Titan Worthiness - What champs from each class will add value to the pool?

BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,384 ★★★★★
edited October 6 in General Discussion
So I’ve been thinking about this question… and I figured it’d be a good one to crowd source especially with the pool changing over soon too.

The question is, what champs that have yet to be introduced to the 7star pool would get you excited about opening a Titan crystal?

The idea is certain champs, like Hercules and Kate are pretty much outta bounds as they still crush all content as 6s so it’s really about identifying champs in that niche below them. Sharing my thoughts to get it started:

Skill: Stealthy, Hit Monkey, Zemo, BWDO (come on you know you wanna see the damage potential here)

Mutant: Iceman, Apocalypse, Toad, Kitty (she really isn’t as broken as Herc, but if they aren’t ready for her Apocalypse’s reclaiming of a top tier mutant would be great for AW and other areas of the game.)

Tech: iDoom, Nimrod, Viv, FAM (Nimrod has been so hard countered by recent design and elevated power levels he’d get a huge resurgence if he didn’t have to punch up anymore)

Cosmic: Galan… this class is a hard one as the top 3 in the class are gonna be a long time, but the remaining champs dip in quality so fast. Medusa buff and SIM buff are huge here, but this class needs more help at the bottom still… sorry I digress (but please buff Groot… and give him root)

Mystic: BWCV (I bet Kabam wishes she was in game and not Juggy like the original vote woulda done lol), Spidey Supreme, Rintrah, and Doom (yes I think it time, so many champs counter him now or disrupt his rotations he’s no longer broken, but balanced)

Science: Red Guardian, Mr Fantastic, Ibom, Cassie, Scorpion (Really this is the class with the most options still, I’m sure I’m missing more than one. Scorpion is powerful but not broken, Vega has nailed this in the past and I completely agree with this take).

Feel free to add or discuss what you disagree with.



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  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,384 ★★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    Some of these champs are simply broken, not in the sense they disrupt the competition, but they completely shift the meta so no one ranks the current 7* champs.

    Like if scorp, Fam, doom enters as 7*s they will be too Op, don't think bgs are the only mode that matters.

    Why should one ranks any tech 7* if FAM enters the pool. Same goes for the few other champs you've mentioned.

    My suggestions
    Mutant - Toad, Iceman, apoc, red mag
    Skill - Zemo, valk, hitmonkey, stealthy
    Science - Wasp, cassie, ibomb (RG needs high sig and scorp is broken, science class already got too many good champs lol).
    Mystic - supreme spidy, rintrah, bwcv and maybe abs man (I do think he would be balanced).
    Cosmic - Galan, I could Only think of him haha
    Tech - Viv vision, Idoom, and maybe nimrod (But seriously this is too soon for nimrod to enter). Rather they may introduce ghost.

    See, I think there is a clear distinction between powerful and broken and I don’t view any of the champs I listed as broken. Especially if Serpent exists as a 7star, I just can’t agree with the point of view that any of these are unacceptable to bring to the game as 7s.

    Also all 3 really want/require high sig to perform at the level where they challenge the line of being too powerful.

    Kitty would be the one though, that I can see how she crosses over that line as her power gain mechanism when being hit while phased is a broken ability. I wouldn’t mind if they nerfed it even as part of making her a 7
  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 4,331 ★★★★★
    Add yellowjacket and wasp
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,384 ★★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    Some of these champs are simply broken, not in the sense they disrupt the competition, but they completely shift the meta so no one ranks the current 7* champs.

    Like if scorp, Fam, doom enters as 7*s they will be too Op, don't think bgs are the only mode that matters.

    Why should one ranks any tech 7* if FAM enters the pool. Same goes for the few other champs you've mentioned.

    My suggestions
    Mutant - Toad, Iceman, apoc, red mag
    Skill - Zemo, valk, hitmonkey, stealthy
    Science - Wasp, cassie, ibomb (RG needs high sig and scorp is broken, science class already got too many good champs lol).
    Mystic - supreme spidy, rintrah, bwcv and maybe abs man (I do think he would be balanced).
    Cosmic - Galan, I could Only think of him haha
    Tech - Viv vision, Idoom, and maybe nimrod (But seriously this is too soon for nimrod to enter). Rather they may introduce ghost.

    But I see that you list out Ghost and Red Mags that feel would be broken as they cheese so much at a base level. More so than even Serpent can IMO.

    Absolutely love the Abs. Man call out. I agree completely
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,646 ★★★★★
    BigBlueOx said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Some of these champs are simply broken, not in the sense they disrupt the competition, but they completely shift the meta so no one ranks the current 7* champs.

    Like if scorp, Fam, doom enters as 7*s they will be too Op, don't think bgs are the only mode that matters.

    Why should one ranks any tech 7* if FAM enters the pool. Same goes for the few other champs you've mentioned.

    My suggestions
    Mutant - Toad, Iceman, apoc, red mag
    Skill - Zemo, valk, hitmonkey, stealthy
    Science - Wasp, cassie, ibomb (RG needs high sig and scorp is broken, science class already got too many good champs lol).
    Mystic - supreme spidy, rintrah, bwcv and maybe abs man (I do think he would be balanced).
    Cosmic - Galan, I could Only think of him haha
    Tech - Viv vision, Idoom, and maybe nimrod (But seriously this is too soon for nimrod to enter). Rather they may introduce ghost.

    But I see that you list out Ghost and Red Mags that feel would be broken as they cheese so much at a base level. More so than even Serpent can IMO.

    Absolutely love the Abs. Man call out. I agree completely
    Again how many players have a 6* r5a mags and ghost? How many you see them on bgs. While they can cheese, they aren't as good as they used to be.

    But almost every single player have a r5 scorp, doom and FAM. And most players still run em on bgs.
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 671 ★★★
    JLordVileJ said:

    Add yellowjacket and wasp

    Heavy on the Yellowjacket
  • NONYABIZZNONYABIZZ Member Posts: 636 ★★★
    I can see BWDO getting a huge resurgence as a 7* because of her nuke potential and great damage.
    Stealth spidey will have a spider ham level of glow up with the 7* release and will be very good.

    Wasp will also benefit A LOT from being a 7* and I personally would want her if she was available.

    As others have said, jubilee could also see some value as a 7*

    I NAMED champions who are NOT regarded as the BEST OF THE BEST in their class right now as 6* but could definitely get in that argument as 7* because I know kabam does not want the BEST OF THE BEST as 7* in the meantime so I thought rationally on this subject.

    Kabam needs to start adding good options as 7* who actually have POTENTIAL not that rubbish reunion pool we got last month
  • ege999menege999men Member Posts: 374 ★★
    I think for the next titan toad and stealthy will be there. At least I hope so, those are so well balanced. iceman, I suppose is in the same boat
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,384 ★★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    captain_rogers said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Some of these champs are simply broken, not in the sense they disrupt the competition, but they completely shift the meta so no one ranks the current 7* champs.

    Like if scorp, Fam, doom enters as 7*s they will be too Op, don't think bgs are the only mode that matters.

    Why should one ranks any tech 7* if FAM enters the pool. Same goes for the few other champs you've mentioned.

    My suggestions
    Mutant - Toad, Iceman, apoc, red mag
    Skill - Zemo, valk, hitmonkey, stealthy
    Science - Wasp, cassie, ibomb (RG needs high sig and scorp is broken, science class already got too many good champs lol).
    Mystic - supreme spidy, rintrah, bwcv and maybe abs man (I do think he would be balanced).
    Cosmic - Galan, I could Only think of him haha
    Tech - Viv vision, Idoom, and maybe nimrod (But seriously this is too soon for nimrod to enter). Rather they may introduce ghost.

    But I see that you list out Ghost and Red Mags that feel would be broken as they cheese so much at a base level. More so than even Serpent can IMO.

    Absolutely love the Abs. Man call out. I agree completely
    Again how many players have a 6* r5a mags and ghost? How many you see them on bgs. While they can cheese, they aren't as good as they used to be.

    But almost every single player have a r5 scorp, doom and FAM. And most players still run em on bgs.
    Mags and Ghost are the textbook definitions of Broken. Just because you aren't using them, or you aren't seeing them being used in BGs, doesn't mean that they aren't broken, it means they just aren't being utilized in BGs. Both are still amazing in all other content in the game with both having a lot of potential in BGs still.
    Completely agree. And the fact that they trivialize tough fights out of the box is a key difference.

    FAM on the other hand. Doesn’t trivialize things as an attacker, he’s very very powerful but a lot of that comes from investing in his sig.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,646 ★★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    captain_rogers said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Some of these champs are simply broken, not in the sense they disrupt the competition, but they completely shift the meta so no one ranks the current 7* champs.

    Like if scorp, Fam, doom enters as 7*s they will be too Op, don't think bgs are the only mode that matters.

    Why should one ranks any tech 7* if FAM enters the pool. Same goes for the few other champs you've mentioned.

    My suggestions
    Mutant - Toad, Iceman, apoc, red mag
    Skill - Zemo, valk, hitmonkey, stealthy
    Science - Wasp, cassie, ibomb (RG needs high sig and scorp is broken, science class already got too many good champs lol).
    Mystic - supreme spidy, rintrah, bwcv and maybe abs man (I do think he would be balanced).
    Cosmic - Galan, I could Only think of him haha
    Tech - Viv vision, Idoom, and maybe nimrod (But seriously this is too soon for nimrod to enter). Rather they may introduce ghost.

    But I see that you list out Ghost and Red Mags that feel would be broken as they cheese so much at a base level. More so than even Serpent can IMO.

    Absolutely love the Abs. Man call out. I agree completely
    Again how many players have a 6* r5a mags and ghost? How many you see them on bgs. While they can cheese, they aren't as good as they used to be.

    But almost every single player have a r5 scorp, doom and FAM. And most players still run em on bgs.
    Mags and Ghost are the textbook definitions of Broken. Just because you aren't using them, or you aren't seeing them being used in BGs, doesn't mean that they aren't broken, it means they just aren't being utilized in BGs. Both are still amazing in all other content in the game with both having a lot of potential in BGs still.
    I'm not saying in the context of bgs. I know they are broken, and I know bgs aren't the only game mode that matters.

    I believe if they release em as 7*s they would be still balanced. Also my question is genuine, Mags and ghost aren't ranked up a lot by people.
    I honestly believe they had their time (this is just a opinion and I might be wrong) and needs a revival as 7* star status.
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,384 ★★★★★
    edited October 6
    captain_rogers said:

    Pikolu said:

    captain_rogers said:

    BigBlueOx said:

    captain_rogers said:

    Some of these champs are simply broken, not in the sense they disrupt the competition, but they completely shift the meta so no one ranks the current 7* champs.

    Like if scorp, Fam, doom enters as 7*s they will be too Op, don't think bgs are the only mode that matters.

    Why should one ranks any tech 7* if FAM enters the pool. Same goes for the few other champs you've mentioned.

    My suggestions
    Mutant - Toad, Iceman, apoc, red mag
    Skill - Zemo, valk, hitmonkey, stealthy
    Science - Wasp, cassie, ibomb (RG needs high sig and scorp is broken, science class already got too many good champs lol).
    Mystic - supreme spidy, rintrah, bwcv and maybe abs man (I do think he would be balanced).
    Cosmic - Galan, I could Only think of him haha
    Tech - Viv vision, Idoom, and maybe nimrod (But seriously this is too soon for nimrod to enter). Rather they may introduce ghost.

    But I see that you list out Ghost and Red Mags that feel would be broken as they cheese so much at a base level. More so than even Serpent can IMO.

    Absolutely love the Abs. Man call out. I agree completely
    Again how many players have a 6* r5a mags and ghost? How many you see them on bgs. While they can cheese, they aren't as good as they used to be.

    But almost every single player have a r5 scorp, doom and FAM. And most players still run em on bgs.
    Mags and Ghost are the textbook definitions of Broken. Just because you aren't using them, or you aren't seeing them being used in BGs, doesn't mean that they aren't broken, it means they just aren't being utilized in BGs. Both are still amazing in all other content in the game with both having a lot of potential in BGs still.
    I'm not saying in the context of bgs. I know they are broken, and I know bgs aren't the only game mode that matters.

    I believe if they release em as 7*s they would be still balanced. Also my question is genuine, Mags and ghost aren't ranked up a lot by people.
    I honestly believe they had their time (this is just a opinion and I might be wrong) and needs a revival as 7* star status.
    I guess my response to that is different for each champ, but generally they are both so powerful that when you need that ability to punch up they arguably do it at a level that far exceeds their rarity and rank.

    Red Mags, vs #metal has access to an insanely powerful AAR, and shuts off healing, miss and autoblock by just starting the fight. Then add in his access to huge special and DOT damage… he punches up almost another rarity.

    Ghost… nobody flips the script on damaging debuffs the way she does. It’s insane how hard she hits in these scenarios, add in a power back boost and a synergy team and she’s crushing. I actually have an R5a Ghost and with recoils she’s casually dropping 26k mediums… it’s goofy
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,384 ★★★★★
    NONYABIZZ said:

    I can see BWDO getting a huge resurgence as a 7* because of her nuke potential and great damage.
    Stealth spidey will have a spider ham level of glow up with the 7* release and will be very good.

    Wasp will also benefit A LOT from being a 7* and I personally would want her if she was available.

    As others have said, jubilee could also see some value as a 7*

    I NAMED champions who are NOT regarded as the BEST OF THE BEST in their class right now as 6* but could definitely get in that argument as 7* because I know kabam does not want the BEST OF THE BEST as 7* in the meantime so I thought rationally on this subject.

    Kabam needs to start adding good options as 7* who actually have POTENTIAL not that rubbish reunion pool we got last month

    BWDO would be insane, she’s also got a very very powerful Miss counter built in too
  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 4,331 ★★★★★
    My r6 bwdo is my go to photon counter just parry and play lol
  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 4,331 ★★★★★
    Problem is all these people you want in the titan, I have at least r4 asc awakened. Toad, iceman, bwdo, yellowjacket, wasp, stealthy all r4 asc or above. I've invested too much to get them as 7 stars now. If they get added im not opening titans.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,568 ★★★★★
    Pikolu said:

    I only want Nebula as a 7* tbh

    You got sersi, you can't have both 🙄
  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 4,331 ★★★★★
    PT_99 said:

    Pikolu said:

    I only want Nebula as a 7* tbh

    You got sersi, you can't have both 🙄
    I need 7 star sersi so bad, still have rank up mats waiting for her
  • PikoluPikolu Member, Guardian Posts: 7,786 Guardian
    PT_99 said:

    Pikolu said:

    I only want Nebula as a 7* tbh

    You got sersi, you can't have both 🙄
    But just imagine how good r3 7* Nebula would be with recoil masteries and synergies. The 6* r5 (not ascended) could beat abyss OR in 2 sp3 cycles. Would be cool to see how much she could do as a r3 7* against necro enemies
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    I only disagree with FAM and Scorpion cause they would make some current meta relevant defenders completely irrelevant, even unawakened both of them at r3 would make defenders like Man-Thing and Onslaught completely garbage. Everything else, I 100% agree with though.

    As for the ones I would add to that list
    Skill: Valk.
    Mutant: nobody else but I gotta say, if Iceman became a 7* with the increased crit rating stat he could potentially become a top 5 mutant cause crit rating is the only thing messing with his damage.
    Tech: Viv.
    Cosmic: Thor, Annihilus (I don't think people realize Annihilus is pretty decent nowadays, if he was a 7* I'm sure people would use him more I think he's very underrated).
    Mystic: Abs Man.
    Science: Anti-Venom, Miles.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,646 ★★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    I only disagree with FAM and Scorpion cause they would make some current meta relevant defenders completely irrelevant, even unawakened both of them at r3 would make defenders like Man-Thing and Onslaught completely garbage. Everything else, I 100% agree with though.

    As for the ones I would add to that list
    Skill: Valk.
    Mutant: nobody else but I gotta say, if Iceman became a 7* with the increased crit rating stat he could potentially become a top 5 mutant cause crit rating is the only thing messing with his damage.
    Tech: Viv.
    Cosmic: Thor, Annihilus (I don't think people realize Annihilus is pretty decent nowadays, if he was a 7* I'm sure people would use him more I think he's very underrated).
    Mystic: Abs Man.
    Science: Anti-Venom, Miles.

    Annihilius sucks in offense despite apply gazillion armor breaks. Thor kinda needs high sig to get his damage. Annihilius could be a good addition to 7* but I'll say thor needs a slight tune up before getting 7* status since all he got is just damage
  • ItsClobberinTimeItsClobberinTime Member Posts: 5,444 ★★★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    ItsClobberinTime said:

    I only disagree with FAM and Scorpion cause they would make some current meta relevant defenders completely irrelevant, even unawakened both of them at r3 would make defenders like Man-Thing and Onslaught completely garbage. Everything else, I 100% agree with though.

    As for the ones I would add to that list
    Skill: Valk.
    Mutant: nobody else but I gotta say, if Iceman became a 7* with the increased crit rating stat he could potentially become a top 5 mutant cause crit rating is the only thing messing with his damage.
    Tech: Viv.
    Cosmic: Thor, Annihilus (I don't think people realize Annihilus is pretty decent nowadays, if he was a 7* I'm sure people would use him more I think he's very underrated).
    Mystic: Abs Man.
    Science: Anti-Venom, Miles.

    Annihilius sucks in offense despite apply gazillion armor breaks. Thor kinda needs high sig to get his damage. Annihilius could be a good addition to 7* but I'll say thor needs a slight tune up before getting 7* status since all he got is just damage
    It's not the armor breaks it's the furies from the stiffles that make him hit hard, if he had more crit rating he'd be a lot better.

    As for Thor, I wouldn't mind this version tbh. If they do plan on buffing him though, then yeah they should wait.
  • SirGamesBondSirGamesBond Member Posts: 5,190 ★★★★★
    I want Night crawler dupe.
  • Joker1976Joker1976 Member Posts: 726 ★★★
    JLordVileJ said:

    PT_99 said:

    Pikolu said:

    I only want Nebula as a 7* tbh

    You got sersi, you can't have both 🙄
    I need 7 star sersi so bad, still have rank up mats waiting for her
    Would trade you my R1 duped 7* Sersi for 30k 7* shards,..if we could 😂…just saying.
  • Joker1976Joker1976 Member Posts: 726 ★★★
    Knowing my luck though I’d probably land another Sersi.
  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,384 ★★★★★
    ItsClobberinTime said:

    I only disagree with FAM and Scorpion cause they would make some current meta relevant defenders completely irrelevant, even unawakened both of them at r3 would make defenders like Man-Thing and Onslaught completely garbage. Everything else, I 100% agree with though.

    As for the ones I would add to that list
    Skill: Valk.
    Mutant: nobody else but I gotta say, if Iceman became a 7* with the increased crit rating stat he could potentially become a top 5 mutant cause crit rating is the only thing messing with his damage.
    Tech: Viv.
    Cosmic: Thor, Annihilus (I don't think people realize Annihilus is pretty decent nowadays, if he was a 7* I'm sure people would use him more I think he's very underrated).
    Mystic: Abs Man.
    Science: Anti-Venom, Miles.

    I don’t see a problem with getting equivalently rated attackers to deal with meta defenders, and both have enough strong counters where one more isn’t gonna hurt either.

    Love the Miles add, I think he’d be pretty fun with more reliable Crits.

    Valkyrie I played with, but put her in the same category with Red Mags and Ghost…. She’s got a Quake like ability to avoid so much… but that said the AI these days has nerfed her where that probably won’t matter
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 7,686 ★★★★★
    edited October 7
    Tech: Nimrod
    Mutant: Apocalypse
    Cosmic: Galan
    Mystic: Rintrah
    Science: Ibom
    Skill: Valkyrie
  • VaniteliaVanitelia Member Posts: 487 ★★★
    BWDO would be fantastic. Same with Toad. YJ for science. Need more taunt/power sting champs. Silver Centurion would be nice for tech. OG Thor for cosmic. Mephisto for mystic.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 9,646 ★★★★★
    No one mentioned human torch he could be a great Science class addition
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