Sandman goes to r3!

ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 2,917 ★★★★★
I've been loving this dude for quite a while now. He's not the fastest champion in the game but I've found him immensely useful in a lot of non-Battlegrounds areas of the game, especially for quite a few of the Summer of Sorrow-type fights. His ability to control regen, power gain, evade and unstoppable, as well as a ton of immunities, make him an incredibly versatile champion.

Now I just need to continue to pump up his sig ability for some extra damage.


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  • ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 2,917 ★★★★★
    I don't have any vids of him as an r3 since I just ranked him up, but I have this one from when I used him (as an r2) against the Destroyer in Summer of Sadness a few weeks ago. It just so happens that I used the SP3 rotation for that fight. Aside from one little slip-up that cost me a bunch of health, it all went swimmingly and rather fast all things considered.

    I'll try to record a vid against Destroyer in the Gauntlet, but unfortunately he's behind Toad and I hate that Toad fight. But anyway, here's the old video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5aZhCEVCs4

    The neat thing about that fight is that Sandman could have used any special attack to great effect in it. Obviously the SP3 deals the big damage, but I used the SP1 very effectively on a previous attempt. It completely negates any power gain the Destroyer may have gotten. Meanwhile, the SP2 completely shuts off Destroyer's unstoppable, making him much more manageable to fight.
  • ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 2,917 ★★★★★
    Here you go, @ShashankGupta. R3 Sandman vs the Summer of Suffering Destroyer. I make a dumb mistake about a minute in that cost me some health, but otherwise it went rather well.

    I'm running the recoil masteries and am slightly boosted (to make the Toad fight prior easier).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30UbM6w1b1A
  • GhostboytjieGhostboytjie Member Posts: 2,369 ★★★★★
    Aah post nerf sandman. I've had a R5 ascended since I got him (when ascended was new and barely a thing). Man was a beast now he doesn't feel the same anymore. We were able to basicly infinite build his damage via sp3. Now we can't
  • Kingering_KingKingering_King Member Posts: 1,067 ★★★
    I love my 7* sandgoat. I will r2 him some day soon
  • ShashankGuptaShashankGupta Member Posts: 488 ★★
    Ercarret said:

    Here you go, @ShashankGupta. R3 Sandman vs the Summer of Suffering Destroyer. I make a dumb mistake about a minute in that cost me some health, but otherwise it went rather well.

    I'm running the recoil masteries and am slightly boosted (to make the Toad fight prior easier).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30UbM6w1b1A

    Nice gameplay so much damage but if you know can you tell me which abilities kabam nerfed after the buff I just forgot about that and try him against lol star lord for fun and post it if you can 🥰
  • peixemacacopeixemacaco Member Posts: 3,079 ★★★★

    Aah post nerf sandman. I've had a R5 ascended since I got him (when ascended was new and barely a thing). Man was a beast now he doesn't feel the same anymore. We were able to basicly infinite build his damage via sp3. Now we can't

    Day 1 of asking for you to pull a Sandman and forgot Khamala Khan
  • SquidopusSquidopus Member Posts: 545 ★★★

    Ercarret said:

    Here you go, @ShashankGupta. R3 Sandman vs the Summer of Suffering Destroyer. I make a dumb mistake about a minute in that cost me some health, but otherwise it went rather well.

    I'm running the recoil masteries and am slightly boosted (to make the Toad fight prior easier).

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30UbM6w1b1A

    Nice gameplay so much damage but if you know can you tell me which abilities kabam nerfed after the buff I just forgot about that and try him against lol star lord for fun and post it if you can 🥰
    Not OP but here’s my answer. Sandman wasn’t really nerfed, he was just rebalanced. A tradeoff. I get why people are upset about it but it’s definitely not a straight nerf like some people call it.

    The major change in his “buff” was that his burst damage, which scales off debuff count, had the max debuff scaling reduced from 99 to 20 in exchange for being a bigger burst per debuff and scaling with modified instead of base attack rating (so it benefitted from attack boosts like his heavy proficiencies, nodes, or his sig fury). This had a few ramifications:

    • Sandman got much better damage quicker. It’s still not really good enough for bgs, but he does questing and war fights faster.
    • He isn’t reliant on hitting sp3 for the big damage, he can stick with the utility of sp1 or sp2 and still get good damage going.
    • Sandman’s damage ceiling dropped. Spamming sp3s over a longer fight is way less rewarding.
    • He’s reliant on sig now, whereas pre-buff it basically didn’t matter.

    So basically he lost a lot of his big healthpool damage but got better damage upfront in shorter fights, and he doesn’t need to give up his utility for meaningful damage. I can live with the change because Sandman’s breadth of utility really is good and now he has enough damage to back it up, but I do miss that massive longform burst.
  • Barrier ReefBarrier Reef Member Posts: 754 ★★★
    Insanely jealous. I hope he comes out as a 7 Star again soon. He’s one of my all time favorites in game. He’s vastly underrated.
  • MidnightfoxMidnightfox Member Posts: 1,285 ★★★
    Been singing his praises for quite some time. R2’d mine a while back but hulk took precedence on the r3 over him.
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