Given that 6* awakening gems are pretty useless these days, can we stop seeing them at the top monthly prize in content and hate them to Thronebreaker / paragons level. Surely this shows that the top end economy really needs revisiting. Even the most recent buffed rewards feel out of date now.
The problem isn't the rewards, the problem is that we don't have monthly content for Valiant players. If we had a monthly Valiant EQ and/or a monthly Valiant MQ, they would have Valiant rewards, but those don't exist. I don't think giving Valiant rewards for TB content is the solution.
I agree this is a very big problem, it's very close to the top of my list of things we need to address this year.
On this topic, can you speak to whether or not the game team has any plans to add a higher difficulty of EQ? Especially if giving Valiant rewards for TB content isn't an ideal option, then maybe finally taking another step up is the right call? We've had TB for 3+ years now, and two progression levels have come out since it's inception (with possibly a third on the horizon, with 7R4s coming).
Um... The EQ Paragon Gauntlet seems like it's the higher difficulty that's already there. Complete the EQ TB level and unlock Paragon Gauntlet.
Its not really a higher difficulty though? The hardest part about it is trying to pick 3 Champs that work for all 6 fights, but that's only an issue when there's no "Complete the Gauntlet without using a Choice Node" thing.
My suggestion is due to the fact that Crashed said that giving Valiant rewards for TB content isn't an option. So instead of giving Valiant players TB rewards, why not increase it so that you don't have to make that choice? Many Valiant players already believe that TB EQ isn't worth the time spent, and getting a confirmation that higher rewards aren't coming is just going to solidify that.
In what sense? In that it isn't something you're interested in? In that, they are trying to provide a solution for a problem they know exists? In that it didn't benefit you so you're sad? In that it isn't what you'd have done? In that you thought it should be something different so you're outraged because you missed the point of the trade in?
Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
Why not give the possibility to exchange awakening gem for shards of superior tiers awakening gem ?
I would gladly trade my 6 stars awakening gem for shards of 7 stars awakening gem
I would assume so they don't have to create a new item. This, is faster and easier to implement.
The item already exist as we could grab some 7 stars awakening gem shards during the banquet
I don't know if you can answer this, but can you confirm that there are no immediate (or even better, far away) plans to create a trade-in event like we had years ago with awakening gems? If I can get a confirmation from Crashed, it would really help and then I could consider the trade in a win.
That’s why I will keep my gem, just in case !
The game give so many 7 stars shards to add 20 to your champion’s signature, selling 6 stars awakening gem is not worth the deal.
Given that 6* awakening gems are pretty useless these days, can we stop seeing them at the top monthly prize in content and hate them to Thronebreaker / paragons level. Surely this shows that the top end economy really needs revisiting. Even the most recent buffed rewards feel out of date now.
The problem isn't the rewards, the problem is that we don't have monthly content for Valiant players. If we had a monthly Valiant EQ and/or a monthly Valiant MQ, they would have Valiant rewards, but those don't exist. I don't think giving Valiant rewards for TB content is the solution.
I agree this is a very big problem, it's very close to the top of my list of things we need to address this year.
On this topic, can you speak to whether or not the game team has any plans to add a higher difficulty of EQ? Especially if giving Valiant rewards for TB content isn't an ideal option, then maybe finally taking another step up is the right call? We've had TB for 3+ years now, and two progression levels have come out since it's inception (with possibly a third on the horizon, with 7R4s coming).
They already responded earlier today that it was higher on the list to consider this year.
Hello. There are players with hundreds of these and no 6-stars to awaken. I have around 50 I think and nothing to do with them. I will absolutely be trading them in.
I'm sure most of you want more, but nobody is forcing you to do this. If you value the 6-star gems more just keep them.
Why not give the possibility to exchange awakening gem for shards of superior tiers awakening gem ?
I would gladly trade my 6 stars awakening gem for shards of 7 stars awakening gem
I would assume so they don't have to create a new item. This, is faster and easier to implement.
The item already exist as we could grab some 7 stars awakening gem shards during the banquet
I don't know if you can answer this, but can you confirm that there are no immediate (or even better, far away) plans to create a trade-in event like we had years ago with awakening gems? If I can get a confirmation from Crashed, it would really help and then I could consider the trade in a win.
Would be good to know. Those trade in events were very well regarded events
I thought that there was only one, wasn't there? But everyone did love it
Caps commissary was not as good but it had a few decent options
I love how a lot of players put on their Captain Ahab suits and think they are going to catch up on Whales for free, asking for 7* awakening or gems in exchange of 6* AGs.... See what happens when you implant the wrong ideas of item acquisition @Kabam Crashed? Now you got people thinking they should be able to acquire 7* AGs for free just by doing simple things like the Paragon gauntlet...
I love how a lot of players put on their Captain Ahab suits and think they are going to catch up on Whales for free, asking for 7* awakening or gems in exchange of 6* AGs.... See what happens when you implant the wrong ideas of item acquisition @Kabam Crashed? Now you got people thinking they should be able to acquire 7* AGs for free just by doing simple things like the Paragon gauntlet...
I mean now that they are out it isn't unreasonable for people to want a way of acquiring the shards for 7*gems so that they might get one every few months, even If it's something like 500 shards for doing something like the paragon gauntlet or 500 shards (once) per week/month from trading an AG in the new sigil.
I love how a lot of players put on their Captain Ahab suits and think they are going to catch up on Whales for free, asking for 7* awakening or gems in exchange of 6* AGs.... See what happens when you implant the wrong ideas of item acquisition @Kabam Crashed? Now you got people thinking they should be able to acquire 7* AGs for free just by doing simple things like the Paragon gauntlet...
I mean now that they are out it isn't unreasonable for people to want a way of acquiring the shards for 7*gems so that they might get one every few months, even If it's something like 500 shards for doing something like the paragon gauntlet or 500 shards (once) per week/month from trading an AG in the new sigil.
Its one of the new top items, it was introduced during CM and Banquet. Their intention with it its pretty clear, slowly allow people to acquire them thru events and content. That is not enough, people want to be able to trade useless trash they got sitting in their inventory for the new item, entitlement and greed that's what it is.
I love how a lot of players put on their Captain Ahab suits and think they are going to catch up on Whales for free, asking for 7* awakening or gems in exchange of 6* AGs.... See what happens when you implant the wrong ideas of item acquisition @Kabam Crashed? Now you got people thinking they should be able to acquire 7* AGs for free just by doing simple things like the Paragon gauntlet...
I mean now that they are out it isn't unreasonable for people to want a way of acquiring the shards for 7*gems so that they might get one every few months, even If it's something like 500 shards for doing something like the paragon gauntlet or 500 shards (once) per week/month from trading an AG in the new sigil.
Its one of the new top items, it was introduced during CM and Banquet. Their intention with it its pretty clear, slowly allow people to acquire them thru events and content. That is not enough, people want to be able to trade useless trash they got sitting in their inventory for the new item, entitlement and greed that's what it is.
Right so letting people trade in hundreds of these for shards isn't the answer but, combining with the sigil to let people trade a few per month for a fraction of a 7* gem wouldn't break anything. Whales would gain at the same rate as people who have a few stocked up. Would take months to gain a full gem and would be paying for the sigil. And would still be finding a use for the useless gems.
From a non trade in perspective. Giving the top title the ability to get 500/1000 shards per month through something like the monthly side quest solo objective instead of the 6* AG or the gauntlet again wouldn't break anything. Would take 20/10 months to get enough shards through this means alone.
Good concept, bad exchange rate. I’d love to know how many valiants have more than 50…
They always have an excuse for every bad decision they make in the game. And there are many bad and very underwhelming decisions they've made lately. I find this as an insult to the player base.
I love how a lot of players put on their Captain Ahab suits and think they are going to catch up on Whales for free, asking for 7* awakening or gems in exchange of 6* AGs.... See what happens when you implant the wrong ideas of item acquisition @Kabam Crashed? Now you got people thinking they should be able to acquire 7* AGs for free just by doing simple things like the Paragon gauntlet...
I mean now that they are out it isn't unreasonable for people to want a way of acquiring the shards for 7*gems so that they might get one every few months, even If it's something like 500 shards for doing something like the paragon gauntlet or 500 shards (once) per week/month from trading an AG in the new sigil.
Its one of the new top items, it was introduced during CM and Banquet. Their intention with it its pretty clear, slowly allow people to acquire them thru events and content. That is not enough, people want to be able to trade useless trash they got sitting in their inventory for the new item, entitlement and greed that's what it is.
Right so letting people trade in hundreds of these for shards isn't the answer but, combining with the sigil to let people trade a few per month for a fraction of a 7* gem wouldn't break anything. Whales would gain at the same rate as people who have a few stocked up. Would take months to gain a full gem and would be paying for the sigil. And would still be finding a use for the useless gems.
From a non trade in perspective. Giving the top title the ability to get 500/1000 shards per month through something like the monthly side quest solo objective instead of the 6* AG or the gauntlet again wouldn't break anything. Would take 20/10 months to get enough shards through this means alone.
There is not a single shard from harder content, not a single shard from higher tier war, not a single shard on raids or high AQ maps, and people expect to have a trade from the Paragon Gaunlet rofl.. This 6* AGs were the equivalent of an MCoC meme, people even joked about how many they got and how useless they are; but it seems they only increased value AFTER, the announcement...
We get something for nothing pretty much. It's a good change. Would it be nice if it was a +2 gem or +5 gem, yes, but again it's something we can use instead of having no use for so in my opinion it's good.
It would have been better if it was linked to 7 star awakening shards, but we are a bit early to understand what a good trade would be. If they gave us 10 shards, we would likely complain to want 100 shards per awakening gem sold, if they gave us 100, we would ask for 1000 shards.
I love how a lot of players put on their Captain Ahab suits and think they are going to catch up on Whales for free, asking for 7* awakening or gems in exchange of 6* AGs.... See what happens when you implant the wrong ideas of item acquisition @Kabam Crashed? Now you got people thinking they should be able to acquire 7* AGs for free just by doing simple things like the Paragon gauntlet...
I mean now that they are out it isn't unreasonable for people to want a way of acquiring the shards for 7*gems so that they might get one every few months, even If it's something like 500 shards for doing something like the paragon gauntlet or 500 shards (once) per week/month from trading an AG in the new sigil.
Its one of the new top items, it was introduced during CM and Banquet. Their intention with it its pretty clear, slowly allow people to acquire them thru events and content. That is not enough, people want to be able to trade useless trash they got sitting in their inventory for the new item, entitlement and greed that's what it is.
Right so letting people trade in hundreds of these for shards isn't the answer but, combining with the sigil to let people trade a few per month for a fraction of a 7* gem wouldn't break anything. Whales would gain at the same rate as people who have a few stocked up. Would take months to gain a full gem and would be paying for the sigil. And would still be finding a use for the useless gems.
From a non trade in perspective. Giving the top title the ability to get 500/1000 shards per month through something like the monthly side quest solo objective instead of the 6* AG or the gauntlet again wouldn't break anything. Would take 20/10 months to get enough shards through this means alone.
There is not a single shard from harder content, not a single shard from higher tier war, not a single shard on raids or high AQ maps, and people expect to have a trade from the Paragon Gaunlet rofl.. This 6* AGs were the equivalent of an MCoC meme, people even joked about how many they got and how useless they are; but it seems they only increased value AFTER, the announcement...
I don't really care about the mechanism for obtaining, but you honestly think getting the shards to get one 7* awakening gem every 10 months or so, maybe 2 if you pay for sigil is too much? When in that time there will be more content releases with them too
I love how a lot of players put on their Captain Ahab suits and think they are going to catch up on Whales for free, asking for 7* awakening or gems in exchange of 6* AGs.... See what happens when you implant the wrong ideas of item acquisition @Kabam Crashed? Now you got people thinking they should be able to acquire 7* AGs for free just by doing simple things like the Paragon gauntlet...
I mean now that they are out it isn't unreasonable for people to want a way of acquiring the shards for 7*gems so that they might get one every few months, even If it's something like 500 shards for doing something like the paragon gauntlet or 500 shards (once) per week/month from trading an AG in the new sigil.
Its one of the new top items, it was introduced during CM and Banquet. Their intention with it its pretty clear, slowly allow people to acquire them thru events and content. That is not enough, people want to be able to trade useless trash they got sitting in their inventory for the new item, entitlement and greed that's what it is.
Right so letting people trade in hundreds of these for shards isn't the answer but, combining with the sigil to let people trade a few per month for a fraction of a 7* gem wouldn't break anything. Whales would gain at the same rate as people who have a few stocked up. Would take months to gain a full gem and would be paying for the sigil. And would still be finding a use for the useless gems.
From a non trade in perspective. Giving the top title the ability to get 500/1000 shards per month through something like the monthly side quest solo objective instead of the 6* AG or the gauntlet again wouldn't break anything. Would take 20/10 months to get enough shards through this means alone.
There is not a single shard from harder content, not a single shard from higher tier war, not a single shard on raids or high AQ maps, and people expect to have a trade from the Paragon Gaunlet rofl.. This 6* AGs were the equivalent of an MCoC meme, people even joked about how many they got and how useless they are; but it seems they only increased value AFTER, the announcement...
I don't really care about the mechanism for obtaining, but you honestly think getting the shards to get one 7* awakening gem every 10 months or so, maybe 2 if you pay for sigil is too much? When in that time there will be more content releases with them too
Yes, specially since its a farmable item from lower progression. And cutting 10 months to 2 thru sigil is even crazier lol
I love how a lot of players put on their Captain Ahab suits and think they are going to catch up on Whales for free, asking for 7* awakening or gems in exchange of 6* AGs.... See what happens when you implant the wrong ideas of item acquisition @Kabam Crashed? Now you got people thinking they should be able to acquire 7* AGs for free just by doing simple things like the Paragon gauntlet...
I mean now that they are out it isn't unreasonable for people to want a way of acquiring the shards for 7*gems so that they might get one every few months, even If it's something like 500 shards for doing something like the paragon gauntlet or 500 shards (once) per week/month from trading an AG in the new sigil.
Its one of the new top items, it was introduced during CM and Banquet. Their intention with it its pretty clear, slowly allow people to acquire them thru events and content. That is not enough, people want to be able to trade useless trash they got sitting in their inventory for the new item, entitlement and greed that's what it is.
Right so letting people trade in hundreds of these for shards isn't the answer but, combining with the sigil to let people trade a few per month for a fraction of a 7* gem wouldn't break anything. Whales would gain at the same rate as people who have a few stocked up. Would take months to gain a full gem and would be paying for the sigil. And would still be finding a use for the useless gems.
From a non trade in perspective. Giving the top title the ability to get 500/1000 shards per month through something like the monthly side quest solo objective instead of the 6* AG or the gauntlet again wouldn't break anything. Would take 20/10 months to get enough shards through this means alone.
There is not a single shard from harder content, not a single shard from higher tier war, not a single shard on raids or high AQ maps, and people expect to have a trade from the Paragon Gaunlet rofl.. This 6* AGs were the equivalent of an MCoC meme, people even joked about how many they got and how useless they are; but it seems they only increased value AFTER, the announcement...
I don't really care about the mechanism for obtaining, but you honestly think getting the shards to get one 7* awakening gem every 10 months or so, maybe 2 if you pay for sigil is too much? When in that time there will be more content releases with them too
Yes, specially since its a farmable item from lower progression. And cutting 10 months to 2 thru sigil is event crazier lol
Sorry by 2 I meant 2 awakening gems per 10 months for people paying, not 2 months per gem.
Having some means of getting the shards equivalent of a 7* awakening gem for your average end game player per 10 months or so be it monthly solo event, battleground store, AW rewards or something, and 1 way for people who pay for sigil...the 6* ag portion of it is irrelevant. People would effectively be paying 9.99 a month and getting 500 shards, the draining a few 6* gems from an inventory is just a bonus.
Calling the 6* Awakening Gem (AG) useless but then asking for higher-rarity items in exchange feels contradictory. The exchange is meant for players who want to clear their inventory, and if the 6* AG is truly useless, anything received in return should be welcomed.
Demanding more implies the 6* AG still holds value. Naturally, exchanges will always provide less—just like how a 100-unit team revive sells for 1,000 gold, or one Odin is worth only 30k gold.
The real focus should be on introducing a 'Valiant' difficulty side quest (Threat Level 6!) where the top milestone reward is something other than a 6* AG.
I don’t understand why we as a playerbase are so ungrateful, this is nice of them to do and they aren’t obligated too.
You get what you get and you don’t get upset
the mouthbreathers in the community swore up and down in the banquet sucks thread that they're reasonable people.
another day, another complaint...same bozos. it never changes.
You really gotta learn to read. It is painful how poor your assumptions are. Apparently not all mouth breathers own a mirror…
Plenty of the people who disagreed with you then actually think this is a W. But based on how you kept drooling over Cyber then I’m not surprised your still hung up on the last time you suffered for us all 🙄
forum fatigue is real. the constant complaining over everything is getting to me and i'm slowly turning into a white knight. i'll try to not to let the pendulum swing too far and be objective when it matters (so far i think i have).
Yes,..but you have to temper that frustration and try to see the other side of the story to see that ends frustration and where it’s all coming from. This game makes boat loads of money and it’s CONSTANTLY BUGGED,..every update and every month it is this way,..champions that are invested in not working properly. They fix something (or are unable to),.,and the next month different champions or features within the game are bugged. This breeds discontent and complaints,..and even more unrelated complaints,..,it is the nature of the beast.
Daaaam KABAM CRASHED!!!! Really thought he was gonna bring new ideas, ways of playing the game when he joined. So dam disappointed!!! Should’ve known better than to trust any Kabam employee!! That was my fault. It’s not all on him, but seriously been pissing me off with all his flippant responses lately. Shrugged off Banquet day 1, REFUSED to check back til days after it was over. Talking about his 50 6* awakening gems (like that’s some how the norm in the game)???? Get real dude!!! Yes some have, vast majority do not!! And why is this HORRIBLE TRADE IN Valiant only??? It’s sooo dam bad, conquerer level should get this ****. 1 sig?!?!?! Crashed looking more like Miike every day now! Dork didn’t do anything for game/players either. SELLOUT!!!
Soooooo many disagree and such in comments, yet Kabam crashed and all else completely ignore. THE WHOLE PLAYER BASE EVERYDAY?!?!?! Nothing will make a dent without a V12 kinda boycott!! Not Calling for it on this, obviously. Needs to happen soon to check Kabam on horrible gameplay/AI, bugs and just most horrible decisions for a very long time
Daaaam KABAM CRASHED!!!! Really thought he was gonna bring new ideas, ways of playing the game when he joined. So dam disappointed!!! Should’ve known better than to trust any Kabam employee!! That was my fault. It’s not all on him, but seriously been pissing me off with all his flippant responses lately. Shrugged off Banquet day 1, REFUSED to check back til days after it was over. Talking about his 50 6* awakening gems (like that’s some how the norm in the game)???? Get real dude!!! Yes some have, vast majority do not!! And why is this HORRIBLE TRADE IN Valiant only??? It’s sooo dam bad, conquerer level should get this ****. 1 sig?!?!?! Crashed looking more like Miike every day now! Dork didn’t do anything for game/players either. SELLOUT!!!
man, they really expect something for nothing...
mcoc's highest value resources:
1. t7b 2. 7* awakening gems 3/4. either sig stones or t4a
why would they let us trade an item (6* AGs) that is probably somewhere in the top 20 in value for the second most valuable item in the game? how does that work economically?
an item has to go through a bunch of places before it's allowed to be traded.
1. they have to milk it for as much as they can for cash (banquet, cyber monday/july 4/spring cleaning) and then adding it to regular cash offers. 2. then it might get placed in content that's mostly accessible to variants at first (everest stuff, then eventually BGs, and then tiny amounts in SQ). 3. only when its lost some value will they let us trade and those trades won't be the greatest value either and for good reason.
sig stones are very valuable but they've been in cash offers for a while and we've seen them in EOP all year and now a ton in carina's and also in the daily event, but awakening gems not counting the nefaria saga sale was first seen in cyber monday and then banquet, so there's tons of monetization left before they can start opening up the taps.
some of you want to trade a dozen junk cars for a 2025 ferrari and then nagging the company for not doing it. it's so entitled.
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My suggestion is due to the fact that Crashed said that giving Valiant rewards for TB content isn't an option. So instead of giving Valiant players TB rewards, why not increase it so that you don't have to make that choice? Many Valiant players already believe that TB EQ isn't worth the time spent, and getting a confirmation that higher rewards aren't coming is just going to solidify that.
But please, why is it poorly thought out?
The game give so many 7 stars shards to add 20 to your champion’s signature, selling 6 stars awakening gem is not worth the deal.
See what happens when you implant the wrong ideas of item acquisition @Kabam Crashed?
Now you got people thinking they should be able to acquire 7* AGs for free just by doing simple things like the Paragon gauntlet...
From a non trade in perspective. Giving the top title the ability to get 500/1000 shards per month through something like the monthly side quest solo objective instead of the 6* AG or the gauntlet again wouldn't break anything. Would take 20/10 months to get enough shards through this means alone.
I find this as an insult to the player base.
This 6* AGs were the equivalent of an MCoC meme, people even joked about how many they got and how useless they are; but it seems they only increased value AFTER, the announcement...
It would have been better if it was linked to 7 star awakening shards, but we are a bit early to understand what a good trade would be. If they gave us 10 shards, we would likely complain to want 100 shards per awakening gem sold, if they gave us 100, we would ask for 1000 shards.
Overall for now I think it's cool.
Having some means of getting the shards equivalent of a 7* awakening gem for your average end game player per 10 months or so be it monthly solo event, battleground store, AW rewards or something, and 1 way for people who pay for sigil...the 6* ag portion of it is irrelevant. People would effectively be paying 9.99 a month and getting 500 shards, the draining a few 6* gems from an inventory is just a bonus.
Demanding more implies the 6* AG still holds value. Naturally, exchanges will always provide less—just like how a 100-unit team revive sells for 1,000 gold, or one Odin is worth only 30k gold.
The real focus should be on introducing a 'Valiant' difficulty side quest (Threat Level 6!) where the top milestone reward is something other than a 6* AG.
This game makes boat loads of money and it’s CONSTANTLY BUGGED,..every update and every month it is this way,..champions that are invested in not working properly.
They fix something (or are unable to),.,and the next month different champions or features within the game are bugged.
This breeds discontent and complaints,..and even more unrelated complaints,..,it is the nature of the beast.
now we have a patch solution of trading them.
and eq being left in the dust with throne breakers but other rewards moving up the level to valiant is frustrating
Calling for it on this, obviously. Needs to happen soon to check Kabam on horrible gameplay/AI, bugs and just most horrible decisions for a very long time
mcoc's highest value resources:
1. t7b
2. 7* awakening gems
3/4. either sig stones or t4a
why would they let us trade an item (6* AGs) that is probably somewhere in the top 20 in value for the second most valuable item in the game? how does that work economically?
an item has to go through a bunch of places before it's allowed to be traded.
1. they have to milk it for as much as they can for cash (banquet, cyber monday/july 4/spring cleaning) and then adding it to regular cash offers.
2. then it might get placed in content that's mostly accessible to variants at first (everest stuff, then eventually BGs, and then tiny amounts in SQ).
3. only when its lost some value will they let us trade and those trades won't be the greatest value either and for good reason.
sig stones are very valuable but they've been in cash offers for a while and we've seen them in EOP all year and now a ton in carina's and also in the daily event, but awakening gems not counting the nefaria saga sale was first seen in cyber monday and then banquet, so there's tons of monetization left before they can start opening up the taps.
some of you want to trade a dozen junk cars for a 2025 ferrari and then nagging the company for not doing it. it's so entitled.