Carina's 10 Year Challenge by a *well-below average reverse control valiant?

willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 4,960 ★★★★★
Everyone max boosted most of the time with mystic damage boost too, all with 6* relics
Wong r3 duped
Hulkbuster r3
Sentry 6r4 [had ascension dust if needed and could r5]
Wiccan r7 duped
Adam Warlock r4a [took to r5 during event]

Notes: Sentry was absolutely useless. Maybe I play him wrong, but I couldn’t get enough damage to solo a fight [not even close] so I would lose a persistent charge. Also, it was too hard to gain his solar flares or whatever as they would fall off before I could get to 20 or whatever was needed. So I didn’t use him [practiced on Titania and Odin, but still took him just in case something came up. It never did.

Notes 2: Warlock was my MVP. I would have been stuck without him [Psycho-man fight and, most importantly, Phase 3 GM]. Never used him before, but took hi to r5 once at Psycho-Man and seeing how Wong wasn’t the easiest.

Notes 3: Don’t throw sp3 against Guardian with Wong. You get a bug.

Notes 3: I had a difficult time getting a solo with Titania with a r2 unboosted Wong, so I decided to wait until Banquet to see if I could r3 him. Made a compete difference. You can take MANY combos to face due to the higher health pool and heal it back up. Ihad also never used wong before this, but he is able to learn on the fly. Read Grootman’s Wonger’s rotation [https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/383165/new-challengers-approaching-my-10-year-carina-challenge-guide#latest]. I mostly did 3 orange, 3 green then 3 blue.

All fights were about 10 minutes

Followed Grootman’s guide, who did the Guardian path instead of Apoc. Apoc path might have been easier, but still not a problem.

Trap node: Tranquilize on Parry – I actually had no problem parrying so it was fine.
Titania: solo Wong - Just watch the dash backs so you don’t get too many weaknesses. When she starts to root you, I would often take the special to the face if she was in unblockable mode and just heal back up. Yay for r3 health pools.

Vision: solo Wong – I thought it would be hard, but Vision did a good job of always throwing his specials. I got him very close to 3 bars several times, but he would throw them at the last second.

Omega Sentinel: solo Wong – I would get stunned and damaged, but r3 Wong would heal back nicely. I also didn’t have to just bait sp1 because Wong would gain back health so easily.

Airwalker: solo Wong – Just make sure you BLOCK his specials, don’t dex, and watch his timer. He did gain his galactus buff two or three times, but still got him down.

Captain Britain: 1 revive Wong: You can heal the damage back nicely, even when you are hit by a special, EXCEPT when she has 25 prowess. That’s what killed me.

Wiccan: Wong solo – Wiccan healed five times, but still was able to get the solo. You take no damage with all the spells going, and you heal nicely. Do try to get him to throw sp2 though and not sp1. The timer was close on this one due to Wiccan healing more than I would have liked.

Psycho-Man: 1 Wong death, 4 Warlock fights [so three revives] – I couldn’t get Wong to cooperate, so I stopped midway to research and learn warlock. He just did amazing for this fight, and I can’t even tell you why as I’m not Warlock connoisseur.

NOTE: I went Guardian instead of Apoc because I don’t like fighting Apoc nor Tigra, though I think Wong’s duped ability helps with their trap node.

New Trap Node: must have different combo enders or you get autoblocked. For these fights, I would often build up to sp3 as you get one of each spell, then go orange, green, blue. Just not for Guardian as I found out. To keep the spell I wanted, I just didn’t finish a five hit combo so they wouldn’t autoblock.

Guardian: 1 revive Wong due to bug – If you throw a sp3, then you get the gray screen Spiderham and Nimrod. So I died and healed up. Otherwise, fight wasn’t too bad. For this one, I built up 2 orange, two green, then did the rest of the spells when I could. Be sure to heavy while unstoppable so he doesn’t auto-block you. You can survive a sp2 also when blocking, even if he has massive shield charges.

Valk: 1 team revive, one Wong – I read Grootman’s guide and he did Warlock. I couldn’t get it going so I tried Wong. He did great. You just have to remember to hit her block as her specials are free only with passives pierces, which are gained when hitting her block. About halfway through the fight, I realized I could trigger her auto-block when needed by using the trap node, which gave her the pierce needed, and then could heal back the damage I took from getting smacked in the face.

Red Guardian: solo Wong – Easy fight. I went with 3 oranges first instead of sp3 this time.

Sam: solo Wong: Like Guardian, be sure to fire sp2 while heavy to gain the unblockable. This makes his use his armor ups to auto-block, which then fails since it’s unblockable. I think the sap charges affected Wong’s power gain, but I don’t really knw what those do anyways. Don’t be afraid of hitting his block and gaining rupture damage as you’ll heal it back. Just don’t let him get to sp2.

Dragon Man: solo Wong – I can’t remember if I did sp3 or three oranges first. I did restart two times without healing. My idea was to get the power gain to disappear by having max pacify, parrying right before his power charge activated, and hoping that the pacify would disable it. It finally happened on try three when Dragon Man was at 48% health. I started at 25% and ended up at 100%. The first two tries he held his sp3, but the last try he was much more cooperative.

CAIW – one revive Wong: I wasn’t the best at managing his charges. I got concussion like 4 times, and he killed me when he was at 19% health. Finished with Warlock.

Nova: solo Wong – if you read my other necro guides, you would have noticed that I spent like 70 revives all together on my 3 runs against Nova. Wong made him super easy.

Nameless GM – everyone, 40+ revives and heals [had to but the very last one for 40 units]: I brought HB for this fight. After remembering how to play against him [ I still get clipped often by sp1], everything went fine until phase 3 – reverse controls. I tried everything, but nothing worked. I had always used Aegon before and just brute forced it. However, I couldn’t brute force it with Wong, HB, Sentry [who was useless this necro run]. So I thought with all of my spare revives, I’ll just have to brute force him. I thought Wiccan might be good, and I would just heal up and take the 2% damage until he died. However, after several attempts, I realized I’ll use Warlock. Since he can go unblockable, I’ll just wail on him until I die. I forgot that Warlock gives him taunt, which lead to GM reliably throwing his special after being attacked, which meant I could dodge it sometimes. Warlock would be able to take off 1% to my best run, 7%, this way. I don’t know how people do this with prompts, or how I’m going to do it with Nameless champs. Phase 4 is easy for most. To reach the sp3, I revived Wong, died with him, brought in Wicca. Since Wong’s ability gives the next champion 1 bar of power, I only had to really gain two bars instead of three.

TL;DR – Bring Warlock for GM if you stink at reverse controls and will have to revive and brute force it. A r3 boosted Wong [especially duped] is very forgiving, even when you take combos and specials to the face. Just not a 25 prowess Captain Britain.

And I got my Incursion Incinerator profile pic and title during the run, but still seeking more Battlerealm Besties. Also, back to carrying people in incursions since everything else is done again.

Comments

  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 833 ★★★
    40 revives on gm 😳😳
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 833 ★★★
    This was your last right? Congrats. How were the pulls
  • TikkaMasalaTikkaMasala Member Posts: 535 ★★★
    Good for you @willrun4adonut ! I just don’t feel like I have it in me to do any more Necro. I have stored revives for this but let them expire lately bc I just can’t find the motivation to do these fights.
  • kvirrkvirr Member Posts: 856 ★★★

    I just have no idea how people complete prompts with reverse control, especially the knockdown one when he's stun immune. And it was probably would have been more than 100 until I decided Warlock was the way to go. Thankfully, it is the last one. @Average_Desi

    Not the greatest pulls, but I got a cosmic gem, which I'll use on Maestro so I can then take the titan Nexus.

    if we could gift accolades to friends I would 100% give you every incursion one
  • Emilia90Emilia90 Member Posts: 3,541 ★★★★★
    You have amazing timing. Just started my path and this’ll help. Also great to see the AW love, he’s probably my fav champ to use
  • Wolf911Wolf911 Member Posts: 601 ★★★
    I just finished my run

    Till GM i used 8 revives
    1 for OS
    1 for Psycho man
    3 for Tigra
    3 for herc

    Soloed 8 fights with Wong

    My team
    R3 cheeilth
    R3 adam
    R2 wiccan
    R2 Wong
    R2 ironheart

    Chee got titania till 17% and Wong finished

    Solo on arkus with wong

    Adam got OS in 1 revive

    Airwalker solo with wong

    Ironheart got capt. Britain to ~40% Wong finish

    Wiccan solo with Wong

    Psychoman 1 revive with adam

    Apoc solo with Wong

    Tigra took 3 revives with Wong messed up one time early on

    Herc had trouble getting protection down but read the nodes then got him with Wong 3 revives

    Everyone else was Wong solo

    Adam and wong got GM first two phases

    Finished with ironheart

    The 3rd phase is a bit difficult to get all the prompts

    GM took ~ 10 revives
  • JT_SupremeJT_Supreme Member Posts: 1,253 ★★★★
    Does Wiccan work for reverse controls on Gm?
  • Wolf911Wolf911 Member Posts: 601 ★★★

    Does Wiccan work for reverse controls on Gm?

    Yes
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 4,960 ★★★★★

    Does Wiccan work for reverse controls on Gm?

    Yep
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 4,960 ★★★★★
    Wolf911 said:

    I just finished my run

    Till GM i used 8 revives
    1 for OS
    1 for Psycho man
    3 for Tigra
    3 for herc

    Soloed 8 fights with Wong

    My team
    R3 cheeilth
    R3 adam
    R2 wiccan
    R2 Wong
    R2 ironheart

    Chee got titania till 17% and Wong finished

    Solo on arkus with wong

    Adam got OS in 1 revive

    Airwalker solo with wong

    Ironheart got capt. Britain to ~40% Wong finish

    Wiccan solo with Wong

    Psychoman 1 revive with adam

    Apoc solo with Wong

    Tigra took 3 revives with Wong messed up one time early on

    Herc had trouble getting protection down but read the nodes then got him with Wong 3 revives

    Everyone else was Wong solo

    Adam and wong got GM first two phases

    Finished with ironheart

    The 3rd phase is a bit difficult to get all the prompts

    GM took ~ 10 revives

    @Wolf911 any suggestions on the GM phase 3? I just don't know how people do it. I'll be stocking up on the revive bundles when they appear, hopefully before Deathless Thanos arrives, but I'm afraid I'll just have to brute force it again with my deathless team when the time comes.
  • Wolf911Wolf911 Member Posts: 601 ★★★
    edited December 22
    Just use 20% revives with reverse control immune champs

    bait many sp1s and try to get the prompts

    There is also luck factor

    Like if you get prompts like dash back, stand still and hit GM's block you can wound him easily

    The parry one is hard but ironheart with bullwork was good

    Also if he gets to sp2 don't block just take it to face
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 4,960 ★★★★★
    Wolf911 said:

    Just use 20% revives with reverse control immune champs

    bait many sp1s and try to get the prompts

    There is also luck factor

    Like if you get prompts like dash back, stand still and hit GM's block you can wound him easily

    The parry one is hard but ironheart with bullwork was good

    Also if he gets to sp2 don't block just take it to face

    I tried that, but I'd keep getting smacked, or he'd hit into my block or something when I was at one percent and I'd die. But I guess I'll be trying that with vision (since he's reverse control immune).
  • Gildarts99Gildarts99 Member Posts: 421 ★★

    Everyone max boosted most of the time with mystic damage boost too, all with 6* relics
    Wong r3 duped
    Hulkbuster r3
    Sentry 6r4 [had ascension dust if needed and could r5]
    Wiccan r7 duped
    Adam Warlock r4a [took to r5 during event]

    Notes: Sentry was absolutely useless. Maybe I play him wrong, but I couldn’t get enough damage to solo a fight [not even close] so I would lose a persistent charge. Also, it was too hard to gain his solar flares or whatever as they would fall off before I could get to 20 or whatever was needed. So I didn’t use him [practiced on Titania and Odin, but still took him just in case something came up. It never did.

    Notes 2: Warlock was my MVP. I would have been stuck without him [Psycho-man fight and, most importantly, Phase 3 GM]. Never used him before, but took hi to r5 once at Psycho-Man and seeing how Wong wasn’t the easiest.

    Notes 3: Don’t throw sp3 against Guardian with Wong. You get a bug.

    Notes 3: I had a difficult time getting a solo with Titania with a r2 unboosted Wong, so I decided to wait until Banquet to see if I could r3 him. Made a compete difference. You can take MANY combos to face due to the higher health pool and heal it back up. Ihad also never used wong before this, but he is able to learn on the fly. Read Grootman’s Wonger’s rotation [https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/383165/new-challengers-approaching-my-10-year-carina-challenge-guide#latest]. I mostly did 3 orange, 3 green then 3 blue.

    All fights were about 10 minutes

    Followed Grootman’s guide, who did the Guardian path instead of Apoc. Apoc path might have been easier, but still not a problem.

    Trap node: Tranquilize on Parry – I actually had no problem parrying so it was fine.
    Titania: solo Wong - Just watch the dash backs so you don’t get too many weaknesses. When she starts to root you, I would often take the special to the face if she was in unblockable mode and just heal back up. Yay for r3 health pools.

    Vision: solo Wong – I thought it would be hard, but Vision did a good job of always throwing his specials. I got him very close to 3 bars several times, but he would throw them at the last second.

    Omega Sentinel: solo Wong – I would get stunned and damaged, but r3 Wong would heal back nicely. I also didn’t have to just bait sp1 because Wong would gain back health so easily.

    Airwalker: solo Wong – Just make sure you BLOCK his specials, don’t dex, and watch his timer. He did gain his galactus buff two or three times, but still got him down.

    Captain Britain: 1 revive Wong: You can heal the damage back nicely, even when you are hit by a special, EXCEPT when she has 25 prowess. That’s what killed me.

    Wiccan: Wong solo – Wiccan healed five times, but still was able to get the solo. You take no damage with all the spells going, and you heal nicely. Do try to get him to throw sp2 though and not sp1. The timer was close on this one due to Wiccan healing more than I would have liked.

    Psycho-Man: 1 Wong death, 4 Warlock fights [so three revives] – I couldn’t get Wong to cooperate, so I stopped midway to research and learn warlock. He just did amazing for this fight, and I can’t even tell you why as I’m not Warlock connoisseur.

    NOTE: I went Guardian instead of Apoc because I don’t like fighting Apoc nor Tigra, though I think Wong’s duped ability helps with their trap node.

    New Trap Node: must have different combo enders or you get autoblocked. For these fights, I would often build up to sp3 as you get one of each spell, then go orange, green, blue. Just not for Guardian as I found out. To keep the spell I wanted, I just didn’t finish a five hit combo so they wouldn’t autoblock.

    Guardian: 1 revive Wong due to bug – If you throw a sp3, then you get the gray screen Spiderham and Nimrod. So I died and healed up. Otherwise, fight wasn’t too bad. For this one, I built up 2 orange, two green, then did the rest of the spells when I could. Be sure to heavy while unstoppable so he doesn’t auto-block you. You can survive a sp2 also when blocking, even if he has massive shield charges.

    Valk: 1 team revive, one Wong – I read Grootman’s guide and he did Warlock. I couldn’t get it going so I tried Wong. He did great. You just have to remember to hit her block as her specials are free only with passives pierces, which are gained when hitting her block. About halfway through the fight, I realized I could trigger her auto-block when needed by using the trap node, which gave her the pierce needed, and then could heal back the damage I took from getting smacked in the face.

    Red Guardian: solo Wong – Easy fight. I went with 3 oranges first instead of sp3 this time.

    Sam: solo Wong: Like Guardian, be sure to fire sp2 while heavy to gain the unblockable. This makes his use his armor ups to auto-block, which then fails since it’s unblockable. I think the sap charges affected Wong’s power gain, but I don’t really knw what those do anyways. Don’t be afraid of hitting his block and gaining rupture damage as you’ll heal it back. Just don’t let him get to sp2.

    Dragon Man: solo Wong – I can’t remember if I did sp3 or three oranges first. I did restart two times without healing. My idea was to get the power gain to disappear by having max pacify, parrying right before his power charge activated, and hoping that the pacify would disable it. It finally happened on try three when Dragon Man was at 48% health. I started at 25% and ended up at 100%. The first two tries he held his sp3, but the last try he was much more cooperative.

    CAIW – one revive Wong: I wasn’t the best at managing his charges. I got concussion like 4 times, and he killed me when he was at 19% health. Finished with Warlock.

    Nova: solo Wong – if you read my other necro guides, you would have noticed that I spent like 70 revives all together on my 3 runs against Nova. Wong made him super easy.

    Nameless GM – everyone, 40+ revives and heals [had to but the very last one for 40 units]: I brought HB for this fight. After remembering how to play against him [ I still get clipped often by sp1], everything went fine until phase 3 – reverse controls. I tried everything, but nothing worked. I had always used Aegon before and just brute forced it. However, I couldn’t brute force it with Wong, HB, Sentry [who was useless this necro run]. So I thought with all of my spare revives, I’ll just have to brute force him. I thought Wiccan might be good, and I would just heal up and take the 2% damage until he died. However, after several attempts, I realized I’ll use Warlock. Since he can go unblockable, I’ll just wail on him until I die. I forgot that Warlock gives him taunt, which lead to GM reliably throwing his special after being attacked, which meant I could dodge it sometimes. Warlock would be able to take off 1% to my best run, 7%, this way. I don’t know how people do this with prompts, or how I’m going to do it with Nameless champs. Phase 4 is easy for most. To reach the sp3, I revived Wong, died with him, brought in Wicca. Since Wong’s ability gives the next champion 1 bar of power, I only had to really gain two bars instead of three.

    TL;DR – Bring Warlock for GM if you stink at reverse controls and will have to revive and brute force it. A r3 boosted Wong [especially duped] is very forgiving, even when you take combos and specials to the face. Just not a 25 prowess Captain Britain.

    And I got my Incursion Incinerator profile pic and title during the run, but still seeking more Battlerealm Besties. Also, back to carrying people in incursions since everything else is done again.

    I used sentry too. Infact for the first few paths, I used him than wong. And that Titania fight isn't ideal for him. Sorry. I took the evade path just because I wanted to use him. Wasn't bad, but wasn't my best either
  • IronGladiator22IronGladiator22 Member Posts: 1,712 ★★★★
    Just finished my initial completion run with 10 year challenge champs
    Used somewhere in the ballpark of 30-40 revives, all stashed up, plus a bunch of health pots.
    Team was:
    R2 awakened Wong
    R2 awakened Vox
    R2 Chee’ilth
    R1 Wiccan
    R1 Knull

    Currently saving my rewards so I have plenty to open on Christmas Day.
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 4,960 ★★★★★

    Just finished my initial completion run with 10 year challenge champs
    Used somewhere in the ballpark of 30-40 revives, all stashed up, plus a bunch of health pots.
    Team was:
    R2 awakened Wong
    R2 awakened Vox
    R2 Chee’ilth
    R1 Wiccan
    R1 Knull

    Currently saving my rewards so I have plenty to open on Christmas Day.

    I'm curious on your GM phase 3. How many revives? @IronGladiator22
    I know someone else must have brute forced it besides me, right?
  • IronGladiator22IronGladiator22 Member Posts: 1,712 ★★★★

    Just finished my initial completion run with 10 year challenge champs
    Used somewhere in the ballpark of 30-40 revives, all stashed up, plus a bunch of health pots.
    Team was:
    R2 awakened Wong
    R2 awakened Vox
    R2 Chee’ilth
    R1 Wiccan
    R1 Knull

    Currently saving my rewards so I have plenty to open on Christmas Day.

    I'm curious on your GM phase 3. How many revives? @IronGladiator22
    I know someone else must have brute forced it besides me, right?
    Yeah it wasn’t ideal, I believe I used 3 team revives and 10-15 revives, most of which used on phase 3. Could’ve been less sloppy, but it got pretty annoying with some of his callouts, plus plenty of fun ai intercepting
  • Giantwalrus56Giantwalrus56 Member Posts: 1,088 ★★★★

    Good for you @willrun4adonut ! I just don’t feel like I have it in me to do any more Necro. I have stored revives for this but let them expire lately bc I just can’t find the motivation to do these fights.


    You are not the only one feeling that way. I keep trying to motivate to use the expiring items, but just can't do it. I enjoy a challenge, but the monotony is just too much...
  • PenzitoPenzito Member Posts: 86
    I did the run with R3 knull with recoils, and got the path done in 15 revives. Grandmaster was a whole other story, however that is just skill issue. Knull is amazing if you take Sauron and Guardian paths. I am not very skilled end game player.
  • OnepieceisnotrealOnepieceisnotreal Member Posts: 50
    Can it be done with 6r5a Wong?
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 4,960 ★★★★★

    Can it be done with 6r5a Wong?

    I wouldn't do it, but people have. My vengeance timers got low on some, and I believe I started with fifty more charges with a r3 than a r5a has. But again, I'd imagine it would have cost me one more revive per fight, so if you can handle GM and not water a bazillion revives on him like I did then you should be fine.
  • Grootman1294Grootman1294 Member Posts: 935 ★★★★
    Great stuff man, glad to see everything went very well up to grandmaster. Wong is crazy.
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 4,960 ★★★★★

    Great stuff man, glad to see everything went very well up to grandmaster. Wong is crazy.

    And I never would have figured out Wong without your write-up. I hate watching vids.
  • PT_99PT_99 Member Posts: 4,870 ★★★★★
    I thought wiccan being reverse immune will be cool?
  • willrun4adonutwillrun4adonut Member Posts: 4,960 ★★★★★
    PT_99 said:

    I thought wiccan being reverse immune will be cool?

    I couldn't do enough damage in phase 3 for him to be useful before I died from block damage and the constant degen.
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