Where do you rate Kushala in the Mystic Class?

Polygon · January 1

Obviously not as good as Chavez and Juggernaut, but do you think she takes spot #3 in the Mystic class?

Do you think she's too slow for BGs matches? Or do you think her versatility in matchups she can take plus finishing with a full green bar makes up for it?

Asher1_1 · January 1

Top 1 this meta ofc juggs & chavez not that good in GC

EdisonLaw · January 1

Top 3 attacker

Darthbane3141 · January 1

I might just need to learn Kushala better, but I find her damage to be extremely lacking. To be fair, I haven't played her a lot, but she just does so much less than my 7 star Juggs and Chavez.

captain_rogers · January 1

She is a "mystic champ" With abilities to counter cosmics, unlike juggs and chavez who just hit hard against everyone.

Amanda_Cruze · January 1

You guys are not even discussing sorcerer supreme, BW CV and doom??

Sw0rdMaster · January 1

This is Vega's Dec BG mystic ranking.

captain_rogers · January 1

Sw0rdMaster said:
This is Vega's Dec BG mystic ranking.

Who dies to longshot in defense lol

captain_rogers · January 1

Sw0rdMaster said:
This is Vega's Dec BG mystic ranking.

This is the exact reason people should completely ignore tier lists since everyone of them I've seen excluding seatin's is out of touch from the reality of

Polygon · January 1

Amanda_Cruze said:
You guys are not even discussing sorcerer supreme, BW CV and doom??

Wait Sorcerer is in the game?

Renaxqq · January 1

#1

TrongNov · January 1

I have her duped but hardly use her. I guess I'm not impressed by her damage. Her DoT reminds me of Mordo. Maybe she's great in War, which I never concern myself with. I have r3 Chavez and Juggs. I'm really tempted to r3 White Tiger instead of Kush. Personally I find WTiger's dmg more consistent.

EdisonLaw · January 1

captain_rogers said:

Sw0rdMaster said:
This is Vega's Dec BG mystic ranking.

Who dies to longshot in defense lol

If the attacker isn’t immune to buffs or nullify, and if your buff gets turned to bad karma, a sp2 turns those into incinerates. Plus the pure of heart which grants him extra combat power rate plus MD

Polygon · January 1

TrongNov said:
I have her duped but hardly use her. I guess I'm not impressed by her damage. Her DoT reminds me of Mordo. Maybe she's great in War, which I never concern myself with. I have r3 Chavez and Juggs. I'm really tempted to r3 White Tiger instead of Kush. Personally I find WTiger's dmg more consistent.

Interesting, there seems to be a trend on her damage output not being impressive. Wolf probably has more

EdisonLaw · January 1

TrongNov said:
I have her duped but hardly use her. I guess I'm not impressed by her damage. Her DoT reminds me of Mordo. Maybe she's great in War, which I never concern myself with. I have r3 Chavez and Juggs. I'm really tempted to r3 White Tiger instead of Kush. Personally I find WTiger's dmg more consistent.

Her damage is very high, definitely higher than mordo. Especially if you combine incinerates with soul barb

IAmGrO_ot78 · January 1

Top shelf champ, in da class and da game 🤩 Mine is unduped at R2 - might go R3 if I get a dupe after the AOA.

TrongNov said:
I have her duped but hardly use her. I guess I'm not impressed by her damage. Her DoT reminds me of Mordo. Maybe she's great in War, which I never concern myself with. I have r3 Chavez and Juggs. I'm really tempted to r3 White Tiger instead of Kush. Personally I find WTiger's dmg more consistent.

R3 Wiger owner, she is on fire 🔥

Rayven5220 · January 1

EdisonLaw said:

captain_rogers said:

Sw0rdMaster said:
This is Vega's Dec BG mystic ranking.

Who dies to longshot in defense lol
If the attacker isn’t immune to buffs or nullify, and if your buff gets turned to bad karma, a sp2 turns those into incinerates. Plus the pure of heart which grants him extra combat power rate plus MD

😬 I have done it... I've never used Longshot, no idea how the dude works.

I can't remember who I used, but all of a sudden I was melting from incinerate and I was toast.
Longshot laughed, I laughed, we all laughed. 🤣

Agent_T · January 1

I don’t understand how some people are saying her damage isn’t impressive. Are you sure you’re using her correctly? In buff heavy matchups particularly she melts health bars off 1 sp2 typically. I use her in both war and bg. Mainly in war however. She also has really nice utilities. How does she compare to juggs and America Chavez? Well, like someone else already stated… she’s a different kind of champ that brings much more utility to fights in comparison to damage. But with the proper set up she can dish out insane damage and again, melt health bars with a sp2 (or even a couple sp1)

BuggyDClown · January 1

Chavez - Good in Bgs, mid outside
Jugs - Good in Bgs, Good outside
Kushala - Awesome in Bgs, Queen outside
Doom- Average in Bgs, King outside

BG≠Mcoc

Mcoc= Story, Sqs,Eqs,Aw,AQ, Temporary Endgame contents, Permanent Endgame Content, BGs

Sorry if I have hurt any BG brainrot here, cuz might do again

captain_rogers · January 1

BuggyDClown said:
Chavez - Good in Bgs, mid outside
Jugs - Good in Bgs, Good outside
Kushala - Awesome in Bgs, Queen outside
Doom- Average in Bgs, King outside

BG≠Mcoc

Mcoc= Story, Sqs,Eqs,Aw,AQ, Temporary Endgame contents, Permanent Endgame Content, BGs

Sorry if I have hurt any BG brainrot here, cuz might do again

Bro i agree with everything but did you just called chavez mid outside bgs? She cooks everywhere.

Envi1 · January 1

Kushala is a top 3 mystic, she has literally everything, anyone saying otherwise unfortunately doesn’t know how to play her

BuggyDClown · January 1

captain_rogers said:

BuggyDClown said:
Chavez - Good in Bgs, mid outside
Jugs - Good in Bgs, Good outside
Kushala - Awesome in Bgs, Queen outside
Doom- Average in Bgs, King outside

BG≠Mcoc

Mcoc= Story, Sqs,Eqs,Aw,AQ, Temporary Endgame contents, Permanent Endgame Content, BGs

Sorry if I have hurt any BG brainrot here, cuz might do again
Bro i agree with everything but did you just called chavez mid outside bgs? She cooks everywhere.

I respect your opinion mate , but for me she is mid.

She have damage but her utility is not that good. She can power reverse but for that you need 3 heavies and her purple dimension up all the time.
She can reduce the potency of some buffs. But that's it.

As a Mystic champ, she falls behind as there are literally better champs than her in class. And for me BG values nothing. Content is always changing, sooner or later even her damage won't be compensating, that too in BGs.

So for me she is mid, good champ in BG.
But if someone likes her, it's their personal choice & taste and I appreciate and support individual preferences.

But if someone just judges champ solely based on BGs especially on fast attack, they are just straight up dumb as MCOC ≠ BGs.

And I don't mean anything bad to you. I am saying in general about the situation and glorification being created around BGs and champ relevancy along with it

Kingering_King · January 1

Polygon said:
Obviously not as good as Chavez and Juggernaut, but do you think she takes spot #3 in the Mystic class?

Do you think she's too slow for BGs matches? Or do you think her versatility in matchups she can take plus finishing with a full green bar makes up for it?

Since everyone but me has her as a 7*, I’d say she’s like 5. Juggs, abs, Chavez, enchantress THEN kushala.

Emilia90 · January 1

Darthbane3141 said:
I might just need to learn Kushala better, but I find her damage to be extremely lacking. To be fair, I haven't played her a lot, but she just does so much less than my 7 star Juggs and Chavez.

She’s not a speed queen who kills as fast as those 2 but she’s incredibly sustainable and her damage is really good. How are people finding her damage lacking Lmao

She has 3 different damage sources AND passives with the awakened ability. She’s already insanely versatile being able to cook bullseye and serpent with good times. Her DOT is really good and she has utility for days. Can’t see how people think she’s somehow lacking in that department, even if she isn’t Juggs level fast (which not many champs are) she has more reach than him with really good damage to boot

Emilia90 · January 1

BuggyDClown said:

captain_rogers said:

BuggyDClown said:
Chavez - Good in Bgs, mid outside
Jugs - Good in Bgs, Good outside
Kushala - Awesome in Bgs, Queen outside
Doom- Average in Bgs, King outside

BG≠Mcoc

Mcoc= Story, Sqs,Eqs,Aw,AQ, Temporary Endgame contents, Permanent Endgame Content, BGs

Sorry if I have hurt any BG brainrot here, cuz might do again
Bro i agree with everything but did you just called chavez mid outside bgs? She cooks everywhere.
I respect your opinion mate , but for me she is mid.

She have damage but her utility is not that good. She can power reverse but for that you need 3 heavies and her purple dimension up all the time.
She can reduce the potency of some buffs. But that's it.

As a Mystic champ, she falls behind as there are literally better champs than her in class. And for me BG values nothing. Content is always changing, sooner or later even her damage won't be compensating, that too in BGs.

So for me she is mid, good champ in BG.
But if someone likes her, it's their personal choice & taste and I appreciate and support individual preferences.

But if someone just judges champ solely based on BGs especially on fast attack, they are just straight up dumb as MCOC ≠ BGs.

And I don't mean anything bad to you. I am saying in general about the situation and glorification being created around BGs and champ relevancy along with it

She’s a top tier mystic literally anywhere though? Her power gain reversal is insane, she’s also incredibly sustainable with great regen, her damage being cracked is good anywhere. Don’t really see how she falls behind when she’s good for some of the most meta champs. She’s a fantastic serpent counter and I’ve used her to nuke a ton of others like onslaught. She’s maintained her relevance as a top tier mystic for not only BG for a while now and she’s not going anywhere

captain_rogers · January 1

BuggyDClown said:

captain_rogers said:

BuggyDClown said:
Chavez - Good in Bgs, mid outside
Jugs - Good in Bgs, Good outside
Kushala - Awesome in Bgs, Queen outside
Doom- Average in Bgs, King outside

BG≠Mcoc

Mcoc= Story, Sqs,Eqs,Aw,AQ, Temporary Endgame contents, Permanent Endgame Content, BGs

Sorry if I have hurt any BG brainrot here, cuz might do again
Bro i agree with everything but did you just called chavez mid outside bgs? She cooks everywhere.
I respect your opinion mate , but for me she is mid.

She have damage but her utility is not that good. She can power reverse but for that you need 3 heavies and her purple dimension up all the time.
She can reduce the potency of some buffs. But that's it.

As a Mystic champ, she falls behind as there are literally better champs than her in class. And for me BG values nothing. Content is always changing, sooner or later even her damage won't be compensating, that too in BGs.

So for me she is mid, good champ in BG.
But if someone likes her, it's their personal choice & taste and I appreciate and support individual preferences.

But if someone just judges champ solely based on BGs especially on fast attack, they are just straight up dumb as MCOC ≠ BGs.

And I don't mean anything bad to you. I am saying in general about the situation and glorification being created around BGs and champ relevancy along with it

I completely understand what you're saying and I personally won't value champs solely out of bgs. But she has literally the best power reversal in the game imo (just heavy spam in corner). The buff potency reduction is nice against tech champs since it bypass their nullify immunities. Her regen on sp2 is nice. I use her everywhere. She can take many fights in necropolis. That's why I said she's great even outside bgs. But I understand what you're saying.

SG2468 · January 1

i feel like kushala is definitely top 3 . her utility is just god tier 2 immunties , ability to block unblockable attacks (even basic ones) ,make ai aggresive ,heal from block damage. She doesnt even need the opponent to have buffs because she can just put ignite buffs . Her damage output from incinerate is pretty good . even if opponent was incinerate immune u can just use sp2 and get the soul barb damage so she doesnt necessarily have a lot weak matchups(except shrug off or buff immune champs) . the other top 3 would be doom and absorbing man . (not sure of 2024 mystics)

Emilia90 · January 1

SG2468 said:
i feel like kushala is definitely top 3 . her utility is just god tier 2 immunties , ability to block unblockable attacks (even basic ones) ,make ai aggresive ,heal from block damage. She doesnt even need the opponent to have buffs because she can just put ignite buffs . Her damage output from incinerate is pretty good . even if opponent was incinerate immune u can just use sp2 and get the soul barb damage so she doesnt necessarily have a lot weak matchups(except shrug off or buff immune champs) . the other top 3 would be doom and absorbing man . (not sure of 2024 mystics)

Right? Her utility set is cracked and she has good damage too. I’m seriously questioning the people saying they find her damage lacking, are we even playing the same champ? Also saw a wolf comparison, like wolf isn’t a nuke either and he lacks 95% of Kushala’s utility 😭

JessieS · January 1

I quite like her . I find her personally better than Chavez . Yes I have heard a lot about Chavez potential but I find her play style so annoying . Maybe if there was a better way to keep dimensions then to have to launch sp1 during heavies but now I just find her annoying . And yes I know with practice I would be able to do eaisly but it just not fun

Where do you rate Kushala in the Mystic Class?

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