Maybe it’s just time to end livestreams

Chuck_FinleyChuck_Finley Member Posts: 1,317 ★★★★★
edited December 21 in General Discussion
Counter to driving everyone to them with promo codes and twitch livestream giveaways…. Just end them. A large percentage of the issues with this event is the inability to communicate realistic expectations in these streams. Just let events speak for themselves.

Limit other communications to clarification of objectives in content and start dates of events. That’s it, we don’t need QVC infomercials that creates excitement for a product that is subpar.
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  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 7,202 ★★★★★
    I dont think they need to end live streams as the info from them are great but when we get big events i think they should disclose the contents of the crystal and the drop rates
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,149 ★★★★★
    BringPopcorn said:

    I would like to see a livestream of them reading all the recent posts in the forums...

    I second this.
  • BKSwisherSweetBKSwisherSweet Member Posts: 167 ★★
    99% bros hype for MCoC, 1% important info and 100% fast forward to gimme the god damn promo code already.
  • captain_rogerscaptain_rogers Member Posts: 10,149 ★★★★★
    BringPopcorn said:

    captain_rogers said:

    I'm sad to say this, but they really need to hire another "experienced" Community manager like jax. No offense to current managers, they are doing great, but they don't really convey the info clearly like jax did. Maybe livestreams aren't their cup of tea, then hire someone who has experience conducting livestreams.

    On the contrary, they did great.. 4 beloved people selling this trash?.. We actually bought it....
    If the motive was to sugarcoat and sell a underwhelming event, they sure did a great job.
  • Giantwalrus56Giantwalrus56 Member Posts: 1,082 ★★★★
    edited December 21
    Eb0ny-O-M4w said:

    They just have to short the live streams to 1/4 of what they waste and find better people to presenting them. The last one was a torture to watch because they pretended they were talking to a bunch of 5yo kids


    I completely agree. Individually, they are good at what they do. In regards to the last stream, I got a feeling they knew something was off & they overcompensated to not give it away. Except for that marvel hype guy. I'd rather eat a light bulb than see that guy again
  • ErcarretErcarret Member Posts: 2,980 ★★★★★
    I agree that a lot of the disappointment could have been solved with better communication. What I don't agree with is that ending the livestreams would lead to better communication.

    Also keep in mind that Kabam tried to "just let the event speak for itself" by not releasing any info about it until the community kicked up enough of a fuss about it that they released the info just a few days before the event started. I think that was a bad move on their part, but asking for more of that non-communication will not solve any problems.

    Plus, I like the livestreams in general.
  • MrSakuragiMrSakuragi Member Posts: 5,673 ★★★★★
    Eb0ny-O-M4w said:

    They just have to short the live streams to 1/4 of what they waste and find better people to presenting them. The last one was a torture to watch because they pretended they were talking to a bunch of 5yo kids

    Yep. Jax was good at the streams, seems like they were maybe his idea. Whatever that last stream was… was not it.
  • ESFESF Member Posts: 2,045 ★★★★★
    No, ending them isn't the answer. Not at all -- people pay ACTUAL MONEY in this game. REAL MONEY.

    Having a dedicated livestream is something that absolutely should be happening. If anything, it should happen more often.

    I am totally serious -- YouTubers/Content Creators do a great job of filling in so much information.

    But what would really help this game and community is for Kabam to slow down and realize the value of producing 20-30 minutes daily of highly focused information on YouTube.

    People truly want to know what's going on. How the events and side quests ACTUALLY WORK. How to play characters properly. How nodes are supposed to interact. Why buffs happen or don't happen.

    People want to know that stuff and more.

    But it's like so few people understand how massive this game is, how complicated it can feel, that we're just left to figure it out and hope that someone on YouTube drops a video that helps you, when the reality should be that Kabam carves out time for their community managers to do 20-30 minutes on YouTube each day to explain this freaking game better
  • JackTheSnackJackTheSnack Member Posts: 852 ★★★
    I definitely won’t be wasting almost 2 hours to watch another after the hype surrounding this event and the major letdown
  • ESFESF Member Posts: 2,045 ★★★★★
    Take the change to the Buff Program, for instance -- one of the concepts discussed in the post is how the buffed characters aren't having the impact, aren't being embraced, by as many players as they should.

    That's exactly what I am talking about -- that's where players need Kabam to take a deep breath and have an actual person talk to the players, not show a DPS loop but actually go over the buff and how it's supposed to work -- so people can get excited.

    This game has SO MANY CHARACTERS. So many things to do and keep in mind.

    It would be really nice to have a focused -- not jokes, not playing around, FOCUSED -- place to go to where someone from the Community Management side of the house explains how it all is supposed to work together
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 826 ★★★
    What a dumb horrible take. People would have been disappointed with this banquet regardless of the Livestream. Mcoc players get disappointed and rant about free stuff. You really think they're going to not get disappointed about an event where they spend a lot of units just because of a lack of Livestream?
  • Fit_Fun9329Fit_Fun9329 Member Posts: 2,204 ★★★★★
    MrSakuragi said:

    Eb0ny-O-M4w said:

    They just have to short the live streams to 1/4 of what they waste and find better people to presenting them. The last one was a torture to watch because they pretended they were talking to a bunch of 5yo kids

    Yep. Jax was good at the streams, seems like they were maybe his idea. Whatever that last stream was… was not it.
    It was his idea. I can’t remember where I heard this but it was Jax who wanted to push livestreams through. I think he confirmed that in one of his last streams
  • AegonTargarуenAegonTargarуen Member Posts: 83 ★
    edited December 21
    They just need to stop overhype their stuff
  • SkunkcabbageSkunkcabbage Member Posts: 241 ★★★
    captain_rogers said:

    I'm sad to say this, but they really need to hire another "experienced" Community manager like jax. No offense to current managers, they are doing great, but they don't really convey the info clearly like jax did. Maybe livestreams aren't their cup of tea, then hire someone who has experience conducting livestreams.

    I really enjoyed the Jax led ones, I haven't been able to watch the last 2 or 3 unfortunately it's uncomfortable.
  • Razor_360Razor_360 Member Posts: 34 ★
    Well, this game is a casino and we're the gamblers. Think Las Vegas. Open to everyone, but only specific marketing tailored to addicts telling dreams sold on a string by the devil. They are aware we are suckers for free rewards and who wouldnt want an opportunity for a new champ that nobody else does? its FOMO. Again. The issue isnt the medium, its the wording used to communicate intention that lights up a spark in every player. I appreciate Kabam for its transparency in caring about customer values unlike a conglomerate such as EA, but it seems that the more power is granted, the more tone deaf they become to the community. Only when a boycott is threatened does change happen. I hope this doesnt get taken down because I am not targeting anyone, just the hard truth
  • GrabmeMCOCGrabmeMCOC Member Posts: 26 ★
    They should just release promo Videos and pre-recorded info drops.

    Dave gets hounded by trolls every stream and the expectancy levels are atrocious. Not to mention the racist/sexist comments in the chat and chat bot spammers.
  • WednesdayLengthWednesdayLength Member Posts: 1,706 ★★★★
    ESF said:

    Take the change to the Buff Program, for instance -- one of the concepts discussed in the post is how the buffed characters aren't having the impact, aren't being embraced, by as many players as they should.

    That's exactly what I am talking about -- that's where players need Kabam to take a deep breath and have an actual person talk to the players, not show a DPS loop but actually go over the buff and how it's supposed to work -- so people can get excited.

    This game has SO MANY CHARACTERS. So many things to do and keep in mind.

    It would be really nice to have a focused -- not jokes, not playing around, FOCUSED -- place to go to where someone from the Community Management side of the house explains how it all is supposed to work together

    Dll literally does this
  • ESFESF Member Posts: 2,045 ★★★★★
    WednesdayLength said:

    ESF said:

    Take the change to the Buff Program, for instance -- one of the concepts discussed in the post is how the buffed characters aren't having the impact, aren't being embraced, by as many players as they should.

    That's exactly what I am talking about -- that's where players need Kabam to take a deep breath and have an actual person talk to the players, not show a DPS loop but actually go over the buff and how it's supposed to work -- so people can get excited.

    This game has SO MANY CHARACTERS. So many things to do and keep in mind.

    It would be really nice to have a focused -- not jokes, not playing around, FOCUSED -- place to go to where someone from the Community Management side of the house explains how it all is supposed to work together

    Dll literally does this
    Yes -- I have seen a few of them. That's what I mean by someone taking a deep breath and understanding the scope of what we're talking about.

    DLL has about 4800 subscribers to his YT channel.

    Marvel Contest of Champions has...386,000.

    Fold DLL's content into the MCoC channel. Tell people those 386,000 subscribers who he is -- because clearly, not enough people are seeing what he is doing or know who he is enough to track his releases.

    This game should communicate MORE. More often. More clearly.

    There's so many good things -- does a 1:30 second BPCW buff video on the MCoC channel accomplish a goal? Sure. It explains it.

    It's not wrong.

    But does it do enough to get people excited?
  • ESFESF Member Posts: 2,045 ★★★★★
    For example: I don't really know who the YouTuber Nagase is -- I totally understand that he is a very good player. Which is awesome. This game is only helped by good players who understand how to create content and post it for everyone to see -- I can't do that. I am a B- player on my best day and don't have the technical expertise to create those kind of videos.

    But I was just messing around the other day and randomly saw a suggestion for Nagase's BPCW video that he posted recently, and my gosh. MIND BLOWN

    The answer for this game shouldn't ALWAYS be "follow random Content Creators on YouTube in order to get excited," or "hope the algorithm points me in the direction of something good"

    I have said it before: I am an old, old gamer. Played these things since forever ago.

    MCoC...there are days when I sit here and shake my head and think that it is just crazy HOW MUCH IS ACTUALLY IN THIS GAME.

    If you want to just swipe and tap, you can absolutely do that. Grind some Arena, grab some units, open a crystal here and there.

    But if you want to do more than that and start getting into it?

    The amount of information you need to consume in order to GIT GUD is just off the charts.

    IF IF IF this game hits PC properly, it could EASILY last another 10 years -- but it is going to need some help from Kabam to assist people in understanding how much depth and how great this game is, once you do get into it

  • TBKlannTBKlann Member Posts: 76 ★
    If they had announced the drop rates and other details ahead of time they could have gotten feedback from the community and made changes rather than **** on the community with what they released and have to deal with a mass of ticked off players. The live streams can be good or bad, they obviously just don't understand how to use it properly.
  • OrtounOrtoun Member Posts: 889 ★★★★
    Average_Desi said:

    What a dumb horrible take. People would have been disappointed with this banquet regardless of the Livestream. Mcoc players get disappointed and rant about free stuff. You really think they're going to not get disappointed about an event where they spend a lot of units just because of a lack of Livestream?

    I think it would be less bad if people didn't feel lied to on top of the event being garbage.
  • KiptonadeKiptonade Member Posts: 240 ★★★
    The last one was totally cringe inducing. I think they’d really benefit from a news style content on YouTube where they can edit and do post production. I’d be curious to see what numbers they’d pull without the lure of promo codes or the false advertisement of twitch drop rewards.
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