Usually I buy both bundles of banquets crystals(beginning and near end of event) and I’ve spent 18k units and i have no encouragement to spend any money or more units, the SBC is not worth the 300 units of filler.
Milestones are done in solo and alliance and I’ve got enough points for the 7* isosphere.
As a returning player over the last 4 months after not playing for about 4 years. I was thinking I had returned at a great time. Grinding for the banquet tickets and stockpiling units which as a f2p isn't easy.
I am recently paragon and have a few 7*s but all rank 1.
I spent about 9-10k units on SBC and have received pretty much all the rewards from crystals and milestones I'm going to (essentially the 10 year grand banquet event is now over for me within the hour). I have managed 4-5 new 7*s 2k titan shards. Only one of note which was serpent. Many many t6c shards and yes while this at my level will help me, for the investment it has been a massive and underwhelming disappointment.
I remember someone from kabam had said that we could see Thronebreakers with r3 7*s. Well from all the rewards I'm nowhere near a r3.
If Kabam ever wondered what a digital dumpster fire full of depends at a retirement home looked like, check the "recent discussions" in the forums. Its almost 2 pages of complaints about this event. Happy 10 years.
Echt Schade, das wir eine so schlechte Droprate erhalten für die Units und das Geld, was investiert wurde, dafür hat man sich eindeutig besseres Inventar erhofft. Da muss man echt darüber nachdenken, hier weiterhin Geld zu investieren.
Remembering the last stream and all the hype, just reminds me of infomercials on QVC, the comment that still echoes in my head is seeing TBs with r3s.. well you might have hit the goal. Piss off a lot of the players just to have a few lazy TBs that won't beat act 6 spend thousands of units on banquet. How is it possible to completely butcher a highly anticipated event is beyond me
Its mind blowing and they need to fix it badly and its the weekend so i hope they bring info later but again weekend and winter break now i imagine meaning will we actually hear anything
Hearing back is the last of my interest at this point. What are they gonna say?... "We listen and we will try to do better"? This is supposed to be the better compared to last year.
Just something like give everyone at this point 300 crystals not like u will get much anyway
One way would be to rebuild the crystal and send a per Crystal compensation to all who opened those superior banquet crystals 🤷♂️
Just tell us the banquet is suspended for 2-3 days, in order to review and rework that part of event. Rework the crystal to better the rewards and their drop rate
Your expectations of them fixing this are way too high. I just won't spend a dime anymore, and its not out of spite or anger, this game is just not worth the investment anymore. I mean what's the point when all they do is events where the 3rd progression level gets the most and that is INTENDED. I might as well grind arenas and stay still in the game, that way i can get rewarded. Who knows maybe next year we will see TBs and Paragons with r4s and that's the next goal...
My thing was more on if u saw peoples openings where 300 crystals isnt gonna be gamebreaking at all, but i get they cant do that but i still think the contents badly need to be fixed and something needs to be done since its called GRAND banquet if they didnt call it grand it probs wouldn’t be so bad on what we get.
We see some of you are disappointed with the Superior Banquet Crystals
Our intention was to improve the experience over last year's event, and feel we have succeeded in that goal.
If you saw we were disappointed then how do yall think you succeeded in improving our experience over last year. These two statement contradict each other im not following
The biggest disappointment is for us Valliant players!!! Why are we sharing chrystals with TBs??? That's super unfair and as a Valliant player I don't want to spend 300 units to get t6cc or 7* shards!? I can get them in BG store!! I've been grinding and saving units for nothing!
We see some of you are disappointed with the Superior Banquet Crystals
Our intention was to improve the experience over last year's event, and feel we have succeeded in that goal.
If you saw we were disappointed then how do yall think you succeeded in improving our experience over last year. These two statement contradict each other im not following
I think one of the biggest issue is the lack of 7* shards or full crystals ( basic and titan ). You hyped this event soooo much but opening catalyst fragments isn’t exciting at all, even the t7b fragments because the pourcentage is so meager we know it’s going to be useless for a long time. It’s opening champion crystals that has always been the most exciting thing in this game.
Speaking of t7b a really sad aspect of this event in my opinion is that compared to last year were firsts 7r3 were obtained by hard rewarding content ( and you were quite proud of saying that ) this year the 7r4 are hidden behind the biggest paywall in any free to play game because of the way it’s structured and it prolongs the irl socio-economic inequalities in the game. Where we all start at the same point and all that should matter is skill and knowledge.
I have opened 122 Superior Banquet Crystals and I am very disappointed. It appears most people are if they are end game players. I honestly do not believe that you will do anything about it but you could save this event by doing something more for people who have opened crystals but I have a suggestions for you that could make you happy and us the players happy. You would want to do this right away. Make an Announcement that you will be sending out generous "Thank You Packages" at the end of the event. These packages would be dependent on how many crystals each person have opened up. Let people know ahead of time what the cut offs were for each level of open will get you there. This will push people who may want to get to the next level. These "Thank You Packages" would be rank dependent, you have to stop lumping in all TB, Paragon and Valiant in the same group. They are very different players at different levels and have different needs. This reason could possibly why they SBC feel so bad for me. I understand you will not make any changes but know that this Grand Banquet is going to go down as a Fail.
On a side note. Thank you for making a great game that I have loved playing for nearly a decade and will continue to play. Thank you and hopefully there will be another 10 Years of playing this game.
As the anger this situation created fades and leaves behind a bitter and sour taste, I want to leave a few words here as a piece of minuscule constructive criticism.
I’ve spent tens of thousands of dollars each year on this game. I wanted to support the hard work and thought that goes into creating it. Being a software developer myself, I always wanted to believe Kabam had good intentions despite the past community outcries. In previous banquet events, I always received something decent that softened the blow. As a whale, Jessica Jones and other trophy champs filled that role for me.
This banquet was nothing but a slap in the face. After spending on 200 crystals, maybe more, all I got was coal. Actual coal. Yes, I received some shards and fragments, but there were no champion selectors, no trophy champs, and no full crystals. Nothing of value. Nothing that could have made me feel like my money was well spent. For the first time, I truly feel scammed. I feel cheated.
If this is the direction you are going, it will not go unnoticed. It will destroy your image in the long term. For the first time, I genuinely wanted a refund. This is coming from someone who spent $7,000 on Dazzler and Isophyne crystals. Those were better than these pathetic 300-credit crystals giving me 5k T6CC or 1.5k 7-star shards. How dare you call this a “grand event” when it feels like nothing but a cheap scam from a street con artist.
I don’t know how you can make this right after pulling the same stunt last year. You pretended to listen to the community, promised that future banquets would improve, and still delivered this failure of an event. Calling this event a success in your message is delusional, insulting, and shows just how disconnected you are. You must be blind to the bitterness this is creating. At this point, I feel nothing but resentment toward your company and this game. I want to quit, but after investing so much time and money, I won’t. However, starting this year, I am going free-to-play because you do not deserve another cent of my hard-earned money.
Do whatever you want with this feedback. The damage is done.
We just wanted to take a moment and address some of the concerns around our Banquet event this year as we see some of you are disappointed with the Superior Banquet Crystals in particular.
We wanted to move more of the rewards to the milestones, while keeping 7-star relevant rewards in the crystals as you build up your tracks in the various milestones between solo and alliance-based events. Our intention was to improve the experience over last year's event, and feel we have succeeded in that goal.
That being said, we want to make sure the game team sees and hears you, so please leave your constructive feedback on what you’d like to see changed.
Some ??? 98% of your player base is absolutely fuming righteously !!! You took 365 days of grinding/saving up units and threw it out the window. We show you our loyalty by logging in every day and in return you go and slap people in the face ??? 1% chance drop rate on a 6* AWAKENING GEM in the GREATER BANQUET CRYSTAL ??? On the 10th ANNIVERSARY of the game ??? Seriously ??? You should be giving some away for free at this point... You guys are cheap beyond belief after you made millions on your players !!! Shame on you.
I think this banquet event has shown how far Kabam is from understanding their community. The focus of the last couple of years has clearly shifted towards monetizing the game, getting the most profit per player, and not to make the game fair and enjoyable for different progression levels. It's not about the skill and knowledge anymore but how much spare money you're ready to waste on this game. Titles are not achiements anymore. Worst banquet event ever Christmas mood is below zero. Favorite game that I've been playing for 6 years seems like an abyss to burn money.
If we actually hear anything back, I'd be very surprised.
As the anger this situation created fades and leaves behind a bitter and sour taste, I want to leave a few words here as a piece of minuscule constructive criticism.
I’ve spent tens of thousands of dollars each year on this game. I wanted to support the hard work and thought that goes into creating it. Being a software developer myself, I always wanted to believe Kabam had good intentions despite the past community outcries. In previous banquet events, I always received something decent that softened the blow. As a whale, Jessica Jones and other trophy champs filled that role for me.
This banquet was nothing but a slap in the face. After spending on 200 crystals, maybe more, all I got was coal. Actual coal. Yes, I received some shards and fragments, but there were no champion selectors, no trophy champs, and no full crystals. Nothing of value. Nothing that could have made me feel like my money was well spent. For the first time, I truly feel scammed. I feel cheated.
If this is the direction you are going, it will not go unnoticed. It will destroy your image in the long term. For the first time, I genuinely wanted a refund. This is coming from someone who spent $7,000 on Dazzler and Isophyne crystals. Those were better than these pathetic 300-credit crystals giving me 5k T6CC or 1.5k 7-star shards. How dare you call this a “grand event” when it feels like nothing but a cheap scam from a street con artist.
I don’t know how you can make this right after pulling the same stunt last year. You pretended to listen to the community, promised that future banquets would improve, and still delivered this failure of an event. Calling this event a success in your message is delusional, insulting, and shows just how disconnected you are. You must be blind to the bitterness this is creating. At this point, I feel nothing but resentment toward your company and this game. I want to quit, but after investing so much time and money, I won’t. However, starting this year, I am going free-to-play because you do not deserve another cent of my hard-earned money.
Do whatever you want with this feedback. The damage is done.
We saw the kabam Kon in full force. The Grand Scam Banquit event. All 4 dudes on the livestream should be ashamed of themselves for scamming us out of our money. That was the greatest Grift of ALL time
We just wanted to take a moment and address some of the concerns around our Banquet event this year as we see some of you are disappointed with the Superior Banquet Crystals in particular.
We wanted to move more of the rewards to the milestones, while keeping 7-star relevant rewards in the crystals as you build up your tracks in the various milestones between solo and alliance-based events. Our intention was to improve the experience over last year's event, and feel we have succeeded in that goal.
That being said, we want to make sure the game team sees and hears you, so please leave your constructive feedback on what you’d like to see changed.
It has been absolutely amazing so far I'm a cavalier player and I got 5 new 7* and 4 6* on rank 4 and pulled Hercules and duped him .
I think this banquet event has shown how far Kabam is from understanding their community. The focus of the last couple of years has clearly shifted towards monetizing the game, getting the most profit per player, and not to make the game fair and enjoyable for different progression levels. It's not about the skill and knowledge anymore but how much spare money you're ready to waste on this game. Titles are not achiements anymore. Worst banquet event ever Christmas mood is below zero. Favorite game that I've been playing for 6 years seems like an abyss to burn money.
If we actually hear anything back, I'd be very surprised.
But they recently got an award for best community... Even if it was in an event they sponsored....
We just wanted to take a moment and address some of the concerns around our Banquet event this year as we see some of you are disappointed with the Superior Banquet Crystals in particular.
We wanted to move more of the rewards to the milestones, while keeping 7-star relevant rewards in the crystals as you build up your tracks in the various milestones between solo and alliance-based events. Our intention was to improve the experience over last year's event, and feel we have succeeded in that goal.
That being said, we want to make sure the game team sees and hears you, so please leave your constructive feedback on what you’d like to see changed.
First, I’m tired of these realm events. I don’t enjoy doing my part and then having to wait and hope others do theirs…. The realm rewards weren’t even that great. You guys based too much of the rewards on the Gifted Guardians. What happens if we don’t actually care about most of the gifted guardians and don’t get the one or two we actually wanted? Then, the awakening gem and sig stones are kinda useless unless we spend a couple hundred bucks on odins for more keys…. AFTER spending HUNDREDS to max the milestone. NOT COOL.
My BIGGEST issue by far is how criminal those SBC are. 70+ and I’ve gotten basically anything I could just get in the BG store, for cheaper. T6cc FRAGMENTS, basic FRAGMENTS, barely any crystal shards, abhorrent drop rate on champion selectors, keys, bigger chunks of crystal shards and even the t7b felts like a losing Crystal pull. I received around 2k t7b shards, YAY only 58 THOUSAND to go to form ONE. Felt lovely wasting units on that. WITHOUT A DOUBT felt like more then 70% filler.
Why are those low 7* shard amounts even in there? The scaling for the amount of shards is insane. Also the VERY little amount of 7* shards given per crystal felt really bad….
Where are all the Titan shards? I received barely ANY for 17K Units.
I’ve been robbed before and it felt better than the robbery that occurred yesterday.
Disappointment you find, where expectations were set. In the case of the banquet there are 2 main causes: 1. Expectations created by Kabam , by what and how they communicated 2. But also very important: Expectations created by us, the summoners. We always create an image in our head of what we think we are owed, and in this specific case hyping ourselves up because it's a 10 year anniversary.
I don't think the solution is in "better" or different rewards, but in managing said expectations: 1. Kabam could try to not fuel hypes too much 2. We as summoners could try to tone down our entitlement
I wish you all happiness and good health for the holidays and coming year.
Wow. Reading all this has me more upset than I was after spending my 16k units for mostly gold and cat fragments.
I feel this is more Kabam psychological manipulation of us. They’ve already stated that they’re pleased with how things have gone although “some” summoners are not happy. They believe providing us with this space to air our grievances may offer a cathartic release of our frustration while deluding us to believe voicing our frustrations will lead to some attempt at resolution from Kabam. They won’t do anything. This same thing happened last year, and they promised it would be better this time. It’s not. It’s all lies. The event started on a Friday so they can avoid us over the weekend while no one at Kabam works on weekends. They hope we will cool down and move on. They give us this area to voice our displeasure like they’ll do something to assuage our disappointment. They won’t. They’ve already said they’re happy with how it’s gone.
And really what are they going to do to make this right? - Give us all our units back?? That’s the only thing that would satisfy us but zero chance for that. - Open up the highest level rewards to everyone in the realm event?? That would irk those of us who spent the units to qualify for those rewards if they give them away to everyone after the fact. - Provide a promo code for bonus rewards?? This doesn’t seem fair to those who spent a greater amount of units. Why should someone who spent 50 units get the same rewards as I do having spent 16,000 units?? - Redo the crystals to improve the drop rates of the better items?? Again, how will this help those of us who have already spent all of our units on the event?? This will generate even more resentment.
I’ve played this game since it was introduced. I’ve been looking for a reason to leave for a while. I will see how the “team” responds. Maybe it’ll be the final push for me to walk away. I’m honestly not even sure they’ll read any of our comments anyways.
I hated this specific sig stones! 40 or 70 of them and probably never will get a dup of 1 of 6 champs is disappointing as hell. Why they aren’t generics?
I'm certain this is already shared earlier in the thread, but a review of the drop rates seems prudent. +30% for t6 catalysts seems significantly high given the rest of the options in the crystal. There is enough evidence across the community showing that it is causing crystals to be fairly static in offerings with occasional drops of other items.
Given this %, it's difficult for Valiants to justify spending any units or money for that resource. When you can get a similar resource in the Battlegrounds store for trophy tokens, there's just no incentive to spend additional on a random chance crystal with awful drop rates.
I'll agree the realm milestones may be good, though if you're not spending units that won't be a channel to get anything. I like the 'thank you' package idea earlier in the thread as a gesture for the community.
With how poor the drop rates are, it would have been much better to have gold or iso, then “prize 1” and “prize 2” be the same, so we have the possibility of getting some exciting. Very underwhelming event.
so please leave your constructive feedback on what you’d like to see changed.
You can not possibly change anything now. Don't lie and pretend like theres something in your reach to make it better now, we dont care about "next year GIFTING EVENT" changes.
I raked in rank up materials and 7*s. I'm happy with it. A lot of people in this online community are just way too negative. Be thankful for what you have.
70 crystals, roughly 16K units for T6CC and handful of 7 star shards. That sums up the entire banquet for me.
I remember a comment from Kabam Crashed when was asked to choose between cyber deals and Banquet, he pointed out Cyber deals as preferred as that's more guarantee, should have seen the fine line and listen.
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Milestones are done in solo and alliance and I’ve got enough points for the 7* isosphere.
Lacklustre event
I am recently paragon and have a few 7*s but all rank 1.
I spent about 9-10k units on SBC and have received pretty much all the rewards from crystals and milestones I'm going to (essentially the 10 year grand banquet event is now over for me within the hour).
I have managed 4-5 new 7*s 2k titan shards. Only one of note which was serpent. Many many t6c shards and yes while this at my level will help me, for the investment it has been a massive and underwhelming disappointment.
I remember someone from kabam had said that we could see Thronebreakers with r3 7*s. Well from all the rewards I'm nowhere near a r3.
What a complete disappointment of an event.
Shame.
Happy 10 years.
Speaking of t7b a really sad aspect of this event in my opinion is that compared to last year were firsts 7r3 were obtained by hard rewarding content ( and you were quite proud of saying that ) this year the 7r4 are hidden behind the biggest paywall in any free to play game because of the way it’s structured and it prolongs the irl socio-economic inequalities in the game. Where we all start at the same point and all that should matter is skill and knowledge.
I honestly do not believe that you will do anything about it but you could save this event by doing something more for people who have opened crystals but I have a suggestions for you that could make you happy and us the players happy.
You would want to do this right away.
Make an Announcement that you will be sending out generous "Thank You Packages" at the end of the event. These packages would be dependent on how many crystals each person have opened up. Let people know ahead of time what the cut offs were for each level of open will get you there. This will push people who may want to get to the next level.
These "Thank You Packages" would be rank dependent, you have to stop lumping in all TB, Paragon and Valiant in the same group. They are very different players at different levels and have different needs. This reason could possibly why they SBC feel so bad for me.
I understand you will not make any changes but know that this Grand Banquet is going to go down as a Fail.
On a side note. Thank you for making a great game that I have loved playing for nearly a decade and will continue to play. Thank you and hopefully there will be another 10 Years of playing this game.
I’ve spent tens of thousands of dollars each year on this game. I wanted to support the hard work and thought that goes into creating it. Being a software developer myself, I always wanted to believe Kabam had good intentions despite the past community outcries. In previous banquet events, I always received something decent that softened the blow. As a whale, Jessica Jones and other trophy champs filled that role for me.
This banquet was nothing but a slap in the face. After spending on 200 crystals, maybe more, all I got was coal. Actual coal. Yes, I received some shards and fragments, but there were no champion selectors, no trophy champs, and no full crystals. Nothing of value. Nothing that could have made me feel like my money was well spent. For the first time, I truly feel scammed. I feel cheated.
If this is the direction you are going, it will not go unnoticed. It will destroy your image in the long term. For the first time, I genuinely wanted a refund. This is coming from someone who spent $7,000 on Dazzler and Isophyne crystals. Those were better than these pathetic 300-credit crystals giving me 5k T6CC or 1.5k 7-star shards. How dare you call this a “grand event” when it feels like nothing but a cheap scam from a street con artist.
I don’t know how you can make this right after pulling the same stunt last year. You pretended to listen to the community, promised that future banquets would improve, and still delivered this failure of an event. Calling this event a success in your message is delusional, insulting, and shows just how disconnected you are. You must be blind to the bitterness this is creating. At this point, I feel nothing but resentment toward your company and this game. I want to quit, but after investing so much time and money, I won’t. However, starting this year, I am going free-to-play because you do not deserve another cent of my hard-earned money.
Do whatever you want with this feedback. The damage is done.
If we actually hear anything back, I'd be very surprised.
My BIGGEST issue by far is how criminal those SBC are. 70+ and I’ve gotten basically anything I could just get in the BG store, for cheaper. T6cc FRAGMENTS, basic FRAGMENTS, barely any crystal shards, abhorrent drop rate on champion selectors, keys, bigger chunks of crystal shards and even the t7b felts like a losing Crystal pull. I received around 2k t7b shards, YAY only 58 THOUSAND to go to form ONE. Felt lovely wasting units on that. WITHOUT A DOUBT felt like more then 70% filler.
Why are those low 7* shard amounts even in there? The scaling for the amount of shards is insane. Also the VERY little amount of 7* shards given per crystal felt really bad….
Where are all the Titan shards? I received barely ANY for 17K Units.
I’ve been robbed before and it felt better than the robbery that occurred yesterday.
Disappointment you find, where expectations were set.
In the case of the banquet there are 2 main causes:
1. Expectations created by Kabam , by what and how they communicated
2. But also very important: Expectations created by us, the summoners. We always create an image in our head of what we think we are owed, and in this specific case hyping ourselves up because it's a 10 year anniversary.
I don't think the solution is in "better" or different rewards, but in managing said expectations:
1. Kabam could try to not fuel hypes too much
2. We as summoners could try to tone down our entitlement
I wish you all happiness and good health for the holidays and coming year.
I feel this is more Kabam psychological manipulation of us. They’ve already stated that they’re pleased with how things have gone although “some” summoners are not happy. They believe providing us with this space to air our grievances may offer a cathartic release of our frustration while deluding us to believe voicing our frustrations will lead to some attempt at resolution from Kabam. They won’t do anything. This same thing happened last year, and they promised it would be better this time. It’s not. It’s all lies. The event started on a Friday so they can avoid us over the weekend while no one at Kabam works on weekends. They hope we will cool down and move on. They give us this area to voice our displeasure like they’ll do something to assuage our disappointment. They won’t. They’ve already said they’re happy with how it’s gone.
And really what are they going to do to make this right?
- Give us all our units back?? That’s the only thing that would satisfy us but zero chance for that.
- Open up the highest level rewards to everyone in the realm event?? That would irk those of us who spent the units to qualify for those rewards if they give them away to everyone after the fact.
- Provide a promo code for bonus rewards?? This doesn’t seem fair to those who spent a greater amount of units. Why should someone who spent 50 units get the same rewards as I do having spent 16,000 units??
- Redo the crystals to improve the drop rates of the better items?? Again, how will this help those of us who have already spent all of our units on the event?? This will generate even more resentment.
I’ve played this game since it was introduced. I’ve been looking for a reason to leave for a while. I will see how the “team” responds. Maybe it’ll be the final push for me to walk away. I’m honestly not even sure they’ll read any of our comments anyways.
Why they aren’t generics?
Given this %, it's difficult for Valiants to justify spending any units or money for that resource. When you can get a similar resource in the Battlegrounds store for trophy tokens, there's just no incentive to spend additional on a random chance crystal with awful drop rates.
I'll agree the realm milestones may be good, though if you're not spending units that won't be a channel to get anything. I like the 'thank you' package idea earlier in the thread as a gesture for the community.
I remember a comment from Kabam Crashed when was asked to choose between cyber deals and Banquet, he pointed out Cyber deals as preferred as that's more guarantee, should have seen the fine line and listen.