Anyone else a Sam fan?

smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 1,519 ★★★
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I’m definitely not on you big ups levels.
But Sam Sp2 is a destroyer

Any other Sam fans in here?
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  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,183 ★★★★★
    edited December 15
    Me but mine is unawakened
  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 1,519 ★★★
    Unawakened as well but still kills it.
    His kit is amazing.
  • Herbal_TaxmanHerbal_Taxman Member Posts: 874 ★★★★
    Mine is sig 60 and I never use him. You’re saying I’m missing out?
  • Vipul9987Vipul9987 Member Posts: 115 ★
    edited December 15

    I am much bigger fan of falcon I have signed 120 rank 3 and he is my top rated champ.
  • Amanda_CruzeAmanda_Cruze Member Posts: 205 ★★
    Silver Centurion has almost same utility with better damage
  • Wally_WooferWally_Woofer Member Posts: 195 ★
    Proud owner or 6r5a sig 200 Sam Wilson here. Not quite sure what compares to Silver Centurion. ..going check that out.
  • GhostboytjieGhostboytjie Member Posts: 2,424 ★★★★★
    I have A R3 duped Falcon and R3 duped Sam.
  • Sundance_2099Sundance_2099 Member Posts: 3,488 ★★★★★
    I'm really looking forward to the movie
  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 4,874 ★★★★★
    Sundance_2099 said:

    I'm really looking forward to the movie

    Same. First marvel movie i will watch in cinema since rags
  • dr2wsdr2ws Member Posts: 635 ★★★
    Falcon does what Sam doesn’t, simple and effective.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,183 ★★★★★
    edited December 15
    Ercarret said:

    I find Sam to be infuriatingly close to being a great champion. But to me, there are just too many timers to keep track of and hoops to jump through for there to be fairly underwhelming damage.

    For how much his utility is lauded, I find him extremely lacking in non-conditional utility. He has so much utility tied to his armor ups, but he loses all of them when he uses his SP2. He can bypass miss, but only during his recon scan. He can get a bulwark buff that reduces the opponent's ability accuracy when hitting into his block, but that's also on a timer that may very well expire and leave you vulnerable. He has no utility that's just...there. You have to juggle so many things to even have access to it, and then sacrifice so much of it if you want to deal damage. I find that to be a very frustrating aspect of him.

    A true jack of all trades but master of none
  • altavistaaltavista Member Posts: 1,495 ★★★★
    Ercarret said:

    I find Sam to be infuriatingly close to being a great champion. But to me, there are just too many timers to keep track of and hoops to jump through for there to be fairly underwhelming damage.

    For how much his utility is lauded, I find him extremely lacking in non-conditional utility. He has so much utility tied to his armor ups, but he loses all of them when he uses his SP2. He can bypass miss, but only during his recon scan. He can get a bulwark buff that reduces the opponent's ability accuracy when hitting into his block, but that's also on a timer that may very well expire and leave you vulnerable. He has no utility that's just...there. You have to juggle so many things to even have access to it, and then sacrifice so much of it if you want to deal damage. I find that to be a very frustrating aspect of him.

    Agreed. What I’ve realized for myself is that I can (only barely) pay attention to one side of the HUD while playing. Cap Sam has things on timers under both his health bar and the opponent’s health bar that you have to pay attention to. I’m not able to keep track of all of that, so he’s not my type of champion.
  • EdisonLawEdisonLaw Member Posts: 8,183 ★★★★★
    Amanda_Cruze said:

    Silver Centurion has almost same utility with better damage

    Silver Centurion does have better damage but he doesn’t have the same utility as Sam such as -100% offensive ability accuracy into block while bulwark is active, the miss counter with lock on, parrying non contact attacks with armor ups, autoblock vs specials, etc.
  • Villain_87Villain_87 Member Posts: 231 ★★
    dont ask with me... i am a true fan of kabam and groot
  • Chilling421Chilling421 Member Posts: 14 ★
    Just got him from back to back crystals ☹️. Its not that he's terrible, there are just better tech champs to use before I even consider using him
  • altavistaaltavista Member Posts: 1,495 ★★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    Amanda_Cruze said:

    Silver Centurion has almost same utility with better damage

    Silver Centurion does have better damage but he doesn’t have the same utility as Sam such as -100% offensive ability accuracy into block while bulwark is active, the miss counter with lock on, parrying non contact attacks with armor ups, autoblock vs specials, etc.
    Ironheart is the better comparison to Sam, right down to be able to apply rupture debuffs. The difference is that Sam skews more defensive minded while Ironheart skews more offensive minded.

    Regardless, I don’t particularly either’s timer based playstyles.
  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 1,519 ★★★
    Chilling421 said:

    Just got him from back to back crystals ☹️. Its not that he's terrible, there are just better tech champs to use before I even consider using him

    Who are the better techs?
  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 1,519 ★★★
    Cat_Murdock said:

    I love Sam, I have mine r3! Is he the hardest hitting champ, no definitely not. But I enjoy his combo of utility and it’s serviced me well in fights. I got to use him recently against both the Jabari Panther and Prowler EOP fights, as he was an objective champ but also his kit worked well for both. He’s not for everyone but he’s definitely for me

    I disagree with the comparison to Silver Cent from above though. They’re both tech that don’t crit, and have some power drain mechanics, but otherwise Sam is anti Miss, anti prowess (not removal, but cowardice), anti offensive ability accuracy, anti getting hit by specials. He is also one of the few non metal techs, which comes in handy against things like Magnetos and Onslaughts. Cent is anti evade and unstoppable, a heal blocker, passive DOT focused, and has a couple of immunities. I use both, but usually not in overlapping areas.



    Anazing writeup.

    Let’s Sam together and eff these other guys.
  • smdam38smdam38 Member Posts: 1,519 ★★★
    EdisonLaw said:

    Amanda_Cruze said:

    Silver Centurion has almost same utility with better damage

    Silver Centurion does have better damage but he doesn’t have the same utility as Sam such as -100% offensive ability accuracy into block while bulwark is active, the miss counter with lock on, parrying non contact attacks with armor ups, autoblock vs specials, etc.
    Ridiculous take. Sam eats champs easy with one sp 2.
    Please tell me a better tech champion.
  • shield311shield311 Member Posts: 996 ★★★★
    so congrats your goat is better than, Kang, Ultron (Classic), Vision, Psycho Man, Iron Patriot, Green Goblin, Yondu? and listing others is just a waste of time so you get it, and mostly probably rocket and p99 are also better attackers while darkhawk is a better defender so yeah..
  • Rookie_DevilRookie_Devil Member Posts: 1 ★
    shield311 said:

    so congrats your goat is better than, Kang, Ultron (Classic), Vision, Psycho Man, Iron Patriot, Green Goblin, Yondu? and listing others is just a waste of time so you get it, and mostly probably rocket and p99 are also better attackers while darkhawk is a better defender so yeah..

    P99 is one of the best tech attackers
  • shield311shield311 Member Posts: 996 ★★★★
    Rookie_Devil said:

    shield311 said:

    so congrats your goat is better than, Kang, Ultron (Classic), Vision, Psycho Man, Iron Patriot, Green Goblin, Yondu? and listing others is just a waste of time so you get it, and mostly probably rocket and p99 are also better attackers while darkhawk is a better defender so yeah..

    P99 is one of the best tech attackers
    bro finally made a forum account 🗣️🗣️
  • Chilling421Chilling421 Member Posts: 14 ★
    smdam38 said:

    Chilling421 said:

    Just got him from back to back crystals ☹️. Its not that he's terrible, there are just better tech champs to use before I even consider using him

    Who are the better techs?
    Nimrod
    Warlock
    Og Ironman
    Ironheart
    Hulkbuster
    Shocker
    Peni
    Prowler
    Guardian
    I can list more but that's really not my point. Like I said, he's not terribly. There are just better options
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