AW Exploit / 4th war

Many alliances abused the 4th war, that didn't count. So some of the Tier 1 alliances played in Platinum 1 or 2 and farmed weaker alliances. For example: At the moment Chaos alliance is on rank 14 in Platinum 1 but without 4th war they are at #2 world wide. So they have chances to get podium without playing against master Alliances because the 4th war doesn't count but also wasn't cancelled. This is not acceptable. You should punish the alliances that didn't play 4th war to drop into low Platinum to farm lower alliances. Otherwise you could cancel the season. This kabam moment will destroy AW forever.

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BloodyCruelty

@obsidiman Iam not up to date and I don't care.

HungaryHippo

@danielmath what are you yapping about. We won against GT40 and they also lost against salty lol. Everything was fair and deserved last season. We won against every big alliance. Your whataboutism stinks. I brought up the deaths because you can see that those alliances are clearly not good enough for podium.

That my friend, is called bait. Best to just ignore them and move on.

MrSakuragi

There was never a discussion about whether we play this war or not. It was always about whether we play serious or not. But as I can see you are all playing in shithole alliances and trying to defend this **** behaviour. Iam out now

lol was wondering when that would come

Enjoy your war rewards that aren’t worth the thousands of units you spend for them

obsidiman

@obsidiman Iam not up to date and I don't care.

If you don't care then why are you going all gung ho trying to tag people to solve your problem? If you're going to all the trouble you're going to, that seems an awful lot like caring to me.

How is the fight going by the way? Have any of the mods you've tagged responded and/or fixed the issue you have?

BloodyCruelty

@obsidiman I dont care about the Kabam team. Also Kabam knows about this issue. I created this discussion to boost it.

BloodyCruelty

Thank you @MrSakuragi 🙂

obsidiman

@obsidiman I dont care about the Kabam team. Also Kabam knows about this issue. I created this discussion to boost it.

If they know about it, then why not let them take care of it? I'm not sure how much you screaming and insulting those who disagree with you is helping. But again tagging former members of the Kabam team sure seems like caring. But then again... what do I know?

I thought you mentioned you were out of this discussion...

arifin74

@BloodyCruelty is it true that matchmaking is determined by war rating? Then you worry for nothing, they are not going to match P1 alliances but similar war rating like yours.

pseudosane

It is abuse and it has been brought up to the team. many t1 alliances abused the system to skew and get easy masters. It is wrong, no matter what anyone says. Kabam are aware of this.
@BloodyCruelty i suggest ignoring DanielMath, he is a true master at deflecting blame, especially when he is dead wrong.

BloodyCruelty

I didn't insult anyone lol. But disagreeing with me is either rage bait or cheater mentality. [Yes I know it is not a cheat don't worry lol]

I dont care about the kabam team changes what are you on😂 Of course I care about the issue. Are you slow?

BloodyCruelty

@arifin74 no matchmaking is based on your rank on the leaderboard so basically points and deaths. War rating is a secondary factor. The exploit is real. There is no point in discussing this you can see it ingame.

pseudosane

I suggest not getting so heated though @BloodyCruelty lets keep the temperature down. The team is aware of the situation.

HungaryHippo

@BloodyCruelty is it true that matchmaking is determined by war rating? Then you worry for nothing, they are not going to match P1 alliances but similar war rating like yours.

No it’s not. Alliances in the same region on the leaderboard face each other. P2 ally member facing 3 masters ally in a row here.

They saw we couldn’t beat them so eased up on item use too. Double win. Hope this is any different from shelling, I don’t know.

Every one of these alliances should be penalized but lots of big names play in those alliances; nothing will happen.

BloodyCruelty

Fair. Anyway thanks for boosting.

BloodyCruelty

Yes Platinum 1 and Platinum 2 alliances getting destroyed😂😂 that is also not cool

SirGamesBond

@BloodyCruelty is it true that matchmaking is determined by war rating? Then you worry for nothing, they are not going to match P1 alliances but similar war rating like yours.
Every one of these alliances should be penalized but lots of big names play in those alliances; nothing will happen.

Can't agree with this.
Players got the choice to not fight the war.
And that created problems but its 100% on kabam.

It's shameful after so many years of faild AW seasons and random war bugs, They still haven't developed a method to reset war ratings or make a single war not count with a press of a button.

I'm not saying it's an easy task to remove points from every single allince in the leaderboards. But they had the knowledge of this exact issue for years. Could've acted on it.

danielmath

@danielmath what are you yapping about. We won against GT40 and they also lost against salty lol. Everything was fair and deserved last season. We won against every big alliance. Your whataboutism stinks. I brought up the deaths because you can see that those alliances are clearly not good enough for podium.

Lol 😂

Savage123456789

@BloodyCruelty is it true that matchmaking is determined by war rating? Then you worry for nothing, they are not going to match P1 alliances but similar war rating like yours.
Every one of these alliances should be penalized but lots of big names play in those alliances; nothing will happen.
Can't agree with this.
Players got the choice to not fight the war.
And that created problems but its 100% on kabam.

It's shameful after so many years of faild AW seasons and random war bugs, They still haven't developed a method to reset war ratings or make a single war not count with a press of a button.

I'm not saying it's an easy task to remove points from every single allince in the leaderboards. But they had the knowledge of this exact issue for years. Could've acted on it.

But Kabam acted quickly on BGs to point out there will be consequences. I'm not sure how much it's implemented, but they did speak out. Now, AW is a different scenario, but like you said, this has been going on for years, they still haven't figured out something to deter people from tanking. To me that is hypocrisy to say the war doesn't count and do 0 fights. The leaderboard would look different between doing 0 war fights and 40% revive war. Those alliances would not be that low on the leaderboard. They know it and Kabam knows it. Selfishly, I'm happy cause we have a decent chance of getting into top 20 masters since those alliances are further away from us on the leaderboard, so higher chance of winning our remaining matches. But I feel for those lower alliances.

Dab_west

so u want people to try or play in a war that doesnt count? crazy work from u

Dart1981

How's about, instead of deducting points from war 4, kabam take the average difference between a win and a loss (when playing normally - perhaps based on war 3) and add those points to every alliance that lost war 4. That way winner aren't penalised, losers get there points back and those that didn't play at all do not recoup everything and don't move so far up the leaderboard

BloodyCruelty

@Dart1981 this wont change anything because they still farmed lower alliances

BloodyCruelty

@danielmath To be honest

Reason number 1:
I know that NEXT is getting piloted

Reason number 2:
I know some players in Chaos that I dont like. I dont want them to get War champ title while playing against p1 alliances. Also those players have a cheater mentality.

Reason number 3:
Iam a Nefti player. If we lose one war they will be #1 without even playing against us or another Top alliance. This is not acceptable. I spent thousands of units for this **** show

So for all Chaos players that got offended by this. Not playing a war is not cheating. I didn't talk about all Chaos players. I talked about two of them that I don't like. I want to apologize if you got insulted. I don't know the rest of you and I don't care about you so how would you come to the conclusion that I included you in this post. Anyway I understand that you can missunderstand my post. I also didn't want to call out Chaos as the only alliance that took advantage of kabams mistake. I also mentioned the other alliances. I only used your alliance as an example to explain the matchmaking issue. I wish you good luck for the rest of the season.

Also I don't care about you calling me a crybaby. My alliance will most probably win this season anyway. But because I want a fair season for everyone and also the lower tier alliances that got destroyed I would rather see the season beeing cancelled than winning it.

Herbal_Taxman

What about those titles tho

BloodyCruelty

I will quit this game anyway or chill in some trash alliances and play arena so I don't care about titles anymore

captain_rogers

You still have time to edit your last comment. Using slurs will only get you banned

BloodyCruelty

You still have time to edit your last comment. Using slurs will only get you banned

Nice then I can get a life😂

danielmath

@danielmath To be honest

Reason number 1:
I know that NEXT is getting piloted

Reason number 2:
I know some players in Chaos that I dont like. I dont want them to get War champ title while playing against p1 alliances. Also those players have a cheater mentality.

Reason number 3:
Iam a Nefti player. If we lose one war they will be #1 without even playing against us or another Top alliance. This is not acceptable. I spent thousands of units for this **** show
So for all Chaos players that got offended by this. Not playing a war is not cheating. I didn't talk about all Chaos players. I talked about two of them that I don't like. I want to apologize if you got insulted. I don't know the rest of you and I don't care about you so how would you come to the conclusion that I included you in this post. Anyway I understand that you can missunderstand my post. I also didn't want to call out Chaos as the only alliance that took advantage of kabams mistake. I also mentioned the other alliances. I only used your alliance as an example to explain the matchmaking issue. I wish you good luck for the rest of the season.

Also I don't care about you calling me a crybaby. My alliance will most probably win this season anyway. But because I want a fair season for everyone and also the lower tier alliances that got destroyed I would rather see the season beeing cancelled than winning it.

I’m not in chaos and never have been, don’t know a single person there and they certainly don’t deserve podium. I’m in c.av

BloodyCruelty

@danielmath To be honest

Reason number 1:
I know that NEXT is getting piloted

Reason number 2:
I know some players in Chaos that I dont like. I dont want them to get War champ title while playing against p1 alliances. Also those players have a cheater mentality.

Reason number 3:
Iam a Nefti player. If we lose one war they will be #1 without even playing against us or another Top alliance. This is not acceptable. I spent thousands of units for this **** show
So for all Chaos players that got offended by this. Not playing a war is not cheating. I didn't talk about all Chaos players. I talked about two of them that I don't like. I want to apologize if you got insulted. I don't know the rest of you and I don't care about you so how would you come to the conclusion that I included you in this post. Anyway I understand that you can missunderstand my post. I also didn't want to call out Chaos as the only alliance that took advantage of kabams mistake. I also mentioned the other alliances. I only used your alliance as an example to explain the matchmaking issue. I wish you good luck for the rest of the season.

Also I don't care about you calling me a crybaby. My alliance will most probably win this season anyway. But because I want a fair season for everyone and also the lower tier alliances that got destroyed I would rather see the season beeing cancelled than winning it.
I’m not in chaos and never have been, don’t know a single person there and they certainly don’t deserve podium. I’m in c.av

Cav strong alliance yes. I was told that some Chaos players shooting against me so I made this post

BloodyCruelty

You almost clapped us this season I remember

Dab_west

You almost clapped us this season I remember

yea, and ur going to get first anyways, so dont complain so much lol