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His fans are obsessed with trying to convince "THEMSELVES" as well as the rest of the community that he's this INSANELY OP character. He's pretty good but he's not better than the attack staples in the cosmic class or the 2024 attack staples of last year(offensively at least). Like A LOT of his fans are trying to project him to be.
I can't speak on his overall value as I have yet to face him on defense and (NEITHER CAN HIS FANS CALLING HIM THE BEST COSMIC) but judging offensively he's not THE BEST in any of his eligible categories. Seems like a pretty good champion tho but not by any means the BEST in any of his eligible categories.
Maximum level hater. He’s incredibly well rounded, he’s not “OP” so to say but he’s a top contender for top tier attacker at least lmao. What more could you ask for? Great damage for all content lengths, some incredible utility (panic, triple immunities, stun from combo, easy openings with unstoppable, armor shatter).
Did you read?? You seem to cry alot about what I say on here and It's comically hilarious.
I said he's not "INSANELY OP" and you literally said he's well rounded but not "OP" what are you arguing about then???
I couldn't ask for anything else he's definitely UP THERE but he is not "THE BEST" (like his fans are saying he unarguably is) Do you need me to spell it out for you?? As the guy who commented before me said, "Top 5 cosmic" and I can definitely see him being there. I did however say HE IS NOT THE BEST COSMIC. Why are you still crying???
Your post came off as incredibly condescending and you sound like a twat. “hIs FaNs ArE oBsEsSeD”
You also said multiple other things in your post that I was saying I disagreed with, not with him not being “OP.”
His fans are obsessed with trying to convince "THEMSELVES" as well as the rest of the community that he's this INSANELY OP character. He's pretty good but he's not better than the attack staples in the cosmic class or the 2024 attack staples of last year(offensively at least). Like A LOT of his fans are trying to project him to be.
I can't speak on his overall value as I have yet to face him on defense and (NEITHER CAN HIS FANS CALLING HIM THE BEST COSMIC) but judging offensively he's not THE BEST in any of his eligible categories. Seems like a pretty good champion tho but not by any means the BEST in any of his eligible categories.
Maximum level hater. He’s incredibly well rounded, he’s not “OP” so to say but he’s a top contender for top tier attacker at least lmao. What more could you ask for? Great damage for all content lengths, some incredible utility (panic, triple immunities, stun from combo, easy openings with unstoppable, armor shatter).
Did you read?? You seem to cry alot about what I say on here and It's comically hilarious.
I said he's not "INSANELY OP" and you literally said he's well rounded but not "OP" what are you arguing about then???
I couldn't ask for anything else he's definitely UP THERE but he is not "THE BEST" (like his fans are saying he unarguably is) Do you need me to spell it out for you?? As the guy who commented before me said, "Top 5 cosmic" and I can definitely see him being there. I did however say HE IS NOT THE BEST COSMIC. Why are you still crying???
Your post came off as incredibly condescending and you sound like a twat. “hIs FaNs ArE oBsEsSeD”
You also said multiple other things in your post that I was saying I disagreed with, not with him not being “OP.”
Ohh well then continue shedding tears. You're the one getting upset and I really don't care. I don't notice you on here at all unless you directly reply me.
I said what the 4uk I said. And I will continue to say what I want on here. I don't break the rules. If I make whiny bxtches like you upset, most you can do is rant, you'll live.
I will say this much. He really wants the dupe and max Sig to be considered up there with the best Cosmics. Still crazy strong unduped but you will cost yourself revives in the Necropolis using the unduped one. DJen is where it’s at for the run. The girl cooks hard… so many solos where the fight just felt under full control. I loved Red Guardian healing her back to full when I started the fight with a 20% revive and still got a solo.
First impressions is that his heavy reach seems very short for his size, and the heavy animation are super slow. I’ve been spoiled with Onslaught’s reach.
But, once you gain a counterpunch charge, everything clicks and the damage feels great.
Luckily he has the same ability as Dr Doom and Silk where he can chain a heavy from a combo using a stun passive so you don’t need to parry.
It's more about not being able to easily pause by heavy interrupting the defender. So practically, since his heavy reach isn't that great, the pause ability relies more on counterpunch and having enough energy.
The other thing is that since you are relying so much on Counterpunch (especially if you want to take "advantage" of blocking the last hit of the special), there ends up being chip damage into your block.
His fans are obsessed with trying to convince "THEMSELVES" as well as the rest of the community that he's this INSANELY OP character. He's pretty good but he's not better than the attack staples in the cosmic class or the 2024 attack staples of last year(offensively at least). Like A LOT of his fans are trying to project him to be.
I can't speak on his overall value as I have yet to face him on defense and (NEITHER CAN HIS FANS CALLING HIM THE BEST COSMIC) but judging offensively he's not THE BEST in any of his eligible categories. Seems like a pretty good champion tho but not by any means the BEST in any of his eligible categories.
Maximum level hater. He’s incredibly well rounded, he’s not “OP” so to say but he’s a top contender for top tier attacker at least lmao. What more could you ask for? Great damage for all content lengths, some incredible utility (panic, triple immunities, stun from combo, easy openings with unstoppable, armor shatter).
Did you read?? You seem to cry alot about what I say on here and It's comically hilarious.
I said he's not "INSANELY OP" and you literally said he's well rounded but not "OP" what are you arguing about then???
I couldn't ask for anything else he's definitely UP THERE but he is not "THE BEST" (like his fans are saying he unarguably is) Do you need me to spell it out for you?? As the guy who commented before me said, "Top 5 cosmic" and I can definitely see him being there. I did however say HE IS NOT THE BEST COSMIC. Why are you still crying???
Your post came off as incredibly condescending and you sound like a twat. “hIs FaNs ArE oBsEsSeD”
You also said multiple other things in your post that I was saying I disagreed with, not with him not being “OP.”
Ohh well then continue shedding tears. You're the one getting upset and I really don't care. I don't notice you on here at all unless you directly reply me.
I said what the 4uk I said. And I will continue to say what I want on here. I don't break the rules. If I make whiny bxtches like you upset, most you can do is rant, you'll live.
Dw I’m not wasting any tears over you. I wasn’t getting upset, just disagreeing with your overly negative take and how you came in on your high horse
I don't have him (started playing less than a year ago), but I'm seeing a lot of people say he's great at R3 sig 200? Isn't that the case for a lot of champs?
I don't have him (started playing less than a year ago), but I'm seeing a lot of people say he's great at R3 sig 200? Isn't that the case for a lot of champs?
He’s still very very strong unduped. The dupe just makes him safer and better for BGs. It’s not like the case of my personal vote for best Cosmic, Nova where unduped he’s mediocre and maxed out he’s Super
His fans are obsessed with trying to convince "THEMSELVES" as well as the rest of the community that he's this INSANELY OP character. He's pretty good but he's not better than the attack staples in the cosmic class or the 2024 attack staples of last year(offensively at least). Like A LOT of his fans are trying to project him to be.
I can't speak on his overall value as I have yet to face him on defense and (NEITHER CAN HIS FANS CALLING HIM THE BEST COSMIC) but judging offensively he's not THE BEST in any of his eligible categories. Seems like a pretty good champion tho but not by any means the BEST in any of his eligible categories.
Maximum level hater. He’s incredibly well rounded, he’s not “OP” so to say but he’s a top contender for top tier attacker at least lmao. What more could you ask for? Great damage for all content lengths, some incredible utility (panic, triple immunities, stun from combo, easy openings with unstoppable, armor shatter).
Did you read?? You seem to cry alot about what I say on here and It's comically hilarious.
I said he's not "INSANELY OP" and you literally said he's well rounded but not "OP" what are you arguing about then???
I couldn't ask for anything else he's definitely UP THERE but he is not "THE BEST" (like his fans are saying he unarguably is) Do you need me to spell it out for you?? As the guy who commented before me said, "Top 5 cosmic" and I can definitely see him being there. I did however say HE IS NOT THE BEST COSMIC. Why are you still crying???
Your post came off as incredibly condescending and you sound like a twat. “hIs FaNs ArE oBsEsSeD”
You also said multiple other things in your post that I was saying I disagreed with, not with him not being “OP.”
Ohh well then continue shedding tears. You're the one getting upset and I really don't care. I don't notice you on here at all unless you directly reply me.
I said what the 4uk I said. And I will continue to say what I want on here. I don't break the rules. If I make whiny bxtches like you upset, most you can do is rant, you'll live.
Dw I’m not wasting any tears over you. I wasn’t getting upset, just disagreeing with your overly negative take and how you came in on your high horse
If you can't respectfully disagree, then I don't know what to tell you because I don't come here attacking the next person who says something different from what I believe to be true. That's a low level of maturity and I can't help you with that unfortunately. You came in here swinging at me because I said something different from what you wanted to hear. If that's not being upset and childish then I don't know what is.
Also, I never claimed to be on a "higher horse" than anyone here. If you felt inferior and or threatened by my OPINION for whatever reason, that's a you problem.
And finally, get used to my "Negative" takes. If I disagree with how a champion is perceived I WILL say it. It may be POSITIVE or NEGATIVE. This is a community forum.
I was not impressed with him using him before he was awakened. I found it too difficult to manage and maintain his damage rotation. That being said, once awakened and at least 100 or so sigs he becomes much easier to play and actual enjoy. I'm most likely going to r3 and max sig my 7 star.
he's alright, but playing around with him in the eq, and he should be constantly going unstoppable if he has a counter punch charge, but for whatever reason it just doesn't trigger reliably so fights just end up being confusing. but that didn't happen when i used him with the whole team in other quests so idk whats going on with him
he's alright, but playing around with him in the eq, and he should be constantly going unstoppable if he has a counter punch charge, but for whatever reason it just doesn't trigger reliably so fights just end up being confusing. but that didn't happen when i used him with the whole team in other quests so idk whats going on with him
Are u parrying or not as if u well time block the counterpunch doesnt work
he's alright, but playing around with him in the eq, and he should be constantly going unstoppable if he has a counter punch charge, but for whatever reason it just doesn't trigger reliably so fights just end up being confusing. but that didn't happen when i used him with the whole team in other quests so idk whats going on with him
Are u parrying or not as if u well time block the counterpunch doesnt work
I know he doesn't get it on parries, it's just blocking when the game actually keeps the block but it's happened so many times it's just baffling
he's alright, but playing around with him in the eq, and he should be constantly going unstoppable if he has a counter punch charge, but for whatever reason it just doesn't trigger reliably so fights just end up being confusing. but that didn't happen when i used him with the whole team in other quests so idk whats going on with him
Are u parrying or not as if u well time block the counterpunch doesnt work
I know he doesn't get it on parries, it's just blocking when the game actually keeps the block but it's happened so many times it's just baffling
My hunch is the most vocal overrated crowd don’t even have all the deathless champs, much less DT. I have him r3 unduped. Very high in my rankings for seven star cosmics. He also benefits from being very fun to play.
He’s excellent. Combines great sustainability with fantastic damage and some decent utility, and he’s a solid defender (not serpent level but still a great stall and can be dangerous). He’s incredibly well rounded and anyone saying he’s overrated either doesn’t have him, or they don’t understand what makes a champion good.
When I judge a champion’s performance and relevancy, I typically look at 5 things:
1. How much utility do they have vs their class target? 2. How easy is it to build their damage? 3. How often can they reach their peak? 4. How survivable are they and how many different ways are they survivable (e.g. are they only reliant on a big health pool or do they have damage mitigation, regen etc) 5. How potent are they on BGs/AW defense in a vanilla setting, and how do they interact with defensive nodes?
For me, Thanos ticks pretty much all of these flawlessly.
First, he’s got great utility with access to panic (evade and miss counter through counterpunch), pulverise, armour break and shatter (which now includes passives along with the 200% AAR), immunity to poison and Coldsnap, energise, up to double ability accuracy on personal effects, access to lots of buffs and debuffs including fury and corrosion. Counterpunch can also be considered utility as it’s a free, easy intercept.
Second, the damage is easy to build. Heavy for armour shatter, then sp1 to build 4 furies (guaranteed with 20+ energy) then sp1 to KO them with big crits and corrosion. Using counterpunch speeds up the fight so much as well. Fights are fast and it’s easy to build damage in longer fights too, 8 furies are super easy to maintain.
Third, he peaks quite often. He can gain fury, apply corrosion (incl. passive from sp3) and has the armour shatter. And combining energise and counterpunch really extends his versatility in matchups you wouldn’t expect. The extra ability accuracy also helps in niche situations, and because you have access to the long pause through counterpunch (or punishes) and have your effects expire more slowly, it allows him to do very well even when conditions are not quite right.
Fourth, he’s very sustainable. His health pool is really large, so he can sustain a lot of damage generally. He also has access to protection when he drops below a threshold of 25% (once per fight) which caps damage up to 100% if awakened dependent on his energy level (scales from 40-100%). Also, he has access to a genesis passive on sp1 that heals him for 2% of all damage dealt, similarly to that of OG guillotine. Because Thanos deals such great damage, this healing can be pretty nice, and it’s easy to keep up if you need it as it’s with the sp1. Also, I’d argue his energise and general damage is sustainability as he can close out fights quickly and have frequent access to specials, and counterpunch means he’s not blocking multiple hits trying to get an opening vs stun immune.
Fifth, he’s a pretty solid defender. Take the large health pool, take the protection (that pauses during specials) and scaling energise and you already have a great stall champ. But add in the counterpunch that also grants Thanos unstoppable (if he goes above 2 counterpunch) and the sp2 ‘no retreat’ style instant corrosion, and you have yourself a pretty annoying defender. Especially in BGs and war when there are other nodes or interactions to consider.
So overall, I’d say he’s extremely powerful. And to top it off, he’s incredibly fun to play. One of my favourite champs in the game for sure because of how versatile he is, how much damage he has, the solid utility and great defender strength potential.
He’s excellent. Combines great sustainability with fantastic damage and some decent utility, and he’s a solid defender (not serpent level but still a great stall and can be dangerous). He’s incredibly well rounded and anyone saying he’s overrated either doesn’t have him, or they don’t understand what makes a champion good.
When I judge a champion’s performance and relevancy, I typically look at 5 things:
1. How much utility do they have vs their class target? 2. How easy is it to build their damage? 3. How often can they reach their peak? 4. How survivable are they and how many different ways are they survivable (e.g. are they only reliant on a big health pool or do they have damage mitigation, regen etc) 5. How potent are they on BGs/AW defense in a vanilla setting, and how do they interact with defensive nodes?
For me, Thanos ticks pretty much all of these flawlessly.
First, he’s got great utility with access to panic (evade and miss counter through counterpunch), pulverise, armour break and shatter (which now includes passives along with the 200% AAR), immunity to poison and Coldsnap, energise, up to double ability accuracy on personal effects, access to lots of buffs and debuffs including fury and corrosion. Counterpunch can also be considered utility as it’s a free, easy intercept.
Second, the damage is easy to build. Heavy for armour shatter, then sp1 to build 4 furies (guaranteed with 20+ energy) then sp1 to KO them with big crits and corrosion. Using counterpunch speeds up the fight so much as well. Fights are fast and it’s easy to build damage in longer fights too, 8 furies are super easy to maintain.
Third, he peaks quite often. He can gain fury, apply corrosion (incl. passive from sp3) and has the armour shatter. And combining energise and counterpunch really extends his versatility in matchups you wouldn’t expect. The extra ability accuracy also helps in niche situations, and because you have access to the long pause through counterpunch (or punishes) and have your effects expire more slowly, it allows him to do very well even when conditions are not quite right.
Fourth, he’s very sustainable. His health pool is really large, so he can sustain a lot of damage generally. He also has access to protection when he drops below a threshold of 25% (once per fight) which caps damage up to 100% if awakened dependent on his energy level (scales from 40-100%). Also, he has access to a genesis passive on sp1 that heals him for 2% of all damage dealt, similarly to that of OG guillotine. Because Thanos deals such great damage, this healing can be pretty nice, and it’s easy to keep up if you need it as it’s with the sp1. Also, I’d argue his energise and general damage is sustainability as he can close out fights quickly and have frequent access to specials, and counterpunch means he’s not blocking multiple hits trying to get an opening vs stun immune.
Fifth, he’s a pretty solid defender. Take the large health pool, take the protection (that pauses during specials) and scaling energise and you already have a great stall champ. But add in the counterpunch that also grants Thanos unstoppable (if he goes above 2 counterpunch) and the sp2 ‘no retreat’ style instant corrosion, and you have yourself a pretty annoying defender. Especially in BGs and war when there are other nodes or interactions to consider.
So overall, I’d say he’s extremely powerful. And to top it off, he’s incredibly fun to play. One of my favourite champs in the game for sure because of how versatile he is, how much damage he has, the solid utility and great defender strength potential.
he's alright, but playing around with him in the eq, and he should be constantly going unstoppable if he has a counter punch charge, but for whatever reason it just doesn't trigger reliably so fights just end up being confusing. but that didn't happen when i used him with the whole team in other quests so idk whats going on with him
Are u parrying or not as if u well time block the counterpunch doesnt work
I know he doesn't get it on parries, it's just blocking when the game actually keeps the block but it's happened so many times it's just baffling
he's alright, but playing around with him in the eq, and he should be constantly going unstoppable if he has a counter punch charge, but for whatever reason it just doesn't trigger reliably so fights just end up being confusing. but that didn't happen when i used him with the whole team in other quests so idk whats going on with him
Are u parrying or not as if u well time block the counterpunch doesnt work
I know he doesn't get it on parries, it's just blocking when the game actually keeps the block but it's happened so many times it's just baffling
Might be a bug but mines working fine
If it's a bug it's a funny cause apparently only works in the eq so far I've seen
he's alright, but playing around with him in the eq, and he should be constantly going unstoppable if he has a counter punch charge, but for whatever reason it just doesn't trigger reliably so fights just end up being confusing. but that didn't happen when i used him with the whole team in other quests so idk whats going on with him
Are u parrying or not as if u well time block the counterpunch doesnt work
I know he doesn't get it on parries, it's just blocking when the game actually keeps the block but it's happened so many times it's just baffling
Might be a bug but mines working fine
If it's a bug it's a funny cause apparently only works in the eq so far I've seen
hate all you want but he is inevitable. you tried other champs but where did that lead you? right back to Deathless Mad Titan lol.
i too was hesitant to crown him but i'm convinced. he's one of the top champs in the game. this deathless chase would have been worth it for Death Jen alone but now with Thanos ... super satisfying in the end. all except Vision are very serviceable.
hate all you want but he is inevitable. you tried other champs but where did that lead you? right back to Deathless Mad Titan lol.
i too was hesitant to crown him but i'm convinced. he's one of the top champs in the game. this deathless chase would have been worth it for Death Jen alone but now with Thanos ... super satisfying in the end. all except Vision are very serviceable.
hate all you want but he is inevitable. you tried other champs but where did that lead you? right back to Deathless Mad Titan lol.
i too was hesitant to crown him but i'm convinced. he's one of the top champs in the game. this deathless chase would have been worth it for Death Jen alone but now with Thanos ... super satisfying in the end. all except Vision are very serviceable.
hate all you want but he is inevitable. you tried other champs but where did that lead you? right back to Deathless Mad Titan lol.
i too was hesitant to crown him but i'm convinced. he's one of the top champs in the game. this deathless chase would have been worth it for Death Jen alone but now with Thanos ... super satisfying in the end. all except Vision are very serviceable.
hate all you want but he is inevitable. you tried other champs but where did that lead you? right back to Deathless Mad Titan lol.
i too was hesitant to crown him but i'm convinced. he's one of the top champs in the game. this deathless chase would have been worth it for Death Jen alone but now with Thanos ... super satisfying in the end. all except Vision are very serviceable.
hate all you want but he is inevitable. you tried other champs but where did that lead you? right back to Deathless Mad Titan lol.
i too was hesitant to crown him but i'm convinced. he's one of the top champs in the game. this deathless chase would have been worth it for Death Jen alone but now with Thanos ... super satisfying in the end. all except Vision are very serviceable.
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You also said multiple other things in your post that I was saying I disagreed with, not with him not being “OP.”
You're the one getting upset and I really don't care. I don't notice you on here at all unless you directly reply me.
I said what the 4uk I said. And I will continue to say what I want on here. I don't break the rules.
If I make whiny bxtches like you upset, most you can do is rant, you'll live.
The other thing is that since you are relying so much on Counterpunch (especially if you want to take "advantage" of blocking the last hit of the special), there ends up being chip damage into your block.
Isn't that the case for a lot of champs?
Attack-
1.Hulkling, CGR
2. D.Thanos
4. Scream/ Medusa.
5. Hyperion, venom
Defense-
1. Serpent
2. Maestro
3. D.Thanos ( may be over maestro coz his protection and unstoppable passive and energize will make us stall)
That's a low level of maturity and I can't help you with that unfortunately.
You came in here swinging at me because I said something different from what you wanted to hear. If that's not being upset and childish then I don't know what is.
Also, I never claimed to be on a "higher horse" than anyone here. If you felt inferior and or threatened by my OPINION for whatever reason, that's a you problem.
And finally, get used to my "Negative" takes. If I disagree with how a champion is perceived I WILL say it. It may be POSITIVE or NEGATIVE.
This is a community forum.
but that didn't happen when i used him with the whole team in other quests so idk whats going on with him
When I judge a champion’s performance and relevancy, I typically look at 5 things:
1. How much utility do they have vs their class target?
2. How easy is it to build their damage?
3. How often can they reach their peak?
4. How survivable are they and how many different ways are they survivable (e.g. are they only reliant on a big health pool or do they have damage mitigation, regen etc)
5. How potent are they on BGs/AW defense in a vanilla setting, and how do they interact with defensive nodes?
For me, Thanos ticks pretty much all of these flawlessly.
First, he’s got great utility with access to panic (evade and miss counter through counterpunch), pulverise, armour break and shatter (which now includes passives along with the 200% AAR), immunity to poison and Coldsnap, energise, up to double ability accuracy on personal effects, access to lots of buffs and debuffs including fury and corrosion. Counterpunch can also be considered utility as it’s a free, easy intercept.
Second, the damage is easy to build. Heavy for armour shatter, then sp1 to build 4 furies (guaranteed with 20+ energy) then sp1 to KO them with big crits and corrosion. Using counterpunch speeds up the fight so much as well. Fights are fast and it’s easy to build damage in longer fights too, 8 furies are super easy to maintain.
Third, he peaks quite often. He can gain fury, apply corrosion (incl. passive from sp3) and has the armour shatter. And combining energise and counterpunch really extends his versatility in matchups you wouldn’t expect. The extra ability accuracy also helps in niche situations, and because you have access to the long pause through counterpunch (or punishes) and have your effects expire more slowly, it allows him to do very well even when conditions are not quite right.
Fourth, he’s very sustainable. His health pool is really large, so he can sustain a lot of damage generally. He also has access to protection when he drops below a threshold of 25% (once per fight) which caps damage up to 100% if awakened dependent on his energy level (scales from 40-100%). Also, he has access to a genesis passive on sp1 that heals him for 2% of all damage dealt, similarly to that of OG guillotine. Because Thanos deals such great damage, this healing can be pretty nice, and it’s easy to keep up if you need it as it’s with the sp1. Also, I’d argue his energise and general damage is sustainability as he can close out fights quickly and have frequent access to specials, and counterpunch means he’s not blocking multiple hits trying to get an opening vs stun immune.
Fifth, he’s a pretty solid defender. Take the large health pool, take the protection (that pauses during specials) and scaling energise and you already have a great stall champ. But add in the counterpunch that also grants Thanos unstoppable (if he goes above 2 counterpunch) and the sp2 ‘no retreat’ style instant corrosion, and you have yourself a pretty annoying defender. Especially in BGs and war when there are other nodes or interactions to consider.
So overall, I’d say he’s extremely powerful. And to top it off, he’s incredibly fun to play. One of my favourite champs in the game for sure because of how versatile he is, how much damage he has, the solid utility and great defender strength potential.
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i too was hesitant to crown him but i'm convinced. he's one of the top champs in the game. this deathless chase would have been worth it for Death Jen alone but now with Thanos ... super satisfying in the end. all except Vision are very serviceable.