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  • Soumemiakas1926Soumemiakas1926 Member Posts: 483 ★★★
    JLordVileJ said:

    The fight isn't THAT hard...

    Yes it is
  • Soumemiakas1926Soumemiakas1926 Member Posts: 483 ★★★
    Emilia90 said:

    Skill issue

    Super easy fight, you can interrupt his heavy or even sp into it. Lots of options in the objectives that shut down unstoppable entirely (sorcerer supreme, dragon man, BRB)

    I'm an endgame player who has completed every single challenge the game has brought since the very beginning. So it's not a skill issue. It's definitely FIGHT ISSUE
  • Soumemiakas1926Soumemiakas1926 Member Posts: 483 ★★★
    willrun4adonut said:

    Soumemiakas1926 said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    Let's be constructive: what's not making sense about it for you?

    It doesn't make sense to make me interrupt a heavy while unstoppable and even if I do that he immediately does a second heavy in a millisecond and kills me in one second. How much sense does that make to you?
    My guess is that this will be the last post with people trying to help you: the rest will just be saying "skill issue" because it is, and your tone stinks.

    If you don't want to deal with the unstoppable, just build up to sp3.

    You can also hit him between the first swing of his sword and then dex the second and third.

    There's already a thread going that has tips and suggestions.
    Your tone stinks. People who only say skill issue are incapable of completing a sentence without a dictionary.
  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 6,143 ★★★★★
    Screenshot after one sp2 from bwdo
    Skill issue
  • Soumemiakas1926Soumemiakas1926 Member Posts: 483 ★★★
    willrun4adonut said:

    Soumemiakas1926 said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    Let's be constructive: what's not making sense about it for you?

    It doesn't make sense to make me interrupt a heavy while unstoppable and even if I do that he immediately does a second heavy in a millisecond and kills me in one second. How much sense does that make to you?
    My guess is that this will be the last post with people trying to help you: the rest will just be saying "skill issue" because it is, and your tone stinks.

    If you don't want to deal with the unstoppable, just build up to sp3.

    You can also hit him between the first swing of his sword and then dex the second and third.

    There's already a thread going that has tips and suggestions.
    I do that and then he instantly does a heavy again and kills me. I can't react in nanoseconds. If that's your definition of skill issue then it is.
  • Soumemiakas1926Soumemiakas1926 Member Posts: 483 ★★★
    edited January 1
    willrun4adonut said:

    WednesdayLength said:

    Genuinely one of the easiest fights we've had so far, you could do it with anyone

    Yep, this is actually a well made fight. Any champ can do it.
    This is definitely the worst designed and lame fight ever
  • Darkraw346Darkraw346 Member Posts: 2,636 ★★★★★
    I mean...
    https://youtu.be/6cUKWacOpQ8?si=5-H_t515VVFf0TRM
  • Soumemiakas1926Soumemiakas1926 Member Posts: 483 ★★★
    WednesdayLength said:

    Genuinely one of the easiest fights we've had so far, you could do it with anyone

    It is the hardest fight of all time and it's not even close
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  • Soumemiakas1926Soumemiakas1926 Member Posts: 483 ★★★
    willrun4adonut said:

    Soumemiakas1926 said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    Soumemiakas1926 said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    Let's be constructive: what's not making sense about it for you?

    It doesn't make sense to make me interrupt a heavy while unstoppable and even if I do that he immediately does a second heavy in a millisecond and kills me in one second. How much sense does that make to you?
    My guess is that this will be the last post with people trying to help you: the rest will just be saying "skill issue" because it is, and your tone stinks.

    If you don't want to deal with the unstoppable, just build up to sp3.

    You can also hit him between the first swing of his sword and then dex the second and third.

    There's already a thread going that has tips and suggestions.
    Your tone stinks. People who only say skill issue are incapable of completing a sentence without a dictionary.
    Tone and facts/opinions are some areas you need to brush up on.

    Also, a dictionary doesn't help with sentence formation.
    Tone and facts are some areas that YOU need to brush op on. You are quite rude you know. Mind your attitude.
  • Darkraw346Darkraw346 Member Posts: 2,636 ★★★★★
    Soumemiakas1926 said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    Soumemiakas1926 said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    Soumemiakas1926 said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    Let's be constructive: what's not making sense about it for you?

    It doesn't make sense to make me interrupt a heavy while unstoppable and even if I do that he immediately does a second heavy in a millisecond and kills me in one second. How much sense does that make to you?
    My guess is that this will be the last post with people trying to help you: the rest will just be saying "skill issue" because it is, and your tone stinks.

    If you don't want to deal with the unstoppable, just build up to sp3.

    You can also hit him between the first swing of his sword and then dex the second and third.

    There's already a thread going that has tips and suggestions.
    Your tone stinks. People who only say skill issue are incapable of completing a sentence without a dictionary.
    Tone and facts/opinions are some areas you need to brush up on.

    Also, a dictionary doesn't help with sentence formation.
    Tone and facts are some areas that YOU need to brush op on. You are quite rude you know. Mind your attitude.
    I have one question... you take this fight way too hard and serious than any other person, like, did Heimdal burn down ur house or something? Lol
  • Soumemiakas1926Soumemiakas1926 Member Posts: 483 ★★★
    Darkraw346 said:

    Soumemiakas1926 said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    Soumemiakas1926 said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    Soumemiakas1926 said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    Let's be constructive: what's not making sense about it for you?

    It doesn't make sense to make me interrupt a heavy while unstoppable and even if I do that he immediately does a second heavy in a millisecond and kills me in one second. How much sense does that make to you?
    My guess is that this will be the last post with people trying to help you: the rest will just be saying "skill issue" because it is, and your tone stinks.

    If you don't want to deal with the unstoppable, just build up to sp3.

    You can also hit him between the first swing of his sword and then dex the second and third.

    There's already a thread going that has tips and suggestions.
    Your tone stinks. People who only say skill issue are incapable of completing a sentence without a dictionary.
    Tone and facts/opinions are some areas you need to brush up on.

    Also, a dictionary doesn't help with sentence formation.
    Tone and facts are some areas that YOU need to brush op on. You are quite rude you know. Mind your attitude.
    I have one question... you take this fight way too hard and serious than any other person, like, did Heimdal burn down ur house or something? Lol
    Well I'm quite close to break my phone soo....
  • Soumemiakas1926Soumemiakas1926 Member Posts: 483 ★★★
    willrun4adonut said:

    Soumemiakas1926 said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    Soumemiakas1926 said:

    willrun4adonut said:

    Let's be constructive: what's not making sense about it for you?

    It doesn't make sense to make me interrupt a heavy while unstoppable and even if I do that he immediately does a second heavy in a millisecond and kills me in one second. How much sense does that make to you?
    My guess is that this will be the last post with people trying to help you: the rest will just be saying "skill issue" because it is, and your tone stinks.

    If you don't want to deal with the unstoppable, just build up to sp3.

    You can also hit him between the first swing of his sword and then dex the second and third.

    There's already a thread going that has tips and suggestions.
    Your tone stinks. People who only say skill issue are incapable of completing a sentence without a dictionary.
    Tone and facts/opinions are some areas you need to brush up on.

    Also, a dictionary doesn't help with sentence formation.
    A dictionary actually helps a lot because you know you need actual words to make a sentence. "sKiLl IsSuE" isn't a sentence.
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  • Soumemiakas1926Soumemiakas1926 Member Posts: 483 ★★★
    Darkraw346 said:

    captain_rogers said:


    Is history about to repeat itself?
    I hope not because I didn't say anything that should be banned
  • Darkraw346Darkraw346 Member Posts: 2,636 ★★★★★
    Soumemiakas1926 said:

    Darkraw346 said:

    captain_rogers said:


    Is history about to repeat itself?
    I hope not because I didn't say anything that should be banned
    Just don't lose it and it'll be fine
    Look at the vid I've attached above tho
  • Soumemiakas1926Soumemiakas1926 Member Posts: 483 ★★★
    Darkraw346 said:

    Soumemiakas1926 said:

    Darkraw346 said:

    captain_rogers said:


    Is history about to repeat itself?
    I hope not because I didn't say anything that should be banned
    Just don't lose it and it'll be fine
    Look at the vid I've attached above tho
    Thank you for your support. It seems you are the only person I can communicate with. I'll study the fight more and then come back. Appreciated.
  • Soumemiakas1926Soumemiakas1926 Member Posts: 483 ★★★
    IAmGrO_ot78 said:

    Any champ can do this.

    Forget about the bs, go for sp3s. 4-5 sp3s per fight > done.

    Or deal with the «punish heavy - but what if he got a sp1 ready ?!? or throws 3 heavies in a row» bs….🥵

    Ok thank you I'll try that. Thank you 🙏
  • Suros_moonSuros_moon Member Posts: 490 ★★★★
    To preface I already solo’d every objective easily (in fact Ive solo’d all objectives for all EOP content since its inception) but there are very egregious AI issues with this fight. I went back several times to capture videos of each behavior that makes no sense and I’ll list the problems here:

    1) Animation cancelling his dash into heavy. Ordinarily a free way to throw a special is to dex a medium cancelling into special. It frame locks them so its guaranteed to connect… unless they can animation cancel their attack into something which roots you and lets them go unstoppable. This is a really really dumb interaction. The cherry on top is that his animation is so long that it also opens you to getting clipped after your special ends killing you instantly.

    2) Mid Blocked hit root. Occasionally, while using massacre, I noticed a root would sometimes just appear on me mid block combo because this AI is doing sub-frame-perfect actions attempting to use a heavy when it should be completely impossible.

    3) Full screen intercepts with heavies. When closing the distance on his block, sometimes he’ll just “nope” you out of the dash when he was originally holding block

    These problems are not akin to the natural difficulty of learning how to interact with the nodes but rather symptoms of the teams ongoing inability to fix the AI. These sorts of behaviors on the defenders part take essential parts of the fight (ie the ability to throw a special) and turn them into dice rolls where the penalty is instant death. Whats worse is that I cant even gift you the idea that its just incompetence on the teams part. Youre aware of the issues in variance your AI has. There’s been numerous posts (and 0 solutions I might add) over the past 2 years showing youre aware of that issue. Still, you choose to design fights which capitalize on what should be an issue in the game showing a strain of maliciousness.
  • Soumemiakas1926Soumemiakas1926 Member Posts: 483 ★★★
    Suros_moon said:

    To preface I already solo’d every objective easily (in fact Ive solo’d all objectives for all EOP content since its inception) but there are very egregious AI issues with this fight. I went back several times to capture videos of each behavior that makes no sense and I’ll list the problems here:

    1) Animation cancelling his dash into heavy. Ordinarily a free way to throw a special is to dex a medium cancelling into special. It frame locks them so its guaranteed to connect… unless they can animation cancel their attack into something which roots you and lets them go unstoppable. This is a really really dumb interaction. The cherry on top is that his animation is so long that it also opens you to getting clipped after your special ends killing you instantly.

    2) Mid Blocked hit root. Occasionally, while using massacre, I noticed a root would sometimes just appear on me mid block combo because this AI is doing sub-frame-perfect actions attempting to use a heavy when it should be completely impossible.

    3) Full screen intercepts with heavies. When closing the distance on his block, sometimes he’ll just “nope” you out of the dash when he was originally holding block

    These problems are not akin to the natural difficulty of learning how to interact with the nodes but rather symptoms of the teams ongoing inability to fix the AI. These sorts of behaviors on the defenders part take essential parts of the fight (ie the ability to throw a special) and turn them into dice rolls where the penalty is instant death. Whats worse is that I cant even gift you the idea that its just incompetence on the teams part. Youre aware of the issues in variance your AI has. There’s been numerous posts (and 0 solutions I might add) over the past 2 years showing youre aware of that issue. Still, you choose to design fights which capitalize on what should be an issue in the game showing a strain of maliciousness.

    I completely agree with this
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 9,027 ★★★★★
    Darkraw346 said:

    captain_rogers said:


    Is history about to repeat itself?
    Truth always come alight everytime lol
  • Gildarts99Gildarts99 Member Posts: 449 ★★★
    This one is actually pretty easy fight honestly
  • Soumemiakas1926Soumemiakas1926 Member Posts: 483 ★★★
    Suros_moon said:

    To preface I already solo’d every objective easily (in fact Ive solo’d all objectives for all EOP content since its inception) but there are very egregious AI issues with this fight. I went back several times to capture videos of each behavior that makes no sense and I’ll list the problems here:

    1) Animation cancelling his dash into heavy. Ordinarily a free way to throw a special is to dex a medium cancelling into special. It frame locks them so its guaranteed to connect… unless they can animation cancel their attack into something which roots you and lets them go unstoppable. This is a really really dumb interaction. The cherry on top is that his animation is so long that it also opens you to getting clipped after your special ends killing you instantly.

    2) Mid Blocked hit root. Occasionally, while using massacre, I noticed a root would sometimes just appear on me mid block combo because this AI is doing sub-frame-perfect actions attempting to use a heavy when it should be completely impossible.

    3) Full screen intercepts with heavies. When closing the distance on his block, sometimes he’ll just “nope” you out of the dash when he was originally holding block

    These problems are not akin to the natural difficulty of learning how to interact with the nodes but rather symptoms of the teams ongoing inability to fix the AI. These sorts of behaviors on the defenders part take essential parts of the fight (ie the ability to throw a special) and turn them into dice rolls where the penalty is instant death. Whats worse is that I cant even gift you the idea that its just incompetence on the teams part. Youre aware of the issues in variance your AI has. There’s been numerous posts (and 0 solutions I might add) over the past 2 years showing youre aware of that issue. Still, you choose to design fights which capitalize on what should be an issue in the game showing a strain of maliciousness.

    I completely agree with this
    Bendy said:

    captain_rogers said:


    Oh another liar he didnt do abs of course
    I actually did abs fight. I have done almost every fight besides the cassie lang last week because I didn't have the right champions ranked up
  • JLordVileJJLordVileJ Member Posts: 6,143 ★★★★★
    edited January 1
    Solo
    Yeah he did throw a lot of heavies. Skill issue if you can't dex them and you therefore die. I clearly had a skill issue cuz i got hit by a heavy. You don't see me blaming the fight. That's all the objectives done for me
  • BendyBendy Member Posts: 9,027 ★★★★★
    Soumemiakas1926 said:

    Suros_moon said:

    To preface I already solo’d every objective easily (in fact Ive solo’d all objectives for all EOP content since its inception) but there are very egregious AI issues with this fight. I went back several times to capture videos of each behavior that makes no sense and I’ll list the problems here:

    1) Animation cancelling his dash into heavy. Ordinarily a free way to throw a special is to dex a medium cancelling into special. It frame locks them so its guaranteed to connect… unless they can animation cancel their attack into something which roots you and lets them go unstoppable. This is a really really dumb interaction. The cherry on top is that his animation is so long that it also opens you to getting clipped after your special ends killing you instantly.

    2) Mid Blocked hit root. Occasionally, while using massacre, I noticed a root would sometimes just appear on me mid block combo because this AI is doing sub-frame-perfect actions attempting to use a heavy when it should be completely impossible.

    3) Full screen intercepts with heavies. When closing the distance on his block, sometimes he’ll just “nope” you out of the dash when he was originally holding block

    These problems are not akin to the natural difficulty of learning how to interact with the nodes but rather symptoms of the teams ongoing inability to fix the AI. These sorts of behaviors on the defenders part take essential parts of the fight (ie the ability to throw a special) and turn them into dice rolls where the penalty is instant death. Whats worse is that I cant even gift you the idea that its just incompetence on the teams part. Youre aware of the issues in variance your AI has. There’s been numerous posts (and 0 solutions I might add) over the past 2 years showing youre aware of that issue. Still, you choose to design fights which capitalize on what should be an issue in the game showing a strain of maliciousness.

    I completely agree with this
    Bendy said:

    captain_rogers said:


    Oh another liar he didnt do abs of course
    I actually did abs fight. I have done almost every fight besides the cassie lang last week because I didn't have the right champions ranked up
    And u said he was easy that picture proves otherwise
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