Why I’m quitting the game. Busted AI, horrible RNG

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  • peixemacacopeixemacaco Member Posts: 2,954 ★★★★
    Congrats on your pulls

    Awesome Champs!
  • Animatrix240Animatrix240 Member Posts: 113
    DNA3000 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Accidently posted stryfe by accident, but y’all get the point. Anyway, for those who are still playing. I hope you guys are all enjoying the game. And take care ❤️😁, the past 5 years back have been a blast. Anyway time to move on from mobile gaming.

    You mean "accidentally posted good pulls"?


    No one knows who you are.
    I know him. And while those are generally good champions pulling sigs on them is near useless
    It's Titan shards, it's ISO and they aren't bad pulls. Duping champs is part of the game. You can't play for 9 years and not understand this part of it. It's just crybaby whining.

    I can understand being frustrated with AI but quitting because of RNG is stupid.
    im quitting for a numerous amounts of things in the game. Like asking $80 dollars for 7* shards and titan shards. Which doesn’t guarantee anything but shards. Serpent staying unchanged, the recent AI being a pain. And yes, it sucks to grind 15K shards over and over again, only to dupe another champs. Also my last titan was a Nova dupe so don’t even bring up titan 😂.And it’s my time, if I decide I want to spend it somewhere else, other than this game, it’s my choice. Nothing stupid about it. The only thing that’s stupid, is that you care.
    1. If you're quitting because you spent $80 on shards, you could have stopped doing that instead. If you're quitting because other people are spending $80 on shards, you could have allowed them to spend their money on things you don't think are worth it instead.

    2. If you're quitting because the devs disagree with you about a balancing decision, I'm not sure how you lasted this long. Nor do I have any idea what activity you're going to be moving on to where everyone agrees with you all the time. Cult leader is the only option that comes to mind.

    3. It is in fact your time to do with as you wish, and if you aren't having fun anymore, then it is time to move on. But nobody says "this is why I'm quitting" when they just stop having fun and decide to leave. They do it because they think their quitting is supposed to be meaningful. I'm pretty sure thousands of players quit yesterday, and thousands will quit tomorrow. Thousands more will replace them. It happens with every mobile game. If you decide to quit, that's your choice, but it really shouldn't, and likely won't, affect anyone else's decisions nor the game developers.

    You say it is stupid that another player cares about your reasoning. But if you think no one should care, why express it publicly? I'm pretty sure you want people to care.
    Not really, the Devs genuinely do care why people quit. Especially big spenders. I didn’t spend $80 on the dumb deals cause their pricing was trash. I’m upset, that the AI is undoubtedly worse. Everyone literally agrees serpent should have gotten a nerf, not just me. So I don’t know what you’re talking about. Also where did you get the idea everyone needs to agree with meI’m just expressing why I’m leaving, for the people I regularly play with there are also numerous people who agree the AI has gotten worse. If it has nothing to do with you, why even spend all that time typing all that nonsense. And thousands of players don’t quit everyday. Your reasoning makes zero sense. All I did was express why I am quitting this game. I don’t need a cult to agree with me wtf, if anything MCOC has felt more like a cult than anything. I mean, just look, the second someone expresses any negative feelings on the game, we get smucks like you acting like it’s a sin to talk bad about game you zealots play every day Get a life 💀. And again, this is for kabam to see. They take this feedback, instead of wondering why players quitting randomly. So be useful and screw off. Also I do care. For the people I regularly played with and talk to in global, or the MCOC twitch chats, or the other players I’ve become friends with from other streamers BG streams. So yea, some people I do care. And kabam, what was your argument?
    This is your lucky day, because I'm explicitly going to highlight your post for the devs to read, because I want them to take note of the fact that someone called me a smuck during a rant.

    They say all rants are the same, but that's definitely new.
    I didn’t call you a smuck lmao 😭.
  • Animatrix240Animatrix240 Member Posts: 113
    Joker1976 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Accidently posted stryfe by accident, but y’all get the point. Anyway, for those who are still playing. I hope you guys are all enjoying the game. And take care ❤️😁, the past 5 years back have been a blast. Anyway time to move on from mobile gaming.

    You mean "accidentally posted good pulls"?


    No one knows who you are.
    I know him. And while those are generally good champions pulling sigs on them is near useless
    It's Titan shards, it's ISO and they aren't bad pulls. Duping champs is part of the game. You can't play for 9 years and not understand this part of it. It's just crybaby whining.

    I can understand being frustrated with AI but quitting because of RNG is stupid.
    im quitting for a numerous amounts of things in the game. Like asking $80 dollars for 7* shards and titan shards. Which doesn’t guarantee anything but shards. Serpent staying unchanged, the recent AI being a pain. And yes, it sucks to grind 15K shards over and over again, only to dupe another champs. Also my last titan was a Nova dupe so don’t even bring up titan 😂.And it’s my time, if I decide I want to spend it somewhere else, other than this game, it’s my choice. Nothing stupid about it. The only thing that’s stupid, is that you care.
    1. If you're quitting because you spent $80 on shards, you could have stopped doing that instead. If you're quitting because other people are spending $80 on shards, you could have allowed them to spend their money on things you don't think are worth it instead.

    2. If you're quitting because the devs disagree with you about a balancing decision, I'm not sure how you lasted this long. Nor do I have any idea what activity you're going to be moving on to where everyone agrees with you all the time. Cult leader is the only option that comes to mind.

    3. It is in fact your time to do with as you wish, and if you aren't having fun anymore, then it is time to move on. But nobody says "this is why I'm quitting" when they just stop having fun and decide to leave. They do it because they think their quitting is supposed to be meaningful. I'm pretty sure thousands of players quit yesterday, and thousands will quit tomorrow. Thousands more will replace them. It happens with every mobile game. If you decide to quit, that's your choice, but it really shouldn't, and likely won't, affect anyone else's decisions nor the game developers.

    You say it is stupid that another player cares about your reasoning. But if you think no one should care, why express it publicly? I'm pretty sure you want people to care.
    Not really, the Devs genuinely do care why people quit. Especially big spenders. I didn’t spend $80 on the dumb deals cause their pricing was trash. I’m upset, that the AI is undoubtedly worse. Everyone literally agrees serpent should have gotten a nerf, not just me. So I don’t know what you’re talking about. Also where did you get the idea everyone needs to agree with meI’m just expressing why I’m leaving, for the people I regularly play with there are also numerous people who agree the AI has gotten worse. If it has nothing to do with you, why even spend all that time typing all that nonsense. And thousands of players don’t quit everyday. Your reasoning makes zero sense. All I did was express why I am quitting this game. I don’t need a cult to agree with me wtf, if anything MCOC has felt more like a cult than anything. I mean, just look, the second someone expresses any negative feelings on the game, we get smucks like you acting like it’s a sin to talk bad about game you zealots play every day Get a life 💀. And again, this is for kabam to see. They take this feedback, instead of wondering why players quitting randomly. So be useful and screw off. Also I do care. For the people I regularly played with and talk to in global, or the MCOC twitch chats, or the other players I’ve become friends with from other streamers BG streams. So yea, some people I do care. And kabam, what was your argument?
    I don’t think you’re “trying to get people to care” lol,.,whatever that means.
    I think you are expressing the reasoning for quitting the game, and as someone who has invested several years in it,..i think you have the right to do just that without being belittled or criticized.
    I have known people to quit for far less than horrible Rng and atrocious AI.
    The AI issues in particular have been going on for a very VERY long time and every month it seems to be something new.
    I think if i wasn’t in a retired alliance and playing the game in more or less a solo format that i would be in the same boat as you.
    Regardless all the best to you in your life post mcoc. ✌️
    Thank you 🙏 for post fam. I wish the best for you as well. I feel taking a long break from the game for a bit is the best for me. I am gonna at least finish this war for my alliance, cause I care about them, they’re the homies.
  • spidyjedi84spidyjedi84 Member Posts: 396 ★★★

    Tbh I doubt anyone really cares. But this game just isn’t enjoyable at all anymore. I find no joy in the contest anymore, and I’m actually deleting the app and moving on, I can’t take the constant bull from the devs. This AI problem is whole issue for another story, but what upsets me, is the fact I’m pretty sure they cap how many new 7*s you get a month. How I know this, I don’t have that many 7* champs, but I keep duping the same ones over and over and over again, it makes grinding not really worth it, if all I’m gonna do is dupe the same champs over and over. At this point, I’m quitting mobile gaming as a whole, as it just feels to bull to enjoy them anymore. I’m tired of playing the game and rewarded with garbage and RNG. I’m not hating on the devs who accomplished a lot, keeping a game alive for 9 plus years, is very hard to do, and very hard to please everyone. But where the game is at rn, it’s not very enjoyable anymore. Maybe one day I’ll return, but for now, I’m officially done.









    "See you again in two months."
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  • PantherusNZPantherusNZ Member Posts: 2,191 ★★★★★

  • BigBlueOxBigBlueOx Member Posts: 2,346 ★★★★★

    BeastDad said:

    I would give anything for my last several pulls to be half as good as yours.

    You don’t know what real trash is.

    Ooooog my brother what’s worse than an sig 60 mysterio or sig 40 mangog, their cheeks 😭. Even antman, I didn’t even screen shot all the bad dupes I have, it’s to many. But it’s ok I’might come back next, but gonna focus on more console gaming for a while.
    I have a sig 180 StormX… your move
  • Animatrix240Animatrix240 Member Posts: 113
    DNA3000 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Accidently posted stryfe by accident, but y’all get the point. Anyway, for those who are still playing. I hope you guys are all enjoying the game. And take care ❤️😁, the past 5 years back have been a blast. Anyway time to move on from mobile gaming.

    You mean "accidentally posted good pulls"?


    No one knows who you are.
    I know him. And while those are generally good champions pulling sigs on them is near useless
    It's Titan shards, it's ISO and they aren't bad pulls. Duping champs is part of the game. You can't play for 9 years and not understand this part of it. It's just crybaby whining.

    I can understand being frustrated with AI but quitting because of RNG is stupid.
    im quitting for a numerous amounts of things in the game. Like asking $80 dollars for 7* shards and titan shards. Which doesn’t guarantee anything but shards. Serpent staying unchanged, the recent AI being a pain. And yes, it sucks to grind 15K shards over and over again, only to dupe another champs. Also my last titan was a Nova dupe so don’t even bring up titan 😂.And it’s my time, if I decide I want to spend it somewhere else, other than this game, it’s my choice. Nothing stupid about it. The only thing that’s stupid, is that you care.
    1. If you're quitting because you spent $80 on shards, you could have stopped doing that instead. If you're quitting because other people are spending $80 on shards, you could have allowed them to spend their money on things you don't think are worth it instead.

    2. If you're quitting because the devs disagree with you about a balancing decision, I'm not sure how you lasted this long. Nor do I have any idea what activity you're going to be moving on to where everyone agrees with you all the time. Cult leader is the only option that comes to mind.

    3. It is in fact your time to do with as you wish, and if you aren't having fun anymore, then it is time to move on. But nobody says "this is why I'm quitting" when they just stop having fun and decide to leave. They do it because they think their quitting is supposed to be meaningful. I'm pretty sure thousands of players quit yesterday, and thousands will quit tomorrow. Thousands more will replace them. It happens with every mobile game. If you decide to quit, that's your choice, but it really shouldn't, and likely won't, affect anyone else's decisions nor the game developers.

    You say it is stupid that another player cares about your reasoning. But if you think no one should care, why express it publicly? I'm pretty sure you want people to care.
    Not really, the Devs genuinely do care why people quit. Especially big spenders. I didn’t spend $80 on the dumb deals cause their pricing was trash. I’m upset, that the AI is undoubtedly worse. Everyone literally agrees serpent should have gotten a nerf, not just me. So I don’t know what you’re talking about. Also where did you get the idea everyone needs to agree with meI’m just expressing why I’m leaving, for the people I regularly play with there are also numerous people who agree the AI has gotten worse. If it has nothing to do with you, why even spend all that time typing all that nonsense. And thousands of players don’t quit everyday. Your reasoning makes zero sense. All I did was express why I am quitting this game. I don’t need a cult to agree with me wtf, if anything MCOC has felt more like a cult than anything. I mean, just look, the second someone expresses any negative feelings on the game, we get smucks like you acting like it’s a sin to talk bad about game you zealots play every day Get a life 💀. And again, this is for kabam to see. They take this feedback, instead of wondering why players quitting randomly. So be useful and screw off. Also I do care. For the people I regularly played with and talk to in global, or the MCOC twitch chats, or the other players I’ve become friends with from other streamers BG streams. So yea, some people I do care. And kabam, what was your argument?
    This is your lucky day, because I'm explicitly going to highlight your post for the devs to read, because I want them to take note of the fact that someone called me a smuck during a rant.

    They say all rants are the same, but that's definitely new.
    I didn’t call you a smuck lmao 😭.
    Technically, you called other people smucks that resemble me, but I presumed out of arrogance that would make me Smuck Prime.
    wtf are you on about? Ah its whatever, I don’t even know what your goofy self is on about.
  • FurrymoosenFurrymoosen Member Posts: 3,819 ★★★★★

    DNA3000 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    DNA3000 said:

    Accidently posted stryfe by accident, but y’all get the point. Anyway, for those who are still playing. I hope you guys are all enjoying the game. And take care ❤️😁, the past 5 years back have been a blast. Anyway time to move on from mobile gaming.

    You mean "accidentally posted good pulls"?


    No one knows who you are.
    I know him. And while those are generally good champions pulling sigs on them is near useless
    It's Titan shards, it's ISO and they aren't bad pulls. Duping champs is part of the game. You can't play for 9 years and not understand this part of it. It's just crybaby whining.

    I can understand being frustrated with AI but quitting because of RNG is stupid.
    im quitting for a numerous amounts of things in the game. Like asking $80 dollars for 7* shards and titan shards. Which doesn’t guarantee anything but shards. Serpent staying unchanged, the recent AI being a pain. And yes, it sucks to grind 15K shards over and over again, only to dupe another champs. Also my last titan was a Nova dupe so don’t even bring up titan 😂.And it’s my time, if I decide I want to spend it somewhere else, other than this game, it’s my choice. Nothing stupid about it. The only thing that’s stupid, is that you care.
    1. If you're quitting because you spent $80 on shards, you could have stopped doing that instead. If you're quitting because other people are spending $80 on shards, you could have allowed them to spend their money on things you don't think are worth it instead.

    2. If you're quitting because the devs disagree with you about a balancing decision, I'm not sure how you lasted this long. Nor do I have any idea what activity you're going to be moving on to where everyone agrees with you all the time. Cult leader is the only option that comes to mind.

    3. It is in fact your time to do with as you wish, and if you aren't having fun anymore, then it is time to move on. But nobody says "this is why I'm quitting" when they just stop having fun and decide to leave. They do it because they think their quitting is supposed to be meaningful. I'm pretty sure thousands of players quit yesterday, and thousands will quit tomorrow. Thousands more will replace them. It happens with every mobile game. If you decide to quit, that's your choice, but it really shouldn't, and likely won't, affect anyone else's decisions nor the game developers.

    You say it is stupid that another player cares about your reasoning. But if you think no one should care, why express it publicly? I'm pretty sure you want people to care.
    Not really, the Devs genuinely do care why people quit. Especially big spenders. I didn’t spend $80 on the dumb deals cause their pricing was trash. I’m upset, that the AI is undoubtedly worse. Everyone literally agrees serpent should have gotten a nerf, not just me. So I don’t know what you’re talking about. Also where did you get the idea everyone needs to agree with meI’m just expressing why I’m leaving, for the people I regularly play with there are also numerous people who agree the AI has gotten worse. If it has nothing to do with you, why even spend all that time typing all that nonsense. And thousands of players don’t quit everyday. Your reasoning makes zero sense. All I did was express why I am quitting this game. I don’t need a cult to agree with me wtf, if anything MCOC has felt more like a cult than anything. I mean, just look, the second someone expresses any negative feelings on the game, we get smucks like you acting like it’s a sin to talk bad about game you zealots play every day Get a life 💀. And again, this is for kabam to see. They take this feedback, instead of wondering why players quitting randomly. So be useful and screw off. Also I do care. For the people I regularly played with and talk to in global, or the MCOC twitch chats, or the other players I’ve become friends with from other streamers BG streams. So yea, some people I do care. And kabam, what was your argument?
    This is your lucky day, because I'm explicitly going to highlight your post for the devs to read, because I want them to take note of the fact that someone called me a smuck during a rant.

    They say all rants are the same, but that's definitely new.
    I didn’t call you a smuck lmao 😭.
    Technically, you called other people smucks that resemble me, but I presumed out of arrogance that would make me Smuck Prime.
    wtf are you on about? Ah its whatever, I don’t even know what your goofy self is on about.
    Pretty sure he's on about where you said "we get smucks like you". You called him a smuck and now it's on the internet forever.
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,653 Guardian
    NüΚΞ said:

    I care mate, and I am close behind you. They keeps saying it will take months. They need to urgently realize that this needs to happen NOW. Fix the AI put everything else on hold. How do you not see the threat to your game?

    Actually, Kabam isn't just constantly saying "it will take months." In fact, they said a while back that due to all those technical complications about how AI works that hurt people's brains, it will be impossible to stabilize AI until an entire new AI system is created, which is to say they aren't replacing one AI system with another one, they are really building one for the first time ever, because what the AI used to do was just do random things that happened to look like entity AI.

    Until that entirely new actual for-realsies AI mechanism is created for the game, the AI will never, ever, ever be 100% perfectly consistent. AI isn't broken. There is no AI. There's just a bunch of random twitching that looks like AI.

    What exactly do you want them to do "now?" Build an entire AI system from scratch? Right now?
  • startropicsstartropics Member Posts: 877 ★★★★
    some of these complaints are like boycotting 7 eleven cause one of the flavors in the slurpee machine is on back order and you've got people loitering outside having a therapy session over it while warning customers not to go in.

    "i am temporarily inconvenienced. 7 eleven evil. NO MORE."
  • NüΚΞNüΚΞ Member Posts: 259 ★★★
    DNA3000 said:

    NüΚΞ said:

    I care mate, and I am close behind you. They keeps saying it will take months. They need to urgently realize that this needs to happen NOW. Fix the AI put everything else on hold. How do you not see the threat to your game?

    Actually, Kabam isn't just constantly saying "it will take months." In fact, they said a while back that due to all those technical complications about how AI works that hurt people's brains, it will be impossible to stabilize AI until an entire new AI system is created, which is to say they aren't replacing one AI system with another one, they are really building one for the first time ever, because what the AI used to do was just do random things that happened to look like entity AI.

    Until that entirely new actual for-realsies AI mechanism is created for the game, the AI will never, ever, ever be 100% perfectly consistent. AI isn't broken. There is no AI. There's just a bunch of random twitching that looks like AI.

    What exactly do you want them to do "now?" Build an entire AI system from scratch? Right now?
    Throughout the past year going back to Kabam Mike and Canada man yeah that line was used in the past.
  • SagaChampionSagaChampion Member Posts: 1,345 ★★★
    Chavez & Shuri is Good Pull
  • DNA3000DNA3000 Member, Guardian Posts: 19,653 Guardian
    NüΚΞ said:

    DNA3000 said:

    NüΚΞ said:

    I care mate, and I am close behind you. They keeps saying it will take months. They need to urgently realize that this needs to happen NOW. Fix the AI put everything else on hold. How do you not see the threat to your game?

    Actually, Kabam isn't just constantly saying "it will take months." In fact, they said a while back that due to all those technical complications about how AI works that hurt people's brains, it will be impossible to stabilize AI until an entire new AI system is created, which is to say they aren't replacing one AI system with another one, they are really building one for the first time ever, because what the AI used to do was just do random things that happened to look like entity AI.

    Until that entirely new actual for-realsies AI mechanism is created for the game, the AI will never, ever, ever be 100% perfectly consistent. AI isn't broken. There is no AI. There's just a bunch of random twitching that looks like AI.

    What exactly do you want them to do "now?" Build an entire AI system from scratch? Right now?
    Most people that come here to talk about the AI are looking for transparency and a game plan, none of which has been shared with a follow through. You obviously have a lot of knowledge about the structure of game. A lot of us don’t, and that doesn’t matter.

    Wanting to know why something has changed and when it will be fixed is not some ludicrous ask man. You act like anyone coming here to ask WHY AND WHEN is some affront. People coming to the forums with evidence of AI changing its patterns is helpful to figure out what is going on. I have been on the forums talking about the AI for awhile and bringing videos of odd behaviors and changes to what most consider typical AI behavior.

    I don’t understand coding and the structure of the game like you do, and no I’m not expecting them to re-write the code or whatever else you’re going on about. I do think it should be a top priority over other things. I do believe transparency at this point would go A LONG WAY to establishing trust.
    These people you are describing with reasonable requests? I have no problem with them. I responded to your post, which I will quote:
    NüΚΞ said:

    I care mate, and I am close behind you. They keeps saying it will take months. They need to urgently realize that this needs to happen NOW. Fix the AI put everything else on hold. How do you not see the threat to your game?

    Which is none of those reasonable requests you seem to think I have an issue with.
  • shield311shield311 Member Posts: 832 ★★★

    some of these complaints are like boycotting 7 eleven cause one of the flavors in the slurpee machine is on back order and you've got people loitering outside having a therapy session over it while warning customers not to go in.

    "i am temporarily inconvenienced. 7 eleven evil. NO MORE."

    Most logical interpretation of his post is - he is seeking attention 🤷‍♀️
    Like some fellow summoners mentioned, too much yap for someone who quit and the reasons are just 🤓😹😹 ai is horrible rn true but everyone is dealing with it, no one forced him to buy a terrible offer either, everyone has useless pulls and calling sigs on chavez "trash" is next level stupidity, you can't be pulling onslaught bullseye serpent every crystal
  • MRpopoMRpopo Member Posts: 6
    this is really entertaining
  • FrostGiantLordFrostGiantLord Member Posts: 2,057 ★★★★
    Duped Shuri and Chavez are great, what're you on about?
  • Joker1976Joker1976 Member Posts: 723 ★★★

    some of these complaints are like boycotting 7 eleven cause one of the flavors in the slurpee machine is on back order and you've got people loitering outside having a therapy session over it while warning customers not to go in.

    "i am temporarily inconvenienced. 7 eleven evil. NO MORE."

    I just think this comment is funny because 7-eleven just announced that they are closing more than 400 stores throughout North America 😂
    Should have had a surplus of those slurpee flavours i guess 😅.
  • FinalfurykFinalfuryk Member Posts: 310 ★★★
    I'm never mad about pulling good champs even if sigs are relatively useless on them. I should be mad about a sig eighty Bishop or sig 60 Shuri when I need a first time dupe on Onslaught or Photon but it's fine. I'd rather get sigs on a good champ then sigs on a bad champ. I also can understand quitting the game because of bad AI but bad RNG? Come on dude.
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