Overall thoughts on Deathless Thanos

Now that everyone has the opportunity to do the Deathless mausoleum and the Deathless Necropolis run (or you have done it already), what is your opinion on Deathless Thanos? Do you think he’s a top 5 cosmic? How do you think he’ll do as a defender?

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Eakomo

@Eakomo if you had used him in the cosmic quest of eq, the falter applies an AAR
Without falter the counter punch still fails, against the 1.1 boss still didn't fully work
If shocker was unblockable, which he can, the unstoppable will fail

he wasn't and tbh i'll try him out in other places but from what i've experienced the counterpunch doesn't work 100% for whatever reason

TrongNov

R2ed him but tbh, not impressed so far. However, he makes me feel some kind of achievement for completing the deathless collection.

Nameless_IW

He’s excellent. Combines great sustainability with fantastic damage and some decent utility, and he’s a solid defender (not serpent level but still a great stall and can be dangerous). He’s incredibly well rounded and anyone saying he’s overrated either doesn’t have him, or they don’t understand what makes a champion good.

When I judge a champion’s performance and relevancy, I typically look at 5 things:

1. How much utility do they have vs their class target?
2. How easy is it to build their damage?
3. How often can they reach their peak?
4. How survivable are they and how many different ways are they survivable (e.g. are they only reliant on a big health pool or do they have damage mitigation, regen etc)
5. How potent are they on BGs/AW defense in a vanilla setting, and how do they interact with defensive nodes?

For me, Thanos ticks pretty much all of these flawlessly.

First, he’s got great utility with access to panic (evade and miss counter through counterpunch), pulverise, armour break and shatter (which now includes passives along with the 200% AAR), immunity to poison and Coldsnap, energise, up to double ability accuracy on personal effects, access to lots of buffs and debuffs including fury and corrosion. Counterpunch can also be considered utility as it’s a free, easy intercept.

Second, the damage is easy to build. Heavy for armour shatter, then sp1 to build 4 furies (guaranteed with 20+ energy) then sp1 to KO them with big crits and corrosion. Using counterpunch speeds up the fight so much as well. Fights are fast and it’s easy to build damage in longer fights too, 8 furies are super easy to maintain.

Third, he peaks quite often. He can gain fury, apply corrosion (incl. passive from sp3) and has the armour shatter. And combining energise and counterpunch really extends his versatility in matchups you wouldn’t expect. The extra ability accuracy also helps in niche situations, and because you have access to the long pause through counterpunch (or punishes) and have your effects expire more slowly, it allows him to do very well even when conditions are not quite right.

Fourth, he’s very sustainable. His health pool is really large, so he can sustain a lot of damage generally. He also has access to protection when he drops below a threshold of 25% (once per fight) which caps damage up to 100% if awakened dependent on his energy level (scales from 40-100%). Also, he has access to a genesis passive on sp1 that heals him for 2% of all damage dealt, similarly to that of OG guillotine. Because Thanos deals such great damage, this healing can be pretty nice, and it’s easy to keep up if you need it as it’s with the sp1. Also, I’d argue his energise and general damage is sustainability as he can close out fights quickly and have frequent access to specials, and counterpunch means he’s not blocking multiple hits trying to get an opening vs stun immune.

Fifth, he’s a pretty solid defender. Take the large health pool, take the protection (that pauses during specials) and scaling energise and you already have a great stall champ. But add in the counterpunch that also grants Thanos unstoppable (if he goes above 2 counterpunch) and the sp2 ‘no retreat’ style instant corrosion, and you have yourself a pretty annoying defender. Especially in BGs and war when there are other nodes or interactions to consider.

So overall, I’d say he’s extremely powerful. And to top it off, he’s incredibly fun to play. One of my favourite champs in the game for sure because of how versatile he is, how much damage he has, the solid utility and great defender strength potential.

This was amazing. Thank you so much for taking the time.

Dr. Crab

Deathless Thanos is exactly how you wish all champs would be. He’s strong, fun to use, has a great team around him and has enough limitations where you know he’s not gonna be nerfed. He reminds me of Elden Ring, just actually well made upon release.

EdisonLaw

R2ed him but tbh, not impressed so far. However, he makes me feel some kind of achievement for completing the deathless collection.

Maybe rank 3 him, then he'll impress you.

ThePredator1001

R2ed him but tbh, not impressed so far. However, he makes me feel some kind of achievement for completing the deathless collection.
Maybe rank 3 him, then he'll impress you.

I think it’s more about learning how to use him, the getting him duped and max sig also makes a huge difference. Before the dupe he felt like he took a while to ramp up and start dealing good damage but at max sig he is a nuke for short fights.

Antsiou

Just finished necro and She-Hulk has been the mvp by far. Thanos didn’t really do anything special on this run for me. I’m considering pouring sig into She-Hulk, but the would that be a mistake to not use them on Thanos?

EdisonLaw

Just finished necro and She-Hulk has been the mvp by far. Thanos didn’t really do anything special on this run for me. I’m considering pouring sig into She-Hulk, but the would that be a mistake to not use them on Thanos?

I think it's better to use the deathless stones on Thanos

ThePredator1001

Just finished necro and She-Hulk has been the mvp by far. Thanos didn’t really do anything special on this run for me. I’m considering pouring sig into She-Hulk, but the would that be a mistake to not use them on Thanos?

I think that would be a mistake, Thanos sig is like Knulls, both solid champs for longer fights, but at max sig they are able to do short fights quickly as well. She hulks sig wouldn’t be bad to invest in but I don’t think she needs the sigs as much.

ChrisPowell

I'm really lazy these days with this game. If I have to read and reread and watch a couple videos to maximize a champion I'm probably not going to like them that much. My awakened r3 Thanos probably isn't going to go into regular rotation for at least a few months.

I think I can do his sp1 rotation now. He randomly goes unblockable when there's a yellow icon. The sp2 sometimes does a lot of damage. I don't know what is going with him. Build charges and he does stuff.

ThePredator1001

I'm really lazy these days with this game. If I have to read and reread and watch a couple videos to maximize a champion I'm probably not going to like them that much. My awakened r3 Thanos probably isn't going to go into regular rotation for at least a few months.

I think I can do his sp1 rotation now. He randomly goes unblockable when there's a yellow icon. The sp2 sometimes does a lot of damage. I don't know what is going with him. Build charges and he does stuff.

Simplified explanation: he builds charges when hitting the defender. Every 10 charges gives him a counter punch charge, when he blocks an attack with a counter punch active he goes unstoppable and his furries and armor shatter debuff. At 30 charges you can armor shatter them by throwing his heavy. Sp1 gives furries (max 8), sp2 does more damage the less armor they have, best damage after armor shattering them and gaining 6-8 furries. Sp3 is for long fights and makes him gain charges faster. he’s kind of complicated but once you understand his kit it all flows together nicely.

Antsiou

@ThePredator1001 @EdisonLaw thanks for the advices. Will play around with Thanos a bit more to see how well I like him.