If they flood the game with lower stars and mats the player complains about bad rewards. If they take them away the player complains about how much those lower rewards mean.... 🤦
What a ridiculous strawman. When was the last time 5* shards were the main reward focus of end game content? And even those few relic shards being there are completely different from opting those rewards in a store.
It's not the same people making these complaints
Really? Cause most people seem to claim being super active and this and that, and all of the sudden thwy can't get certain things. People wanted the super event back?.. guess what the 22 hr event had a lot of the things people are asking for right now. Its all a trade off, you get both sides of the coin in the forums. People saying how useless the relic rewards are, and now people who want them from the BG store. 5*s plenty of them on other farmsble difficulties. Lower rank up materials? Extremely cheap in glory store, Everything is spread out if you know how to manage your resources, farm and be truly active. TRULY ACTIVE doesn't mean spending all day on global and doing just arena. I love your question of the 5* shards as reward in end game content. When was the last time that 4* or 5* and their sig stones mattered to end game players? And you call my response ridiculous strawman? Really?
If they flood the game with lower stars and mats the player complains about bad rewards. If they take them away the player complains about how much those lower rewards mean.... 🤦
What a ridiculous strawman. When was the last time 5* shards were the main reward focus of end game content? And even those few relic shards being there are completely different from opting those rewards in a store.
It's not the same people making these complaints
Really? Cause most people seem to claim being super active and this and that, and all of the sudden thwy can't get certain things. People wanted the super event back?.. guess what the 22 hr event had a lot of the things people are asking for right now. Its all a trade off, you get both sides of the coin in the forums. People saying how useless the relic rewards are, and now people who want them from the BG store. 5*s plenty of them on other farmsble difficulties. Lower rank up materials? Extremely cheap in glory store, Everything is spread out if you know how to manage your resources, farm and be truly active. TRULY ACTIVE doesn't mean spending all day on global and doing just arena. I love your question of the 5* shards as reward in end game content. When was the last time that 4* or 5* and their sig stones mattered to end game players? And you call my response ridiculous strawman? Really?
Yes . Because it's not the same people complaining about relic rewards and then going and buying it from the BG store.
There are different types of players. I value 4* sig stones because I want to max out all my 4* champs. No. I don't need it. But that's my style. Same goes for the 5* sig stones from the BG store. I've not once gotten a 5* sig stones from any endgame content for years. So how the hell do I complain about it?
If they flood the game with lower stars and mats the player complains about bad rewards. If they take them away the player complains about how much those lower rewards mean.... 🤦
What a ridiculous strawman. When was the last time 5* shards were the main reward focus of end game content? And even those few relic shards being there are completely different from opting those rewards in a store.
It's not the same people making these complaints
Really? Cause most people seem to claim being super active and this and that, and all of the sudden thwy can't get certain things. People wanted the super event back?.. guess what the 22 hr event had a lot of the things people are asking for right now. Its all a trade off, you get both sides of the coin in the forums. People saying how useless the relic rewards are, and now people who want them from the BG store. 5*s plenty of them on other farmsble difficulties. Lower rank up materials? Extremely cheap in glory store, Everything is spread out if you know how to manage your resources, farm and be truly active. TRULY ACTIVE doesn't mean spending all day on global and doing just arena. I love your question of the 5* shards as reward in end game content. When was the last time that 4* or 5* and their sig stones mattered to end game players? And you call my response ridiculous strawman? Really?
Yes . Because it's not the same people complaining about relic rewards and then going and buying it from the BG store.
There are different types of players. I value 4* sig stones because I want to max out all my 4* champs. No. I don't need it. But that's my style. Same goes for the 5* sig stones from the BG store. I've not once gotten a 5* sig stones from any endgame content for years. So how the hell do I complain about it?
Who said end game content anyway?.. Everything that people are complaining about is spread out in every piece of content. They want it so much well... They are going to have to do it I mean SQ, EQ all that stuff is outdated...the rewards are horrible, then people complain about being taken away from BG store?.. Funniest fact, 4* and 5* sig stones were available for free in the 22hr event; but everyone wanted a much better rewarding Super event, they make BG store more rewarding and now people want all those small items 🤣. Also did I say You complained by name? Did I single you out?... Not sure where the "How do I complain about it" comes from. This whole thread is a massive complaint over items that are honestly not worth getting with BG currency.
As much as you are pushing people into progression, removing these items (without context of where they will re-appear in-game) is a MASSIVE leap into regression and even when it's finally announced where they will come back in-game, every single one of us knows that it will require more time and effort to obtain, they will not be available in anywhere near the same quantity they were and comparatively will be ludicrously more expensive!!!
I'm actually someone that uses the lower progression items and wouldn't mind seeing them either reappear in the BG store or reappear elsewhere. However, this is an interesting perspective. What you're saying is if the devs update a store, and the intent is to shift items from one place to another place over time, if they *don't* explicitly tell you all their plans for how everything will eventually shake out, something they generally cannot do, the changes will be looked upon negatively. You're making the case for the devs never updating stores, because the only way they can do it without making "everyone" unhappy is impossible.
Also, I'm not sure who every single one of you is, but I don't know that everything will take more time and effort to obtain. Historically, that actually hasn't been the case for lower progression items. Over time, they have generally become much easier to get, even as they shift around. I have no idea how anyone could get that idea from a proper recollection of the facts. Recent case in point: https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/381965/another-weird-way-to-get-gold-and-a-literally-broken-way-to-get-t4b. But also, that's generally been the case for lower catalysts. There was once a similar fear of lower rarity champion crystals suffering a similar fate, where higher progression players would simply stop getting them or have to pay for them, but that hasn't generally been true either.
What I imagine is it will be an apothecary type reform: Remove the abundance of resource and replace with a mere fraction of what we were getting, for example - a daily quest where we get one 6* sig stone crystal for completion and one generic for exploration with the chance of getting a +5 generic.
The apothecary is a very special case, and if that's where your angst comes from, that's understandable but misplaced. Revives were never meant to be infinitely farmable as they were. The apothecary was added to provide a way to do so in a limited fashion when they removed the easy farms. That was not the devs shifting revive farming from one place to another. That was the devs removing a borderline exploit from the game and replacing it with a compromise opportunity. That has nothing to do with the game team balancing in-game stores, all of which provide resource opportunities that are actually intended to be there at all in the first place.
@DNA3000 appreciate your healthy debate response and so as not to get into another essay and respond to one of your points.
My, personal, angst against this decision is the choice being taken away for the community to be able spend their currencies on things that make the game what it is for them personally...I guess, for me, that's it in a nutshell - the choice being taken away.
In saying that though, a topic of reason that has been in the back of my mind (DISCLAIMER: To the community, I have very little knowledge on this subject so if I get it wrong, it's just a suggestion...) is that someone has to code and program all of this so I get from that angle, it could be quite labour intensive and complicated to have to code and program all progression levels with all the resources at all the different quantities for all the different costs. Furthermore, there has to be a cut off point to make way for future progression levels, which the ongoing reduction in cost/increase in quantity curve for higher progressions just doesn't accommodate. *TIN FOIL HAT MOMENT* the re-structure of the store and it's contents + the increase summoner level to 70 and introduction of the refined XP could be pointing to the introduction of the next progression level.
Hello. I haven't responded because I don't have much to add. The post announcing the changes specifies the intent, that the BG store is intended to become a more premium offering.
What I will add is that we can't just keep adding more things to the store as we add more progressions. The store is already too big. Imagine 10 years from now with 8 more progressions and dozens of new catalysts. It's just not sustainable to keep adding without ever removing anything. Having said that, we do want to make some of this stuff available elsewhere in a more sustainable way. Likely the Trader's Outpost will be the spot.
To your comment about "near-universal disapproval" I'm sorry but that's just disconnected from reality. We have the telemetry and the VAST majority of Paragon and Valiant players never bought the stuff we removed. That's what led to the decision to remove it. However I do acknowledge this change has impacted a small number of Summoners who feel very strongly about it, and as a result we are accelerating our plans to replace the relevant sources.
Hello. I haven't responded because I don't have much to add. The post announcing the changes specifies the intent, that the BG store is intended to become a more premium offering.
What I will add is that we can't just keep adding more things to the store as we add more progressions. The store is already too big. Imagine 10 years from now with 8 more progressions and dozens of new catalysts. It's just not sustainable to keep adding without ever removing anything. Having said that, we do want to make some of this stuff available elsewhere in a more sustainable way. Likely the Trader's Outpost will be the spot.
To your comment about "near-universal disapproval" I'm sorry but that's just disconnected from reality. We have the telemetry and the VAST majority of Paragon and Valiant players never bought the stuff we removed. That's what led to the decision to remove it. However I do acknowledge this change has impacted a small number of Summoners who feel very strongly about it, and as a result we are accelerating our plans to replace the relevant sources.
Hi Kabam Crashed
Thank you for responding directly to the concerns raised. While your explanation offers some clarity, I still feel there are several key issues that need addressing regarding the removal of these items from the Battlegrounds Store and their proposed relocation to the Trader’s Outpost.
1. The Trader’s Outpost Limits Player Freedom If the removed items are moved to the Trader’s Outpost, players will be forced to choose between progression-based items and lower-tier resources necessary for ranking up champions. For example, taking the current Mysterium side quest as a model, players can earn around 22,500 Mysterium per week, while most bundles for Paragon players cost 6,000–7,000 Mysterium each. This means players can only afford around three bundles weekly, forcing them to decide between advancing their roster or replenishing these essential lower-tier items.
This trade-off is exacerbated by the fact that the Battlegrounds Store offered effectively limitless purchases of these resources (based on earned chips), whereas the Trader’s Outpost imposes a strict cap via weekly Mysterium rewards. If these resources are shifted to the Trader’s Outpost, will Mysterium rewards increase to accommodate this added strain on players?
2. The Incentive to Push Progression Levels Recent events, particularly the 10x10 drop, heavily incentivized players to push their progression levels to Thronebreaker and Paragon. Thronebreaker players received a free 7-star champion Isophyne along with 10 free 6-stars, while Paragon players were rewarded with 10 free 7-stars. However, this same group of incentivized players is now disproportionately affected by the removal of items from the Battlegrounds Store.
Players who pushed progression levels to access these rewards are now penalized by having essential lower-tier resources stripped away. This creates a scenario where progression is being encouraged, only for those same players to lose access to tools needed to build their rosters effectively. (Even if it’s just for a time.)
3. Glory Costs and Incremental Pricing Currently, advanced players must now either overspend Glory or use Units to obtain these lower-tier resources. In the Glory Store, incremental pricing makes buying the maximum weekly limit of Tier 4 Class Catalysts cost over 1,000 Glory—a significant portion of the 3,500 Glory most alliances earn weekly.
These catalysts remain highly relevant for ranking up 6-star champions from Rank 1 to 2 and Rank 2 to 3, which makes their removal from the Battlegrounds Store particularly frustrating. Kabam’s justification that these items are “outdated” for Paragon players is disconnected from their actual utility in-game. As an interim measure, could we at least see an adjustment to the Glory costs of these lower items whilst Kabam works on the alternative?
4. The Basis for This Decision The assertion that the removed items were rarely purchased, based on telemetry data from past months, fails to account for the recent influx of new Thronebreaker and Paragon players incentivized by Kabam’s own campaigns. The data used to justify this decision likely predates the surge of players who now rely on these resources.
If Kabam intends to reallocate these resources elsewhere, it would have been far more responsible to analyze data in the new year after accounting for these changes in player progression. Making decisions based on outdated data risks alienating players who are already heavily invested in advancing their rosters.
Final Thoughts: While I appreciate that Kabam plans to replace these items elsewhere, the transition has been poorly handled. Removing key resources without a simultaneous alternative is unacceptable. The delay in implementing replacements, the strain this puts on Glory and other limited resources, and the failure to account for recent player progression incentives make this change feel shortsighted and unfair.
I hope Kabam will consider these points carefully and work toward a solution that better supports its player base across all progression levels.
Hello. I haven't responded because I don't have much to add. The post announcing the changes specifies the intent, that the BG store is intended to become a more premium offering.
What I will add is that we can't just keep adding more things to the store as we add more progressions. The store is already too big. Imagine 10 years from now with 8 more progressions and dozens of new catalysts. It's just not sustainable to keep adding without ever removing anything. Having said that, we do want to make some of this stuff available elsewhere in a more sustainable way. Likely the Trader's Outpost will be the spot.
To your comment about "near-universal disapproval" I'm sorry but that's just disconnected from reality. We have the telemetry and the VAST majority of Paragon and Valiant players never bought the stuff we removed. That's what led to the decision to remove it. However I do acknowledge this change has impacted a small number of Summoners who feel very strongly about it, and as a result we are accelerating our plans to replace the relevant sources.
Adding the 5 T4 Basics as a Unit offer at the end of a T4 Proving Grounds run is a start, but realistically those lower tier assets need to be more readily available for top end players. The motivation is for those looking to "complete" their collection of lower tier ranked champions. I actually think Arenas may be the way to go here.
I love the 2* arenas when they appear because I love getting the rarer 2* champs. What if there are regular milestone driven arenas (no rank rewards) that force the usage of our 2, 3 and 4* rosters to reasonably grind for T1 Alpha, T2 Alpha, T3 Basic/Class and T4 Basic/Class catalysts. There would need to be meaningful quantities of them available for the grind, perhaps on a weekly basis. Something like this could replace the weekly count that was otherwise in the Battlegrounds store and provide an excuse for Paragon and Valiant players to use their lower star level champions.
I'm going to cross post this in a 2* arena discussion as I'd love to see those become a staple as opposed to a special event.
Alternatively, another "fix" could be tweaking the Greater Solo Crystals or Supreme Solo Crystals to include more of these resources / change the drop rates on these resources.
Hello. I haven't responded because I don't have much to add. The post announcing the changes specifies the intent, that the BG store is intended to become a more premium offering.
What I will add is that we can't just keep adding more things to the store as we add more progressions. The store is already too big. Imagine 10 years from now with 8 more progressions and dozens of new catalysts. It's just not sustainable to keep adding without ever removing anything. Having said that, we do want to make some of this stuff available elsewhere in a more sustainable way. Likely the Trader's Outpost will be the spot.
To your comment about "near-universal disapproval" I'm sorry but that's just disconnected from reality. We have the telemetry and the VAST majority of Paragon and Valiant players never bought the stuff we removed. That's what led to the decision to remove it. However I do acknowledge this change has impacted a small number of Summoners who feel very strongly about it, and as a result we are accelerating our plans to replace the relevant sources.
I’m a valiant level player who just recently returned to playing the game and I can understand the removal of certain resources in the store to prevent it from being overloaded but I’ve been consistently buying the 3-4 star relic shards in the store and now I’ve got nowhere else to get them I’d understand if there was somewhere else I can obtain them consistently but now my only option is uncollected event quest so now I’ve gone from getting 3 relics a month down to 1
Hello. I haven't responded because I don't have much to add. The post announcing the changes specifies the intent, that the BG store is intended to become a more premium offering.
What I will add is that we can't just keep adding more things to the store as we add more progressions. The store is already too big. Imagine 10 years from now with 8 more progressions and dozens of new catalysts. It's just not sustainable to keep adding without ever removing anything. Having said that, we do want to make some of this stuff available elsewhere in a more sustainable way. Likely the Trader's Outpost will be the spot.
To your comment about "near-universal disapproval" I'm sorry but that's just disconnected from reality. We have the telemetry and the VAST majority of Paragon and Valiant players never bought the stuff we removed. That's what led to the decision to remove it. However I do acknowledge this change has impacted a small number of Summoners who feel very strongly about it, and as a result we are accelerating our plans to replace the relevant sources.
If they flood the game with lower stars and mats the player complains about bad rewards. If they take them away the player complains about how much those lower rewards mean.... 🤦
What a ridiculous strawman. When was the last time 5* shards were the main reward focus of end game content? And even those few relic shards being there are completely different from opting those rewards in a store.
It's not the same people making these complaints
Really? Cause most people seem to claim being super active and this and that, and all of the sudden thwy can't get certain things. People wanted the super event back?.. guess what the 22 hr event had a lot of the things people are asking for right now. Its all a trade off, you get both sides of the coin in the forums. People saying how useless the relic rewards are, and now people who want them from the BG store. 5*s plenty of them on other farmsble difficulties. Lower rank up materials? Extremely cheap in glory store, Everything is spread out if you know how to manage your resources, farm and be truly active. TRULY ACTIVE doesn't mean spending all day on global and doing just arena. I love your question of the 5* shards as reward in end game content. When was the last time that 4* or 5* and their sig stones mattered to end game players? And you call my response ridiculous strawman? Really?
Yes . Because it's not the same people complaining about relic rewards and then going and buying it from the BG store.
There are different types of players. I value 4* sig stones because I want to max out all my 4* champs. No. I don't need it. But that's my style. Same goes for the 5* sig stones from the BG store. I've not once gotten a 5* sig stones from any endgame content for years. So how the hell do I complain about it?
Who said end game content anyway?.. Everything that people are complaining about is spread out in every piece of content. They want it so much well... They are going to have to do it I mean SQ, EQ all that stuff is outdated...the rewards are horrible, then people complain about being taken away from BG store?.. Funniest fact, 4* and 5* sig stones were available for free in the 22hr event; but everyone wanted a much better rewarding Super event, they make BG store more rewarding and now people want all those small items 🤣. Also did I say You complained by name? Did I single you out?... Not sure where the "How do I complain about it" comes from. This whole thread is a massive complaint over items that are honestly not worth getting with BG currency.
One stupid example is the t4 basic, I used to be able to get it for a very cheap price in the bg store and now to get it I either need to spend units or an overpriced amount of glory, maybe if those items didn't have an incremental price then I can be ok with it being the way to go but its not the case. Yes you can get some in the lower EQ difficulties but the amount is laughable and literally there's no othet way to get it without using units. The daily quest for t4 basic gives a ridicolous amount and to get some you need to buy the pop up offer with units. T4 basics are still needed to rankup 6 stars so they're not outdated resources and it makes no sense they're removed from the bg store, well it means I can no longer rankup new 6 stars because for kabam 6 stars are already dead but we still got only half the champions available as 7 stars for some stupid reason, maybe they should start adding new champions as 7 star much quicker than now
I completely agree that the removal of 5* sig stones for Paragon+ has not been not very thought out. Today an average player can become Paragon in like 6 months without much trouble and it means having smaller roster and the dependance on some specific 5*. For example I am playing for about a year, Paragon, had 8 7* before the supply drop and still often relly on my 5* Absman, SpiderHam and Kitty. If I get for example 5* DoctorDoom or Quake, I will want to max them out too for specific content or simply because there is no 6* version of Quake.
However I think Kabam can make some smart move for example with the planned revision of EQ rewards. Having some substantial number of 5* sig stones (like 50) and other lower tier items for the full completion of the EQ quest on some lower difficulties (Uncollected etc.) will bring incentive to do those EQ for not just units.
Kabam economist are always thinking ahead with alt motives, and anytime they can force players hand based on the "Data" it usually goes through unchallenged. That's why most content is geared towards end game rather than lower level progress. It's always interesting how condescending certain people are when it comes to the game itself, so many scream about skills yet don't seem to grasp that skill level varies. Also what I also find interesting is that for all the skills required, nobody who is super skilled can teach others to be better other than giving advice because as noted by the top players, the game is currently not consistent with AI behavior etc. That being said forcing yourself to push through content with the AI behavior as is doesn't make sense. I definitely agree that using lower rarity champions is not as "Dead" as some think. I hope the Sigil update does a great job of keeping all the player base in mind.
If they flood the game with lower stars and mats the player complains about bad rewards. If they take them away the player complains about how much those lower rewards mean.... 🤦
What a ridiculous strawman. When was the last time 5* shards were the main reward focus of end game content? And even those few relic shards being there are completely different from opting those rewards in a store.
It's not the same people making these complaints
Really? Cause most people seem to claim being super active and this and that, and all of the sudden thwy can't get certain things. People wanted the super event back?.. guess what the 22 hr event had a lot of the things people are asking for right now. Its all a trade off, you get both sides of the coin in the forums. People saying how useless the relic rewards are, and now people who want them from the BG store. 5*s plenty of them on other farmsble difficulties. Lower rank up materials? Extremely cheap in glory store, Everything is spread out if you know how to manage your resources, farm and be truly active. TRULY ACTIVE doesn't mean spending all day on global and doing just arena. I love your question of the 5* shards as reward in end game content. When was the last time that 4* or 5* and their sig stones mattered to end game players? And you call my response ridiculous strawman? Really?
Yes . Because it's not the same people complaining about relic rewards and then going and buying it from the BG store.
There are different types of players. I value 4* sig stones because I want to max out all my 4* champs. No. I don't need it. But that's my style. Same goes for the 5* sig stones from the BG store. I've not once gotten a 5* sig stones from any endgame content for years. So how the hell do I complain about it?
Who said end game content anyway?.. Everything that people are complaining about is spread out in every piece of content. They want it so much well... They are going to have to do it I mean SQ, EQ all that stuff is outdated...the rewards are horrible, then people complain about being taken away from BG store?.. Funniest fact, 4* and 5* sig stones were available for free in the 22hr event; but everyone wanted a much better rewarding Super event, they make BG store more rewarding and now people want all those small items 🤣. Also did I say You complained by name? Did I single you out?... Not sure where the "How do I complain about it" comes from. This whole thread is a massive complaint over items that are honestly not worth getting with BG currency.
One stupid example is the t4 basic, I used to be able to get it for a very cheap price in the bg store and now to get it I either need to spend units or an overpriced amount of glory, maybe if those items didn't have an incremental price then I can be ok with it being the way to go but its not the case. Yes you can get some in the lower EQ difficulties but the amount is laughable and literally there's no othet way to get it without using units. The daily quest for t4 basic gives a ridicolous amount and to get some you need to buy the pop up offer with units. T4 basics are still needed to rankup 6 stars so they're not outdated resources and it makes no sense they're removed from the bg store, well it means I can no longer rankup new 6 stars because for kabam 6 stars are already dead but we still got only half the champions available as 7 stars for some stupid reason, maybe they should start adding new champions as 7 star much quicker than now
T4B 2 for 40 glory is overpriced?...20 glory each is overpriced, yeah they do increment as you buy but that is overpriced?!?!
Yeah I'm pretty sure they will make it top priority and push an emergency hot fix on something that they said is intended so people can max sig 5* in the next couple of days ..
If they flood the game with lower stars and mats the player complains about bad rewards. If they take them away the player complains about how much those lower rewards mean.... 🤦
What a ridiculous strawman. When was the last time 5* shards were the main reward focus of end game content? And even those few relic shards being there are completely different from opting those rewards in a store.
It's not the same people making these complaints
Really? Cause most people seem to claim being super active and this and that, and all of the sudden thwy can't get certain things. People wanted the super event back?.. guess what the 22 hr event had a lot of the things people are asking for right now. Its all a trade off, you get both sides of the coin in the forums. People saying how useless the relic rewards are, and now people who want them from the BG store. 5*s plenty of them on other farmsble difficulties. Lower rank up materials? Extremely cheap in glory store, Everything is spread out if you know how to manage your resources, farm and be truly active. TRULY ACTIVE doesn't mean spending all day on global and doing just arena. I love your question of the 5* shards as reward in end game content. When was the last time that 4* or 5* and their sig stones mattered to end game players? And you call my response ridiculous strawman? Really?
Yes . Because it's not the same people complaining about relic rewards and then going and buying it from the BG store.
There are different types of players. I value 4* sig stones because I want to max out all my 4* champs. No. I don't need it. But that's my style. Same goes for the 5* sig stones from the BG store. I've not once gotten a 5* sig stones from any endgame content for years. So how the hell do I complain about it?
Who said end game content anyway?.. Everything that people are complaining about is spread out in every piece of content. They want it so much well... They are going to have to do it I mean SQ, EQ all that stuff is outdated...the rewards are horrible, then people complain about being taken away from BG store?.. Funniest fact, 4* and 5* sig stones were available for free in the 22hr event; but everyone wanted a much better rewarding Super event, they make BG store more rewarding and now people want all those small items 🤣. Also did I say You complained by name? Did I single you out?... Not sure where the "How do I complain about it" comes from. This whole thread is a massive complaint over items that are honestly not worth getting with BG currency.
One stupid example is the t4 basic, I used to be able to get it for a very cheap price in the bg store and now to get it I either need to spend units or an overpriced amount of glory, maybe if those items didn't have an incremental price then I can be ok with it being the way to go but its not the case. Yes you can get some in the lower EQ difficulties but the amount is laughable and literally there's no othet way to get it without using units. The daily quest for t4 basic gives a ridicolous amount and to get some you need to buy the pop up offer with units. T4 basics are still needed to rankup 6 stars so they're not outdated resources and it makes no sense they're removed from the bg store, well it means I can no longer rankup new 6 stars because for kabam 6 stars are already dead but we still got only half the champions available as 7 stars for some stupid reason, maybe they should start adding new champions as 7 star much quicker than now
T4B 2 for 40 glory is overpriced?...20 glory each is overpriced, yeah they do increment as you buy but that is overpriced?!?!
Yeah like I need only 2 t4b to rankup a 6 star lol, do u actually play the game or just spend the whole day here in the forum? Did u defeat the collector or are u just stuck as conqueror? If I want to r2 2 6 stars per week I need to spend 500 glory only for t4b, with that amount you can buy 15% t6cc, do u think thats balanced?
If they flood the game with lower stars and mats the player complains about bad rewards. If they take them away the player complains about how much those lower rewards mean.... 🤦
What a ridiculous strawman. When was the last time 5* shards were the main reward focus of end game content? And even those few relic shards being there are completely different from opting those rewards in a store.
It's not the same people making these complaints
Really? Cause most people seem to claim being super active and this and that, and all of the sudden thwy can't get certain things. People wanted the super event back?.. guess what the 22 hr event had a lot of the things people are asking for right now. Its all a trade off, you get both sides of the coin in the forums. People saying how useless the relic rewards are, and now people who want them from the BG store. 5*s plenty of them on other farmsble difficulties. Lower rank up materials? Extremely cheap in glory store, Everything is spread out if you know how to manage your resources, farm and be truly active. TRULY ACTIVE doesn't mean spending all day on global and doing just arena. I love your question of the 5* shards as reward in end game content. When was the last time that 4* or 5* and their sig stones mattered to end game players? And you call my response ridiculous strawman? Really?
Yes . Because it's not the same people complaining about relic rewards and then going and buying it from the BG store.
There are different types of players. I value 4* sig stones because I want to max out all my 4* champs. No. I don't need it. But that's my style. Same goes for the 5* sig stones from the BG store. I've not once gotten a 5* sig stones from any endgame content for years. So how the hell do I complain about it?
Who said end game content anyway?.. Everything that people are complaining about is spread out in every piece of content. They want it so much well... They are going to have to do it I mean SQ, EQ all that stuff is outdated...the rewards are horrible, then people complain about being taken away from BG store?.. Funniest fact, 4* and 5* sig stones were available for free in the 22hr event; but everyone wanted a much better rewarding Super event, they make BG store more rewarding and now people want all those small items 🤣. Also did I say You complained by name? Did I single you out?... Not sure where the "How do I complain about it" comes from. This whole thread is a massive complaint over items that are honestly not worth getting with BG currency.
One stupid example is the t4 basic, I used to be able to get it for a very cheap price in the bg store and now to get it I either need to spend units or an overpriced amount of glory, maybe if those items didn't have an incremental price then I can be ok with it being the way to go but its not the case. Yes you can get some in the lower EQ difficulties but the amount is laughable and literally there's no othet way to get it without using units. The daily quest for t4 basic gives a ridicolous amount and to get some you need to buy the pop up offer with units. T4 basics are still needed to rankup 6 stars so they're not outdated resources and it makes no sense they're removed from the bg store, well it means I can no longer rankup new 6 stars because for kabam 6 stars are already dead but we still got only half the champions available as 7 stars for some stupid reason, maybe they should start adding new champions as 7 star much quicker than now
T4B 2 for 40 glory is overpriced?...20 glory each is overpriced, yeah they do increment as you buy but that is overpriced?!?!
Yeah like I need only 2 t4b to rankup a 6 star lol, do u actually play the game or just spend the whole day here in the forum? Did u defeat the collector or are u just stuck as conqueror? If I want to r2 2 6 stars per week I need to spend 500 glory only for t4b, with that amount you can buy 15% t6cc, do u think thats balanced?
I'm a Valiant with 16 r3s , 26k Prestige and a 6.75 m rating account. I do all content available and also don't give a F about 5*. Also I r2 and r3 6* odaily cause I don't like selling expiring catalyst and ISO... How about you?
If they flood the game with lower stars and mats the player complains about bad rewards. If they take them away the player complains about how much those lower rewards mean.... 🤦
What a ridiculous strawman. When was the last time 5* shards were the main reward focus of end game content? And even those few relic shards being there are completely different from opting those rewards in a store.
It's not the same people making these complaints
Really? Cause most people seem to claim being super active and this and that, and all of the sudden thwy can't get certain things. People wanted the super event back?.. guess what the 22 hr event had a lot of the things people are asking for right now. Its all a trade off, you get both sides of the coin in the forums. People saying how useless the relic rewards are, and now people who want them from the BG store. 5*s plenty of them on other farmsble difficulties. Lower rank up materials? Extremely cheap in glory store, Everything is spread out if you know how to manage your resources, farm and be truly active. TRULY ACTIVE doesn't mean spending all day on global and doing just arena. I love your question of the 5* shards as reward in end game content. When was the last time that 4* or 5* and their sig stones mattered to end game players? And you call my response ridiculous strawman? Really?
Yes . Because it's not the same people complaining about relic rewards and then going and buying it from the BG store.
There are different types of players. I value 4* sig stones because I want to max out all my 4* champs. No. I don't need it. But that's my style. Same goes for the 5* sig stones from the BG store. I've not once gotten a 5* sig stones from any endgame content for years. So how the hell do I complain about it?
Who said end game content anyway?.. Everything that people are complaining about is spread out in every piece of content. They want it so much well... They are going to have to do it I mean SQ, EQ all that stuff is outdated...the rewards are horrible, then people complain about being taken away from BG store?.. Funniest fact, 4* and 5* sig stones were available for free in the 22hr event; but everyone wanted a much better rewarding Super event, they make BG store more rewarding and now people want all those small items 🤣. Also did I say You complained by name? Did I single you out?... Not sure where the "How do I complain about it" comes from. This whole thread is a massive complaint over items that are honestly not worth getting with BG currency.
One stupid example is the t4 basic, I used to be able to get it for a very cheap price in the bg store and now to get it I either need to spend units or an overpriced amount of glory, maybe if those items didn't have an incremental price then I can be ok with it being the way to go but its not the case. Yes you can get some in the lower EQ difficulties but the amount is laughable and literally there's no othet way to get it without using units. The daily quest for t4 basic gives a ridicolous amount and to get some you need to buy the pop up offer with units. T4 basics are still needed to rankup 6 stars so they're not outdated resources and it makes no sense they're removed from the bg store, well it means I can no longer rankup new 6 stars because for kabam 6 stars are already dead but we still got only half the champions available as 7 stars for some stupid reason, maybe they should start adding new champions as 7 star much quicker than now
T4B 2 for 40 glory is overpriced?...20 glory each is overpriced, yeah they do increment as you buy but that is overpriced?!?!
Yeah like I need only 2 t4b to rankup a 6 star lol, do u actually play the game or just spend the whole day here in the forum? Did u defeat the collector or are u just stuck as conqueror? If I want to r2 2 6 stars per week I need to spend 500 glory only for t4b, with that amount you can buy 15% t6cc, do u think thats balanced?
I'm a Valiant with 16 r3s , 26k Prestige and a 6.75 m rating account. I do all content available and also don't give a F about 5*. Also I r2 and r3 6* odaily cause I don't like selling expiring catalyst and ISO... How about you?
How do u get enough t4b to r2 6 stars daily? I guess you spend units lol, imagine spending units in 2024 to get something as worthless like you say as t4b
Yeah I'm pretty sure they will make it top priority and push an emergency hot fix on something that they said is intended so people can max sig 5* in the next couple of days ..
You're forgetting the glaring issue. 5* shards getting removed means much less iso
If they flood the game with lower stars and mats the player complains about bad rewards. If they take them away the player complains about how much those lower rewards mean.... 🤦
What a ridiculous strawman. When was the last time 5* shards were the main reward focus of end game content? And even those few relic shards being there are completely different from opting those rewards in a store.
It's not the same people making these complaints
Really? Cause most people seem to claim being super active and this and that, and all of the sudden thwy can't get certain things. People wanted the super event back?.. guess what the 22 hr event had a lot of the things people are asking for right now. Its all a trade off, you get both sides of the coin in the forums. People saying how useless the relic rewards are, and now people who want them from the BG store. 5*s plenty of them on other farmsble difficulties. Lower rank up materials? Extremely cheap in glory store, Everything is spread out if you know how to manage your resources, farm and be truly active. TRULY ACTIVE doesn't mean spending all day on global and doing just arena. I love your question of the 5* shards as reward in end game content. When was the last time that 4* or 5* and their sig stones mattered to end game players? And you call my response ridiculous strawman? Really?
Yes . Because it's not the same people complaining about relic rewards and then going and buying it from the BG store.
There are different types of players. I value 4* sig stones because I want to max out all my 4* champs. No. I don't need it. But that's my style. Same goes for the 5* sig stones from the BG store. I've not once gotten a 5* sig stones from any endgame content for years. So how the hell do I complain about it?
Who said end game content anyway?.. Everything that people are complaining about is spread out in every piece of content. They want it so much well... They are going to have to do it I mean SQ, EQ all that stuff is outdated...the rewards are horrible, then people complain about being taken away from BG store?.. Funniest fact, 4* and 5* sig stones were available for free in the 22hr event; but everyone wanted a much better rewarding Super event, they make BG store more rewarding and now people want all those small items 🤣. Also did I say You complained by name? Did I single you out?... Not sure where the "How do I complain about it" comes from. This whole thread is a massive complaint over items that are honestly not worth getting with BG currency.
One stupid example is the t4 basic, I used to be able to get it for a very cheap price in the bg store and now to get it I either need to spend units or an overpriced amount of glory, maybe if those items didn't have an incremental price then I can be ok with it being the way to go but its not the case. Yes you can get some in the lower EQ difficulties but the amount is laughable and literally there's no othet way to get it without using units. The daily quest for t4 basic gives a ridicolous amount and to get some you need to buy the pop up offer with units. T4 basics are still needed to rankup 6 stars so they're not outdated resources and it makes no sense they're removed from the bg store, well it means I can no longer rankup new 6 stars because for kabam 6 stars are already dead but we still got only half the champions available as 7 stars for some stupid reason, maybe they should start adding new champions as 7 star much quicker than now
T4B 2 for 40 glory is overpriced?...20 glory each is overpriced, yeah they do increment as you buy but that is overpriced?!?!
Yeah like I need only 2 t4b to rankup a 6 star lol, do u actually play the game or just spend the whole day here in the forum? Did u defeat the collector or are u just stuck as conqueror? If I want to r2 2 6 stars per week I need to spend 500 glory only for t4b, with that amount you can buy 15% t6cc, do u think thats balanced?
I'm a Valiant with 16 r3s , 26k Prestige and a 6.75 m rating account. I do all content available and also don't give a F about 5*. Also I r2 and r3 6* odaily cause I don't like selling expiring catalyst and ISO... How about you?
How do u get enough t4b to r2 6 stars daily? I guess you spend units lol, imagine spending units in 2024 to get something as worthless like you say as t4b
More assumptions?...So you tried to belittle me and now you go saying "You must spend units"... Rofl pathetic, no wonder you cry over t4b... Imagine crying over t4b in 2024...
Yeah I'm pretty sure they will make it top priority and push an emergency hot fix on something that they said is intended so people can max sig 5* in the next couple of days ..
You're forgetting the glaring issue. 5* shards getting removed means much less iso
Yeah I'm pretty sure they will make it top priority and push an emergency hot fix on something that they said is intended so people can max sig 5* in the next couple of days ..
You're forgetting the glaring issue. 5* shards getting removed means much less iso
Oh yeah the so called ISO drought...sure..
If you're not grinding BGs for ISO, do you even lift bro?
the thread's comments are over 100 now. the dev should hear and reverse the decision. I think valiants/paragons are hurted much because of this decsion including me. They are loyal gamers too who played hard to get those titles
Hello. I haven't responded because I don't have much to add. The post announcing the changes specifies the intent, that the BG store is intended to become a more premium offering.
What I will add is that we can't just keep adding more things to the store as we add more progressions. The store is already too big. Imagine 10 years from now with 8 more progressions and dozens of new catalysts. It's just not sustainable to keep adding without ever removing anything. Having said that, we do want to make some of this stuff available elsewhere in a more sustainable way. Likely the Trader's Outpost will be the spot.
To your comment about "near-universal disapproval" I'm sorry but that's just disconnected from reality. We have the telemetry and the VAST majority of Paragon and Valiant players never bought the stuff we removed. That's what led to the decision to remove it. However I do acknowledge this change has impacted a small number of Summoners who feel very strongly about it, and as a result we are accelerating our plans to replace the relevant sources.
I have no issues with moving lower tier items to another store, however you’re creating an issue where there wasn’t any. The currency gained from battlegrounds is enough to be able to budget some horizontal progression in the lower tiers, while maintaining a steady progression on top tier items. The reason we can manage to progress in multiple tiers at the same time is because there are many more resource bottlenecks at the top tier. So while we’re waiting for said resources to refresh, the regular income of trophy tokens allow us to focus on other areas where our account is lacking.
Unfortunately the allowance of Mysterium currently provided for the Trader’s Outpost has no room for more stuff. That means to fit more stuff in the Trader’s outpost we will need to either increase the allowance of weekly Mysterium, or reduce the prices of current bundles. My preference, however, would be a complete reconstruction of the Trader’s outpost to get rid of the bundling system and individualize each item, making it more like the bg store. If you’re thinking, “we already have a bg store, why would we make another one just like it?” It’s because it works! Outside of the Valiant bundle 4 with the 7 star shards, every other bundle contains only 1 thing I want at the time, meaning 2/3 of the currency is being wasted. Although, I wouldn’t call the items a waste, they're just not necessary to my current goals of progression, hence the mysterium is constantly being misplaced into the wrong items.
After becoming Valiant, I still had a lot of 6 star champions to rank up, which requires a lot of the T2 alphas that were just removed. To most 6 stars are still the meat of this game that covers for a lacking 7 star roster. Even if I had every 7 star champion available right now, there’d be 30 six starred champions worth ranking up. Also the champions any account has is RNG based, and some content calls for specific counters, so we might have to dive down to the lower tiers to find what we need. The Crucible is a great example of such content, and I had to rank up several 5 stars to be able to complete it.
Another end game content we rank our champions up for is the arena. As long as the 4 star arena is a thing, ranking up 4 stars will be part of the end game as well, and that’s why I’ve been buying the T4 basics from the bg store.
Sorry if my points are a bit scattered. There’s a lot I want to say on the topic, even if I’m part of only a “small number of Summoners”.
I'm ok with them not being in BG store if they're available elsewhere for something other than Units. Change the Glory store so they don't escalate in price. Put them in with Loyalty at a reasonable price, Put them in larger quantities in weekly arenas that require the use of the lower level champions. I'd welcome an Arena that I can win 15 matches with (like the 2 star arena) that awards 10+ T1 Alpha, T4 Basic, and lower level champion selectors or Abyss Nexus Crystals.
Yeah I'm pretty sure they will make it top priority and push an emergency hot fix on something that they said is intended so people can max sig 5* in the next couple of days ..
You're forgetting the glaring issue. 5* shards getting removed means much less iso
Oh yeah the so called ISO drought...sure..
Yes, the iso drought. Are you denying its existence?
It’s incredibly frustrating that this issue has had no response or resolution, despite over 100 comments on the thread. Players are still being forced to choose between spending over 1,000–1,200 Glory each week (out of a typical ~3,500 weekly Glory), or using Units to acquire essential low-tier items like Tier 4 Class Catalysts. This is absurd, especially during the Chronoversary side quest, where we’re explicitly required to rank up champions that we otherwise wouldn’t—often 6-star champions.
Claiming that 6-star resources are “outdated” for Paragon players is completely out of touch. Six stars are still highly relevant for most of us, particularly since 7-star champions are far harder to rank beyond Rank 2. Ascended 6-star champions are often the backbone of our rosters. Removing these resources without viable alternatives feels like a slap in the face, especially when Kabam has actively incentivized progression to Thronebreaker and Paragon with the 10x10 drop event.
The data Kabam has cited to justify these changes likely predates those incentives, which drove players to push to higher progression levels. Many of us who pushed for these rewards are now being penalized, left scrambling for resources to develop rosters that were already stretched thin.
The silence from Kabam on this issue is unacceptable. Players are still frustrated, and nothing has been done to address a problem that has affected so many of us. If the intent is to “replace these items elsewhere,” why has that still not happened? We need a meaningful update on this situation, because out of touch and quite frankly in my opinion, short sighted changes like this really make me want to hang up this game permanently. We should NOT be forced to chose between glory or units for (to quote Kabam crashed “outdated resources!”)
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People wanted the super event back?.. guess what the 22 hr event had a lot of the things people are asking for right now.
Its all a trade off, you get both sides of the coin in the forums. People saying how useless the relic rewards are, and now people who want them from the BG store. 5*s plenty of them on other farmsble difficulties. Lower rank up materials? Extremely cheap in glory store,
Everything is spread out if you know how to manage your resources, farm and be truly active. TRULY ACTIVE doesn't mean spending all day on global and doing just arena.
I love your question of the 5* shards as reward in end game content. When was the last time that 4* or 5* and their sig stones mattered to end game players? And you call my response ridiculous strawman? Really?
There are different types of players. I value 4* sig stones because I want to max out all my 4* champs. No. I don't need it. But that's my style. Same goes for the 5* sig stones from the BG store. I've not once gotten a 5* sig stones from any endgame content for years. So how the hell do I complain about it?
Everything that people are complaining about is spread out in every piece of content. They want it so much well... They are going to have to do it
I mean SQ, EQ all that stuff is outdated...the rewards are horrible, then people complain about being taken away from BG store?..
Funniest fact, 4* and 5* sig stones were available for free in the 22hr event; but everyone wanted a much better rewarding Super event, they make BG store more rewarding and now people want all those small items 🤣.
Also did I say You complained by name? Did I single you out?... Not sure where the "How do I complain about it" comes from. This whole thread is a massive complaint over items that are honestly not worth getting with BG currency.
@DNA3000 appreciate your healthy debate response and so as not to get into another essay and respond to one of your points.
My, personal, angst against this decision is the choice being taken away for the community to be able spend their currencies on things that make the game what it is for them personally...I guess, for me, that's it in a nutshell - the choice being taken away.
In saying that though, a topic of reason that has been in the back of my mind (DISCLAIMER: To the community, I have very little knowledge on this subject so if I get it wrong, it's just a suggestion...) is that someone has to code and program all of this so I get from that angle, it could be quite labour intensive and complicated to have to code and program all progression levels with all the resources at all the different quantities for all the different costs. Furthermore, there has to be a cut off point to make way for future progression levels, which the ongoing reduction in cost/increase in quantity curve for higher progressions just doesn't accommodate.
*TIN FOIL HAT MOMENT* the re-structure of the store and it's contents + the increase summoner level to 70 and introduction of the refined XP could be pointing to the introduction of the next progression level.
Thank you for responding directly to the concerns raised. While your explanation offers some clarity, I still feel there are several key issues that need addressing regarding the removal of these items from the Battlegrounds Store and their proposed relocation to the Trader’s Outpost.
1. The Trader’s Outpost Limits Player Freedom
If the removed items are moved to the Trader’s Outpost, players will be forced to choose between progression-based items and lower-tier resources necessary for ranking up champions. For example, taking the current Mysterium side quest as a model, players can earn around 22,500 Mysterium per week, while most bundles for Paragon players cost 6,000–7,000 Mysterium each. This means players can only afford around three bundles weekly, forcing them to decide between advancing their roster or replenishing these essential lower-tier items.
This trade-off is exacerbated by the fact that the Battlegrounds Store offered effectively limitless purchases of these resources (based on earned chips), whereas the Trader’s Outpost imposes a strict cap via weekly Mysterium rewards. If these resources are shifted to the Trader’s Outpost, will Mysterium rewards increase to accommodate this added strain on players?
2. The Incentive to Push Progression Levels
Recent events, particularly the 10x10 drop, heavily incentivized players to push their progression levels to Thronebreaker and Paragon. Thronebreaker players received a free 7-star champion Isophyne along with 10 free 6-stars, while Paragon players were rewarded with 10 free 7-stars. However, this same group of incentivized players is now disproportionately affected by the removal of items from the Battlegrounds Store.
Players who pushed progression levels to access these rewards are now penalized by having essential lower-tier resources stripped away. This creates a scenario where progression is being encouraged, only for those same players to lose access to tools needed to build their rosters effectively. (Even if it’s just for a time.)
3. Glory Costs and Incremental Pricing
Currently, advanced players must now either overspend Glory or use Units to obtain these lower-tier resources. In the Glory Store, incremental pricing makes buying the maximum weekly limit of Tier 4 Class Catalysts cost over 1,000 Glory—a significant portion of the 3,500 Glory most alliances earn weekly.
These catalysts remain highly relevant for ranking up 6-star champions from Rank 1 to 2 and Rank 2 to 3, which makes their removal from the Battlegrounds Store particularly frustrating. Kabam’s justification that these items are “outdated” for Paragon players is disconnected from their actual utility in-game.
As an interim measure, could we at least see an adjustment to the Glory costs of these lower items whilst Kabam works on the alternative?
4. The Basis for This Decision
The assertion that the removed items were rarely purchased, based on telemetry data from past months, fails to account for the recent influx of new Thronebreaker and Paragon players incentivized by Kabam’s own campaigns. The data used to justify this decision likely predates the surge of players who now rely on these resources.
If Kabam intends to reallocate these resources elsewhere, it would have been far more responsible to analyze data in the new year after accounting for these changes in player progression. Making decisions based on outdated data risks alienating players who are already heavily invested in advancing their rosters.
Final Thoughts:
While I appreciate that Kabam plans to replace these items elsewhere, the transition has been poorly handled. Removing key resources without a simultaneous alternative is unacceptable. The delay in implementing replacements, the strain this puts on Glory and other limited resources, and the failure to account for recent player progression incentives make this change feel shortsighted and unfair.
I hope Kabam will consider these points carefully and work toward a solution that better supports its player base across all progression levels.
I love the 2* arenas when they appear because I love getting the rarer 2* champs. What if there are regular milestone driven arenas (no rank rewards) that force the usage of our 2, 3 and 4* rosters to reasonably grind for T1 Alpha, T2 Alpha, T3 Basic/Class and T4 Basic/Class catalysts. There would need to be meaningful quantities of them available for the grind, perhaps on a weekly basis. Something like this could replace the weekly count that was otherwise in the Battlegrounds store and provide an excuse for Paragon and Valiant players to use their lower star level champions.
I'm going to cross post this in a 2* arena discussion as I'd love to see those become a staple as opposed to a special event.
Alternatively, another "fix" could be tweaking the Greater Solo Crystals or Supreme Solo Crystals to include more of these resources / change the drop rates on these resources.
However I think Kabam can make some smart move for example with the planned revision of EQ rewards. Having some substantial number of 5* sig stones (like 50) and other lower tier items for the full completion of the EQ quest on some lower difficulties (Uncollected etc.) will bring incentive to do those EQ for not just units.
Imagine crying over t4b in 2024...
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I have no issues with moving lower tier items to another store, however you’re creating an issue where there wasn’t any. The currency gained from battlegrounds is enough to be able to budget some horizontal progression in the lower tiers, while maintaining a steady progression on top tier items. The reason we can manage to progress in multiple tiers at the same time is because there are many more resource bottlenecks at the top tier. So while we’re waiting for said resources to refresh, the regular income of trophy tokens allow us to focus on other areas where our account is lacking.
Unfortunately the allowance of Mysterium currently provided for the Trader’s Outpost has no room for more stuff. That means to fit more stuff in the Trader’s outpost we will need to either increase the allowance of weekly Mysterium, or reduce the prices of current bundles. My preference, however, would be a complete reconstruction of the Trader’s outpost to get rid of the bundling system and individualize each item, making it more like the bg store. If you’re thinking, “we already have a bg store, why would we make another one just like it?” It’s because it works! Outside of the Valiant bundle 4 with the 7 star shards, every other bundle contains only 1 thing I want at the time, meaning 2/3 of the currency is being wasted. Although, I wouldn’t call the items a waste, they're just not necessary to my current goals of progression, hence the mysterium is constantly being misplaced into the wrong items.
After becoming Valiant, I still had a lot of 6 star champions to rank up, which requires a lot of the T2 alphas that were just removed. To most 6 stars are still the meat of this game that covers for a lacking 7 star roster. Even if I had every 7 star champion available right now, there’d be 30 six starred champions worth ranking up. Also the champions any account has is RNG based, and some content calls for specific counters, so we might have to dive down to the lower tiers to find what we need. The Crucible is a great example of such content, and I had to rank up several 5 stars to be able to complete it.
Another end game content we rank our champions up for is the arena. As long as the 4 star arena is a thing, ranking up 4 stars will be part of the end game as well, and that’s why I’ve been buying the T4 basics from the bg store.
Sorry if my points are a bit scattered. There’s a lot I want to say on the topic, even if I’m part of only a “small number of Summoners”.
Claiming that 6-star resources are “outdated” for Paragon players is completely out of touch. Six stars are still highly relevant for most of us, particularly since 7-star champions are far harder to rank beyond Rank 2. Ascended 6-star champions are often the backbone of our rosters. Removing these resources without viable alternatives feels like a slap in the face, especially when Kabam has actively incentivized progression to Thronebreaker and Paragon with the 10x10 drop event.
The data Kabam has cited to justify these changes likely predates those incentives, which drove players to push to higher progression levels. Many of us who pushed for these rewards are now being penalized, left scrambling for resources to develop rosters that were already stretched thin.
The silence from Kabam on this issue is unacceptable. Players are still frustrated, and nothing has been done to address a problem that has affected so many of us. If the intent is to “replace these items elsewhere,” why has that still not happened? We need a meaningful update on this situation, because out of touch and quite frankly in my opinion, short sighted changes like this really make me want to hang up this game permanently. We should NOT be forced to chose between glory or units for (to quote Kabam crashed “outdated resources!”)