Sentry Buff - The Fury Passive Problem

HassamaMamaHassamaMama Member Posts: 273 ★★★
So I like the skeleton here. I think we have the potential to have an awesome buff - utility is amazing in my opinion. However, there are two things that are holding it back at this time:

1. Fury Passives. There needs to be a way to refresh them - in his base kit, there’s a max cap of 40 Furies. That’s awesome (+400% attack, roughly). However, you can only reach 20 passives at most, and only for a few seconds, IF you can throw another sp2 quickly enough. The solution to this could be either refresh with heavies (a lil too OP, lol) or special activation. That way, the build-up is still required when rotating to the next form, but it remains instead of disappearing, which right now is gimping the damage.

2. Form switching. When you rotate out of Brilliant Might, none of your attacks are Empowered, which means no additional energy burst damage on your hits. Now, if the Fury refresh I mentioned above existed, that’d be fine - you’d still be able to benefit from your ramp due to raw damage from your furies. However, because it’s essentially capped at 10 Furies, which then goes away, you end up doing barely any damage for the ramp pay-off. Easy way to fix this: once at 10 Reality Warps, after reaching Brilliant Might, ALL attacks are Empowered for the remainder of the fight.

Again, I want to stress I really do like this buff - just the constant cycle of gaining but then losing damage, and never actually hitting the cap, is really holding this guy back.

If someone knows a way to get up to the 40 Fury passives, please educate me!! I’m just not seeing it as feasible right now.

Comments

  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 846 ★★★★
    I agree with these observations. The buff feels very good, not great, and for me it’s mostly about the fixed nature of the forms rotation.

    I assume the 40 furies are only achievable in Incursions?
  • HassamaMamaHassamaMama Member Posts: 273 ★★★

    The furies are designed to only be achievable with non personal buffs and they're scaled with that in mind. If you could hit the max cap with just him then they'd nerf the potency of the furies down for sure

    Gotcha. I’d be fine with a reduction in potency for that trade-off (although for a long-form content focused kit, it shouldn’t be reduced). However, essentially making a kit solely for Incursions and hyper-specific node sets is a bit silly lol
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,632 ★★★★

    The furies are designed to only be achievable with non personal buffs and they're scaled with that in mind. If you could hit the max cap with just him then they'd nerf the potency of the furies down for sure

    Gotcha. I’d be fine with a reduction in potency for that trade-off (although for a long-form content focused kit, it shouldn’t be reduced). However, essentially making a kit solely for Incursions and hyper-specific node sets is a bit silly lol
    It's not solely for those things, you just gain a bonus for it. The point is that like other science champions he can control the buffs he has by converting them to passives and this is just a way to let him convert node buffs that may cause him more issues with certain defenders by converting them to his ramp. I don't see how it's any different from characters like ebony maw who become busted with guaranteed crit nodes
  • HassamaMamaHassamaMama Member Posts: 273 ★★★

    The furies are designed to only be achievable with non personal buffs and they're scaled with that in mind. If you could hit the max cap with just him then they'd nerf the potency of the furies down for sure

    Gotcha. I’d be fine with a reduction in potency for that trade-off (although for a long-form content focused kit, it shouldn’t be reduced). However, essentially making a kit solely for Incursions and hyper-specific node sets is a bit silly lol
    It's not solely for those things, you just gain a bonus for it. The point is that like other science champions he can control the buffs he has by converting them to passives and this is just a way to let him convert node buffs that may cause him more issues with certain defenders by converting them to his ramp. I don't see how it's any different from characters like ebony maw who become busted with guaranteed crit nodes
    Those are two very different situations lol - I still think a way to refresh the heavies so they can stack higher than 10 everywhere other than Incursions would make him loads better for the other long-form content he’s supposed to be designed for.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,632 ★★★★

    The furies are designed to only be achievable with non personal buffs and they're scaled with that in mind. If you could hit the max cap with just him then they'd nerf the potency of the furies down for sure

    Gotcha. I’d be fine with a reduction in potency for that trade-off (although for a long-form content focused kit, it shouldn’t be reduced). However, essentially making a kit solely for Incursions and hyper-specific node sets is a bit silly lol
    It's not solely for those things, you just gain a bonus for it. The point is that like other science champions he can control the buffs he has by converting them to passives and this is just a way to let him convert node buffs that may cause him more issues with certain defenders by converting them to his ramp. I don't see how it's any different from characters like ebony maw who become busted with guaranteed crit nodes
    Those are two very different situations lol - I still think a way to refresh the heavies so they can stack higher than 10 everywhere other than Incursions would make him loads better for the other long-form content he’s supposed to be designed for.
    You're acting like the furies are the only thing that let him be relevant for long form content lmao. The furies aren't the core of his damage, that's his reality warps and his debuff damage. The furies aren't supposed to stack beyond extreme circumstances or when fighting opponents that place buffs on you which is becoming more and more common.
  • Sceptilemaniac2Sceptilemaniac2 Member Posts: 376 ★★★
    That is way too overpowered.
    I think, however, refreshing the fury buffs when you finish a ramp and only when you finish a ramp and enter base form wherein none of the attacks are empowered could be a very nice addition.
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