A realistic deathless necro run

captain_rogers · January 12

I did my necropolis deathless run today, and unlike others, I spent a ton of revives(12-15 solo revs, 5 team revives). So here's my experience for average players.

Team
7* r1 guilly (with 6* r2 gr relic)
7* r2 thanos (with 6* r2 ms marvel relic)
7* r1 king groot (with 6* r3 venom relic)
7* r1 vision (with 6* r2 vision relic)
7* r2 shehulk (with 6* r2 hulk relic)

She hulk was the absolute mvp. Guilly was great as well since she deals her max damage ceiling with no ramp. If I can do this quest again, I'll r3 she hulk and r2 guilly.

Titty - solo with she hulk. With fear and grit, she's made for this fight.
Aarkys - 14 min solo with guilly. She has complete control over the fight. Aarkus also thrown his specials like a good boy.
OS - Thanks took him to 70%, king groot to 45% and guilly did the rest. Guilty is awesome for the fight as she completely shuts her down with neutralize
Air Walker - solo with she hulk. Doesn't matter if he triggers his pink buff, grit ignores the unstoppable effect and her debuffs with despair shut his regen.
Cap Britain - Tried with entire team, but I suck with shifting controls. Ended using vision mainly. I wish his damage was little more, he is just perfect tbh. 2 revives and a team revive here.
Wiccan - 4 min easy solo with she hulk.
Psycho - solo with she hulk.

I did a big mistake taking apoc path instead of guardian one. Please take guardian path if you're reading this. Save your stash

Apoc - I had a good run with she hulk, took him to 70%, then it went downhill. I suck dxing apoc specials. And he dealt a lot of damage on block. Spent 2 team revives and 3 solo revives here. Dgyilly did the heavy lifting.
Tigra - easy solo with she hulk. Punish her sp1 with your heavy occasionally to keep the fear up.
Herc - another nightmare. He loves to light intercept you. His behaviours are unpredictable. 2 team revive and 3 solo revives again. Guilly did the heavy lifting here as well.
Cap sam - king groot took 50% health, rest with shehulk
Capiw - easy solo with she hulk, even before the half enrage timer
Drago - easy solo with she hulk, and ineptitudes healed me to fu health
Nova - it's all bout dexing his specials. Spent a team revive here. Nothing complicated though.

Grandmaster - it's nostalgic to fight him after a year. Spent 4-5 revives. Thanos was the mvp here

Rewards? That's the best part

I duped my most wanted champ. Now I can awaken sentinel with my tech ag.

captain_rogers · January 12

For those who have completed 10 year challenge, which path to take? Should I take guardian path, and knu for valk (there's a cheese trick I've heard)? Or apoc path with wong? Mine's unduped. I just want a cheap run as I'm low on revives. Don't have adam so wong and vox are my mvps (and ham for mystics).

captain_rogers · January 12

What's the Guardian bug? How does it trigger?

Gamer · January 12

you had trouble because your couldn’t dex apocalypse sp don’t mean offer can’t do it better it the essay path for it tbh. But congrats one doing it I take the same part and some the apocalypse did had inequity. Might helps with the blok damage.

captain_rogers · January 12

Gamer said:
you had trouble because your couldn’t dex apocalypse sp don’t mean offer can’t do it better it the essay path for it tbh. But congrats one doing it I take the same part and some the apocalypse did had inequity. Might helps with the blok damage.

I also had max inequity and still apoc sp1 dealt a lot of damage. I still strongly believe guardian path is easier than apoc one for deathless run.

Average_Desi · January 12

I'm jealous of your relics. Congrats on the run. Also, apoc path is fine with wong. You'll just have to throw specials when they don't have indestructible.

Why not use Thanos as main for any fights?

captain_rogers · January 12

Average_Desi said:
I'm jealous of your relics. Congrats on the run. Also, apoc path is fine with wong. You'll just have to throw specials when they don't have indestructible.

Why not use Thanos as main for any fights?

I'm not used to his playstyle and so, his furies expired before sp2. And I accidentally parried instead of using counter punch, most of the times.

Bendy · January 12

captain_rogers said:

Gamer said:
you had trouble because your couldn’t dex apocalypse sp don’t mean offer can’t do it better it the essay path for it tbh. But congrats one doing it I take the same part and some the apocalypse did had inequity. Might helps with the blok damage.
I also had max inequity and still apoc sp1 dealt a lot of damage. I still strongly believe guardian path is easier than apoc one for deathless run.

With the synergy its a call out to the apoc path not guardian since u have no counter to auto block or red guardian who removes shield with each hit u will just die too much

Gamer · January 12

Bendy said:

captain_rogers said:

Gamer said:
you had trouble because your couldn’t dex apocalypse sp don’t mean offer can’t do it better it the essay path for it tbh. But congrats one doing it I take the same part and some the apocalypse did had inequity. Might helps with the blok damage.
I also had max inequity and still apoc sp1 dealt a lot of damage. I still strongly believe guardian path is easier than apoc one for deathless run.
With the synergy its a call out to the apoc path not guardian since u have no counter to auto block or red guardian who removes shield with each hit u will just die too much

Undermined with kg

Bendy · January 12

Gamer said:

Bendy said:

captain_rogers said:

Gamer said:
you had trouble because your couldn’t dex apocalypse sp don’t mean offer can’t do it better it the essay path for it tbh. But congrats one doing it I take the same part and some the apocalypse did had inequity. Might helps with the blok damage.
I also had max inequity and still apoc sp1 dealt a lot of damage. I still strongly believe guardian path is easier than apoc one for deathless run.
With the synergy its a call out to the apoc path not guardian since u have no counter to auto block or red guardian who removes shield with each hit u will just die too much
Undermined with kg

Currently bugged but will u really use him though for the fights instead of going apoc which then u can solo each fight with she hulk and guilly cheaper

Gamer · January 12

captain_rogers said:

Gamer said:
you had trouble because your couldn’t dex apocalypse sp don’t mean offer can’t do it better it the essay path for it tbh. But congrats one doing it I take the same part and some the apocalypse did had inequity. Might helps with the blok damage.
I also had max inequity and still apoc sp1 dealt a lot of damage. I still strongly believe guardian path is easier than apoc one for deathless run.

Not sure didn’t you try and dex out of the last hit of the sp1 ect because i didn’t los most did lose 50 but wasn’t as brutal.

Gamer · January 12

Bendy said:

Gamer said:

Bendy said:

captain_rogers said:

Gamer said:
you had trouble because your couldn’t dex apocalypse sp don’t mean offer can’t do it better it the essay path for it tbh. But congrats one doing it I take the same part and some the apocalypse did had inequity. Might helps with the blok damage.
I also had max inequity and still apoc sp1 dealt a lot of damage. I still strongly believe guardian path is easier than apoc one for deathless run.
With the synergy its a call out to the apoc path not guardian since u have no counter to auto block or red guardian who removes shield with each hit u will just die too much
Undermined with kg
Currently bugged but will u really use him though for the fights instead of going apoc which then u can solo each fight with she hulk and guilly cheaper

No i wouldn’t i would 100 suggest the apoc path for sure it was a lot of fun

Bendy · January 12

Gamer said:

Bendy said:

captain_rogers said:

Gamer said:
you had trouble because your couldn’t dex apocalypse sp don’t mean offer can’t do it better it the essay path for it tbh. But congrats one doing it I take the same part and some the apocalypse did had inequity. Might helps with the blok damage.
I also had max inequity and still apoc sp1 dealt a lot of damage. I still strongly believe guardian path is easier than apoc one for deathless run.
With the synergy its a call out to the apoc path not guardian since u have no counter to auto block or red guardian who removes shield with each hit u will just die too much
Undermined with kg

Also dont think many used dkg as its just she hulk and guilly being so good that for me i never used dkg even for cap sam i went guilly but if not using specials next time id of went she hulk as baiting specials annoyed me as such a passive ai run

Gamer · January 12

captain_rogers said:

Average_Desi said:
I'm jealous of your relics. Congrats on the run. Also, apoc path is fine with wong. You'll just have to throw specials when they don't have indestructible.

Why not use Thanos as main for any fights?
I'm not used to his playstyle and so, his furies expired before sp2. And I accidentally parried instead of using counter punch, most of the times.

why i used him in rol to get slightly experience to get use to thanos gameplay after that my run was pretty smooth only the OS fight the last 20 procen cost me 1 review because couldn’t keep the amomorr shattered one for obvious reasons

Gamer · January 12

Bendy said:

Gamer said:

Bendy said:

captain_rogers said:

Gamer said:
you had trouble because your couldn’t dex apocalypse sp don’t mean offer can’t do it better it the essay path for it tbh. But congrats one doing it I take the same part and some the apocalypse did had inequity. Might helps with the blok damage.
I also had max inequity and still apoc sp1 dealt a lot of damage. I still strongly believe guardian path is easier than apoc one for deathless run.
With the synergy its a call out to the apoc path not guardian since u have no counter to auto block or red guardian who removes shield with each hit u will just die too much
Undermined with kg
Also dont think many used dkg as its just she hulk and guilly being so good that for me i never used dkg even for cap sam i went guilly but if not using specials next time id of went she hulk as baiting specials annoyed me as such a passive ai run

I did use kg for pscoman because I try to use thanos should just use she hulk in hindsight. And also KG save me one revies one Hercules because it was a bit brutal forgot put a relice one KG to with unfortunately but kg dos has great damge.

Bendy · January 12

Gamer said:

Bendy said:

Gamer said:

Bendy said:

captain_rogers said:

Gamer said:
you had trouble because your couldn’t dex apocalypse sp don’t mean offer can’t do it better it the essay path for it tbh. But congrats one doing it I take the same part and some the apocalypse did had inequity. Might helps with the blok damage.
I also had max inequity and still apoc sp1 dealt a lot of damage. I still strongly believe guardian path is easier than apoc one for deathless run.
With the synergy its a call out to the apoc path not guardian since u have no counter to auto block or red guardian who removes shield with each hit u will just die too much
Undermined with kg
Also dont think many used dkg as its just she hulk and guilly being so good that for me i never used dkg even for cap sam i went guilly but if not using specials next time id of went she hulk as baiting specials annoyed me as such a passive ai run
I did use kg for pscoman because I try to use thanos should just use she hulk in hindsight. And also KG save me one revies one Hercules because it was a bit brutal forgot put a relice one KG to with unfortunately but kg dos has great damge.

I used guilly and she hulk for psycho man and guilly on herc just had no place for dkg thanos did a lot on omega semt finished with guilly vision tried once never used again idk i feel dkg and vision needed a stronger synergy

BadPullsMarco · January 12

There is nothing realistic about a rank 3 relic.

Average_Desi · January 12

BadPullsMarco said:
There is nothing realistic about a rank 3 relic.

True. King groots bleeds would be super charged. I almost got a solo on cap Sam because of it

Rayven5220 · January 12

BadPullsMarco said:
There is nothing realistic about a rank 3 relic.

Why not? Alot of people have a r3 relic. We got the relic rank up gem months ago, I just don't remember where we got it.

Bendy · January 12

Rayven5220 said:

BadPullsMarco said:
There is nothing realistic about a rank 3 relic.
Why not? Alot of people have a r3 relic. We got the relic rank up gem months ago, I just don't remember where we got it.

Act 8 gave one

Rayven5220 · January 12

Bendy said:

Rayven5220 said:

BadPullsMarco said:
There is nothing realistic about a rank 3 relic.
Why not? Alot of people have a r3 relic. We got the relic rank up gem months ago, I just don't remember where we got it.
Act 8 gave one

Thanks! That's where it came from! 😁
Mystery solved.

Gamer · January 12

Bendy said:

Gamer said:

Bendy said:

Gamer said:

Bendy said:

captain_rogers said:

Gamer said:
you had trouble because your couldn’t dex apocalypse sp don’t mean offer can’t do it better it the essay path for it tbh. But congrats one doing it I take the same part and some the apocalypse did had inequity. Might helps with the blok damage.
I also had max inequity and still apoc sp1 dealt a lot of damage. I still strongly believe guardian path is easier than apoc one for deathless run.
With the synergy its a call out to the apoc path not guardian since u have no counter to auto block or red guardian who removes shield with each hit u will just die too much
Undermined with kg
Also dont think many used dkg as its just she hulk and guilly being so good that for me i never used dkg even for cap sam i went guilly but if not using specials next time id of went she hulk as baiting specials annoyed me as such a passive ai run
I did use kg for pscoman because I try to use thanos should just use she hulk in hindsight. And also KG save me one revies one Hercules because it was a bit brutal forgot put a relice one KG to with unfortunately but kg dos has great damge.
I used guilly and she hulk for psycho man and guilly on herc just had no place for dkg thanos did a lot on omega semt finished with guilly vision tried once never used again idk i feel dkg and vision needed a stronger synergy

Yea if I when back I obviously done better and did things different but can always be better

TikkaMasala · January 12

Awesome job! Congrats. Doesn’t seem like your revive totals were “a ton” to me. I used that many on just the mutant carina challenge.

Priyabrata · January 12

captain_rogers said:
For those who have completed 10 year challenge, which path to take? Should I take guardian path, and knu for valk (there's a cheese trick I've heard)? Or apoc path with wong? Mine's unduped. I just want a cheap run as I'm low on revives. Don't have adam so wong and vox are my mvps (and ham for mystics).

I did the 10 year challenge recently, and shot myself in the foot taking sentry on my team💀💀( Sentry is BORDERLINE UNUSABLE IN NECRO BELOW R3)
So yeah don't make the same mistake as me, unless you're willing to r3 him.

The team was
R2 Wong
R2 Sentry
R2 Sig 20 Knull
R2 Sig 40 Wiccan
R2 Sig 20 Gamora

In Retrospect I should have r3 Gamora or Knull.

Wong was kind of the MVP
He took -
Titania,
Aarkus,
OS,
Air walker
Cap brit,
Wiccan,
Sam falcon,
Cap IW,
Dragon man and
Nova.
You can solo almost all of these , you might need a boost for Titania tho.

Also Knull is absolutely bonkers with his sp1 spam loop, completely DESTROYS the opponent where he works.
Gamora is ABSOLUTELY GOATED , if only I had her at r3 cause whatever fight wong couldn't do, she destroys. I m fairly certain She can solo Psychoman and a few more on that path ( Sam wilson, Cap IW and she's plenty helpful for the grandmaster too.)

Sentry was kind of a dead weight the whole way, (God knows I tried my best to give him a chance but he's just not doing enough at R2) I was extremely let down by his performance, TILL I HIT RED GUARDIAN, and thats probably the best fight to ramp him up cause his loop kind of flows smoothly into the fight rotation. Walled out of there with 8 charges and having spent 3 revives, He strangled dragon man with his bare hands after that lol. And he's also helpful for the first GM phase cause you can easily knock him down when your parry is blocked, only if he's above 6 charges tho.

Ps : you might be seeing some overlap between the fights champs can take, and that's because I had a lot of revives expiring so I kept messing around with my options for no reason

Priyabrata · January 12

Also VALKYRIE WAS HORRIBLE, literal nightmare, So instead of sentry you should just take an option SPECIFICALLY FOR HER, yes she's that bad.
Knull works great for guardian and Sam and a few others too

Squidopus · January 12

Bendy said:

captain_rogers said:

Gamer said:
you had trouble because your couldn’t dex apocalypse sp don’t mean offer can’t do it better it the essay path for it tbh. But congrats one doing it I take the same part and some the apocalypse did had inequity. Might helps with the blok damage.
I also had max inequity and still apoc sp1 dealt a lot of damage. I still strongly believe guardian path is easier than apoc one for deathless run.
With the synergy its a call out to the apoc path not guardian since u have no counter to auto block or red guardian who removes shield with each hit u will just die too much

Your auto-block counter is just not throwing the same combo enders twice in a row, which is pretty easy since none of the Deathless have particular reason to care about which ones they use. For Guardian specifically, Thanos and King Groot both ignore it. Also Red Guardian is really easy, I soloed him with She-hulk. Just make sure you break the shield during your special attacks and the stun won’t trigger, you can use heavy attacks which don’t remove shield charges if you need to build power without breaking the shield.

willrun4adonut · January 12

I'm glad that your run looked similar to my run and write-up. I was amazed that everyone seems to be soloing every fight.

Chuck_Finley · January 12

Still far better than mine.

You guys are like the single handicap golfers of MCOC. I am the proverbial weekend warrior. I got similar solos, but when things start going south, there is no mitigating the damage. You all settle for a bogey and I am duffing multiple chip shots across the green for a double digit stroke fail on the scorecard.

You all count revives. I count 1k unit spend for the EQ bundle before going in and don’t count revives. If I did, I would probably uninstall the game. I am just happy I didn’t have any other unit spend, despite a lot of my resource stash being gone.

willrun4adonut · January 12

Chuck_Finley said:
Still far better than mine.

You guys are like the single handicap golfers of MCOC. I am the proverbial weekend warrior. I got similar solos, but when things start going south, there is no mitigating the damage. You all settle for a bogey and I am duffing multiple chip shots across the green for a double digit stroke fail on the scorecard.

You all count revives. I count 1k unit spend for the EQ bundle before going in and don’t count revives. If I did, I would probably uninstall the game. I am just happy I didn’t have any other unit spend, despite a lot of my resource stash being gone.

Did you see my run? Especially powering through the GM phase 3? That wasn't fun.

BadPullsMarco · January 12

Yeah that third phase is gnarly. If you didn’t Degen on reverse control immune champs, that fight would be my all time favorite fight in MCoC. It still might be my favorite, but it would have probably no equal in the future if that wasn’t the case.

Average_Desi · January 12

BadPullsMarco said:
Yeah that third phase is gnarly. If you didn’t Degen on reverse control immune champs, that fight would be my all time favorite fight in MCoC. It still might be my favorite, but it would have probably no equal in the future if that wasn’t the case.

If you can take no blocked hits, you can use reverse immune champs

A realistic deathless necro run

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