Season 53 "canceled" war, does not fix the problem

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  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127

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    This is going to be a bit of a long post, I want to outline why "canceling" a war and removing the points at the end of the season does not fix the problem for some alliances, mine included. Now this does not affect the majority of alliances, it only affects us who are on the brink of a tier rating. I'm sure this topic has already was already posted about when the "canceled" war happened. So if you've read a similar post, feel free to skip this one.

    My alliance had just entered tier 2 the war before the "canceled" one, halfway thru the canceled one we saw the post of it being canceled and decided not to use items(big mistake) we weren't sure if war rating would be affected still(it was).

    Now the problem with war rating being affected is that it has a snowball effect on alliances such as my own. (We lost) the canceled war, which put us back down to a tier 3 multiplier, we proceeded to win the tier 3 war but as most of you know, a t3 win is a t2 loss. So what should have been 1.55m points, was now 1.3m points. Following the win we lost in t2 again, back to t3, won so back to tier 2. The problem is, if war rating had not been affected on the "canceled" war these would have all been t2 wars. This cost us around 450k total score.

    We no longer can make p2 because of this, not factoring in them removing the points for the canceled war, we should have 11.55m points. (450k lost because of war rating being affected) and rank 1 t3 has 11.8m. We would still have a good shot at p2 placement without this war rating problem. Not to mention, with the points removed end season, rank 1 would be essentially 200k less than where they are at, where as taking our lost war points away would bring our average up.

    Last time this problem arose, kabam gave everyone who participated in AW, one tier up rewards. I'm humbly asking the same be done here please.

    TLDR: War rating being affected on the "canceled" war genuily cost us p2(or a reasonable chance at p2) this season. (Please read whole article if you want to understand)

    Thank you for your time.
    -Meat










    There are many posts related to this. Kabam is aware of this. Don't waste your time nothing is gonna happen. It is more likely that some people will trash talk you here soon. Just eat it and move on.
    Yeah I mean I suppose you're unaware of what they did last time this happened. It's mentioned in my post. The point of making this post is to make bring continuous attention to the issue. The more people who bring it up, the more likely kabam will do something about it. 🫡
    Good luck
    After looking you up, I see why you're sour towards this topic. Being your post didn't gain the traction and attention you'd hoped. The reason it did not was because you didn't see the real problem that arose, which is what I've outlined in this post. My alliance is one of the few directly affected by this, another reason I waited a few days after the war to make this post; To provide screenshots of the impact.

    Although your post didn't gain the desired attention, doesn't mean you should stop pushing the issue. Feel free to jump on this bandwagon and hope a staff member from kabam is able to read it and fix it for us all.
    I adressed another issue that came with cancelled war. Every alliance is affected by this. There is not only one issue. I just said that Kabam won't take action. The case is closed for them although you adressed another issue. So I gave up.
    I understand, supporting this thread will help you achieve the goal you were trying to reach with your thread though. The more positive feedback, the more likely we will recieve a response from kabam.

    The last time a war was canceled mid season, every alliance that participated was given one tier up season rewards. I'm hoping for the same result.
    My issue wont be fixed but yeah hopefully you get your higher +1 rewards
    I did read your thread, masters alliances are not facing plat 4 alliances because they threw their war, who you match with is based on war rating.

    While masters alliances who threw dropped down and faced slightly lesser opponents than they would, it doesn't affect as large a player base as you think.

    The major standing issue is towards alliances on the cusp of tiers. Where a lost war would drop them to a lower multiplier, making them suffer from a war that should have had no impact on the season.

    It creates a snowball effect for the aforementioned alliances, feel free to read my post and view the screenshots, the canceled war still affecting war rating directly affected my alliances placement or reasonable chance for placement.

    While you may have gone up against a tougher alliance the following war due to them throwing, 1 tier up rewards will in the end benefit everyone and solve the issue at hand(war ratings being affected by the canceled war) - this is the true problem that arose and one you were addressing in your thread whether intentionally or unintentionally.
    No on Tier 1 matchmaking is not based on war rating but on leaderboard. There is no point in arguing against me. One look into the leaderboard and matchups is enough. Alliances that intentionally didn't play 4th war dropped down into platinum 1 Tier 1 and farmed weaker Platinum 1 Alliances to get a better ranking in masters at the end of the season because masters and platinum 1 tier is the same but the skill gap is high. This issue is real but of course it only affects top alliances and alliances that get destroyed by those.

    The other side of the medal is the issue that is adressed in this post. Alliances that dropped a tier at that time have a huge disadvabtage. Your alliance dropped a tier because your war rating got affected and dropped under the Tier 2 war rating. I understand your problem and hope that you will get higher rewards. But please stop talking nonsense about the issue I adressed. Thank you
    Tier 1 wars are based on war rating and leaderboard standing. I.e. the problem you are trying to address and not receiving the feedback you expected is due to the fact that masters alliances are NOT facing low tier 1 alliances.

    Example: WR 4000 in Platinum 1 cannot face WR 3700 platinum 1. Unless there is no one between that gap that they have not already faced. Which is not the case.

    Does the topic you brought up give masters alliances a slight advantage? Potentially, what really happens is that they're just matching with the other ones who did the same because they will be closer in WR and standing.

    So no masters who threw war 4 are not facing like rank 50 p1 alliances.

    Maybe you should ask people before you spew these lies. P2 alliances are fighting LOXC/TCN/SSX/4LOKI etc.
    Thank you all very much for the bumps.
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    This is going to be a bit of a long post, I want to outline why "canceling" a war and removing the points at the end of the season does not fix the problem for some alliances, mine included. Now this does not affect the majority of alliances, it only affects us who are on the brink of a tier rating. I'm sure this topic has already was already posted about when the "canceled" war happened. So if you've read a similar post, feel free to skip this one.

    My alliance had just entered tier 2 the war before the "canceled" one, halfway thru the canceled one we saw the post of it being canceled and decided not to use items(big mistake) we weren't sure if war rating would be affected still(it was).

    Now the problem with war rating being affected is that it has a snowball effect on alliances such as my own. (We lost) the canceled war, which put us back down to a tier 3 multiplier, we proceeded to win the tier 3 war but as most of you know, a t3 win is a t2 loss. So what should have been 1.55m points, was now 1.3m points. Following the win we lost in t2 again, back to t3, won so back to tier 2. The problem is, if war rating had not been affected on the "canceled" war these would have all been t2 wars. This cost us around 450k total score.

    We no longer can make p2 because of this, not factoring in them removing the points for the canceled war, we should have 11.55m points. (450k lost because of war rating being affected) and rank 1 t3 has 11.8m. We would still have a good shot at p2 placement without this war rating problem. Not to mention, with the points removed end season, rank 1 would be essentially 200k less than where they are at, where as taking our lost war points away would bring our average up.

    Last time this problem arose, kabam gave everyone who participated in AW, one tier up rewards. I'm humbly asking the same be done here please.

    TLDR: War rating being affected on the "canceled" war genuily cost us p2(or a reasonable chance at p2) this season. (Please read whole article if you want to understand)

    Thank you for your time.
    -Meat










    There are many posts related to this. Kabam is aware of this. Don't waste your time nothing is gonna happen. It is more likely that some people will trash talk you here soon. Just eat it and move on.
    Yeah I mean I suppose you're unaware of what they did last time this happened. It's mentioned in my post. The point of making this post is to make bring continuous attention to the issue. The more people who bring it up, the more likely kabam will do something about it. 🫡
    Good luck
    After looking you up, I see why you're sour towards this topic. Being your post didn't gain the traction and attention you'd hoped. The reason it did not was because you didn't see the real problem that arose, which is what I've outlined in this post. My alliance is one of the few directly affected by this, another reason I waited a few days after the war to make this post; To provide screenshots of the impact.

    Although your post didn't gain the desired attention, doesn't mean you should stop pushing the issue. Feel free to jump on this bandwagon and hope a staff member from kabam is able to read it and fix it for us all.
    I adressed another issue that came with cancelled war. Every alliance is affected by this. There is not only one issue. I just said that Kabam won't take action. The case is closed for them although you adressed another issue. So I gave up.
    I understand, supporting this thread will help you achieve the goal you were trying to reach with your thread though. The more positive feedback, the more likely we will recieve a response from kabam.

    The last time a war was canceled mid season, every alliance that participated was given one tier up season rewards. I'm hoping for the same result.
    My issue wont be fixed but yeah hopefully you get your higher +1 rewards
    I did read your thread, masters alliances are not facing plat 4 alliances because they threw their war, who you match with is based on war rating.

    While masters alliances who threw dropped down and faced slightly lesser opponents than they would, it doesn't affect as large a player base as you think.

    The major standing issue is towards alliances on the cusp of tiers. Where a lost war would drop them to a lower multiplier, making them suffer from a war that should have had no impact on the season.

    It creates a snowball effect for the aforementioned alliances, feel free to read my post and view the screenshots, the canceled war still affecting war rating directly affected my alliances placement or reasonable chance for placement.

    While you may have gone up against a tougher alliance the following war due to them throwing, 1 tier up rewards will in the end benefit everyone and solve the issue at hand(war ratings being affected by the canceled war) - this is the true problem that arose and one you were addressing in your thread whether intentionally or unintentionally.
    No on Tier 1 matchmaking is not based on war rating but on leaderboard. There is no point in arguing against me. One look into the leaderboard and matchups is enough. Alliances that intentionally didn't play 4th war dropped down into platinum 1 Tier 1 and farmed weaker Platinum 1 Alliances to get a better ranking in masters at the end of the season because masters and platinum 1 tier is the same but the skill gap is high. This issue is real but of course it only affects top alliances and alliances that get destroyed by those.

    The other side of the medal is the issue that is adressed in this post. Alliances that dropped a tier at that time have a huge disadvabtage. Your alliance dropped a tier because your war rating got affected and dropped under the Tier 2 war rating. I understand your problem and hope that you will get higher rewards. But please stop talking nonsense about the issue I adressed. Thank you
    Tier 1 wars are based on war rating and leaderboard standing. I.e. the problem you are trying to address and not receiving the feedback you expected is due to the fact that masters alliances are NOT facing low tier 1 alliances.

    Example: WR 4000 in Platinum 1 cannot face WR 3700 platinum 1. Unless there is no one between that gap that they have not already faced. Which is not the case.

    Does the topic you brought up give masters alliances a slight advantage? Potentially, what really happens is that they're just matching with the other ones who did the same because they will be closer in WR and standing.

    So no masters who threw war 4 are not facing like rank 50 p1 alliances.

    Maybe you should ask people before you spew these lies. P2 alliances are fighting LOXC/TCN/SSX/4LOKI etc.
    Yep. WICk, LOXC, and 4LOKI were our last 3 matches. Somehow we're still staying top 3 of P2, but idk wtf is going on lol
    Yeahhhh seems suuuuuper legit. BTW not masters alliances lol, and as stated above, WR and standing affect who you face. So if what you're saying is true. These ***p1*** alliances throwing into p2 and going against you **rank 3** literally just confirms what I've said 😂

    But like I said. Thank you for the bumps🫡
  • BloodyCrueltyBloodyCruelty Member Posts: 244 ★★
    edited November 6
    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    This is going to be a bit of a long post, I want to outline why "canceling" a war and removing the points at the end of the season does not fix the problem for some alliances, mine included. Now this does not affect the majority of alliances, it only affects us who are on the brink of a tier rating. I'm sure this topic has already was already posted about when the "canceled" war happened. So if you've read a similar post, feel free to skip this one.

    My alliance had just entered tier 2 the war before the "canceled" one, halfway thru the canceled one we saw the post of it being canceled and decided not to use items(big mistake) we weren't sure if war rating would be affected still(it was).

    Now the problem with war rating being affected is that it has a snowball effect on alliances such as my own. (We lost) the canceled war, which put us back down to a tier 3 multiplier, we proceeded to win the tier 3 war but as most of you know, a t3 win is a t2 loss. So what should have been 1.55m points, was now 1.3m points. Following the win we lost in t2 again, back to t3, won so back to tier 2. The problem is, if war rating had not been affected on the "canceled" war these would have all been t2 wars. This cost us around 450k total score.

    We no longer can make p2 because of this, not factoring in them removing the points for the canceled war, we should have 11.55m points. (450k lost because of war rating being affected) and rank 1 t3 has 11.8m. We would still have a good shot at p2 placement without this war rating problem. Not to mention, with the points removed end season, rank 1 would be essentially 200k less than where they are at, where as taking our lost war points away would bring our average up.

    Last time this problem arose, kabam gave everyone who participated in AW, one tier up rewards. I'm humbly asking the same be done here please.

    TLDR: War rating being affected on the "canceled" war genuily cost us p2(or a reasonable chance at p2) this season. (Please read whole article if you want to understand)

    Thank you for your time.
    -Meat










    There are many posts related to this. Kabam is aware of this. Don't waste your time nothing is gonna happen. It is more likely that some people will trash talk you here soon. Just eat it and move on.
    Yeah I mean I suppose you're unaware of what they did last time this happened. It's mentioned in my post. The point of making this post is to make bring continuous attention to the issue. The more people who bring it up, the more likely kabam will do something about it. 🫡
    Good luck
    After looking you up, I see why you're sour towards this topic. Being your post didn't gain the traction and attention you'd hoped. The reason it did not was because you didn't see the real problem that arose, which is what I've outlined in this post. My alliance is one of the few directly affected by this, another reason I waited a few days after the war to make this post; To provide screenshots of the impact.

    Although your post didn't gain the desired attention, doesn't mean you should stop pushing the issue. Feel free to jump on this bandwagon and hope a staff member from kabam is able to read it and fix it for us all.
    I adressed another issue that came with cancelled war. Every alliance is affected by this. There is not only one issue. I just said that Kabam won't take action. The case is closed for them although you adressed another issue. So I gave up.
    I understand, supporting this thread will help you achieve the goal you were trying to reach with your thread though. The more positive feedback, the more likely we will recieve a response from kabam.

    The last time a war was canceled mid season, every alliance that participated was given one tier up season rewards. I'm hoping for the same result.
    My issue wont be fixed but yeah hopefully you get your higher +1 rewards
    I did read your thread, masters alliances are not facing plat 4 alliances because they threw their war, who you match with is based on war rating.

    While masters alliances who threw dropped down and faced slightly lesser opponents than they would, it doesn't affect as large a player base as you think.

    The major standing issue is towards alliances on the cusp of tiers. Where a lost war would drop them to a lower multiplier, making them suffer from a war that should have had no impact on the season.

    It creates a snowball effect for the aforementioned alliances, feel free to read my post and view the screenshots, the canceled war still affecting war rating directly affected my alliances placement or reasonable chance for placement.

    While you may have gone up against a tougher alliance the following war due to them throwing, 1 tier up rewards will in the end benefit everyone and solve the issue at hand(war ratings being affected by the canceled war) - this is the true problem that arose and one you were addressing in your thread whether intentionally or unintentionally.
    No on Tier 1 matchmaking is not based on war rating but on leaderboard. There is no point in arguing against me. One look into the leaderboard and matchups is enough. Alliances that intentionally didn't play 4th war dropped down into platinum 1 Tier 1 and farmed weaker Platinum 1 Alliances to get a better ranking in masters at the end of the season because masters and platinum 1 tier is the same but the skill gap is high. This issue is real but of course it only affects top alliances and alliances that get destroyed by those.

    The other side of the medal is the issue that is adressed in this post. Alliances that dropped a tier at that time have a huge disadvabtage. Your alliance dropped a tier because your war rating got affected and dropped under the Tier 2 war rating. I understand your problem and hope that you will get higher rewards. But please stop talking nonsense about the issue I adressed. Thank you
    Tier 1 wars are based on war rating and leaderboard standing. I.e. the problem you are trying to address and not receiving the feedback you expected is due to the fact that masters alliances are NOT facing low tier 1 alliances.

    Example: WR 4000 in Platinum 1 cannot face WR 3700 platinum 1. Unless there is no one between that gap that they have not already faced. Which is not the case.

    Does the topic you brought up give masters alliances a slight advantage? Potentially, what really happens is that they're just matching with the other ones who did the same because they will be closer in WR and standing.

    So no masters who threw war 4 are not facing like rank 50 p1 alliances.

    Maybe you should ask people before you spew these lies. P2 alliances are fighting LOXC/TCN/SSX/4LOKI etc.
    Yep. WICk, LOXC, and 4LOKI were our last 3 matches. Somehow we're still staying top 3 of P2, but idk wtf is going on lol
    Yeahhhh seems suuuuuper legit. BTW not masters alliances lol, and as stated above, WR and standing affect who you face. So if what you're saying is true. These ***p1*** alliances throwing into p2 and going against you **rank 3** literally just confirms what I've said 😂

    But like I said. Thank you for the bumps🫡
    Please stop. It is embarassing. Those are alliances that reached masters many times. P1 and P2 alliances are no difficult match for them most of the time. You are missing the fact that it is normal to face alliances in Platinum 1 when you are at the top of Platinum 2 because you are matching based on leaderboard are you slow??? They are still on the top of Platinum 2 because they lost against 4Loki with a Tier 1 multiplier while most Platinum 2 alliances that are not at the top have a Tier 2 multiplier because of their rating.

    It is funny how you still don't understand it. Maybe you are not able to or you don't want to.
  • DarthMysticDarthMystic Member Posts: 85
    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    This is going to be a bit of a long post, I want to outline why "canceling" a war and removing the points at the end of the season does not fix the problem for some alliances, mine included. Now this does not affect the majority of alliances, it only affects us who are on the brink of a tier rating. I'm sure this topic has already was already posted about when the "canceled" war happened. So if you've read a similar post, feel free to skip this one.

    My alliance had just entered tier 2 the war before the "canceled" one, halfway thru the canceled one we saw the post of it being canceled and decided not to use items(big mistake) we weren't sure if war rating would be affected still(it was).

    Now the problem with war rating being affected is that it has a snowball effect on alliances such as my own. (We lost) the canceled war, which put us back down to a tier 3 multiplier, we proceeded to win the tier 3 war but as most of you know, a t3 win is a t2 loss. So what should have been 1.55m points, was now 1.3m points. Following the win we lost in t2 again, back to t3, won so back to tier 2. The problem is, if war rating had not been affected on the "canceled" war these would have all been t2 wars. This cost us around 450k total score.

    We no longer can make p2 because of this, not factoring in them removing the points for the canceled war, we should have 11.55m points. (450k lost because of war rating being affected) and rank 1 t3 has 11.8m. We would still have a good shot at p2 placement without this war rating problem. Not to mention, with the points removed end season, rank 1 would be essentially 200k less than where they are at, where as taking our lost war points away would bring our average up.

    Last time this problem arose, kabam gave everyone who participated in AW, one tier up rewards. I'm humbly asking the same be done here please.

    TLDR: War rating being affected on the "canceled" war genuily cost us p2(or a reasonable chance at p2) this season. (Please read whole article if you want to understand)

    Thank you for your time.
    -Meat










    There are many posts related to this. Kabam is aware of this. Don't waste your time nothing is gonna happen. It is more likely that some people will trash talk you here soon. Just eat it and move on.
    Yeah I mean I suppose you're unaware of what they did last time this happened. It's mentioned in my post. The point of making this post is to make bring continuous attention to the issue. The more people who bring it up, the more likely kabam will do something about it. 🫡
    Good luck
    After looking you up, I see why you're sour towards this topic. Being your post didn't gain the traction and attention you'd hoped. The reason it did not was because you didn't see the real problem that arose, which is what I've outlined in this post. My alliance is one of the few directly affected by this, another reason I waited a few days after the war to make this post; To provide screenshots of the impact.

    Although your post didn't gain the desired attention, doesn't mean you should stop pushing the issue. Feel free to jump on this bandwagon and hope a staff member from kabam is able to read it and fix it for us all.
    I adressed another issue that came with cancelled war. Every alliance is affected by this. There is not only one issue. I just said that Kabam won't take action. The case is closed for them although you adressed another issue. So I gave up.
    I understand, supporting this thread will help you achieve the goal you were trying to reach with your thread though. The more positive feedback, the more likely we will recieve a response from kabam.

    The last time a war was canceled mid season, every alliance that participated was given one tier up season rewards. I'm hoping for the same result.
    My issue wont be fixed but yeah hopefully you get your higher +1 rewards
    I did read your thread, masters alliances are not facing plat 4 alliances because they threw their war, who you match with is based on war rating.

    While masters alliances who threw dropped down and faced slightly lesser opponents than they would, it doesn't affect as large a player base as you think.

    The major standing issue is towards alliances on the cusp of tiers. Where a lost war would drop them to a lower multiplier, making them suffer from a war that should have had no impact on the season.

    It creates a snowball effect for the aforementioned alliances, feel free to read my post and view the screenshots, the canceled war still affecting war rating directly affected my alliances placement or reasonable chance for placement.

    While you may have gone up against a tougher alliance the following war due to them throwing, 1 tier up rewards will in the end benefit everyone and solve the issue at hand(war ratings being affected by the canceled war) - this is the true problem that arose and one you were addressing in your thread whether intentionally or unintentionally.
    No on Tier 1 matchmaking is not based on war rating but on leaderboard. There is no point in arguing against me. One look into the leaderboard and matchups is enough. Alliances that intentionally didn't play 4th war dropped down into platinum 1 Tier 1 and farmed weaker Platinum 1 Alliances to get a better ranking in masters at the end of the season because masters and platinum 1 tier is the same but the skill gap is high. This issue is real but of course it only affects top alliances and alliances that get destroyed by those.

    The other side of the medal is the issue that is adressed in this post. Alliances that dropped a tier at that time have a huge disadvabtage. Your alliance dropped a tier because your war rating got affected and dropped under the Tier 2 war rating. I understand your problem and hope that you will get higher rewards. But please stop talking nonsense about the issue I adressed. Thank you
    Tier 1 wars are based on war rating and leaderboard standing. I.e. the problem you are trying to address and not receiving the feedback you expected is due to the fact that masters alliances are NOT facing low tier 1 alliances.

    Example: WR 4000 in Platinum 1 cannot face WR 3700 platinum 1. Unless there is no one between that gap that they have not already faced. Which is not the case.

    Does the topic you brought up give masters alliances a slight advantage? Potentially, what really happens is that they're just matching with the other ones who did the same because they will be closer in WR and standing.

    So no masters who threw war 4 are not facing like rank 50 p1 alliances.

    Maybe you should ask people before you spew these lies. P2 alliances are fighting LOXC/TCN/SSX/4LOKI etc.
    Yep. WICk, LOXC, and 4LOKI were our last 3 matches. Somehow we're still staying top 3 of P2, but idk wtf is going on lol
    Yeahhhh seems suuuuuper legit. BTW not masters alliances lol, and as stated above, WR and standing affect who you face. So if what you're saying is true. These ***p1*** alliances throwing into p2 and going against you **rank 3** literally just confirms what I've said 😂

    But like I said. Thank you for the bumps🫡
    Dude. You are so wrong. Read what people are trying to tell you. War rating is not the end all be all to matchmaking. Why do people still think this?
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    This is going to be a bit of a long post, I want to outline why "canceling" a war and removing the points at the end of the season does not fix the problem for some alliances, mine included. Now this does not affect the majority of alliances, it only affects us who are on the brink of a tier rating. I'm sure this topic has already was already posted about when the "canceled" war happened. So if you've read a similar post, feel free to skip this one.

    My alliance had just entered tier 2 the war before the "canceled" one, halfway thru the canceled one we saw the post of it being canceled and decided not to use items(big mistake) we weren't sure if war rating would be affected still(it was).

    Now the problem with war rating being affected is that it has a snowball effect on alliances such as my own. (We lost) the canceled war, which put us back down to a tier 3 multiplier, we proceeded to win the tier 3 war but as most of you know, a t3 win is a t2 loss. So what should have been 1.55m points, was now 1.3m points. Following the win we lost in t2 again, back to t3, won so back to tier 2. The problem is, if war rating had not been affected on the "canceled" war these would have all been t2 wars. This cost us around 450k total score.

    We no longer can make p2 because of this, not factoring in them removing the points for the canceled war, we should have 11.55m points. (450k lost because of war rating being affected) and rank 1 t3 has 11.8m. We would still have a good shot at p2 placement without this war rating problem. Not to mention, with the points removed end season, rank 1 would be essentially 200k less than where they are at, where as taking our lost war points away would bring our average up.

    Last time this problem arose, kabam gave everyone who participated in AW, one tier up rewards. I'm humbly asking the same be done here please.

    TLDR: War rating being affected on the "canceled" war genuily cost us p2(or a reasonable chance at p2) this season. (Please read whole article if you want to understand)

    Thank you for your time.
    -Meat










    There are many posts related to this. Kabam is aware of this. Don't waste your time nothing is gonna happen. It is more likely that some people will trash talk you here soon. Just eat it and move on.
    Yeah I mean I suppose you're unaware of what they did last time this happened. It's mentioned in my post. The point of making this post is to make bring continuous attention to the issue. The more people who bring it up, the more likely kabam will do something about it. 🫡
    Good luck
    After looking you up, I see why you're sour towards this topic. Being your post didn't gain the traction and attention you'd hoped. The reason it did not was because you didn't see the real problem that arose, which is what I've outlined in this post. My alliance is one of the few directly affected by this, another reason I waited a few days after the war to make this post; To provide screenshots of the impact.

    Although your post didn't gain the desired attention, doesn't mean you should stop pushing the issue. Feel free to jump on this bandwagon and hope a staff member from kabam is able to read it and fix it for us all.
    I adressed another issue that came with cancelled war. Every alliance is affected by this. There is not only one issue. I just said that Kabam won't take action. The case is closed for them although you adressed another issue. So I gave up.
    I understand, supporting this thread will help you achieve the goal you were trying to reach with your thread though. The more positive feedback, the more likely we will recieve a response from kabam.

    The last time a war was canceled mid season, every alliance that participated was given one tier up season rewards. I'm hoping for the same result.
    My issue wont be fixed but yeah hopefully you get your higher +1 rewards
    I did read your thread, masters alliances are not facing plat 4 alliances because they threw their war, who you match with is based on war rating.

    While masters alliances who threw dropped down and faced slightly lesser opponents than they would, it doesn't affect as large a player base as you think.

    The major standing issue is towards alliances on the cusp of tiers. Where a lost war would drop them to a lower multiplier, making them suffer from a war that should have had no impact on the season.

    It creates a snowball effect for the aforementioned alliances, feel free to read my post and view the screenshots, the canceled war still affecting war rating directly affected my alliances placement or reasonable chance for placement.

    While you may have gone up against a tougher alliance the following war due to them throwing, 1 tier up rewards will in the end benefit everyone and solve the issue at hand(war ratings being affected by the canceled war) - this is the true problem that arose and one you were addressing in your thread whether intentionally or unintentionally.
    No on Tier 1 matchmaking is not based on war rating but on leaderboard. There is no point in arguing against me. One look into the leaderboard and matchups is enough. Alliances that intentionally didn't play 4th war dropped down into platinum 1 Tier 1 and farmed weaker Platinum 1 Alliances to get a better ranking in masters at the end of the season because masters and platinum 1 tier is the same but the skill gap is high. This issue is real but of course it only affects top alliances and alliances that get destroyed by those.

    The other side of the medal is the issue that is adressed in this post. Alliances that dropped a tier at that time have a huge disadvabtage. Your alliance dropped a tier because your war rating got affected and dropped under the Tier 2 war rating. I understand your problem and hope that you will get higher rewards. But please stop talking nonsense about the issue I adressed. Thank you
    Tier 1 wars are based on war rating and leaderboard standing. I.e. the problem you are trying to address and not receiving the feedback you expected is due to the fact that masters alliances are NOT facing low tier 1 alliances.

    Example: WR 4000 in Platinum 1 cannot face WR 3700 platinum 1. Unless there is no one between that gap that they have not already faced. Which is not the case.

    Does the topic you brought up give masters alliances a slight advantage? Potentially, what really happens is that they're just matching with the other ones who did the same because they will be closer in WR and standing.

    So no masters who threw war 4 are not facing like rank 50 p1 alliances.

    Maybe you should ask people before you spew these lies. P2 alliances are fighting LOXC/TCN/SSX/4LOKI etc.
    Yep. WICk, LOXC, and 4LOKI were our last 3 matches. Somehow we're still staying top 3 of P2, but idk wtf is going on lol
    Yeahhhh seems suuuuuper legit. BTW not masters alliances lol, and as stated above, WR and standing affect who you face. So if what you're saying is true. These ***p1*** alliances throwing into p2 and going against you **rank 3** literally just confirms what I've said 😂

    But like I said. Thank you for the bumps🫡
    Dude. You are so wrong. Read what people are trying to tell you. War rating is not the end all be all to matchmaking. Why do people still think this?
    You're right it's not, as I've tried to explain a few times. It's a combination of both WR and leaderboard standing. WR takes priority. I'm not going to write a paragraph explaining tbh. You can find this information online easily enough.

    This guy and his friends were basically shamed on a post he made saying masters who threw were farming p2 alliances. Completely untrue. And no evidence on top of this. It's just classic masters drama. I provoked them to get more attention on my thread.
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127

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    This is going to be a bit of a long post, I want to outline why "canceling" a war and removing the points at the end of the season does not fix the problem for some alliances, mine included. Now this does not affect the majority of alliances, it only affects us who are on the brink of a tier rating. I'm sure this topic has already was already posted about when the "canceled" war happened. So if you've read a similar post, feel free to skip this one.

    My alliance had just entered tier 2 the war before the "canceled" one, halfway thru the canceled one we saw the post of it being canceled and decided not to use items(big mistake) we weren't sure if war rating would be affected still(it was).

    Now the problem with war rating being affected is that it has a snowball effect on alliances such as my own. (We lost) the canceled war, which put us back down to a tier 3 multiplier, we proceeded to win the tier 3 war but as most of you know, a t3 win is a t2 loss. So what should have been 1.55m points, was now 1.3m points. Following the win we lost in t2 again, back to t3, won so back to tier 2. The problem is, if war rating had not been affected on the "canceled" war these would have all been t2 wars. This cost us around 450k total score.

    We no longer can make p2 because of this, not factoring in them removing the points for the canceled war, we should have 11.55m points. (450k lost because of war rating being affected) and rank 1 t3 has 11.8m. We would still have a good shot at p2 placement without this war rating problem. Not to mention, with the points removed end season, rank 1 would be essentially 200k less than where they are at, where as taking our lost war points away would bring our average up.

    Last time this problem arose, kabam gave everyone who participated in AW, one tier up rewards. I'm humbly asking the same be done here please.

    TLDR: War rating being affected on the "canceled" war genuily cost us p2(or a reasonable chance at p2) this season. (Please read whole article if you want to understand)

    Thank you for your time.
    -Meat










    There are many posts related to this. Kabam is aware of this. Don't waste your time nothing is gonna happen. It is more likely that some people will trash talk you here soon. Just eat it and move on.
    Yeah I mean I suppose you're unaware of what they did last time this happened. It's mentioned in my post. The point of making this post is to make bring continuous attention to the issue. The more people who bring it up, the more likely kabam will do something about it. 🫡
    Good luck
    After looking you up, I see why you're sour towards this topic. Being your post didn't gain the traction and attention you'd hoped. The reason it did not was because you didn't see the real problem that arose, which is what I've outlined in this post. My alliance is one of the few directly affected by this, another reason I waited a few days after the war to make this post; To provide screenshots of the impact.

    Although your post didn't gain the desired attention, doesn't mean you should stop pushing the issue. Feel free to jump on this bandwagon and hope a staff member from kabam is able to read it and fix it for us all.
    I adressed another issue that came with cancelled war. Every alliance is affected by this. There is not only one issue. I just said that Kabam won't take action. The case is closed for them although you adressed another issue. So I gave up.
    I understand, supporting this thread will help you achieve the goal you were trying to reach with your thread though. The more positive feedback, the more likely we will recieve a response from kabam.

    The last time a war was canceled mid season, every alliance that participated was given one tier up season rewards. I'm hoping for the same result.
    My issue wont be fixed but yeah hopefully you get your higher +1 rewards
    I did read your thread, masters alliances are not facing plat 4 alliances because they threw their war, who you match with is based on war rating.

    While masters alliances who threw dropped down and faced slightly lesser opponents than they would, it doesn't affect as large a player base as you think.

    The major standing issue is towards alliances on the cusp of tiers. Where a lost war would drop them to a lower multiplier, making them suffer from a war that should have had no impact on the season.

    It creates a snowball effect for the aforementioned alliances, feel free to read my post and view the screenshots, the canceled war still affecting war rating directly affected my alliances placement or reasonable chance for placement.

    While you may have gone up against a tougher alliance the following war due to them throwing, 1 tier up rewards will in the end benefit everyone and solve the issue at hand(war ratings being affected by the canceled war) - this is the true problem that arose and one you were addressing in your thread whether intentionally or unintentionally.
    No on Tier 1 matchmaking is not based on war rating but on leaderboard. There is no point in arguing against me. One look into the leaderboard and matchups is enough. Alliances that intentionally didn't play 4th war dropped down into platinum 1 Tier 1 and farmed weaker Platinum 1 Alliances to get a better ranking in masters at the end of the season because masters and platinum 1 tier is the same but the skill gap is high. This issue is real but of course it only affects top alliances and alliances that get destroyed by those.

    The other side of the medal is the issue that is adressed in this post. Alliances that dropped a tier at that time have a huge disadvabtage. Your alliance dropped a tier because your war rating got affected and dropped under the Tier 2 war rating. I understand your problem and hope that you will get higher rewards. But please stop talking nonsense about the issue I adressed. Thank you
    Tier 1 wars are based on war rating and leaderboard standing. I.e. the problem you are trying to address and not receiving the feedback you expected is due to the fact that masters alliances are NOT facing low tier 1 alliances.

    Example: WR 4000 in Platinum 1 cannot face WR 3700 platinum 1. Unless there is no one between that gap that they have not already faced. Which is not the case.

    Does the topic you brought up give masters alliances a slight advantage? Potentially, what really happens is that they're just matching with the other ones who did the same because they will be closer in WR and standing.

    So no masters who threw war 4 are not facing like rank 50 p1 alliances.

    Maybe you should ask people before you spew these lies. P2 alliances are fighting LOXC/TCN/SSX/4LOKI etc.
    Yep. WICk, LOXC, and 4LOKI were our last 3 matches. Somehow we're still staying top 3 of P2, but idk wtf is going on lol
    Yeahhhh seems suuuuuper legit. BTW not masters alliances lol, and as stated above, WR and standing affect who you face. So if what you're saying is true. These ***p1*** alliances throwing into p2 and going against you **rank 3** literally just confirms what I've said 😂

    But like I said. Thank you for the bumps🫡
    Please stop. It is embarassing. Those are alliances that reached masters many times. P1 and P2 alliances are no difficult match for them most of the time. You are missing the fact that it is normal to face alliances in Platinum 1 when you are at the top of Platinum 2 because you are matching based on leaderboard are you slow??? They are still on the top of Platinum 2 because they lost against 4Loki with a Tier 1 multiplier while most Platinum 2 alliances that are not at the top have a Tier 2 multiplier because of their rating.

    It is funny how you still don't understand it. Maybe you are not able to or you don't want to.
    I can tell you for a 100% fact 4loki and loxc have placed p1 the last 4?ish seasons. But what do I know 🤦‍♂️
  • BloodyCrueltyBloodyCruelty Member Posts: 244 ★★
    edited November 6
    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

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    Iammeat5 said:

    This is going to be a bit of a long post, I want to outline why "canceling" a war and removing the points at the end of the season does not fix the problem for some alliances, mine included. Now this does not affect the majority of alliances, it only affects us who are on the brink of a tier rating. I'm sure this topic has already was already posted about when the "canceled" war happened. So if you've read a similar post, feel free to skip this one.

    My alliance had just entered tier 2 the war before the "canceled" one, halfway thru the canceled one we saw the post of it being canceled and decided not to use items(big mistake) we weren't sure if war rating would be affected still(it was).

    Now the problem with war rating being affected is that it has a snowball effect on alliances such as my own. (We lost) the canceled war, which put us back down to a tier 3 multiplier, we proceeded to win the tier 3 war but as most of you know, a t3 win is a t2 loss. So what should have been 1.55m points, was now 1.3m points. Following the win we lost in t2 again, back to t3, won so back to tier 2. The problem is, if war rating had not been affected on the "canceled" war these would have all been t2 wars. This cost us around 450k total score.

    We no longer can make p2 because of this, not factoring in them removing the points for the canceled war, we should have 11.55m points. (450k lost because of war rating being affected) and rank 1 t3 has 11.8m. We would still have a good shot at p2 placement without this war rating problem. Not to mention, with the points removed end season, rank 1 would be essentially 200k less than where they are at, where as taking our lost war points away would bring our average up.

    Last time this problem arose, kabam gave everyone who participated in AW, one tier up rewards. I'm humbly asking the same be done here please.

    TLDR: War rating being affected on the "canceled" war genuily cost us p2(or a reasonable chance at p2) this season. (Please read whole article if you want to understand)

    Thank you for your time.
    -Meat










    There are many posts related to this. Kabam is aware of this. Don't waste your time nothing is gonna happen. It is more likely that some people will trash talk you here soon. Just eat it and move on.
    Yeah I mean I suppose you're unaware of what they did last time this happened. It's mentioned in my post. The point of making this post is to make bring continuous attention to the issue. The more people who bring it up, the more likely kabam will do something about it. 🫡
    Good luck
    After looking you up, I see why you're sour towards this topic. Being your post didn't gain the traction and attention you'd hoped. The reason it did not was because you didn't see the real problem that arose, which is what I've outlined in this post. My alliance is one of the few directly affected by this, another reason I waited a few days after the war to make this post; To provide screenshots of the impact.

    Although your post didn't gain the desired attention, doesn't mean you should stop pushing the issue. Feel free to jump on this bandwagon and hope a staff member from kabam is able to read it and fix it for us all.
    I adressed another issue that came with cancelled war. Every alliance is affected by this. There is not only one issue. I just said that Kabam won't take action. The case is closed for them although you adressed another issue. So I gave up.
    I understand, supporting this thread will help you achieve the goal you were trying to reach with your thread though. The more positive feedback, the more likely we will recieve a response from kabam.

    The last time a war was canceled mid season, every alliance that participated was given one tier up season rewards. I'm hoping for the same result.
    My issue wont be fixed but yeah hopefully you get your higher +1 rewards
    I did read your thread, masters alliances are not facing plat 4 alliances because they threw their war, who you match with is based on war rating.

    While masters alliances who threw dropped down and faced slightly lesser opponents than they would, it doesn't affect as large a player base as you think.

    The major standing issue is towards alliances on the cusp of tiers. Where a lost war would drop them to a lower multiplier, making them suffer from a war that should have had no impact on the season.

    It creates a snowball effect for the aforementioned alliances, feel free to read my post and view the screenshots, the canceled war still affecting war rating directly affected my alliances placement or reasonable chance for placement.

    While you may have gone up against a tougher alliance the following war due to them throwing, 1 tier up rewards will in the end benefit everyone and solve the issue at hand(war ratings being affected by the canceled war) - this is the true problem that arose and one you were addressing in your thread whether intentionally or unintentionally.
    No on Tier 1 matchmaking is not based on war rating but on leaderboard. There is no point in arguing against me. One look into the leaderboard and matchups is enough. Alliances that intentionally didn't play 4th war dropped down into platinum 1 Tier 1 and farmed weaker Platinum 1 Alliances to get a better ranking in masters at the end of the season because masters and platinum 1 tier is the same but the skill gap is high. This issue is real but of course it only affects top alliances and alliances that get destroyed by those.

    The other side of the medal is the issue that is adressed in this post. Alliances that dropped a tier at that time have a huge disadvabtage. Your alliance dropped a tier because your war rating got affected and dropped under the Tier 2 war rating. I understand your problem and hope that you will get higher rewards. But please stop talking nonsense about the issue I adressed. Thank you
    Tier 1 wars are based on war rating and leaderboard standing. I.e. the problem you are trying to address and not receiving the feedback you expected is due to the fact that masters alliances are NOT facing low tier 1 alliances.

    Example: WR 4000 in Platinum 1 cannot face WR 3700 platinum 1. Unless there is no one between that gap that they have not already faced. Which is not the case.

    Does the topic you brought up give masters alliances a slight advantage? Potentially, what really happens is that they're just matching with the other ones who did the same because they will be closer in WR and standing.

    So no masters who threw war 4 are not facing like rank 50 p1 alliances.

    Maybe you should ask people before you spew these lies. P2 alliances are fighting LOXC/TCN/SSX/4LOKI etc.
    Yep. WICk, LOXC, and 4LOKI were our last 3 matches. Somehow we're still staying top 3 of P2, but idk wtf is going on lol
    Yeahhhh seems suuuuuper legit. BTW not masters alliances lol, and as stated above, WR and standing affect who you face. So if what you're saying is true. These ***p1*** alliances throwing into p2 and going against you **rank 3** literally just confirms what I've said 😂

    But like I said. Thank you for the bumps🫡
    Please stop. It is embarassing. Those are alliances that reached masters many times. P1 and P2 alliances are no difficult match for them most of the time. You are missing the fact that it is normal to face alliances in Platinum 1 when you are at the top of Platinum 2 because you are matching based on leaderboard are you slow??? They are still on the top of Platinum 2 because they lost against 4Loki with a Tier 1 multiplier while most Platinum 2 alliances that are not at the top have a Tier 2 multiplier because of their rating.

    It is funny how you still don't understand it. Maybe you are not able to or you don't want to.
    I can tell you for a 100% fact 4loki and loxc have placed p1 the last 4?ish seasons. But what do I know 🤦‍♂️
    Yeah your 100% fact is not true. Look at the leaderboard and you see them close to top 10 right now lol. Also you know nothing. I LITERALLY SEE SCREENSHOTS OF CURRENT MATCHMAKING. Also my alliance matches weaker alliances that we should NEVER match.
  • BloodyCrueltyBloodyCruelty Member Posts: 244 ★★
    edited November 6
    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

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    Iammeat5 said:

    This is going to be a bit of a long post, I want to outline why "canceling" a war and removing the points at the end of the season does not fix the problem for some alliances, mine included. Now this does not affect the majority of alliances, it only affects us who are on the brink of a tier rating. I'm sure this topic has already was already posted about when the "canceled" war happened. So if you've read a similar post, feel free to skip this one.

    My alliance had just entered tier 2 the war before the "canceled" one, halfway thru the canceled one we saw the post of it being canceled and decided not to use items(big mistake) we weren't sure if war rating would be affected still(it was).

    Now the problem with war rating being affected is that it has a snowball effect on alliances such as my own. (We lost) the canceled war, which put us back down to a tier 3 multiplier, we proceeded to win the tier 3 war but as most of you know, a t3 win is a t2 loss. So what should have been 1.55m points, was now 1.3m points. Following the win we lost in t2 again, back to t3, won so back to tier 2. The problem is, if war rating had not been affected on the "canceled" war these would have all been t2 wars. This cost us around 450k total score.

    We no longer can make p2 because of this, not factoring in them removing the points for the canceled war, we should have 11.55m points. (450k lost because of war rating being affected) and rank 1 t3 has 11.8m. We would still have a good shot at p2 placement without this war rating problem. Not to mention, with the points removed end season, rank 1 would be essentially 200k less than where they are at, where as taking our lost war points away would bring our average up.

    Last time this problem arose, kabam gave everyone who participated in AW, one tier up rewards. I'm humbly asking the same be done here please.

    TLDR: War rating being affected on the "canceled" war genuily cost us p2(or a reasonable chance at p2) this season. (Please read whole article if you want to understand)

    Thank you for your time.
    -Meat










    There are many posts related to this. Kabam is aware of this. Don't waste your time nothing is gonna happen. It is more likely that some people will trash talk you here soon. Just eat it and move on.
    Yeah I mean I suppose you're unaware of what they did last time this happened. It's mentioned in my post. The point of making this post is to make bring continuous attention to the issue. The more people who bring it up, the more likely kabam will do something about it. 🫡
    Good luck
    After looking you up, I see why you're sour towards this topic. Being your post didn't gain the traction and attention you'd hoped. The reason it did not was because you didn't see the real problem that arose, which is what I've outlined in this post. My alliance is one of the few directly affected by this, another reason I waited a few days after the war to make this post; To provide screenshots of the impact.

    Although your post didn't gain the desired attention, doesn't mean you should stop pushing the issue. Feel free to jump on this bandwagon and hope a staff member from kabam is able to read it and fix it for us all.
    I adressed another issue that came with cancelled war. Every alliance is affected by this. There is not only one issue. I just said that Kabam won't take action. The case is closed for them although you adressed another issue. So I gave up.
    I understand, supporting this thread will help you achieve the goal you were trying to reach with your thread though. The more positive feedback, the more likely we will recieve a response from kabam.

    The last time a war was canceled mid season, every alliance that participated was given one tier up season rewards. I'm hoping for the same result.
    My issue wont be fixed but yeah hopefully you get your higher +1 rewards
    I did read your thread, masters alliances are not facing plat 4 alliances because they threw their war, who you match with is based on war rating.

    While masters alliances who threw dropped down and faced slightly lesser opponents than they would, it doesn't affect as large a player base as you think.

    The major standing issue is towards alliances on the cusp of tiers. Where a lost war would drop them to a lower multiplier, making them suffer from a war that should have had no impact on the season.

    It creates a snowball effect for the aforementioned alliances, feel free to read my post and view the screenshots, the canceled war still affecting war rating directly affected my alliances placement or reasonable chance for placement.

    While you may have gone up against a tougher alliance the following war due to them throwing, 1 tier up rewards will in the end benefit everyone and solve the issue at hand(war ratings being affected by the canceled war) - this is the true problem that arose and one you were addressing in your thread whether intentionally or unintentionally.
    No on Tier 1 matchmaking is not based on war rating but on leaderboard. There is no point in arguing against me. One look into the leaderboard and matchups is enough. Alliances that intentionally didn't play 4th war dropped down into platinum 1 Tier 1 and farmed weaker Platinum 1 Alliances to get a better ranking in masters at the end of the season because masters and platinum 1 tier is the same but the skill gap is high. This issue is real but of course it only affects top alliances and alliances that get destroyed by those.

    The other side of the medal is the issue that is adressed in this post. Alliances that dropped a tier at that time have a huge disadvabtage. Your alliance dropped a tier because your war rating got affected and dropped under the Tier 2 war rating. I understand your problem and hope that you will get higher rewards. But please stop talking nonsense about the issue I adressed. Thank you
    Tier 1 wars are based on war rating and leaderboard standing. I.e. the problem you are trying to address and not receiving the feedback you expected is due to the fact that masters alliances are NOT facing low tier 1 alliances.

    Example: WR 4000 in Platinum 1 cannot face WR 3700 platinum 1. Unless there is no one between that gap that they have not already faced. Which is not the case.

    Does the topic you brought up give masters alliances a slight advantage? Potentially, what really happens is that they're just matching with the other ones who did the same because they will be closer in WR and standing.

    So no masters who threw war 4 are not facing like rank 50 p1 alliances.

    Maybe you should ask people before you spew these lies. P2 alliances are fighting LOXC/TCN/SSX/4LOKI etc.
    Yep. WICk, LOXC, and 4LOKI were our last 3 matches. Somehow we're still staying top 3 of P2, but idk wtf is going on lol
    Yeahhhh seems suuuuuper legit. BTW not masters alliances lol, and as stated above, WR and standing affect who you face. So if what you're saying is true. These ***p1*** alliances throwing into p2 and going against you **rank 3** literally just confirms what I've said 😂

    But like I said. Thank you for the bumps🫡
    Dude. You are so wrong. Read what people are trying to tell you. War rating is not the end all be all to matchmaking. Why do people still think this?
    You're right it's not, as I've tried to explain a few times. It's a combination of both WR and leaderboard standing. WR takes priority. I'm not going to write a paragraph explaining tbh. You can find this information online easily enough.

    This guy and his friends were basically shamed on a post he made saying masters who threw were farming p2 alliances. Completely untrue. And no evidence on top of this. It's just classic masters drama. I provoked them to get more attention on my thread.
    Ah so explain to me why we don't match masters alliances that are chilling in P1 having the same win loss rate and the same rating as we have? Also explain why there will be alliances ranked on top ranks without playing against top ranks? Hmmmm maybe you are just full of bs. But I can tell you the secret: It is because leaderboard takes priority.

    Also I was not shamed in that Post because the issue doesn't exist. Everybody knows that it exists. They were shaming because I wanted the season beeing cancelled and because I called out alliances.
  • DarthMysticDarthMystic Member Posts: 85
    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    This is going to be a bit of a long post, I want to outline why "canceling" a war and removing the points at the end of the season does not fix the problem for some alliances, mine included. Now this does not affect the majority of alliances, it only affects us who are on the brink of a tier rating. I'm sure this topic has already was already posted about when the "canceled" war happened. So if you've read a similar post, feel free to skip this one.

    My alliance had just entered tier 2 the war before the "canceled" one, halfway thru the canceled one we saw the post of it being canceled and decided not to use items(big mistake) we weren't sure if war rating would be affected still(it was).

    Now the problem with war rating being affected is that it has a snowball effect on alliances such as my own. (We lost) the canceled war, which put us back down to a tier 3 multiplier, we proceeded to win the tier 3 war but as most of you know, a t3 win is a t2 loss. So what should have been 1.55m points, was now 1.3m points. Following the win we lost in t2 again, back to t3, won so back to tier 2. The problem is, if war rating had not been affected on the "canceled" war these would have all been t2 wars. This cost us around 450k total score.

    We no longer can make p2 because of this, not factoring in them removing the points for the canceled war, we should have 11.55m points. (450k lost because of war rating being affected) and rank 1 t3 has 11.8m. We would still have a good shot at p2 placement without this war rating problem. Not to mention, with the points removed end season, rank 1 would be essentially 200k less than where they are at, where as taking our lost war points away would bring our average up.

    Last time this problem arose, kabam gave everyone who participated in AW, one tier up rewards. I'm humbly asking the same be done here please.

    TLDR: War rating being affected on the "canceled" war genuily cost us p2(or a reasonable chance at p2) this season. (Please read whole article if you want to understand)

    Thank you for your time.
    -Meat










    There are many posts related to this. Kabam is aware of this. Don't waste your time nothing is gonna happen. It is more likely that some people will trash talk you here soon. Just eat it and move on.
    Yeah I mean I suppose you're unaware of what they did last time this happened. It's mentioned in my post. The point of making this post is to make bring continuous attention to the issue. The more people who bring it up, the more likely kabam will do something about it. 🫡
    Good luck
    After looking you up, I see why you're sour towards this topic. Being your post didn't gain the traction and attention you'd hoped. The reason it did not was because you didn't see the real problem that arose, which is what I've outlined in this post. My alliance is one of the few directly affected by this, another reason I waited a few days after the war to make this post; To provide screenshots of the impact.

    Although your post didn't gain the desired attention, doesn't mean you should stop pushing the issue. Feel free to jump on this bandwagon and hope a staff member from kabam is able to read it and fix it for us all.
    I adressed another issue that came with cancelled war. Every alliance is affected by this. There is not only one issue. I just said that Kabam won't take action. The case is closed for them although you adressed another issue. So I gave up.
    I understand, supporting this thread will help you achieve the goal you were trying to reach with your thread though. The more positive feedback, the more likely we will recieve a response from kabam.

    The last time a war was canceled mid season, every alliance that participated was given one tier up season rewards. I'm hoping for the same result.
    My issue wont be fixed but yeah hopefully you get your higher +1 rewards
    I did read your thread, masters alliances are not facing plat 4 alliances because they threw their war, who you match with is based on war rating.

    While masters alliances who threw dropped down and faced slightly lesser opponents than they would, it doesn't affect as large a player base as you think.

    The major standing issue is towards alliances on the cusp of tiers. Where a lost war would drop them to a lower multiplier, making them suffer from a war that should have had no impact on the season.

    It creates a snowball effect for the aforementioned alliances, feel free to read my post and view the screenshots, the canceled war still affecting war rating directly affected my alliances placement or reasonable chance for placement.

    While you may have gone up against a tougher alliance the following war due to them throwing, 1 tier up rewards will in the end benefit everyone and solve the issue at hand(war ratings being affected by the canceled war) - this is the true problem that arose and one you were addressing in your thread whether intentionally or unintentionally.
    No on Tier 1 matchmaking is not based on war rating but on leaderboard. There is no point in arguing against me. One look into the leaderboard and matchups is enough. Alliances that intentionally didn't play 4th war dropped down into platinum 1 Tier 1 and farmed weaker Platinum 1 Alliances to get a better ranking in masters at the end of the season because masters and platinum 1 tier is the same but the skill gap is high. This issue is real but of course it only affects top alliances and alliances that get destroyed by those.

    The other side of the medal is the issue that is adressed in this post. Alliances that dropped a tier at that time have a huge disadvabtage. Your alliance dropped a tier because your war rating got affected and dropped under the Tier 2 war rating. I understand your problem and hope that you will get higher rewards. But please stop talking nonsense about the issue I adressed. Thank you
    Tier 1 wars are based on war rating and leaderboard standing. I.e. the problem you are trying to address and not receiving the feedback you expected is due to the fact that masters alliances are NOT facing low tier 1 alliances.

    Example: WR 4000 in Platinum 1 cannot face WR 3700 platinum 1. Unless there is no one between that gap that they have not already faced. Which is not the case.

    Does the topic you brought up give masters alliances a slight advantage? Potentially, what really happens is that they're just matching with the other ones who did the same because they will be closer in WR and standing.

    So no masters who threw war 4 are not facing like rank 50 p1 alliances.

    Maybe you should ask people before you spew these lies. P2 alliances are fighting LOXC/TCN/SSX/4LOKI etc.
    Yep. WICk, LOXC, and 4LOKI were our last 3 matches. Somehow we're still staying top 3 of P2, but idk wtf is going on lol
    Yeahhhh seems suuuuuper legit. BTW not masters alliances lol, and as stated above, WR and standing affect who you face. So if what you're saying is true. These ***p1*** alliances throwing into p2 and going against you **rank 3** literally just confirms what I've said 😂

    But like I said. Thank you for the bumps🫡
    Dude. You are so wrong. Read what people are trying to tell you. War rating is not the end all be all to matchmaking. Why do people still think this?
    You're right it's not, as I've tried to explain a few times. It's a combination of both WR and leaderboard standing. WR takes priority. I'm not going to write a paragraph explaining tbh. You can find this information online easily enough.

    This guy and his friends were basically shamed on a post he made saying masters who threw were farming p2 alliances. Completely untrue. And no evidence on top of this. It's just classic masters drama. I provoked them to get more attention on my thread.
    Leaderboard takes priority man. Read what people are telling you. Look at some of the posts in the forum of matchups from war 5 where war ratings were over 500 points different.
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127

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    This is going to be a bit of a long post, I want to outline why "canceling" a war and removing the points at the end of the season does not fix the problem for some alliances, mine included. Now this does not affect the majority of alliances, it only affects us who are on the brink of a tier rating. I'm sure this topic has already was already posted about when the "canceled" war happened. So if you've read a similar post, feel free to skip this one.

    My alliance had just entered tier 2 the war before the "canceled" one, halfway thru the canceled one we saw the post of it being canceled and decided not to use items(big mistake) we weren't sure if war rating would be affected still(it was).

    Now the problem with war rating being affected is that it has a snowball effect on alliances such as my own. (We lost) the canceled war, which put us back down to a tier 3 multiplier, we proceeded to win the tier 3 war but as most of you know, a t3 win is a t2 loss. So what should have been 1.55m points, was now 1.3m points. Following the win we lost in t2 again, back to t3, won so back to tier 2. The problem is, if war rating had not been affected on the "canceled" war these would have all been t2 wars. This cost us around 450k total score.

    We no longer can make p2 because of this, not factoring in them removing the points for the canceled war, we should have 11.55m points. (450k lost because of war rating being affected) and rank 1 t3 has 11.8m. We would still have a good shot at p2 placement without this war rating problem. Not to mention, with the points removed end season, rank 1 would be essentially 200k less than where they are at, where as taking our lost war points away would bring our average up.

    Last time this problem arose, kabam gave everyone who participated in AW, one tier up rewards. I'm humbly asking the same be done here please.

    TLDR: War rating being affected on the "canceled" war genuily cost us p2(or a reasonable chance at p2) this season. (Please read whole article if you want to understand)

    Thank you for your time.
    -Meat










    There are many posts related to this. Kabam is aware of this. Don't waste your time nothing is gonna happen. It is more likely that some people will trash talk you here soon. Just eat it and move on.
    Yeah I mean I suppose you're unaware of what they did last time this happened. It's mentioned in my post. The point of making this post is to make bring continuous attention to the issue. The more people who bring it up, the more likely kabam will do something about it. 🫡
    Good luck
    After looking you up, I see why you're sour towards this topic. Being your post didn't gain the traction and attention you'd hoped. The reason it did not was because you didn't see the real problem that arose, which is what I've outlined in this post. My alliance is one of the few directly affected by this, another reason I waited a few days after the war to make this post; To provide screenshots of the impact.

    Although your post didn't gain the desired attention, doesn't mean you should stop pushing the issue. Feel free to jump on this bandwagon and hope a staff member from kabam is able to read it and fix it for us all.
    I adressed another issue that came with cancelled war. Every alliance is affected by this. There is not only one issue. I just said that Kabam won't take action. The case is closed for them although you adressed another issue. So I gave up.
    I understand, supporting this thread will help you achieve the goal you were trying to reach with your thread though. The more positive feedback, the more likely we will recieve a response from kabam.

    The last time a war was canceled mid season, every alliance that participated was given one tier up season rewards. I'm hoping for the same result.
    My issue wont be fixed but yeah hopefully you get your higher +1 rewards
    I did read your thread, masters alliances are not facing plat 4 alliances because they threw their war, who you match with is based on war rating.

    While masters alliances who threw dropped down and faced slightly lesser opponents than they would, it doesn't affect as large a player base as you think.

    The major standing issue is towards alliances on the cusp of tiers. Where a lost war would drop them to a lower multiplier, making them suffer from a war that should have had no impact on the season.

    It creates a snowball effect for the aforementioned alliances, feel free to read my post and view the screenshots, the canceled war still affecting war rating directly affected my alliances placement or reasonable chance for placement.

    While you may have gone up against a tougher alliance the following war due to them throwing, 1 tier up rewards will in the end benefit everyone and solve the issue at hand(war ratings being affected by the canceled war) - this is the true problem that arose and one you were addressing in your thread whether intentionally or unintentionally.
    No on Tier 1 matchmaking is not based on war rating but on leaderboard. There is no point in arguing against me. One look into the leaderboard and matchups is enough. Alliances that intentionally didn't play 4th war dropped down into platinum 1 Tier 1 and farmed weaker Platinum 1 Alliances to get a better ranking in masters at the end of the season because masters and platinum 1 tier is the same but the skill gap is high. This issue is real but of course it only affects top alliances and alliances that get destroyed by those.

    The other side of the medal is the issue that is adressed in this post. Alliances that dropped a tier at that time have a huge disadvabtage. Your alliance dropped a tier because your war rating got affected and dropped under the Tier 2 war rating. I understand your problem and hope that you will get higher rewards. But please stop talking nonsense about the issue I adressed. Thank you
    Tier 1 wars are based on war rating and leaderboard standing. I.e. the problem you are trying to address and not receiving the feedback you expected is due to the fact that masters alliances are NOT facing low tier 1 alliances.

    Example: WR 4000 in Platinum 1 cannot face WR 3700 platinum 1. Unless there is no one between that gap that they have not already faced. Which is not the case.

    Does the topic you brought up give masters alliances a slight advantage? Potentially, what really happens is that they're just matching with the other ones who did the same because they will be closer in WR and standing.

    So no masters who threw war 4 are not facing like rank 50 p1 alliances.

    Maybe you should ask people before you spew these lies. P2 alliances are fighting LOXC/TCN/SSX/4LOKI etc.
    Yep. WICk, LOXC, and 4LOKI were our last 3 matches. Somehow we're still staying top 3 of P2, but idk wtf is going on lol
    Yeahhhh seems suuuuuper legit. BTW not masters alliances lol, and as stated above, WR and standing affect who you face. So if what you're saying is true. These ***p1*** alliances throwing into p2 and going against you **rank 3** literally just confirms what I've said 😂

    But like I said. Thank you for the bumps🫡
    Dude. You are so wrong. Read what people are trying to tell you. War rating is not the end all be all to matchmaking. Why do people still think this?
    You're right it's not, as I've tried to explain a few times. It's a combination of both WR and leaderboard standing. WR takes priority. I'm not going to write a paragraph explaining tbh. You can find this information online easily enough.

    This guy and his friends were basically shamed on a post he made saying masters who threw were farming p2 alliances. Completely untrue. And no evidence on top of this. It's just classic masters drama. I provoked them to get more attention on my thread.
    Ah so explain to me why we don't match masters alliances that are chilling in P1 having the same win loss rate and the same rating as we have? Also explain why there will be alliances ranked on top ranks without playing against top ranks? Hmmmm maybe you are just full of bs. But I can tell you the secret: It is because leaderboard takes priority.

    Also I was not shamed in that Post because the issue doesn't exist. Everybody knows that it exists. They were shaming because I wanted the season beeing cancelled and because I called out alliances.
    I know alot more than you think I do about t1/masters. Including that you've pretty much burned any chance you had at getting into a masters alliances by what you've done on the forums.

    But like I've said multiple times, thank you for the bumps.
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127

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    This is going to be a bit of a long post, I want to outline why "canceling" a war and removing the points at the end of the season does not fix the problem for some alliances, mine included. Now this does not affect the majority of alliances, it only affects us who are on the brink of a tier rating. I'm sure this topic has already was already posted about when the "canceled" war happened. So if you've read a similar post, feel free to skip this one.

    My alliance had just entered tier 2 the war before the "canceled" one, halfway thru the canceled one we saw the post of it being canceled and decided not to use items(big mistake) we weren't sure if war rating would be affected still(it was).

    Now the problem with war rating being affected is that it has a snowball effect on alliances such as my own. (We lost) the canceled war, which put us back down to a tier 3 multiplier, we proceeded to win the tier 3 war but as most of you know, a t3 win is a t2 loss. So what should have been 1.55m points, was now 1.3m points. Following the win we lost in t2 again, back to t3, won so back to tier 2. The problem is, if war rating had not been affected on the "canceled" war these would have all been t2 wars. This cost us around 450k total score.

    We no longer can make p2 because of this, not factoring in them removing the points for the canceled war, we should have 11.55m points. (450k lost because of war rating being affected) and rank 1 t3 has 11.8m. We would still have a good shot at p2 placement without this war rating problem. Not to mention, with the points removed end season, rank 1 would be essentially 200k less than where they are at, where as taking our lost war points away would bring our average up.

    Last time this problem arose, kabam gave everyone who participated in AW, one tier up rewards. I'm humbly asking the same be done here please.

    TLDR: War rating being affected on the "canceled" war genuily cost us p2(or a reasonable chance at p2) this season. (Please read whole article if you want to understand)

    Thank you for your time.
    -Meat










    There are many posts related to this. Kabam is aware of this. Don't waste your time nothing is gonna happen. It is more likely that some people will trash talk you here soon. Just eat it and move on.
    Yeah I mean I suppose you're unaware of what they did last time this happened. It's mentioned in my post. The point of making this post is to make bring continuous attention to the issue. The more people who bring it up, the more likely kabam will do something about it. 🫡
    Good luck
    After looking you up, I see why you're sour towards this topic. Being your post didn't gain the traction and attention you'd hoped. The reason it did not was because you didn't see the real problem that arose, which is what I've outlined in this post. My alliance is one of the few directly affected by this, another reason I waited a few days after the war to make this post; To provide screenshots of the impact.

    Although your post didn't gain the desired attention, doesn't mean you should stop pushing the issue. Feel free to jump on this bandwagon and hope a staff member from kabam is able to read it and fix it for us all.
    I adressed another issue that came with cancelled war. Every alliance is affected by this. There is not only one issue. I just said that Kabam won't take action. The case is closed for them although you adressed another issue. So I gave up.
    I understand, supporting this thread will help you achieve the goal you were trying to reach with your thread though. The more positive feedback, the more likely we will recieve a response from kabam.

    The last time a war was canceled mid season, every alliance that participated was given one tier up season rewards. I'm hoping for the same result.
    My issue wont be fixed but yeah hopefully you get your higher +1 rewards
    I did read your thread, masters alliances are not facing plat 4 alliances because they threw their war, who you match with is based on war rating.

    While masters alliances who threw dropped down and faced slightly lesser opponents than they would, it doesn't affect as large a player base as you think.

    The major standing issue is towards alliances on the cusp of tiers. Where a lost war would drop them to a lower multiplier, making them suffer from a war that should have had no impact on the season.

    It creates a snowball effect for the aforementioned alliances, feel free to read my post and view the screenshots, the canceled war still affecting war rating directly affected my alliances placement or reasonable chance for placement.

    While you may have gone up against a tougher alliance the following war due to them throwing, 1 tier up rewards will in the end benefit everyone and solve the issue at hand(war ratings being affected by the canceled war) - this is the true problem that arose and one you were addressing in your thread whether intentionally or unintentionally.
    No on Tier 1 matchmaking is not based on war rating but on leaderboard. There is no point in arguing against me. One look into the leaderboard and matchups is enough. Alliances that intentionally didn't play 4th war dropped down into platinum 1 Tier 1 and farmed weaker Platinum 1 Alliances to get a better ranking in masters at the end of the season because masters and platinum 1 tier is the same but the skill gap is high. This issue is real but of course it only affects top alliances and alliances that get destroyed by those.

    The other side of the medal is the issue that is adressed in this post. Alliances that dropped a tier at that time have a huge disadvabtage. Your alliance dropped a tier because your war rating got affected and dropped under the Tier 2 war rating. I understand your problem and hope that you will get higher rewards. But please stop talking nonsense about the issue I adressed. Thank you
    Tier 1 wars are based on war rating and leaderboard standing. I.e. the problem you are trying to address and not receiving the feedback you expected is due to the fact that masters alliances are NOT facing low tier 1 alliances.

    Example: WR 4000 in Platinum 1 cannot face WR 3700 platinum 1. Unless there is no one between that gap that they have not already faced. Which is not the case.

    Does the topic you brought up give masters alliances a slight advantage? Potentially, what really happens is that they're just matching with the other ones who did the same because they will be closer in WR and standing.

    So no masters who threw war 4 are not facing like rank 50 p1 alliances.

    Maybe you should ask people before you spew these lies. P2 alliances are fighting LOXC/TCN/SSX/4LOKI etc.
    Yep. WICk, LOXC, and 4LOKI were our last 3 matches. Somehow we're still staying top 3 of P2, but idk wtf is going on lol
    Yeahhhh seems suuuuuper legit. BTW not masters alliances lol, and as stated above, WR and standing affect who you face. So if what you're saying is true. These ***p1*** alliances throwing into p2 and going against you **rank 3** literally just confirms what I've said 😂

    But like I said. Thank you for the bumps🫡
    Dude. You are so wrong. Read what people are trying to tell you. War rating is not the end all be all to matchmaking. Why do people still think this?
    You're right it's not, as I've tried to explain a few times. It's a combination of both WR and leaderboard standing. WR takes priority. I'm not going to write a paragraph explaining tbh. You can find this information online easily enough.

    This guy and his friends were basically shamed on a post he made saying masters who threw were farming p2 alliances. Completely untrue. And no evidence on top of this. It's just classic masters drama. I provoked them to get more attention on my thread.
    Leaderboard takes priority man. Read what people are telling you. Look at some of the posts in the forum of matchups from war 5 where war ratings were over 500 points different.
    Yeah, no. The situations you're talking about are surrounding p1 alliances dropped down into p2, so now they're matching p2 alliances but they are matching the closest WR alliance in p2 that they have not yet had a war with. Unfortunately in some cases this can result in a 500 gap(although to be completely honest I think you're exaggerating this number, it's probably closer to 300, which is still very bad)

    The truth of the matter is that no one has data mined how match making truly works anymore. Everything you see is speculation. Now while not everyone agrees on what happens, the most common leading theory is WR>standing. Which is backed up by a large amount of evidence.

    You should also remain aware that because 3(?)other people have separate opinions than mine on this thread, that doesn't mean they represent the majority of what players think. Any adult would understand this.

    So telling me to listen what 3 other people's *opinions* on a topic is and take that for fact is the same as if you were to have an argument with 3 other people who told you the earth was flat, and them being the majority in that situation constituted enough evidence the earth is in fact flat.

    Hope this helps 🫡 thank you for the bumps. Incase you weren't listening, this is my only purpose for engaging with those people.

  • BloodyCrueltyBloodyCruelty Member Posts: 244 ★★
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    This is going to be a bit of a long post, I want to outline why "canceling" a war and removing the points at the end of the season does not fix the problem for some alliances, mine included. Now this does not affect the majority of alliances, it only affects us who are on the brink of a tier rating. I'm sure this topic has already was already posted about when the "canceled" war happened. So if you've read a similar post, feel free to skip this one.

    My alliance had just entered tier 2 the war before the "canceled" one, halfway thru the canceled one we saw the post of it being canceled and decided not to use items(big mistake) we weren't sure if war rating would be affected still(it was).

    Now the problem with war rating being affected is that it has a snowball effect on alliances such as my own. (We lost) the canceled war, which put us back down to a tier 3 multiplier, we proceeded to win the tier 3 war but as most of you know, a t3 win is a t2 loss. So what should have been 1.55m points, was now 1.3m points. Following the win we lost in t2 again, back to t3, won so back to tier 2. The problem is, if war rating had not been affected on the "canceled" war these would have all been t2 wars. This cost us around 450k total score.

    We no longer can make p2 because of this, not factoring in them removing the points for the canceled war, we should have 11.55m points. (450k lost because of war rating being affected) and rank 1 t3 has 11.8m. We would still have a good shot at p2 placement without this war rating problem. Not to mention, with the points removed end season, rank 1 would be essentially 200k less than where they are at, where as taking our lost war points away would bring our average up.

    Last time this problem arose, kabam gave everyone who participated in AW, one tier up rewards. I'm humbly asking the same be done here please.

    TLDR: War rating being affected on the "canceled" war genuily cost us p2(or a reasonable chance at p2) this season. (Please read whole article if you want to understand)

    Thank you for your time.
    -Meat










    There are many posts related to this. Kabam is aware of this. Don't waste your time nothing is gonna happen. It is more likely that some people will trash talk you here soon. Just eat it and move on.
    Yeah I mean I suppose you're unaware of what they did last time this happened. It's mentioned in my post. The point of making this post is to make bring continuous attention to the issue. The more people who bring it up, the more likely kabam will do something about it. 🫡
    Good luck
    After looking you up, I see why you're sour towards this topic. Being your post didn't gain the traction and attention you'd hoped. The reason it did not was because you didn't see the real problem that arose, which is what I've outlined in this post. My alliance is one of the few directly affected by this, another reason I waited a few days after the war to make this post; To provide screenshots of the impact.

    Although your post didn't gain the desired attention, doesn't mean you should stop pushing the issue. Feel free to jump on this bandwagon and hope a staff member from kabam is able to read it and fix it for us all.
    I adressed another issue that came with cancelled war. Every alliance is affected by this. There is not only one issue. I just said that Kabam won't take action. The case is closed for them although you adressed another issue. So I gave up.
    I understand, supporting this thread will help you achieve the goal you were trying to reach with your thread though. The more positive feedback, the more likely we will recieve a response from kabam.

    The last time a war was canceled mid season, every alliance that participated was given one tier up season rewards. I'm hoping for the same result.
    My issue wont be fixed but yeah hopefully you get your higher +1 rewards
    I did read your thread, masters alliances are not facing plat 4 alliances because they threw their war, who you match with is based on war rating.

    While masters alliances who threw dropped down and faced slightly lesser opponents than they would, it doesn't affect as large a player base as you think.

    The major standing issue is towards alliances on the cusp of tiers. Where a lost war would drop them to a lower multiplier, making them suffer from a war that should have had no impact on the season.

    It creates a snowball effect for the aforementioned alliances, feel free to read my post and view the screenshots, the canceled war still affecting war rating directly affected my alliances placement or reasonable chance for placement.

    While you may have gone up against a tougher alliance the following war due to them throwing, 1 tier up rewards will in the end benefit everyone and solve the issue at hand(war ratings being affected by the canceled war) - this is the true problem that arose and one you were addressing in your thread whether intentionally or unintentionally.
    No on Tier 1 matchmaking is not based on war rating but on leaderboard. There is no point in arguing against me. One look into the leaderboard and matchups is enough. Alliances that intentionally didn't play 4th war dropped down into platinum 1 Tier 1 and farmed weaker Platinum 1 Alliances to get a better ranking in masters at the end of the season because masters and platinum 1 tier is the same but the skill gap is high. This issue is real but of course it only affects top alliances and alliances that get destroyed by those.

    The other side of the medal is the issue that is adressed in this post. Alliances that dropped a tier at that time have a huge disadvabtage. Your alliance dropped a tier because your war rating got affected and dropped under the Tier 2 war rating. I understand your problem and hope that you will get higher rewards. But please stop talking nonsense about the issue I adressed. Thank you
    Tier 1 wars are based on war rating and leaderboard standing. I.e. the problem you are trying to address and not receiving the feedback you expected is due to the fact that masters alliances are NOT facing low tier 1 alliances.

    Example: WR 4000 in Platinum 1 cannot face WR 3700 platinum 1. Unless there is no one between that gap that they have not already faced. Which is not the case.

    Does the topic you brought up give masters alliances a slight advantage? Potentially, what really happens is that they're just matching with the other ones who did the same because they will be closer in WR and standing.

    So no masters who threw war 4 are not facing like rank 50 p1 alliances.

    Maybe you should ask people before you spew these lies. P2 alliances are fighting LOXC/TCN/SSX/4LOKI etc.
    Yep. WICk, LOXC, and 4LOKI were our last 3 matches. Somehow we're still staying top 3 of P2, but idk wtf is going on lol
    Yeahhhh seems suuuuuper legit. BTW not masters alliances lol, and as stated above, WR and standing affect who you face. So if what you're saying is true. These ***p1*** alliances throwing into p2 and going against you **rank 3** literally just confirms what I've said 😂

    But like I said. Thank you for the bumps🫡
    Dude. You are so wrong. Read what people are trying to tell you. War rating is not the end all be all to matchmaking. Why do people still think this?
    You're right it's not, as I've tried to explain a few times. It's a combination of both WR and leaderboard standing. WR takes priority. I'm not going to write a paragraph explaining tbh. You can find this information online easily enough.

    This guy and his friends were basically shamed on a post he made saying masters who threw were farming p2 alliances. Completely untrue. And no evidence on top of this. It's just classic masters drama. I provoked them to get more attention on my thread.
    Ah so explain to me why we don't match masters alliances that are chilling in P1 having the same win loss rate and the same rating as we have? Also explain why there will be alliances ranked on top ranks without playing against top ranks? Hmmmm maybe you are just full of bs. But I can tell you the secret: It is because leaderboard takes priority.

    Also I was not shamed in that Post because the issue doesn't exist. Everybody knows that it exists. They were shaming because I wanted the season beeing cancelled and because I called out alliances.
    I know alot more than you think I do about t1/masters. Including that you've pretty much burned any chance you had at getting into a masters alliances by what you've done on the forums.

    But like I've said multiple times, thank you for the bumps.
    What did I do in the forums? I did nothing wrong lol. Telling the truth and addressing issues is bad?

    Also I would say that almost every masters alliance would give me a spot because I am playing in one but thanks for your pro opinion.
  • BloodyCrueltyBloodyCruelty Member Posts: 244 ★★
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    Yeah you are right it is completely normal for us to match an alliance with 3.7 rating and 2+ losses before we match an alliance with 3.9 rating and no losses 😂😂😂 you are living in a fantasy world.
  • BloodyCrueltyBloodyCruelty Member Posts: 244 ★★
    There is also a name for this. It is called tanking a season but yeah you definitely know more than me. @Iammeat5
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127



    Yeah you are right it is completely normal for us to match an alliance with 3.7 rating and 2+ losses before we match an alliance with 3.9 rating and no losses 😂😂😂 you are living in a fantasy world.

    Okay so let's say you are in nefti and matched with inda. Rank 1 vs master 1 rank 5(?) Once again, fits exactly what I said. Based on WR and standing. Are you upset You're not against a p1 alliance? Is that the point of all your whining on the forums?

    And yeah, you've made alooot of people sour towards you based on your forum post complaining. You've pretty much shot yourself in the foot doing it and we're both aware of it.

    If you really want to convince me then please show me where either kabam or the code in this game explains the matchmaking process.

    I'll

    Wait. 😂
  • BloodyCrueltyBloodyCruelty Member Posts: 244 ★★
    Oh hell no I accidentally deleted my post
  • BloodyCrueltyBloodyCruelty Member Posts: 244 ★★
    edited November 7
    -I will explain again-
    There are 4 matchmaking rules:
    1. Leaderboard
    2. War rating
    3. Attack bonusses
    4. Win loss rate
    If you lose a war and don't explore the map you will lose 1.5 million points. This counts as 5 losses and it will shoot you deep into P1.

    Now there are also other masters alliances who did this so because of war rating you can match them in P1 if you are unlucky. But because there are just a few of them in P1 you will more likely match alliances that are close to your ranking in the leaderboard. You won't match Top 10 even if your war rating was 5k😂

    I know that alliances like CHAOS and NEXT also matched Masters alliances in P1 yes. So you are somehow right but they also matched P1 alliances that are a lot weaker than them. It is a free win.

    This also works vice versa. P1 alliances that played serious in 4th war took the ranks of the master alliances that said bye and dropped into P1. So basically you screw P1 alliances in P1 and P1 alliances in masters.😂😂😂.

    A master top 10 alliance should not match a P1 alliance that often in a season. This is what you see in my post. We should never match this alliance that late in the season because they have losses and a low rating. They are just in Top 10 because of 4th war and now they are suffering. We should match CHAOS or NEXT for example because they are big alliances with same big rating and same win loss rating.

    But the matchmaking system cant match them with us because they are in P1 and too far away in the leaderboard. So in the end they can finish above top alliances without matching them. This is not fair.

    There is also a big difference between an average master alliance and a top 5 alliance full of sweaters. For example CHAOS has a full focus on BGs and AQ where they clearly shine so they are not AW slaves that sweat, plan and invest in war like we do. So they probably won't win against us or another Top 5 alliance -> this is why their ranking is not fair.

    There is also the issue that you addressed because your alliance dropped a Tier in that war so you have a huge multiplicator disadvantage. I supported you until you started trolling.

    So in conclusion: You are somehow right with war rating but 4th war affected matchmaking so hard that leaderboard is clearly priority.

    Also I don't care about sour people. I don't want to play in alliances that are tanking wars anyway. So it is a win win. My alliance war footage will give me access to the alliances I want to play in and that I really respect.

    To be fair I know that I was too aggressive in my posts.

    Have a great day @Iammeat5 I hope you understand now
  • BloodyCrueltyBloodyCruelty Member Posts: 244 ★★
    Also the fact that those alliances are ranked in Top 1-10 but didn't match the Top 1-10 alliances because they are ranked in P1 right now just proves my point. Kabam will delete the points at the end of the season and abra kadabra they will be in Top 5 without playing against actual top 5 alliances that didn't drop. There is nothing wrong in addressing this in the forum so Kabam has to react and give compensation. Like I said this is called Season tanking.
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127

    Also the fact that those alliances are ranked in Top 1-10 but didn't match the Top 1-10 alliances because they are ranked in P1 right now just proves my point. Kabam will delete the points at the end of the season and abra kadabra they will be in Top 5 without playing against actual top 5 alliances that didn't drop. There is nothing wrong in addressing this in the forum so Kabam has to react and give compensation. Like I said this is called Season tanking.

    I'm going to need some cliff notes to be honest. I don't have the time to be able to read a post that takes up 1/3 of a forum page, nothing personal. I do appreciate the conversation/argument though. But please, a couple paragraphs responses at most if you don't mind.
  • BloodyCrueltyBloodyCruelty Member Posts: 244 ★★
    Iammeat5 said:

    Also the fact that those alliances are ranked in Top 1-10 but didn't match the Top 1-10 alliances because they are ranked in P1 right now just proves my point. Kabam will delete the points at the end of the season and abra kadabra they will be in Top 5 without playing against actual top 5 alliances that didn't drop. There is nothing wrong in addressing this in the forum so Kabam has to react and give compensation. Like I said this is called Season tanking.

    I'm going to need some cliff notes to be honest. I don't have the time to be able to read a post that takes up 1/3 of a forum page, nothing personal. I do appreciate the conversation/argument though. But please, a couple paragraphs responses at most if you don't mind.
    My post will enlighten you because your pride will be undermined by the fact that I agree with you in some points. At the same time I wanted to end this annoying discussion so I gave you the big and friendly explanation.
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127

    Iammeat5 said:

    Also the fact that those alliances are ranked in Top 1-10 but didn't match the Top 1-10 alliances because they are ranked in P1 right now just proves my point. Kabam will delete the points at the end of the season and abra kadabra they will be in Top 5 without playing against actual top 5 alliances that didn't drop. There is nothing wrong in addressing this in the forum so Kabam has to react and give compensation. Like I said this is called Season tanking.

    I'm going to need some cliff notes to be honest. I don't have the time to be able to read a post that takes up 1/3 of a forum page, nothing personal. I do appreciate the conversation/argument though. But please, a couple paragraphs responses at most if you don't mind.
    My post will enlighten you because your pride will be undermined by the fact that I agree with you in some points. At the same time I wanted to end this annoying discussion so I gave you the big and friendly explanation.
    Then I will read it when I get the chance tomorrow. I assumed you were still commenting at this point to just bump the thread.
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127
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  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127

    -I will explain again-
    There are 4 matchmaking rules:
    1. Leaderboard
    2. War rating
    3. Attack bonusses
    4. Win loss rate
    If you lose a war and don't explore the map you will lose 1.5 million points. This counts as 5 losses and it will shoot you deep into P1.

    Now there are also other masters alliances who did this so because of war rating you can match them in P1 if you are unlucky. But because there are just a few of them in P1 you will more likely match alliances that are close to your ranking in the leaderboard. You won't match Top 10 even if your war rating was 5k😂

    I know that alliances like CHAOS and NEXT also matched Masters alliances in P1 yes. So you are somehow right but they also matched P1 alliances that are a lot weaker than them. It is a free win.

    This also works vice versa. P1 alliances that played serious in 4th war took the ranks of the master alliances that said bye and dropped into P1. So basically you screw P1 alliances in P1 and P1 alliances in masters.😂😂😂.

    A master top 10 alliance should not match a P1 alliance that often in a season. This is what you see in my post. We should never match this alliance that late in the season because they have losses and a low rating. They are just in Top 10 because of 4th war and now they are suffering. We should match CHAOS or NEXT for example because they are big alliances with same big rating and same win loss rating.

    But the matchmaking system cant match them with us because they are in P1 and too far away in the leaderboard. So in the end they can finish above top alliances without matching them. This is not fair.

    There is also a big difference between an average master alliance and a top 5 alliance full of sweaters. For example CHAOS has a full focus on BGs and AQ where they clearly shine so they are not AW slaves that sweat, plan and invest in war like we do. So they probably won't win against us or another Top 5 alliance -> this is why their ranking is not fair.

    There is also the issue that you addressed because your alliance dropped a Tier in that war so you have a huge multiplicator disadvantage. I supported you until you started trolling.

    So in conclusion: You are somehow right with war rating but 4th war affected matchmaking so hard that leaderboard is clearly priority.

    Also I don't care about sour people. I don't want to play in alliances that are tanking wars anyway. So it is a win win. My alliance war footage will give me access to the alliances I want to play in and that I really respect.

    To be fair I know that I was too aggressive in my posts.

    Have a great day @Iammeat5 I hope you understand now

    I wouldn't go as far as to say I was trolling you, it was more so just to keep this thread bumped in hopes someone from kabam would see it but as I said. No one truly knows with 100% certainty how matchmaking works. Kabam has never fully elaborated nor has anyone mined and analyzed the data. At the end of the day it's all speculation and an argument can be made for either side. It's sort of why I chose to engage with you on it, I stated a few times I was only doing so to get this thread attention. I figured since you continued responding you understood that.

    Should you have argued my side instead of yours, I would have taken your side simply to continue the conversation. If you get what I am saying.

    I do understand the impact this has on tier 1 wars. Last time a war was canceled masters alliances did the same thing. Not as many as this time though. I originally was not going to make this post because I know people playing at your level are going to put up more of a fight against kabam over this issue. Just as last time.

    Last time kabam also gave 1 tier up rewards which benefits 99% of aw players. I understand it potentially doesn't solve your issue because you could go from rank 1 to masters 1 and one tier up rewards wouldn't be appropriate compensation, being you've dropped essentially 3 tiers. I'm sorry. It's not fair, I understand.

    I hope kabam is able to do something fair for your alliance as well here, or fingers crossed you're somehow able to still place podium(not unrealistic for nefti)

    And all jokes aside, I hope there is no lasting impact from you making your post. We both know player masters is half politics, half game play. It's why I personally shyed away from trying to get into it myself a while back.

    Best of luck.

  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127

    Iammeat5 said:

    Also the fact that those alliances are ranked in Top 1-10 but didn't match the Top 1-10 alliances because they are ranked in P1 right now just proves my point. Kabam will delete the points at the end of the season and abra kadabra they will be in Top 5 without playing against actual top 5 alliances that didn't drop. There is nothing wrong in addressing this in the forum so Kabam has to react and give compensation. Like I said this is called Season tanking.

    I'm going to need some cliff notes to be honest. I don't have the time to be able to read a post that takes up 1/3 of a forum page, nothing personal. I do appreciate the conversation/argument though. But please, a couple paragraphs responses at most if you don't mind.
    My post will enlighten you because your pride will be undermined by the fact that I agree with you in some points. At the same time I wanted to end this annoying discussion so I gave you the big and friendly explanation.
    I had a friend who blew the whistle on F&G a few seasons ago when they were abusing the force close no ab loss. He didn't wanna participate or be in an alliance who took advantage the same as you. Unfortunately it ended up getting him pretty much black listed from masters.

    They also kicked him on the last war after it started. (He still got season rewards after a ticket to kabam)

    Just be careful
  • BloodyCrueltyBloodyCruelty Member Posts: 244 ★★
    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Also the fact that those alliances are ranked in Top 1-10 but didn't match the Top 1-10 alliances because they are ranked in P1 right now just proves my point. Kabam will delete the points at the end of the season and abra kadabra they will be in Top 5 without playing against actual top 5 alliances that didn't drop. There is nothing wrong in addressing this in the forum so Kabam has to react and give compensation. Like I said this is called Season tanking.

    I'm going to need some cliff notes to be honest. I don't have the time to be able to read a post that takes up 1/3 of a forum page, nothing personal. I do appreciate the conversation/argument though. But please, a couple paragraphs responses at most if you don't mind.
    My post will enlighten you because your pride will be undermined by the fact that I agree with you in some points. At the same time I wanted to end this annoying discussion so I gave you the big and friendly explanation.
    I had a friend who blew the whistle on F&G a few seasons ago when they were abusing the force close no ab loss. He didn't wanna participate or be in an alliance who took advantage the same as you. Unfortunately it ended up getting him pretty much black listed from masters.

    They also kicked him on the last war after it started. (He still got season rewards after a ticket to kabam)

    Just be careful
    Yeah my alliance likes me and I know many masters Officers and leaders that like me and they don't care. If they blacklist me from masters I don't really care, I will just retire.

    My alliance Nefti will be most probably #1 this season again. For us the season was not unfair because we matched the big alliances in the first half and won everything anyway. I did this post because I don't want to see Top 20/P1 Alliances on Podium because of 4th war.

    I also wouldnt care about us not beeing #1 as long as the #1 alliance reached it fair and square. My post was never about my alliance because we are going to get #1 rewards anyway. Iam just always angry about screwed up seasons so I posted it😂
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Also the fact that those alliances are ranked in Top 1-10 but didn't match the Top 1-10 alliances because they are ranked in P1 right now just proves my point. Kabam will delete the points at the end of the season and abra kadabra they will be in Top 5 without playing against actual top 5 alliances that didn't drop. There is nothing wrong in addressing this in the forum so Kabam has to react and give compensation. Like I said this is called Season tanking.

    I'm going to need some cliff notes to be honest. I don't have the time to be able to read a post that takes up 1/3 of a forum page, nothing personal. I do appreciate the conversation/argument though. But please, a couple paragraphs responses at most if you don't mind.
    My post will enlighten you because your pride will be undermined by the fact that I agree with you in some points. At the same time I wanted to end this annoying discussion so I gave you the big and friendly explanation.
    I had a friend who blew the whistle on F&G a few seasons ago when they were abusing the force close no ab loss. He didn't wanna participate or be in an alliance who took advantage the same as you. Unfortunately it ended up getting him pretty much black listed from masters.

    They also kicked him on the last war after it started. (He still got season rewards after a ticket to kabam)

    Just be careful
    Yeah my alliance likes me and I know many masters Officers and leaders that like me and they don't care. If they blacklist me from masters I don't really care, I will just retire.

    My alliance Nefti will be most probably #1 this season again. For us the season was not unfair because we matched the big alliances in the first half and won everything anyway. I did this post because I don't want to see Top 20/P1 Alliances on Podium because of 4th war.

    I also wouldnt care about us not beeing #1 as long as the #1 alliance reached it fair and square. My post was never about my alliance because we are going to get #1 rewards anyway. Iam just always angry about screwed up seasons so I posted it😂
    That's good, masters is basically just knowing people to an extent lol.

    And yeah I feel you, they should have canceled the season. Kabam knows better, especially since this whole situation already happened a few months ago with the force close no ab loss scandal.

    Even if you guys took advantage of it, it's not like everyone doesn't already know nefti has been podium for the last year+ more respect for not doing it. Like no one can say you, gt40, and salty aren't deserving of podium regardless. Maybe less gt40 these days, seems they retired
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Also the fact that those alliances are ranked in Top 1-10 but didn't match the Top 1-10 alliances because they are ranked in P1 right now just proves my point. Kabam will delete the points at the end of the season and abra kadabra they will be in Top 5 without playing against actual top 5 alliances that didn't drop. There is nothing wrong in addressing this in the forum so Kabam has to react and give compensation. Like I said this is called Season tanking.

    I'm going to need some cliff notes to be honest. I don't have the time to be able to read a post that takes up 1/3 of a forum page, nothing personal. I do appreciate the conversation/argument though. But please, a couple paragraphs responses at most if you don't mind.
    My post will enlighten you because your pride will be undermined by the fact that I agree with you in some points. At the same time I wanted to end this annoying discussion so I gave you the big and friendly explanation.
    I had a friend who blew the whistle on F&G a few seasons ago when they were abusing the force close no ab loss. He didn't wanna participate or be in an alliance who took advantage the same as you. Unfortunately it ended up getting him pretty much black listed from masters.

    They also kicked him on the last war after it started. (He still got season rewards after a ticket to kabam)

    Just be careful
    Yeah my alliance likes me and I know many masters Officers and leaders that like me and they don't care. If they blacklist me from masters I don't really care, I will just retire.

    My alliance Nefti will be most probably #1 this season again. For us the season was not unfair because we matched the big alliances in the first half and won everything anyway. I did this post because I don't want to see Top 20/P1 Alliances on Podium because of 4th war.

    I also wouldnt care about us not beeing #1 as long as the #1 alliance reached it fair and square. My post was never about my alliance because we are going to get #1 rewards anyway. Iam just always angry about screwed up seasons so I posted it😂
    Also do you know what happened with rank 1 last time they gave tier up rewards? I vaguely remember they gave rank 1 some extra stuff too but I'm honestly not sure
  • BloodyCrueltyBloodyCruelty Member Posts: 244 ★★
    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Also the fact that those alliances are ranked in Top 1-10 but didn't match the Top 1-10 alliances because they are ranked in P1 right now just proves my point. Kabam will delete the points at the end of the season and abra kadabra they will be in Top 5 without playing against actual top 5 alliances that didn't drop. There is nothing wrong in addressing this in the forum so Kabam has to react and give compensation. Like I said this is called Season tanking.

    I'm going to need some cliff notes to be honest. I don't have the time to be able to read a post that takes up 1/3 of a forum page, nothing personal. I do appreciate the conversation/argument though. But please, a couple paragraphs responses at most if you don't mind.
    My post will enlighten you because your pride will be undermined by the fact that I agree with you in some points. At the same time I wanted to end this annoying discussion so I gave you the big and friendly explanation.
    I had a friend who blew the whistle on F&G a few seasons ago when they were abusing the force close no ab loss. He didn't wanna participate or be in an alliance who took advantage the same as you. Unfortunately it ended up getting him pretty much black listed from masters.

    They also kicked him on the last war after it started. (He still got season rewards after a ticket to kabam)

    Just be careful
    Yeah my alliance likes me and I know many masters Officers and leaders that like me and they don't care. If they blacklist me from masters I don't really care, I will just retire.

    My alliance Nefti will be most probably #1 this season again. For us the season was not unfair because we matched the big alliances in the first half and won everything anyway. I did this post because I don't want to see Top 20/P1 Alliances on Podium because of 4th war.

    I also wouldnt care about us not beeing #1 as long as the #1 alliance reached it fair and square. My post was never about my alliance because we are going to get #1 rewards anyway. Iam just always angry about screwed up seasons so I posted it😂
    That's good, masters is basically just knowing people to an extent lol.

    And yeah I feel you, they should have canceled the season. Kabam knows better, especially since this whole situation already happened a few months ago with the force close no ab loss scandal.

    Even if you guys took advantage of it, it's not like everyone doesn't already know nefti has been podium for the last year+ more respect for not doing it. Like no one can say you, gt40, and salty aren't deserving of podium regardless. Maybe less gt40 these days, seems they retired
    Yeah GT40 took a break. They will return next season.
  • BloodyCrueltyBloodyCruelty Member Posts: 244 ★★
    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Also the fact that those alliances are ranked in Top 1-10 but didn't match the Top 1-10 alliances because they are ranked in P1 right now just proves my point. Kabam will delete the points at the end of the season and abra kadabra they will be in Top 5 without playing against actual top 5 alliances that didn't drop. There is nothing wrong in addressing this in the forum so Kabam has to react and give compensation. Like I said this is called Season tanking.

    I'm going to need some cliff notes to be honest. I don't have the time to be able to read a post that takes up 1/3 of a forum page, nothing personal. I do appreciate the conversation/argument though. But please, a couple paragraphs responses at most if you don't mind.
    My post will enlighten you because your pride will be undermined by the fact that I agree with you in some points. At the same time I wanted to end this annoying discussion so I gave you the big and friendly explanation.
    I had a friend who blew the whistle on F&G a few seasons ago when they were abusing the force close no ab loss. He didn't wanna participate or be in an alliance who took advantage the same as you. Unfortunately it ended up getting him pretty much black listed from masters.

    They also kicked him on the last war after it started. (He still got season rewards after a ticket to kabam)

    Just be careful
    Yeah my alliance likes me and I know many masters Officers and leaders that like me and they don't care. If they blacklist me from masters I don't really care, I will just retire.

    My alliance Nefti will be most probably #1 this season again. For us the season was not unfair because we matched the big alliances in the first half and won everything anyway. I did this post because I don't want to see Top 20/P1 Alliances on Podium because of 4th war.

    I also wouldnt care about us not beeing #1 as long as the #1 alliance reached it fair and square. My post was never about my alliance because we are going to get #1 rewards anyway. Iam just always angry about screwed up seasons so I posted it😂
    Also do you know what happened with rank 1 last time they gave tier up rewards? I vaguely remember they gave rank 1 some extra stuff too but I'm honestly not sure
    We will see :)
  • Iammeat5Iammeat5 Member Posts: 127

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Iammeat5 said:

    Also the fact that those alliances are ranked in Top 1-10 but didn't match the Top 1-10 alliances because they are ranked in P1 right now just proves my point. Kabam will delete the points at the end of the season and abra kadabra they will be in Top 5 without playing against actual top 5 alliances that didn't drop. There is nothing wrong in addressing this in the forum so Kabam has to react and give compensation. Like I said this is called Season tanking.

    I'm going to need some cliff notes to be honest. I don't have the time to be able to read a post that takes up 1/3 of a forum page, nothing personal. I do appreciate the conversation/argument though. But please, a couple paragraphs responses at most if you don't mind.
    My post will enlighten you because your pride will be undermined by the fact that I agree with you in some points. At the same time I wanted to end this annoying discussion so I gave you the big and friendly explanation.
    I had a friend who blew the whistle on F&G a few seasons ago when they were abusing the force close no ab loss. He didn't wanna participate or be in an alliance who took advantage the same as you. Unfortunately it ended up getting him pretty much black listed from masters.

    They also kicked him on the last war after it started. (He still got season rewards after a ticket to kabam)

    Just be careful
    Yeah my alliance likes me and I know many masters Officers and leaders that like me and they don't care. If they blacklist me from masters I don't really care, I will just retire.

    My alliance Nefti will be most probably #1 this season again. For us the season was not unfair because we matched the big alliances in the first half and won everything anyway. I did this post because I don't want to see Top 20/P1 Alliances on Podium because of 4th war.

    I also wouldnt care about us not beeing #1 as long as the #1 alliance reached it fair and square. My post was never about my alliance because we are going to get #1 rewards anyway. Iam just always angry about screwed up seasons so I posted it😂
    Also do you know what happened with rank 1 last time they gave tier up rewards? I vaguely remember they gave rank 1 some extra stuff too but I'm honestly not sure
    We will see :)
    Fingers crossed its double rank 1 rewards 😉 keep me in mind though, I am genuily curious if you remember about this post when rewards come out
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