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Math ain't mathin at Kabam

Archit_1812Archit_1812 Member Posts: 621 ★★★
Kabam, This "Trade" Offer is a Complete Insult to Valiants!

Are you kidding us, Kabam? You expect us to trade ONE precious 6* Awakening Gem for ONE 7* Signature Stone? That’s not just a bad deal—it’s outright disrespectful to your player base.

Let’s break this down:
We get ONE 6* Awakening Gem a month. That’s ONE gem to awaken a 6* champion of our choice—something with real, game-changing value. And you’re telling us we should give that up for ONE measly 7* Signature Stone?! A stone that barely moves the needle on any 7* champion’s abilities?

Even if we sell every single gem we earn, which is ONE A MONTH, it takes an entire year of sacrificing gems just to add a small bump to ONE 7* champion's sig level. This “trade” is not only unfair, but it’s also laughably impractical.

What’s worse is the complete lack of respect for how much effort goes into earning those gems. Awakening Gems are rare and pivotal resources for advancing our rosters. Offering a 1:1 ratio is a slap in the face to anyone who’s spent time grinding and investing in the game.

Kabam, if you want to make this a real offer, the trade should be at least 10–15 Signature Stones per Awakening Gem. THAT would make sense and actually give players a reason to consider the exchange.

Right now, this "offer" is nothing but a joke. Do better. Respect your players.
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Comments

  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,018 ★★★★
    You're not supposed to be earning awakening gems to trade for sig stones. If and when you have so many awakening gems that you can't even use it, then you trade it
  • Alone13Alone13 Member Posts: 98
    I was like WTF at first, but after Crashed response I realised that it was true. But Hopefully in future they change this to something sensible after everyone drains their 6* AGs.
  • Wubbie075Wubbie075 Member Posts: 763 ★★★
    Kabam doesn't expect you to do anything. They present offers. If you like the offer, take it. If you don't like it, don't. Which is, of course, Kabam's official position on this sort of thing.

    Everything is an insult, disrespect, slap in the face. You people are so fragile. There are much more important things to get upset about.
  • kvirrkvirr Member Posts: 1,143 ★★★★
    like @Demonzfyre said, if you value your “precious” 6* awakening gems, then the offer wasn’t made for you, remember, there are other players who are still better then you, and there are players who can benefit from this offer, does it make sense in hindsight ( wait a month to get 1 sig) no, because it wasn’t made for that, it was made as a one time sort of thing that you guys can trade your spare gems for something, instead of them collecting dust.


    I still would recommend holding onto a few, incase they buff it or a champion you like you pull as a 6*, e.x they release 6* magik or quake you can awaken them
  • ahmynutsahmynuts Member Posts: 7,918 ★★★★★
    I traded all of my awakening gems almost immediately. Precious is a very very very strong word to use here
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 6,387 ★★★★★

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  • Trek26Trek26 Member Posts: 255 ★★
    My only gripe about this is that it seems that they only made this happen because whales had way too much awakening gems and literally couldn’t awaken 6* champs so kabam had to cater to them
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,571 ★★★★★
    edited January 11
    Trek26 said:

    My only gripe about this is that it seems that they only made this happen because whales had way too much awakening gems and literally couldn’t awaken 6* champs so kabam had to cater to them

    Why is providing a solution to something that doesn't affect you, catering to someone else?

    Any Valiant player can use the trade in. If it was catering to those people, only they would have it.
  • GroundedWisdomGroundedWisdom Member Posts: 36,723 ★★★★★
    If you're at the point where trading them is a necessity, then they're no longer precious. That's the whole purpose of this. Not as a viable option to trade up.
  • Wasy1Wasy1 Member Posts: 115
    So we will be getting 1 sig stone every month yehh 🙌
  • FishSkinFishSkin Member Posts: 84
    Wasy1 said:

    So we will be getting 1 sig stone every month yehh 🙌

    Better than an awakening gem you can’t use
  • Trek26Trek26 Member Posts: 255 ★★

    Trek26 said:

    My only gripe about this is that it seems that they only made this happen because whales had way too much awakening gems and literally couldn’t awaken 6* champs so kabam had to cater to them

    Why is providing a solution to something that doesn't affect you, catering to someone else?

    Any Valiant player can use the trade in. If it was catering to those people, only they would have it.
    All valiant aren’t whales that have hundreds of awakening gems. I understand the trade isn’t for everyone but it seems like they just did it for the whales that have hundreds of awakening gems.
  • Awesomep12Awesomep12 Member Posts: 1,633 ★★★★
    PT_99 said:

    Kebem thinks it's perfectly fine to give one 7* sig stone daily from daily quest,
    Kebem also thinks it's perfectly fine to trade one 6* gem for one 7* sig

    Unfortunately Kebem needs to think more.
    Big L

    Doesn't make sense at all.

    1:5 will be cool.

    This
  • Twist1298Twist1298 Member Posts: 209
    Trek26 said:

    My only gripe about this is that it seems that they only made this happen because whales had way too much awakening gems and literally couldn’t awaken 6* champs so kabam had to cater to them

    Just like most things are, it's always geared towards the end game players vs everyone else even though the numbers are a majority non end game. It will always be this way unless the game ends or something happens to shift the focus.
  • Joker1976Joker1976 Member Posts: 807 ★★★
    edited January 11
    It’s in the eye of the beholder i suppose.
    I only had 10 generic 6* awakening gems and i traded those all in as well as a couple skill and science.
    They aren’t that “.valuable” to me because there isn’t any 6 star champ that i am really all that desperate or interested to awaken as i am much more leaning to 7 star rank ups and investing my resources into them.
    Besides,..they aren’t all that hard for valiants to come by these days.
  • BloodyRoseBloodyRose Member Posts: 255
    Maybe you'd all be happier if they made them un-sellable again.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 6,387 ★★★★★

    Maybe you'd all be happier if they made them un-sellable again.

    50k Gold
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,571 ★★★★★
    Trek26 said:

    Trek26 said:

    My only gripe about this is that it seems that they only made this happen because whales had way too much awakening gems and literally couldn’t awaken 6* champs so kabam had to cater to them

    Why is providing a solution to something that doesn't affect you, catering to someone else?

    Any Valiant player can use the trade in. If it was catering to those people, only they would have it.
    All valiant aren’t whales that have hundreds of awakening gems. I understand the trade isn’t for everyone but it seems like they just did it for the whales that have hundreds of awakening gems.
    Yes?
  • Average_DesiAverage_Desi Member Posts: 1,018 ★★★★
    Trek26 said:

    Trek26 said:

    My only gripe about this is that it seems that they only made this happen because whales had way too much awakening gems and literally couldn’t awaken 6* champs so kabam had to cater to them

    Why is providing a solution to something that doesn't affect you, catering to someone else?

    Any Valiant player can use the trade in. If it was catering to those people, only they would have it.
    All valiant aren’t whales that have hundreds of awakening gems. I understand the trade isn’t for everyone but it seems like they just did it for the whales that have hundreds of awakening gems.
    That is exactly what this is
  • Wubbie075Wubbie075 Member Posts: 763 ★★★
    Trek26 said:

    Trek26 said:

    My only gripe about this is that it seems that they only made this happen because whales had way too much awakening gems and literally couldn’t awaken 6* champs so kabam had to cater to them

    Why is providing a solution to something that doesn't affect you, catering to someone else?

    Any Valiant player can use the trade in. If it was catering to those people, only they would have it.
    All valiant aren’t whales that have hundreds of awakening gems. I understand the trade isn’t for everyone but it seems like they just did it for the whales that have hundreds of awakening gems.
    I have tons of 6* unawakened, but I just don't much care about 6* anymore so I rarely use my gems. I only have maybe 20 something gems total (mostly generic and a few class) and I considered trading them in. I chose not to because I'd rather get 7* AG shards. So, this offer is not for me. No biggie. I'll hold the gems until I either find a reason to use them, or another offer comes around that I like more.

    The idea that if Kabam happens to make a decision that does not appeal specifically to you, that means it is a terrible thing that was done TO you is laughable.

    There is an entire world that exists out there more than 6 inches from the tip of your nose. Apparently it is shocking to many of you that some of the people who live in it might just possibly have different priorities than you do. But guess what, they get to have things that meet their needs too.
  • Trek26Trek26 Member Posts: 255 ★★

    Trek26 said:

    Trek26 said:

    My only gripe about this is that it seems that they only made this happen because whales had way too much awakening gems and literally couldn’t awaken 6* champs so kabam had to cater to them

    Why is providing a solution to something that doesn't affect you, catering to someone else?

    Any Valiant player can use the trade in. If it was catering to those people, only they would have it.
    All valiant aren’t whales that have hundreds of awakening gems. I understand the trade isn’t for everyone but it seems like they just did it for the whales that have hundreds of awakening gems.
    Yes?
    Bruh what do you mean yes? You’re the one that responded to me so I just elaborated. I said it was a gripe and that’s all, I don’t know what else you want to hear. You seem really annoyed that I have a gripe
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 6,387 ★★★★★
    Trek26 said:

    Trek26 said:

    Trek26 said:

    My only gripe about this is that it seems that they only made this happen because whales had way too much awakening gems and literally couldn’t awaken 6* champs so kabam had to cater to them

    Why is providing a solution to something that doesn't affect you, catering to someone else?

    Any Valiant player can use the trade in. If it was catering to those people, only they would have it.
    All valiant aren’t whales that have hundreds of awakening gems. I understand the trade isn’t for everyone but it seems like they just did it for the whales that have hundreds of awakening gems.
    Yes?
    Bruh what do you mean yes? You’re the one that responded to me so I just elaborated. I said it was a gripe and that’s all, I don’t know what else you want to hear. You seem really annoyed that I have a gripe
    No, he means you are right on your gripe... It describes exactly what the intention of this trade deal is, meaning your gripe must be not being a whale or actually still see some value on those 6" AGs
  • Trek26Trek26 Member Posts: 255 ★★

    Trek26 said:

    Trek26 said:

    Trek26 said:

    My only gripe about this is that it seems that they only made this happen because whales had way too much awakening gems and literally couldn’t awaken 6* champs so kabam had to cater to them

    Why is providing a solution to something that doesn't affect you, catering to someone else?

    Any Valiant player can use the trade in. If it was catering to those people, only they would have it.
    All valiant aren’t whales that have hundreds of awakening gems. I understand the trade isn’t for everyone but it seems like they just did it for the whales that have hundreds of awakening gems.
    Yes?
    Bruh what do you mean yes? You’re the one that responded to me so I just elaborated. I said it was a gripe and that’s all, I don’t know what else you want to hear. You seem really annoyed that I have a gripe
    No, he means you are right on your gripe... It describes exactly what the intention of this trade deal is, meaning your gripe must be not being a whale or actually still see some value on those 6" AGs
    It’s actually about kabam catering hand and foot to whales, I got 30+ AGs so I don’t think I see value in them. But it’s nothing I cry about since I get value from it too.
  • BringPopcornBringPopcorn Member Posts: 6,387 ★★★★★
    edited January 12
    Trek26 said:

    Trek26 said:

    Trek26 said:

    Trek26 said:

    My only gripe about this is that it seems that they only made this happen because whales had way too much awakening gems and literally couldn’t awaken 6* champs so kabam had to cater to them

    Why is providing a solution to something that doesn't affect you, catering to someone else?

    Any Valiant player can use the trade in. If it was catering to those people, only they would have it.
    All valiant aren’t whales that have hundreds of awakening gems. I understand the trade isn’t for everyone but it seems like they just did it for the whales that have hundreds of awakening gems.
    Yes?
    Bruh what do you mean yes? You’re the one that responded to me so I just elaborated. I said it was a gripe and that’s all, I don’t know what else you want to hear. You seem really annoyed that I have a gripe
    No, he means you are right on your gripe... It describes exactly what the intention of this trade deal is, meaning your gripe must be not being a whale or actually still see some value on those 6" AGs
    It’s actually about kabam catering hand and foot to whales, I got 30+ AGs so I don’t think I see value in them. But it’s nothing I cry about since I get value from it too.
    They are catering to you too, you get 30 sig stones instead of having 30 6* AGs collecting dust...
    How are they catering to them? If anyrhing they are getting screwed more than you are if you consider the deal is bad ..
  • DemonzfyreDemonzfyre Member Posts: 22,571 ★★★★★
    Trek26 said:

    Trek26 said:

    Trek26 said:

    Trek26 said:

    My only gripe about this is that it seems that they only made this happen because whales had way too much awakening gems and literally couldn’t awaken 6* champs so kabam had to cater to them

    Why is providing a solution to something that doesn't affect you, catering to someone else?

    Any Valiant player can use the trade in. If it was catering to those people, only they would have it.
    All valiant aren’t whales that have hundreds of awakening gems. I understand the trade isn’t for everyone but it seems like they just did it for the whales that have hundreds of awakening gems.
    Yes?
    Bruh what do you mean yes? You’re the one that responded to me so I just elaborated. I said it was a gripe and that’s all, I don’t know what else you want to hear. You seem really annoyed that I have a gripe
    No, he means you are right on your gripe... It describes exactly what the intention of this trade deal is, meaning your gripe must be not being a whale or actually still see some value on those 6" AGs
    It’s actually about kabam catering hand and foot to whales, I got 30+ AGs so I don’t think I see value in them. But it’s nothing I cry about since I get value from it too.
    My god, you've been dancing on the whole point the entire time and still find a reason to be mad. Let me spell it out since you can't see the point clearly.

    This is for Valiant only.
    This is for Valiants that have no need for 6* AGs.
    This is for Valiants who have 100+ 6* AGs.
    This is not for Valiants who still have use for 7* AGs.
    They are giving sigs because the people making the most of this trade in find sigs more useful as they have most or all 7*s duped.

    Understand?
  • Archit_1812Archit_1812 Member Posts: 621 ★★★
    @Demonzfyre, I suggest you look at this logically.

    It's perfectly normal to get 1 signature stone crystal from playing 3 BG matches, right?
    6* Awakening gems are much harder to get. Even if there is an overflow in your inventory, it would have taken years of collection. It's not like you get one daily.

    That's where I feel the math doesn't add up. The same thing that you can get daily by casual playing, you have to trade in for something you only get through selected items. I'm not saying the idea is bad, it's a great initiative, but the implementation is potentially disastrous.

    All I'm saying is, 1:1 seems like a rather absurd ratio. Now if you had a 1:5 ratio, that's a whole different story, it's balance.

    I'm not asking for handouts, I'm asking for balance. This offer completely devalues 6* AGs if Kabam can call them equivalent to 1 measly signature stone. Trade offers aren't about empty gestures, they're about meaningful exchanges.

    P.S. for God's sake, no one is accusing you of anything. I suggest you calm down 5 or 6 notches.
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