What is the problem of Kabam???????

I'm playing Battlegrounds from a week; my champions rating is 1.4 million So why I got 4 million rating players. most of time the legend players came against me, why?

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Graves_3

I'm playing Battlegrounds from a week; my champions rating is 1.4 million So why I got 4 million rating players. most of time the legend players came against me, why?

Can you give a reason why they should not match against you in an open competition?

WednesdayLength

It's an open competition, you fight anyone in the same tier as you. Since it's the start of the season a lot of people are in the lower tiers still

MizuriNicole

people here be defending Kabam and root issue while it same as saying in real life:
Why the 100lb guy wont compete vs 200lb guy ?
100m swimmer against 200m swimmer
Heavy lifting against a folk in Judu...

You dont see it, right ? exactly. because there are brackets for specified qualifications.
The fact that in Diamond bracket 1st week can be seen a 1m Cav, 2m TB, 3m Paragon and 7m Valiant is W-I-L-D.

Zero defense for Kabam here, the execution and progress of the Battlegrounds Blitz just further
proves my point that the engagement in this mode falls drasticaly and many burnt out players.

ahmynuts

people here be defending Kabam and root issue while it same as saying in real life:
Why the 100lb guy wont compete vs 200lb guy ?
100m swimmer against 200m swimmer
Heavy lifting against a folk in Judu...

You dont see it, right ? exactly. because there are brackets for specified qualifications.
The fact that in Diamond bracket 1st week can be seen a 1m Cav, 2m TB, 3m Paragon and 7m Valiant is W-I-L-D.

Zero defense for Kabam here, the execution and progress of the Battlegrounds Blitz just further
proves my point that the engagement in this mode falls drasticaly and many burnt out players.

Your logic is flawed as in your example different weight classes have different prizes. They're essentially different competitions.
Bgs is a single big competition where everyone is competing for the same prizes. Trophy tokens.

MizuriNicole

@ahmynuts wrong !
They could make brackets for each category that eventually meet up all together in GC !
Valiants + Paragons Bracket
Thronebreaker + Cavalier Bracket
Uncollected on there, especially the fact they are new to the game !

Graves_3

people here be defending Kabam and root issue while it same as saying in real life:
Why the 100lb guy wont compete vs 200lb guy ?
100m swimmer against 200m swimmer
Heavy lifting against a folk in Judu...

You dont see it, right ? exactly. because there are brackets for specified qualifications.
The fact that in Diamond bracket 1st week can be seen a 1m Cav, 2m TB, 3m Paragon and 7m Valiant is W-I-L-D.

Zero defense for Kabam here, the execution and progress of the Battlegrounds Blitz just further
proves my point that the engagement in this mode falls drasticaly and many burnt out players.

In all examples you cited, there are different rewards for different categories. In BG’s everyone gets the same rewards for advancing regardless of progression or account strength.

ahmynuts

@ahmynuts wrong !
They could make brackets for each category that eventually meet up all together in GC !
Valiants + Paragons Bracket
Thronebreaker + Cavalier Bracket
Uncollected on there, especially the fact they are new to the game !

They could do that. But that's not what's currently happening. So once again. Your logic cannot apply to the current format of battlegrounds.

It's more like the world tournament from DragonBall. Anyone can enter but you might be mr. Satan and face goku

ahmynuts

people here be defending Kabam and root issue while it same as saying in real life:
Why the 100lb guy wont compete vs 200lb guy ?
100m swimmer against 200m swimmer
Heavy lifting against a folk in Judu...

You dont see it, right ? exactly. because there are brackets for specified qualifications.
The fact that in Diamond bracket 1st week can be seen a 1m Cav, 2m TB, 3m Paragon and 7m Valiant is W-I-L-D.

Zero defense for Kabam here, the execution and progress of the Battlegrounds Blitz just further
proves my point that the engagement in this mode falls drasticaly and many burnt out players.
In all examples you cited, there are different rewards for different categories. In BG’s everyone gets the same rewards for advancing regardless of progression or account strength.

I'm genuinely surprised they didn't realize that before posting like they were onto something

Furrymoosen

people here be defending Kabam and root issue while it same as saying in real life:
Why the 100lb guy wont compete vs 200lb guy ?
100m swimmer against 200m swimmer
Heavy lifting against a folk in Judu...

You dont see it, right ? exactly. because there are brackets for specified qualifications.
The fact that in Diamond bracket 1st week can be seen a 1m Cav, 2m TB, 3m Paragon and 7m Valiant is W-I-L-D.

Zero defense for Kabam here, the execution and progress of the Battlegrounds Blitz just further
proves my point that the engagement in this mode falls drasticaly and many burnt out players.

If a 100lb guy wants to compete for the heavyweight title, then yeah, he should fight the 200lb guy. You can't compare competitions with multiple classes with a competition that has everyone in the same class.
Nobody is defending Kabam when we argue that the current matchmaking system is fair. We defend the sound logic of if everyone is stuck going for the same rewards that everyone can and should have to fight anyone.

MizuriNicole

dont know any imaginary anime tournament.weird comparison but okey.

I know how it works in real life and I know many games has brackets as well for it to be F-A-I-R.
Never in my life Ive met a game community that every monday and thursday has many complains in its
forum about unfair matchmaking like MCOC has....

Buttehrs

dont know any imaginary anime tournament.weird comparison but okey.

I know how it works in real life and I know many games has brackets as well for it to be F-A-I-R.
Never in my life Ive met a game community that every monday and thursday has many complains in its
forum about unfair matchmaking like MCOC has....

Maybe educate yourself then. Hard to believe someone hasn't ever heard of DragonBall. That's what's wierd.

Captainaiden

dont know any imaginary anime tournament.weird comparison but okey.

I know how it works in real life and I know many games has brackets as well for it to be F-A-I-R.
Never in my life Ive met a game community that every monday and thursday has many complains in its
forum about unfair matchmaking like MCOC has....

Easy, because you always blame people, not your self, that why you always complaint

Furrymoosen

dont know any imaginary anime tournament.weird comparison but okey.

I know how it works in real life and I know many games has brackets as well for it to be F-A-I-R.
Never in my life Ive met a game community that every monday and thursday has many complains in its
forum about unfair matchmaking like MCOC has....

There are two fair options and only two.
1) Open competition as it is now where all players have access to all rewards and can push as far as their rosters and skill can take them.
2) Create lower level BGs with reduced rewards so players can complain about how they don't get access to the good rewards.

Pick your poison.

shield311

people here be defending Kabam and root issue while it same as saying in real life:
Why the 100lb guy wont compete vs 200lb guy ?
100m swimmer against 200m swimmer
Heavy lifting against a folk in Judu...

You dont see it, right ? exactly. because there are brackets for specified qualifications.
The fact that in Diamond bracket 1st week can be seen a 1m Cav, 2m TB, 3m Paragon and 7m Valiant is W-I-L-D.

Zero defense for Kabam here, the execution and progress of the Battlegrounds Blitz just further
proves my point that the engagement in this mode falls drasticaly and many burnt out players.

That's actually not relevant and the reason is broad, your example of weight lifting isn't valid here since not every human body can peak as well as someone else does, its all financial, physical and mental. About bgs, every summoner can become valiant if played right and you do not have to pay money or anything else, 30mins - 1hr a day is more than enough to hit valiant within a month or two. Growing in rating is also similar to this.

MrSakuragi

@ahmynuts wrong !
They could make brackets for each category that eventually meet up all together in GC !
Valiants + Paragons Bracket
Thronebreaker + Cavalier Bracket
Uncollected on there, especially the fact they are new to the game !

Why should it be easier for Thronebreakers to get to GC than those above them?

WinterFields

There's another solution people don't like to hear. Focus on story content and progressing your roster before seriously attempting an open competition. You can spend time complaining or do something about it

PT_99

people here be defending Kabam and root issue while it same as saying in real life:
Why the 100lb guy wont compete vs 200lb guy ?
100m swimmer against 200m swimmer
Heavy lifting against a folk in Judu...

You dont see it, right ? exactly. because there are brackets for specified qualifications.
The fact that in Diamond bracket 1st week can be seen a 1m Cav, 2m TB, 3m Paragon and 7m Valiant is W-I-L-D.

Zero defense for Kabam here, the execution and progress of the Battlegrounds Blitz just further
proves my point that the engagement in this mode falls drasticaly and many burnt out players.

Well 100 vs 200lb also fight for different titles, should you low tier players also get different rewards? 😘
Or do you want same high rewards for less effort?

Ayden_noah1

people here be defending Kabam and root issue while it same as saying in real life:
Why the 100lb guy wont compete vs 200lb guy ?
100m swimmer against 200m swimmer
Heavy lifting against a folk in Judu...

You dont see it, right ? exactly. because there are brackets for specified qualifications.
The fact that in Diamond bracket 1st week can be seen a 1m Cav, 2m TB, 3m Paragon and 7m Valiant is W-I-L-D.

Zero defense for Kabam here, the execution and progress of the Battlegrounds Blitz just further
proves my point that the engagement in this mode falls drasticaly and many burnt out players.

A good example is the sport like swimming, track and field, skiing and most of the events that doesn't involved weight class. Anyone can try and compete, but the person with the training, dedication, resources and, commitment will have an big advantage compare to someone who is just getting started. Also I'm not sure about your swimming anolgy would make any sense since most of the best 100 m swimmers are great at the 200m as well. In MCOC BG it's an open competition and anyone can join if they wish to so they have made it a one division competition tournament. Is it fair to the lower level players to face the big accounts, no, is it fair that the top accounts who have worked hard and advance their accounts to only face each other, no. It's like saying if I beat all my local sprinters at the 100m than I should be consider the faster person in the world and benefit from all the prize money, commercials succes and fame. We can all agree that doesn't make much sense.

I have advocate since BG started that Kabam should have introduce different tiers for BG based on your progressions levels with matching rewards plus have an open division for anyone who wants to really test their might with the best rewards. Now in saying this, you must understand that the tier rewards will be like the monthly quest rewards. If you can live with those rewards then Kabam should make this happen. The problem is those rewards won't help you advance your roster. So now you will complain about how Uncollect, TB, Cavalier, etc are not getting rewards to help them progress in the game. KABAMMED ONCE AGAIN.

Joker1976

Simple,..just wait a week or two.

Wicket329

Let’s say OP and others with this constant complaint get what they’re asking for and we break BGs into a bracket for each progression title. Uncollected, Cavalier, Thronebreaker, Paragon, and Valiant, so five total brackets. First immediate problem is that means matchmaking is gonna take at least five times as long. I hope you like loading screens, because you’ll spend a lot more time looking at them if you cut the pool of available matches that dramatically.

Second, in order to make this work at all, the best way rewards of one bracket must be worse than the worst rewards of the next bracket up. If you don’t design it this way, you create incentives not to progress, to linger as a big fish in a small pond.

It is unlikely that Kabam would buff the rewards for Valiant in creating this system, so we should take that as a cap. Then create four more tiers beneath that with no overlap. Does this really still sound like a good idea to you?

giuppy04

people here be defending Kabam and root issue while it same as saying in real life:
Why the 100lb guy wont compete vs 200lb guy ?
100m swimmer against 200m swimmer
Heavy lifting against a folk in Judu...

You dont see it, right ? exactly. because there are brackets for specified qualifications.
The fact that in Diamond bracket 1st week can be seen a 1m Cav, 2m TB, 3m Paragon and 7m Valiant is W-I-L-D.

Zero defense for Kabam here, the execution and progress of the Battlegrounds Blitz just further
proves my point that the engagement in this mode falls drasticaly and many burnt out players.
Your logic is flawed as in your example different weight classes have different prizes. They're essentially different competitions.
Bgs is a single big competition where everyone is competing for the same prizes. Trophy tokens.

Tbh, it's not exactly "for the same prizes" since Cavaliers, Tbs, Paragons and so on can buy different items with the same trophy tokens, because they have different shops

ahmynuts

people here be defending Kabam and root issue while it same as saying in real life:
Why the 100lb guy wont compete vs 200lb guy ?
100m swimmer against 200m swimmer
Heavy lifting against a folk in Judu...

You dont see it, right ? exactly. because there are brackets for specified qualifications.
The fact that in Diamond bracket 1st week can be seen a 1m Cav, 2m TB, 3m Paragon and 7m Valiant is W-I-L-D.

Zero defense for Kabam here, the execution and progress of the Battlegrounds Blitz just further
proves my point that the engagement in this mode falls drasticaly and many burnt out players.
Your logic is flawed as in your example different weight classes have different prizes. They're essentially different competitions.
Bgs is a single big competition where everyone is competing for the same prizes. Trophy tokens.
Tbh, it's not exactly "for the same prizes" since Cavaliers, Tbs, Paragons and so on can buy different items with the same trophy tokens, because they have different shops

The prize is the trophy tokens and the amount of them you receive. The store is separate from that.

giuppy04

The prize is the trophy tokens and the amount of them you receive. The store is separate from that.

I'm sorry but I don't completely agree. The prizes actually consist of two components: the trophy tokens and VT or GC points. While the latter are effectively the same for all players, the former allow you to purchase different items, so they are not the same, since no one keeps the tokens in themselves: they only have value for what they allow you to purchase in the shop.

Pikolu

The prize is the trophy tokens and the amount of them you receive. The store is separate from that.
I'm sorry but I don't completely agree. The prizes actually consist of two components: the trophy tokens and VT or GC points. While the latter are effectively the same for all players, the former allow you to purchase different items, so they are not the same, since no one keeps the tokens in themselves: they only have value for what they allow you to purchase in the shop.

Fun fact, 100 US dollars isn't worth a lot in the US. That would barely buy you a week or so of food. However, in many third world countries, you can thrive on less than 30 US dollars per month.

Furrymoosen

The prize is the trophy tokens and the amount of them you receive. The store is separate from that.
I'm sorry but I don't completely agree. The prizes actually consist of two components: the trophy tokens and VT or GC points. While the latter are effectively the same for all players, the former allow you to purchase different items, so they are not the same, since no one keeps the tokens in themselves: they only have value for what they allow you to purchase in the shop.

You don't have to beat other players to progress in the game and unlock those stores. If you want the best rewards, you need to do both.

Sundance_2099

I believe the correct response here is:

git gud.

ahmynuts

The prize is the trophy tokens and the amount of them you receive. The store is separate from that.
I'm sorry but I don't completely agree. The prizes actually consist of two components: the trophy tokens and VT or GC points. While the latter are effectively the same for all players, the former allow you to purchase different items, so they are not the same, since no one keeps the tokens in themselves: they only have value for what they allow you to purchase in the shop.

Take it up with Kabam who said that not me 💀💀

SirGamesBond

The prize is the trophy tokens and the amount of them you receive. The store is separate from that.
I'm sorry but I don't completely agree. The prizes actually consist of two components: the trophy tokens and VT or GC points. While the latter are effectively the same for all players, the former allow you to purchase different items, so they are not the same, since no one keeps the tokens in themselves: they only have value for what they allow you to purchase in the shop.

You don't have to beat other players to progress in the game and unlock those stores. If you want the best rewards, you need to do both.

This is rather the best take.
Take your main Focus outside of BGs first.
Get progressing first, then work on BGs.
Current state of BGs is not optimal for less progressed accounts.

BringPopcorn

The prize is the trophy tokens and the amount of them you receive. The store is separate from that.
I'm sorry but I don't completely agree. The prizes actually consist of two components: the trophy tokens and VT or GC points. While the latter are effectively the same for all players, the former allow you to purchase different items, so they are not the same, since no one keeps the tokens in themselves: they only have value for what they allow you to purchase in the shop.

You don't have to beat other players to progress in the game and unlock those stores. If you want the best rewards, you need to do both.
This is rather the best take.
Take your main Focus outside of BGs first.
Get progressing first, then work on BGs.
Current state of BGs is not optimal for less progressed accounts.

And that's why all rewards should be progression tiered. A red lock should be incentive to progressing.

Maat1985

i cannot believe that a player in bronze is only ever facing accounts much larger than them and never facing accounts similar or smaller.

yes it will happen but they will certainly get a mix.
it just has to happen.
there is a mix of all account sizes in the brackets.
also as the season goes on the volume of larger accounts in the lower brackets will decrease and therefore you have a higher chance of finding smaller accounts to match with.

and if this is a problem that gets worse once they hit gold or something, then OH WELL
such is life.
you have clearly climbed to the point where you are no longer going to be able to proceed unless you grow your account.

if you are a small account, focus on other areas of the game to grow your account and accept that bgs will be very difficult for a small account.