Plz kabam buff daredevil again

I know I get made fun of for making multiple posts asking for this so I don’t wanna hear it but with born again coming out in a couple months, now would be the perfect time to buff DDHK again. His initial buff was just so bad, and I have a fully maxed 6* and he’s a complete noodle. I don’t think he needs another overhaul cause the blueprint of what he has is good, but his playstyle and rotation/ managing combo isn’t worth it in the end. And since kabam is clearly no stranger now to multiple buffs for champions: Deadpool x, Luke cage, ebony maw, gamora had 3 buffs. Think most people will say he’s easily the most disappointing overhaul buff. He just needed a little more time in the oven and I think a few simple changes would fix him.
1: start the fight with 2 cleanse passives so we can use suicides
2: give him permanent rage debuffs to ramp damage like kingpin to stack 5-7 (and remove the -5% potency per debuff)
3: have the instant bleeds from righteous wrath be 100% but can lower its damage a little
4: increase regen rate to match kingpin from 40-50%
5: (optional) his base crit rate could be a little higher but could test it to see
This is just a nitpick I can take or leave but a new character model would be nice. His 2015 costume wasn’t anyones favorite and it shouldn’t be hard to update to the born again suit. I’d hope for a response from a dev cause I’m not gonna get over how they did my boy dirty

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Greed_Exodus

I would change the bursts of instant bleed to direct damage like black panthers sp2 (civil war) and each hit of the sp1 should inflict a trauma or fragility, sp2 should do rupture and yeah definitely give him cleanse, also i would love to see some kind of bonus damage or enhancement against villains like a blade danger sense

JLordVileJ

I want yellow suit daredevil

Revan0607

I would change the bursts of instant bleed to direct damage like black panthers sp2 (civil war) and each hit of the sp1 should inflict a trauma or fragility, sp2 should do rupture and yeah definitely give him cleanse, also i would love to see some kind of bonus damage or enhancement against villains like a blade danger sense

The sp1 does need a different ability than a weak, short precision buff. What annoys me is every problem daredevil had with his first buff, they improved with kingpin. Rage debuffs are permanent, higher regen rate, can shrug damaging debuffs, no -5% potency on attack from stacking debuffs. Ik it sounds ridiculous but I’ve literally sent dozens and dozens of emails to kabam for over 4 years since the buff first went live. They have no excuse now when they give other champions multiple buffs

EdisonLaw

I know I get made fun of for making multiple posts asking for this so I don’t wanna hear it but with born again coming out in a couple months, now would be the perfect time to buff DDHK again. His initial buff was just so bad, and I have a fully maxed 6* and he’s a complete noodle. I don’t think he needs another overhaul cause the blueprint of what he has is good, but his playstyle and rotation/ managing combo isn’t worth it in the end. And since kabam is clearly no stranger now to multiple buffs for champions: Deadpool x, Luke cage, ebony maw, gamora had 3 buffs. Think most people will say he’s easily the most disappointing overhaul buff. He just needed a little more time in the oven and I think a few simple changes would fix him.
1: start the fight with 2 cleanse passives so we can use suicides
2: give him permanent rage debuffs to ramp damage like kingpin to stack 5-7 (and remove the -5% potency per debuff)
3: have the instant bleeds from righteous wrath be 100% but can lower its damage a little
4: increase regen rate to match kingpin from 40-50%
5: (optional) his base crit rate could be a little higher but could test it to see
This is just a nitpick I can take or leave but a new character model would be nice. His 2015 costume wasn’t anyones favorite and it shouldn’t be hard to update to the born again suit. I’d hope for a response from a dev cause I’m not gonna get over how they did my boy dirty

Great ideas but if you increase the regen rate, he honestly doesn't need the cleanse passives, he has purify.

kvirr

I want yellow suit daredevil

wait but isn’t that just…daredevil but yellow ?

Revan0607

I know I get made fun of for making multiple posts asking for this so I don’t wanna hear it but with born again coming out in a couple months, now would be the perfect time to buff DDHK again. His initial buff was just so bad, and I have a fully maxed 6* and he’s a complete noodle. I don’t think he needs another overhaul cause the blueprint of what he has is good, but his playstyle and rotation/ managing combo isn’t worth it in the end. And since kabam is clearly no stranger now to multiple buffs for champions: Deadpool x, Luke cage, ebony maw, gamora had 3 buffs. Think most people will say he’s easily the most disappointing overhaul buff. He just needed a little more time in the oven and I think a few simple changes would fix him.
1: start the fight with 2 cleanse passives so we can use suicides
2: give him permanent rage debuffs to ramp damage like kingpin to stack 5-7 (and remove the -5% potency per debuff)
3: have the instant bleeds from righteous wrath be 100% but can lower its damage a little
4: increase regen rate to match kingpin from 40-50%
5: (optional) his base crit rate could be a little higher but could test it to see
This is just a nitpick I can take or leave but a new character model would be nice. His 2015 costume wasn’t anyones favorite and it shouldn’t be hard to update to the born again suit. I’d hope for a response from a dev cause I’m not gonna get over how they did my boy dirty
Great ideas but if you increase the regen rate, he honestly doesn't need the cleanse passives, he has purify.

The point of the cleanse passives is to shrug off the suicide masteries since he can’t normally shrug off damaging debuffs

Lokx

Ima be honest, i’d prefer they overhaul og daredevil because his special animations are cool. That circular pulse effect is cool.

Toyota_2015

Should’ve made the title of this post “Daredevil: Buffed Again”

Revan0607

Ima be honest, i’d prefer they overhaul og daredevil because his special animations are cool. That circular pulse effect is cool.

I would see them doing a moderate buff on him adding stuff to his kit cause his sig ability would need to stay cause it’s still one of the best in the game

Revan0607

Should’ve made the title to this post Daredevil: Buffed Again

lol. Well I’m hoping kabam would at least address DDHK. Everyone hated his buff in 2020, and they could profit a lot by trying again and releasing a 7*

peixemacaco

With the new series ,maybe.

Punisher and King Pin too

And Echo as new champ

Jethua

I would prefer og daredevil to get a buff

713_o_f1673r

I want yellow suit daredevil
wait but isn’t that just…daredevil but yellow ?

DPX is just Deadpool but grey and magx is just magneto but white

winterthur

Ima be honest, i’d prefer they overhaul og daredevil because his special animations are cool. That circular pulse effect is cool.

🥹🥹

ThatGuyYouSaw235

With the new series ,maybe.

Punisher and King Pin too

And Echo as new champ

Kingpin does not need a buff man he's beefy af

captain_rogers

With the new series ,maybe.

Punisher and King Pin too

And Echo as new champ
Kingpin does not need a buff man he's beefy af

Buff kingpin by releasing him as 7*

Chobbly

The trailer got 10 million views in its first day. I'd be worried if that figure doesn't make someone at Kabam think about how MCOC benefit from the clear level of interest.

The problems with his kit are well known, and can be reduced down into one simple statement. Most of the time, the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

I'd like to see something, a minor buff to at least alleviate the main issues, then maybe release him as a 7* like they did for Iron Man.

WednesdayLength

I know I get made fun of for making multiple posts asking for this so I don’t wanna hear it but with born again coming out in a couple months, now would be the perfect time to buff DDHK again. His initial buff was just so bad, and I have a fully maxed 6* and he’s a complete noodle. I don’t think he needs another overhaul cause the blueprint of what he has is good, but his playstyle and rotation/ managing combo isn’t worth it in the end. And since kabam is clearly no stranger now to multiple buffs for champions: Deadpool x, Luke cage, ebony maw, gamora had 3 buffs. Think most people will say he’s easily the most disappointing overhaul buff. He just needed a little more time in the oven and I think a few simple changes would fix him.
1: start the fight with 2 cleanse passives so we can use suicides
2: give him permanent rage debuffs to ramp damage like kingpin to stack 5-7 (and remove the -5% potency per debuff)
3: have the instant bleeds from righteous wrath be 100% but can lower its damage a little
4: increase regen rate to match kingpin from 40-50%
5: (optional) his base crit rate could be a little higher but could test it to see
This is just a nitpick I can take or leave but a new character model would be nice. His 2015 costume wasn’t anyones favorite and it shouldn’t be hard to update to the born again suit. I’d hope for a response from a dev cause I’m not gonna get over how they did my boy dirty
Great ideas but if you increase the regen rate, he honestly doesn't need the cleanse passives, he has purify.
The point of the cleanse passives is to shrug off the suicide masteries since he can’t normally shrug off damaging debuffs

If his regen rate is increased then he won't need to shrug off suicides surely

Revan0607

I know I get made fun of for making multiple posts asking for this so I don’t wanna hear it but with born again coming out in a couple months, now would be the perfect time to buff DDHK again. His initial buff was just so bad, and I have a fully maxed 6* and he’s a complete noodle. I don’t think he needs another overhaul cause the blueprint of what he has is good, but his playstyle and rotation/ managing combo isn’t worth it in the end. And since kabam is clearly no stranger now to multiple buffs for champions: Deadpool x, Luke cage, ebony maw, gamora had 3 buffs. Think most people will say he’s easily the most disappointing overhaul buff. He just needed a little more time in the oven and I think a few simple changes would fix him.
1: start the fight with 2 cleanse passives so we can use suicides
2: give him permanent rage debuffs to ramp damage like kingpin to stack 5-7 (and remove the -5% potency per debuff)
3: have the instant bleeds from righteous wrath be 100% but can lower its damage a little
4: increase regen rate to match kingpin from 40-50%
5: (optional) his base crit rate could be a little higher but could test it to see
This is just a nitpick I can take or leave but a new character model would be nice. His 2015 costume wasn’t anyones favorite and it shouldn’t be hard to update to the born again suit. I’d hope for a response from a dev cause I’m not gonna get over how they did my boy dirty
Great ideas but if you increase the regen rate, he honestly doesn't need the cleanse passives, he has purify.
The point of the cleanse passives is to shrug off the suicide masteries since he can’t normally shrug off damaging debuffs
If his regen rate is increased then he won't need to shrug off suicides surely

Only needs an increase from the current 40% to 50% like kingpin currently has it

Revan0607

The trailer got 10 million views in its first day. I'd be worried if that figure doesn't make someone at Kabam think about how MCOC benefit from the clear level of interest.

The problems with his kit are well known, and can be reduced down into one simple statement. Most of the time, the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

I'd like to see something, a minor buff to at least alleviate the main issues, then maybe release him as a 7* like they did for Iron Man.

It just baffles me how bad his buff was the first time. And they’ll turn around and give other champions multiple buffs

JLordVileJ

I want yellow suit daredevil
wait but isn’t that just…daredevil but yellow ?
DPX is just Deadpool but grey and magx is just magneto but white

Eh not really tbh. Dpx doesn't have his regen, and wags is a hero who technically can't die cuz of krakoa

Revan0607

I want yellow suit daredevil
wait but isn’t that just…daredevil but yellow ?
DPX is just Deadpool but grey and magx is just magneto but white
Eh not really tbh. Dpx doesn't have his regen, and wags is a hero who technically can't die cuz of krakoa

Hope they’d at least update DDHKs outfit to current costume

JLordVileJ

You know who would be cold? Bearded daredevil. Might be one of the coldest suits of all time out of marvel steet heroes

Magrailothos

Buff Daredevil (Hells Kitchen)???

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Magrailothos

Also, there's some good discussion in many prior threads; for example https://forums.playcontestofchampions.com/en/discussion/372705/overrated-underrated-daredevil-hell-s-kitchen

Chobbly

Buff Daredevil (Hells Kitchen)???

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@MegaSkater67 !

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I think there's a risk with using Kingpin as a point of comparison. Kingpin's Rage debuffs have an indefinite duration until he hits 8 debuffs. Daredevil's Rage debuffs are much more fleeting especially when switching modes. It may seem an easy comparison but it's misleading given how different the Rage debuffs are used.

Here's what I said in the other thread, a very controlled way to deal with the Regen Rate issue by making the fix part of the Sig ability, and Attacker only:

If Daredevil (Hell's Kitchen) is the Attacker, at the start of the fight increase Base Regeneration Rate by X (10% to 40%) depending on Signature Ability level.

The other main issue is damage. This is my latest thoughts, along a similar line:

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If Daredevil (Hell's Kitchen) is the Attacker, the first Precision, Fury and Cruelty Buff that he gains during a fight has an indefinite duration.

Why Attacker only for both? The reason is that by making it Attacker only nothing else in the game needs to be changed.

Existing nodes, places where DDHK is a defender will work exactly as they do now. No defender changes, minimal testing, limited impact. But it will improve his survivability (with investment) and his damage output (not consistent).

This is probably the minimum he needs - could do with more, but the minimum.

MegaSkater67

Buff Daredevil (Hells Kitchen)???

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I still don’t think he needs a buff at all haha. It was only today that he easily made his way through the right side of the Autumn of Agony gauntlet. Completely shuts down the jabari fight, can take Cassie/heimdall and can solo northstar.

The biggest issue for me is the lack of a 7* to be honest. With all the R3s we have now it’s not as often as it once was that you reach for a 6* champ anymore, but he’s still one of my first picks when I look for a skill champ or I’m doing hard content. His utility is still extremely relevant, versatile and easy to use. Then there’s his damage, which in my opinion, is and always was very decent. He’s not a 30 second nuke in BGs but it’s at least very respectable, he can hit some nice numbers and get some solid bleeds going with little effort. Throw in some synergies like peni and it gets even better. He’s still a top skill champ as far I’m concerned.

Chobbly

Buff Daredevil (Hells Kitchen)???

@Chobbly !

@MegaSkater67 !

I summon thee!....
I still don’t think he needs a buff at all haha. It was only today that he easily made his way through the right side of the Autumn of Agony gauntlet. Completely shuts down the jabari fight, can take Cassie/heimdall and can solo northstar.

The biggest issue for me is the lack of a 7* to be honest. With all the R3s we have now it’s not as often as it once was that you reach for a 6* champ anymore, but he’s still one of my first picks when I look for a skill champ or I’m doing hard content. His utility is still extremely relevant, versatile and easy to use. Then there’s his damage, which in my opinion, is and always was very decent. He’s not a 30 second nuke in BGs but it’s at least very respectable, he can hit some nice numbers and get some solid bleeds going with little effort. Throw in some synergies like peni and it gets even better. He’s still a top skill champ as far I’m concerned.

I don't agree but I'm glad you've got some use out of him. For me, the Regen Rate reduction is still the biggest issue, with the overly restrictive rotation close behind. The argument given at the time for reducing his Regen has been largely negated by a number of champions that have permanent/better healing effects - and DDHK's healing isn't permanent.

Being honest though @MegaSkater67 , if they did increase his Regen Rate, some Bleed resistance or something else, I guess you wouldn't mind/object too much?

Revan0607

Buff Daredevil (Hells Kitchen)???

@Chobbly !

@MegaSkater67 !

I summon thee!....
I still don’t think he needs a buff at all haha. It was only today that he easily made his way through the right side of the Autumn of Agony gauntlet. Completely shuts down the jabari fight, can take Cassie/heimdall and can solo northstar.

The biggest issue for me is the lack of a 7* to be honest. With all the R3s we have now it’s not as often as it once was that you reach for a 6* champ anymore, but he’s still one of my first picks when I look for a skill champ or I’m doing hard content. His utility is still extremely relevant, versatile and easy to use. Then there’s his damage, which in my opinion, is and always was very decent. He’s not a 30 second nuke in BGs but it’s at least very respectable, he can hit some nice numbers and get some solid bleeds going with little effort. Throw in some synergies like peni and it gets even better. He’s still a top skill champ as far I’m concerned.
I don't agree but I'm glad you've got some use out of him. For me, the Regen Rate reduction is still the biggest issue, with the overly restrictive rotation close behind. The argument given at the time for reducing his Regen has been largely negated by a number of champions that have permanent/better healing effects - and DDHK's healing isn't permanent.

Being honest though @MegaSkater67 , if they did increase his Regen Rate, some Bleed resistance or something else, I guess you wouldn't mind/object too much?

For me he needs the Deadpool treatment. Not a second overhaul but use the blueprint of his initial buff and add/ change a few things in his kit. Cause he has potential but man he sucks rn

Austin555555

Can we buff champions who need a buff first who have yet to receive one? Because groot is in desperate need of one