Can Kingpin purify passive disorient?

I am using 5 star Kingpin sig 40 in map 6 ( no synergy).
The nodes aee having that blocking a defender attack cause passive disorient for 10 sec.
I brought Kingpin thinking that it can purify it but it didn't.

Just curious and for future reference, wanted to confirm if Kingpin can purify passive debuffs?

Comments

Average_Desi

There is no such thing as passive debuffs. He can purify debuffs. That's it. Passives cannot be purified

VanillaCoke

Champions cannot purify passives, only debuffs

Amanda_Cruze

What about nodes which inflict disorient upon blocking? Can that disorient be purified by Kingpin?

Furrymoosen

If it is a debuff, yes, but not if it is a passive.

Amanda_Cruze

And what if I bring Kingpin with full synergy? Still passive wont be purified?

Gamer

Yes passive’s can’t.

Herbal_Taxman

No, he is unable to purify passives regardless of synergies.

Amanda_Cruze

Thank you guys. Appreciate it

Lokx

No champ in game can purify passive. Similarly no champs in game can nullify, fate-seal or stagger passives. Passives can only be prevented through immunities. So no matter how strong someones purify is, passives are never effected by it.

Ortoun

Several tech champs can remove passive prowess. Nimrod, Viv, and Ironheart at least, maybe more. Didn’t feel like checking every single one.

Furrymoosen

That isn't the conversation. That's removing passives, not purifying them.

Magrailothos

As mentioned, no-one can Purify passive disorients.

However, two other options exist, especially for those Disorient nodes you mention:

Attuma inverts the Ability Accuracy Reduction of Disorient: they effectively make him better, not worse. He's really good for dealing with Disorient/Concussion nodes.

Apocalypse very quickly develops immunity to Disorient. I think he's still the only champion who has Disorient immunity.

BEA5T_FURY

Kingpin won't purify passives no one can if it's a debuff only then can he purify it unless his aa is lowered passively like in case of while fighting apoc where his purify is rendered useless

Ortoun

It's a direct response to saying no champs can nullify passives, and while it's technically a removal, it's functionally the same thing, maybe read the quote that was replied to.

Archit_1812

Buff immune champions can still gain passive buff effects.

captain_rogers

It is just passive effects. Not passive buff effects

tnair2015

Nick Fury ?

Average_Desi

He removes all effects. He can't purify

Squidopus

Well might as well try to clear things up.

In this game, a passive is explicitly defined as something that is neither a buff nor a debuff. Thus, referring to something as a “passive buff” or a “passive debuff” is an oxymoron; it doesn’t exist in MCOC terminology, and you won’t find such wording used anywhere except some scant examples from before Kabam ironed out their wording.

Because these three things are completely distinct categories with no overlap, abilities that are directly stated to only interact with one of these won’t interact with the other. Purify removes debuffs, it cannot remove passives because passives are not debuffs. Nullify removes buffs, but again can’t remove passives because those aren’t buffs. Buff immunity and debuff immunity prevent buffs and debuffs, not passives. You get the point. Most abilities will clarify whether a given effect is a buff/debuff or a passive, but if it doesn’t you can still tell when the effect shows up on the HUD. Buffs and debuffs have a solid border around their icon (usually white or a lighter version of the icon’s color), whereas passives are a solid circle with no distinct border at all.

Example. Red Skull has armor up buffs and a (parry) stun debuff. Those icons have a noticeably solid white border around them. He also has a shock passive and an auto-block passive, which are a fully solid color with no distinct border.

And a final note, yes there are passive versions of buffs/debuffs. Angela gains fury buffs while Hulk gains fury passives. Storm inflicts shock debuffs while Beta Ray Bill inflicts shock passives. While the passive version may have the same functionality, they’re still passives and that means they interact differently as described above. For example, Silver Surfer reduces the potency of shock debuffs by -100%. As such, he’d take reduced damage from Storm’s shock debuffs, but BRB’s shock passives would still do the same damage as normal.

Lokx

Nullify isn’t the same as removing. You are correct i did overlook champs that can remove passive prowess but it’s not the same as nullify.

They’re also technically removing the effect. It’s different from nullify and all that.

Lokx

Passive and buffs are not the same. Passive/Buffs/Debuffs are all classified as effects. They can be negative effects or positive effects.

If a champ is buff immune it doesn’t mean they are immune to an effect. Just the effect when classified as a buff.

phillgreen

None of this is confusing at all.

I have a simpler version.

No but yes sometimes unless you can't.

Villain_87

They cant purify passive debuffs thats why they are called passive