End game players doing really care about acension dust anymore
I do, and if there is ascend2, I will care more. Again, what can be exciting thing in the next 2-3 months for players with 30-40 7r3? You all agree 7r4 wouldn’t be that fast, then more 7r3?
End game players doing really care about acension dust anymore
I do, and if there is ascend2, I will care more. Again, what can be exciting thing in the next 2-3 months for players with 30-40 7r3? You all agree 7r4 wouldn’t be that fast, then more 7r3?
I honestly don’t know and I’m one of them.
Aside from you, why would someone with 30+ 7R3 want a 6R5a+a? Just so they can keep using their 6-star CGR against the 2025 version of Onslaught and Serpent and Bullseye?
And on the flip side, if someone now has 6R5a+a CGR, why would they spend any money to try to get 2025’s Cosmic? Kabam would lose money, as most players would have less incentive to spend money to get new champions and rank them up (whales don’t need to spend anything to rank and ascend 6-stars. Heck, i’m not a whale at all and I constantly have 6-star related stuff just expiring).
End game players doing really care about acension dust anymore
I do, and if there is ascend2, I will care more. Again, what can be exciting thing in the next 2-3 months for players with 30-40 7r3? You all agree 7r4 wouldn’t be that fast, then more 7r3?
I honestly don’t know and I’m one of them.
It isn't a question of who cares and who doesn't, who thinks it is a good idea and who doesn't. What matters is why ascension even exists. It does not exist to allow lower rarity champs to "keep up" with higher ones. Ascension was added to the game to mitigate the issues associated with rarity jumps. When a new rarity is added to the game, there's a transition period where the higher rarity eclipses the lower one. In previous rarity introductions this created some issues that the devs tried to address in different ways, each with significant issues associated with them. When 5* champs were introduced, 5* rarity significantly overlapped 4* rarity. This allowed for a more gentle transition, but it also made 5* rarity very "short" in terms of adding additional life to the progression ladder. 6* champs did not overlap as much, but the short overlap created other issues involving rank up resources and resource management relative to power level.
With 7* champs Kabam decided to use ascension to moderate the overlap between rarities, so that the transition from 6* to 7* was as gentle as it was with 5* champs, but with more control over how that affected roster progression. Ascension is itself imperfect, but it was never intended to allow 6* champs to ascend, ascend again, and keep ascending to try to catch up with 7* champs. They were not intended to forestall the transition from 6* to 7* indefinitely, they were intended to do that for one jump, and that's it.
I would be extremely surprised to see more ascension levels for 6* champs. It would massively erode the value of 7* champs. And for every single person that claims it would not, answer this: why ask for Ascension+2 at all? If it has no value, it is pointless. If it does have value, it is taking that value from 7* rarity champs. Ascension+2 would only exist to be a cheaper and easier way to acquire combat power levels comparable to 7* rarity champs at higher ranks. That's not supposed to be a thing that happens in general. unless you want to see 8* champs added to the game a few years ahead of schedule.
To put it another way: every problem you think exists because 6* champs cannot be ascended more than once is not a bug, it is a feature. It is deliberate, and every issue every player who wishes there was additional ascension levels thinks that would solve is an issue the devs want you to have, because that's why rarities exist in the first place. To pose that problem, and require you to fix it by traditional roster growth. If you want 7* R4s, you get 7* R4s. You don't ascend 6* R5s to that level, and you don't ascend 6* R5s to something close but not quite and claim that since it is not exactly the same, its fine. They fact you think it is fine is what makes it not fine.
End game players doing really care about acension dust anymore
I do, and if there is ascend2, I will care more. Again, what can be exciting thing in the next 2-3 months for players with 30-40 7r3? You all agree 7r4 wouldn’t be that fast, then more 7r3?
I honestly don’t know and I’m one of them.
What is exciting about a 2nd level ascension? Pop a 20% boost and you're already there.
There has to be something to “chase” at this year’s banquet.
Why do people think it’s not r4 materials? Because it fully expect r4 materials to be sold by 4th of July and for them to be a very very expensive offers for r4 materials somewhere between after first couple months of 2025.
There has to be something to “chase” at this year’s banquet.
Why do people think it’s not r4 materials? Because it fully expect r4 materials to be sold by 4th of July and for them to be a very very expensive offers for r4 materials somewhere between after first couple months of 2025.
No one is saying R4 mats aren't coming. We're saying full R4s probably aren't coming and most likely, 7* AGs will be available.
There has to be something to “chase” at this year’s banquet.
Why do people think it’s not r4 materials? Because it fully expect r4 materials to be sold by 4th of July and for them to be a very very expensive offers for r4 materials somewhere between after first couple months of 2025.
No one is saying R4 mats aren't coming. We're saying full R4s probably aren't coming and most likely, 7* AGs will be available.
After the cyber weekend, endgame players have 30-40 7R3, they nearly upgraded all the top-tier champions, you may run into all-7R3 match in battleground. At this point, almost everyone thinks 7R4 is coming, it may start to appear in the banquet event, a lot of people will have their first 7R4 in early next year. Based on what we've seen in the last couple years, cadence of a new rank is 18 months, so it's impossible for players to get many 7R4 in the next 6 months, what can make them feel good besides having more and more second-tier 7R3? Ascend-2 is the answer!
Because today only handful 6-star champions are still useful for endgame players (a probably a dozen), and I do agree bringing those champions into 7-star pool may break the game again, so what Kabam can do is adding tier-3 primordial dust into the game and enabling ascend-2 for 6-start, people can be excited again by having 6R7 hulkling, CGR....
I currently have 30 7-star rank 3 champions. I depend exclusively on luck to get the champions that are missing and that I would like to rank up. Kabam needs to make decisions with the community as a whole in mind. For example, I personally think most of the new champions are completely useless. If the idea is to make the titan interesting, there was no shortage of options: Galan, Hulkling, Kate Bishop, CGR, Hercules, Stealth Spider, Kingpin, Nick Fury, Valkyrie, Kitty Pryde, Archangel, Ghost, FAM, Red Guardian, Human Torch, Absorbing Man, Doctor Doom, Tigra... Most people loved it, they want the new champions, and they are useful to them. The options for average champions were running out, and they would have had to start adding these champions to the titan. Now, they've found a way to delay it even further or, perhaps, sell these champions. The thing is, people who don't play competitively haven't realized yet that nowadays, having good 7-star champions makes a much bigger difference than having many rank 3 champions. Ok, but what does that have to do with the topic? If you hold on to 7-star rank 3 champions, you need to sell something else to those who actually spend money, because eventually, the champions run out. Not every new champion is relevant or interesting. The release of these strong champions in 7-star versions will likely extend the lifespan of 7-star rank 3 champions. I definitely don’t want 7-star rank 4 champions in the next 6 months, but I also don’t want to reach December 2025 with 60 7-star rank 3 champions and 0 7-star rank 4 champions. The fact is that whether it’s in 3 months, 6 months, or 1 year, there will be people who think it’s too soon because they can’t keep up with the pace of the game. Good luck to Kabam, who needs to find a balance for that.
After the cyber weekend, endgame players have 30-40 7R3, they nearly upgraded all the top-tier champions, you may run into all-7R3 match in battleground. At this point, almost everyone thinks 7R4 is coming, it may start to appear in the banquet event, a lot of people will have their first 7R4 in early next year. Based on what we've seen in the last couple years, cadence of a new rank is 18 months, so it's impossible for players to get many 7R4 in the next 6 months, what can make them feel good besides having more and more second-tier 7R3? Ascend-2 is the answer!
Because today only handful 6-star champions are still useful for endgame players (a probably a dozen), and I do agree bringing those champions into 7-star pool may break the game again, so what Kabam can do is adding tier-3 primordial dust into the game and enabling ascend-2 for 6-start, people can be excited again by having 6R7 hulkling, CGR....
I currently have 30 7-star rank 3 champions. I depend exclusively on luck to get the champions that are missing and that I would like to rank up. Kabam needs to make decisions with the community as a whole in mind. For example, I personally think most of the new champions are completely useless. If the idea is to make the titan interesting, there was no shortage of options: Galan, Hulkling, Kate Bishop, CGR, Hercules, Stealth Spider, Kingpin, Nick Fury, Valkyrie, Kitty Pryde, Archangel, Ghost, FAM, Red Guardian, Human Torch, Absorbing Man, Doctor Doom, Tigra... Most people loved it, they want the new champions, and they are useful to them. The options for average champions were running out, and they would have had to start adding these champions to the titan. Now, they've found a way to delay it even further or, perhaps, sell these champions. The thing is, people who don't play competitively haven't realized yet that nowadays, having good 7-star champions makes a much bigger difference than having many rank 3 champions. Ok, but what does that have to do with the topic? If you hold on to 7-star rank 3 champions, you need to sell something else to those who actually spend money, because eventually, the champions run out. Not every new champion is relevant or interesting. The release of these strong champions in 7-star versions will likely extend the lifespan of 7-star rank 3 champions. I definitely don’t want 7-star rank 4 champions in the next 6 months, but I also don’t want to reach December 2025 with 60 7-star rank 3 champions and 0 7-star rank 4 champions. The fact is that whether it’s in 3 months, 6 months, or 1 year, there will be people who think it’s too soon because they can’t keep up with the pace of the game. Good luck to Kabam, who needs to find a balance for that.
Don’t worry you get a r4 before 2025 banguet that’s for sure
End game players doing really care about acension dust anymore
I do, and if there is ascend2, I will care more. Again, what can be exciting thing in the next 2-3 months for players with 30-40 7r3? You all agree 7r4 wouldn’t be that fast, then more 7r3?
I honestly don’t know and I’m one of them.
What is exciting about a 2nd level ascension? Pop a 20% boost and you're already there.
Then what is the point of having 7r4? 20% boost can do the work too. It’s not me who created the idea, it is Kabam, otherwise there is no point for them to put a “1” within the little icon.
Not being end game player by any means, but I've been part of the game since year 1. Alot has happened but I think that the introduction of 5* was the most successful one. Why? Checking how many maxed rank champs i have per category. My playtime/spending habit has been relatively consistent, and I have most of the champs available except newest ones. You see from the pics that 5* maxed ranks far outweigh any other rarity. I basically stopped r5 6* before I even could (most are from gems). So please keep 8* out of the game
End game players doing really care about acension dust anymore
I do, and if there is ascend2, I will care more. Again, what can be exciting thing in the next 2-3 months for players with 30-40 7r3? You all agree 7r4 wouldn’t be that fast, then more 7r3?
I honestly don’t know and I’m one of them.
What is exciting about a 2nd level ascension? Pop a 20% boost and you're already there.
Then what is the point of having 7r4? 20% boost can do the work too. It’s not me who created the idea, it is Kabam, otherwise there is no point for them to put a “1” within the little icon.
You dont have 34 r3. Otherwise you would not talk like that lol. You didn't understand the purpose of ascension and game progression
End game players doing really care about acension dust anymore
I do, and if there is ascend2, I will care more. Again, what can be exciting thing in the next 2-3 months for players with 30-40 7r3? You all agree 7r4 wouldn’t be that fast, then more 7r3?
I honestly don’t know and I’m one of them.
What is exciting about a 2nd level ascension? Pop a 20% boost and you're already there.
Then what is the point of having 7r4? 20% boost can do the work too. It’s not me who created the idea, it is Kabam, otherwise there is no point for them to put a “1” within the little icon.
You dont have 34 r3. Otherwise you would not talk like that lol. You didn't understand the purpose of ascension and game progression
You can believe whatever you want to believe, even if I show you my screenshots you can still say I stole it from someone else right? Check my posts you will realize I understand the game much better than most of you
End game players doing really care about acension dust anymore
I do, and if there is ascend2, I will care more. Again, what can be exciting thing in the next 2-3 months for players with 30-40 7r3? You all agree 7r4 wouldn’t be that fast, then more 7r3?
I honestly don’t know and I’m one of them.
What is exciting about a 2nd level ascension? Pop a 20% boost and you're already there.
Then what is the point of having 7r4? 20% boost can do the work too. It’s not me who created the idea, it is Kabam, otherwise there is no point for them to put a “1” within the little icon.
You dont have 34 r3. Otherwise you would not talk like that lol. You didn't understand the purpose of ascension and game progression
You can believe whatever you want to believe, even if I show you my screenshots you can still say I stole it from someone else right? Check my posts you will realize I understand the game much better than most of you
I have 26 can do 5 more r3. But I don’t feel the need of a r4 yet there no contest in the game design for r4.
I understand where you are coming from, 6r6s are only somehwat viable currently in war for those weird actic attacker/defenders that arent available as a 7* yet. But honestly, 6* are not going to be viable for most content next year. It imo was just a way to keep the value of the 6* viable in the short term as folks built up their 7* rosters.
I understand where you are coming from, 6r6s are only somehwat viable currently in war for those weird actic attacker/defenders that arent available as a 7* yet. But honestly, 6* are not going to be viable for most content next year. It imo was just a way to keep the value of the 6* viable in the short term as folks built up their 7* rosters.
I mean that's exactly what kabam stated when they introduced ascension. Only viable in the short term until 7* reached higher potentials.
I understand where you are coming from, 6r6s are only somehwat viable currently in war for those weird actic attacker/defenders that arent available as a 7* yet. But honestly, 6* are not going to be viable for most content next year. It imo was just a way to keep the value of the 6* viable in the short term as folks built up their 7* rosters.
I mean that's exactly what kabam stated when they introduced ascension. Only viable in the short term until 7* reached higher potentials.
i know lol. I agree with it. Ascension has served its purpose.
I understand where you are coming from, 6r6s are only somehwat viable currently in war for those weird actic attacker/defenders that arent available as a 7* yet. But honestly, 6* are not going to be viable for most content next year. It imo was just a way to keep the value of the 6* viable in the short term as folks built up their 7* rosters.
I mean that's exactly what kabam stated when they introduced ascension. Only viable in the short term until 7* reached higher potentials.
i know lol. I agree with it. Ascension has served its purpose.
I get it though I don't really wanna let go of my maxed and ascended doom kingpin or cgr either. But eventually I'll have to. At least until they make them as 7*. Someday. Hopefully.
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Again, what can be exciting thing in the next 2-3 months for players with 30-40 7r3? You all agree 7r4 wouldn’t be that fast, then more 7r3?
I honestly don’t know and I’m one of them.
And on the flip side, if someone now has 6R5a+a CGR, why would they spend any money to try to get 2025’s Cosmic? Kabam would lose money, as most players would have less incentive to spend money to get new champions and rank them up (whales don’t need to spend anything to rank and ascend 6-stars. Heck, i’m not a whale at all and I constantly have 6-star related stuff just expiring).
With 7* champs Kabam decided to use ascension to moderate the overlap between rarities, so that the transition from 6* to 7* was as gentle as it was with 5* champs, but with more control over how that affected roster progression. Ascension is itself imperfect, but it was never intended to allow 6* champs to ascend, ascend again, and keep ascending to try to catch up with 7* champs. They were not intended to forestall the transition from 6* to 7* indefinitely, they were intended to do that for one jump, and that's it.
I would be extremely surprised to see more ascension levels for 6* champs. It would massively erode the value of 7* champs. And for every single person that claims it would not, answer this: why ask for Ascension+2 at all? If it has no value, it is pointless. If it does have value, it is taking that value from 7* rarity champs. Ascension+2 would only exist to be a cheaper and easier way to acquire combat power levels comparable to 7* rarity champs at higher ranks. That's not supposed to be a thing that happens in general. unless you want to see 8* champs added to the game a few years ahead of schedule.
To put it another way: every problem you think exists because 6* champs cannot be ascended more than once is not a bug, it is a feature. It is deliberate, and every issue every player who wishes there was additional ascension levels thinks that would solve is an issue the devs want you to have, because that's why rarities exist in the first place. To pose that problem, and require you to fix it by traditional roster growth. If you want 7* R4s, you get 7* R4s. You don't ascend 6* R5s to that level, and you don't ascend 6* R5s to something close but not quite and claim that since it is not exactly the same, its fine. They fact you think it is fine is what makes it not fine.
Why do people think it’s not r4 materials? Because it fully expect r4 materials to be sold by 4th of July and for them to be a very very expensive offers for r4 materials somewhere between after first couple months of 2025.
Maybe for #1-10 spenders get full r4 who knows.
I depend exclusively on luck to get the champions that are missing and that I would like to rank up.
Kabam needs to make decisions with the community as a whole in mind.
For example, I personally think most of the new champions are completely useless. If the idea is to make the titan interesting, there was no shortage of options: Galan, Hulkling, Kate Bishop, CGR, Hercules, Stealth Spider, Kingpin, Nick Fury, Valkyrie, Kitty Pryde, Archangel, Ghost, FAM, Red Guardian, Human Torch, Absorbing Man, Doctor Doom, Tigra...
Most people loved it, they want the new champions, and they are useful to them.
The options for average champions were running out, and they would have had to start adding these champions to the titan. Now, they've found a way to delay it even further or, perhaps, sell these champions.
The thing is, people who don't play competitively haven't realized yet that nowadays, having good 7-star champions makes a much bigger difference than having many rank 3 champions.
Ok, but what does that have to do with the topic?
If you hold on to 7-star rank 3 champions, you need to sell something else to those who actually spend money, because eventually, the champions run out. Not every new champion is relevant or interesting.
The release of these strong champions in 7-star versions will likely extend the lifespan of 7-star rank 3 champions.
I definitely don’t want 7-star rank 4 champions in the next 6 months, but I also don’t want to reach December 2025 with 60 7-star rank 3 champions and 0 7-star rank 4 champions.
The fact is that whether it’s in 3 months, 6 months, or 1 year, there will be people who think it’s too soon because they can’t keep up with the pace of the game. Good luck to Kabam, who needs to find a balance for that.
I gave my point because I’m one of those who has 30+ 7r3, you guys are telling me I’m wrong because you THINK people with 30+ 7r3 won’t be like me.
It’s not me who created the idea, it is Kabam, otherwise there is no point for them to put a “1” within the little icon.
Why? Checking how many maxed rank champs i have per category.
My playtime/spending habit has been relatively consistent, and I have most of the champs available except newest ones.
You see from the pics that 5* maxed ranks far outweigh any other rarity. I basically stopped r5 6* before I even could (most are from gems).
So please keep 8* out of the game