ai doesn't suck.

captain_rogers

I m in middle of fight, not sure why my overseer is taking burst damage, he isn't preventing toad's heal (or is it by any means? mastery?). It's like i m doing fine then suddenly take burst damage, that is annoying me.

Special concussions prevent his regen effect from triggering, which causes burst (I guess so)

Ironman3000

Why the F won't he throw is damn specials?

BeastDad

Looks like it is working as intended to me.

Friendly001

AI has been like this for so long, probably isn’t even on their agenda atp.

Chuck_Finley

The invisible Turtle Bias Node:

“Defender won’t throw his special until you are so bored you forget what you are doing and why you even logged in.”

Squidopus

Solo with Destroyer. Good damage, poison immunity, and an unstoppable dash that lets you get a bit reckless going for intercepts in order to invalidate his prowesses. Long fight because I ate a sp1 earlier on in the fight and had to play very defensively from then on, it can probably be done faster if you elect to use the strategy of not getting hit in the face unlike me.

Ashacekar

I m in middle of fight, not sure why my overseer is taking burst damage, he isn't preventing toad's heal (or is it by any means? mastery?). It's like i m doing fine then suddenly take burst damage, that is annoying me.
Special concussions prevent his regen effect from triggering, which causes burst (I guess so)

Oh okie good to know, i m able to take about 20% health each attempt with the 20% revive potions.

The trick is fill bar close to sp2, you will have 5-6 gamma charges, then spam sp1s and relic to do a good stun luck. In all my attempt i don't even last till till reverse control and take burst somewhere during stun lock. I can definitely do better if burst doesn't happen. I won't recommend Overseer though.
Now to think of other two objectives.

DickGrayson79

I have been getting stunned randomly, what am I missing? I was using hulk throwing s1s and got stunned in back to back fights.

Bendy

Why cant we get a seasonal event fully with good ai instead of ai holding blocking simulator

captain_rogers

Shocker is a monster in this fight. Can invalidate prowess, can autoblock specials if you mess up the timing. One heavy at 150 charges and one heavy at 100 charges can easily end the fight.

This fight should take 2 mins with ideal AI, but yeah, it is what it is.

Squidopus

I have been getting stunned randomly, what am I missing? I was using hulk throwing s1s and got stunned in back to back fights.

Duped Toad builds prowesses when his poisons are prevented via immunity, and once he hits 10 prowesses he’ll consume them when either champ makes contact to inflict a passive stun. If you’re using a poison immune in this fight like Hulkling, you must either regularly intercept to invalidate the prowesses or regularly bait sp2 which consumes them.

captain_rogers

Does anyone used hulk for xl objective?

captain_rogers

I have been getting stunned randomly, what am I missing? I was using hulk throwing s1s and got stunned in back to back fights.

You get stunned if he reaches 10 prowess

Drago_von_Drago

Objectives for reference: