Toad fight proves how bad Deathless Vision is

Considering we are using the fully team the health scaling should be around a mil in scaling since fully deathless synergy guilly and dkg hits too hard for anything lower than a mil

PT_99

Kabam can't make solid attackers anymore.
What's the point of damageless champs?

I kinda like Deathless Vision.. Just gotta slow play to utilize his kit. Not every fight has to be 30 seconds.. Get those fury's up and hit the special 2.. Decent damage.. Not OP damage but decent.. I might be in the minority but is what it is..

Smetira

My guy are you playing without any masteries and stat focus? How did you manage to get 800 dmg on M with any R2...
I use DV in AQ and his hits are defo not 800 on M, did Toad in about 3 revives, did not have problem with the dmg.

AI was total mess tho

U didnt get the sarcasm thats what his dmaage feels like because he hits so weak even with the fury passives

HungaryHippo

They can, but it costs them too much in revive revenue.

NBK1999

Right there with you. Not every champ has to be the most broken champ released to date. I wouldn’t mind a value tuneup on his furies but he’s far from unusable in his current state. Tbh you can get solid times on fights once you’re comfortable enough with him.

Hulking soloed the fight in 3 minutes , no one said it should be a 30 seconds fight , all I am saying it should feel way much easier than it is , not a long boring fight , I had fun using hulk and hulkling, DV was just not fun at all and he's supposed to be an insane champ , did y'all forget we have to play several game modes In Order to get him how can y'all be happy with such a lame champion after spending all that time to have him, I don't want him to be the new herc , just want him to be more useful than he's currently state

I like a challenge sue me... I like to be able to master a champs abilities in order to get the best out of him.. I like being able to phase hits and get the defender right past a bar of power then power drain that fool lol.. He is useful if you like actually playing the game. Find a way to make him work ya feel meh...

He has nothing to master he plays same as u would with other visions

You mean Viv??? The other 2 Visons can't phase.. If you don't like him don't use him.. Problem solved

Bruh stop lying to yourself bro , any champ in The game can do any fight DV is made to easier than he can , just cause u don't care about taking five minutes to do a fight that last one ,doesn't mean a champ is good or useful, I like his kit and design but the lack of damage on basic attacks and the rng on his specials is just not good.

A 6* R3 superior iron man can do more damage than him both on specials and basic hits with a simple and fun build up , DV build up takes so long and it doesn't pay off at all , you still hitting like a noodle with 14 passive fury's specials that don't crit barely do any damage , plus if the AI decides to me a mofo, ur just not getting any phase charges or playing the game, u just there doing zero damage .

is okay for him not to be meta , but he can definitely be better , DKG is not meta but has an easy build up and pretty good damage .

No u get sp2 u use it its the same as other visions he has nothing to master oh he has phase it doesnt change he plays as visions og and aou

You can't tell me what champs I like to use lol.. Use who TF you want to use and I'll do the same.. Meta or no meta, if I enjoy using him that's my business lol.. Don't be that guy..

So what about the time everyone wasted to get him , now we have him and we know he's trash and don't like him that way , but whatever let's just not use him , who cares about the resources and time we wasted

Thing is i like how cool he is i want to play him but his damage isnt worth the whole fury passives as there too weak they needs to be bumped in 147 hits from my duped vision i did 50% on toad and thats with getting 15 fury keeping them up isnt doable since he has no way to get power if any other id be done almost in that many hits

EYE LIKE HIM... You don't have to... Use who you want... Simple

Im not telling u who u like im just telling u he doesnt have anything to master

Time well spent for me.. Can't speak for anyone else..

You just a weirdo , and I will enjoy ignoring you for now on , I never said anything about what champs you like , I said ur lying about him being good

Ok pal.. Your opinion is irrelevant to me.. Quote someone that gives a rat's behind about what you talkin bout for me real quick..

Weird because I like something you don't? He is good to me Lol.. That's funny.. I'll be a weirdo then.. That's cool.. I won't violate the forum rules and tell you where to stick your opinions of me and my choices.. But here's a hint... Everybody got one, and they stink..

U was the one telling me to go play who u want when i was talking about how bad his damage was so how about u keep ur opinions of who to use to urself

I don't think I will actually.. Good day..

Weird because you don't know how to read